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  • 29-06-2011 6:30pm
    #1
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭


    Please post in here if you need help filling out the form for 2011/2012.

    please provide as much detail as possible, and hopefully someone will be able to assist you.


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  • #2
    VeronicaMoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36 ✭VeronicaMoon


    Hi i'm filling out my student grant application form now online and i'm confused!

    My father is self-employed and it asks me if he was employed in 2010 so I said yes and had to enter his gross income for 2010. Then the next page it asks if he was self employed in 2010 so I said yes and entered his net profit.

    I finished the application and was about to press submit when I seen it had added together his gross and net income (makes no sense) ??? So does this mean I say he wasn't 'employed' and remove that figure? I would have thought being self employed was employed?
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  • #3
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    dont fill in any details for the "employed in 2010", but do fill in details for "self employed in 2010"

    self employed is very different than employed.


  • #4
    VeronicaMoon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 36 ✭VeronicaMoon


    RoyalMarine wrote: »
    dont fill in any details for the "employed in 2010", but do fill in details for "self employed in 2010"

    self employed is very different than employed.

    Thanks!!!! I couldnt decide what to do. My friend keeps telling to say he's employed lol


  • #5
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    no problem.


  • #6
    The_B_Man
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 ✭✭✭The_B_Man


    Its asking for a CAO Number. I've lost mine at this stage. Does it make a difference if I just leave it out, or would it be of any benefit for me to go rooting through old wardrobes trying to find it?


    Also, can I still get the grant if I'm living, (or "co-habiting), my girlfriend?


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  • #7
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    The_B_Man wrote: »
    Its asking for a CAO Number. I've lost mine at this stage. Does it make a difference if I just leave it out, or would it be of any benefit for me to go rooting through old wardrobes trying to find it?


    Also, can I still get the grant if I'm living, (or "co-habiting), my girlfriend?

    not sure about cao thing but your girlfriends income will be assessed

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #8
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    I hear that the closing date is like early August to apply for a grant , I've finished my application online , well (half finished ) .
    I hope to have the declaration thing filled out soon but I'm lost when it comes to the checklist .
    on the checklist it says your grant will only be processed fully when you have confirmation of your acceptance to a third level , but we don't get them till like late August .
    I'm totally confused about this tbh


  • #9
    eolasguy
    Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭eolasguy


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    I hear that the closing date is like early August to apply for a grant , I've finished my application online , well (half finished ) .
    I hope to have the declaration thing filled out soon but I'm lost when it comes to the checklist .
    on the checklist it says your grant will only be processed fully when you have confirmation of your acceptance to a third level , but we don't get them till like late August .
    I'm totally confused about this tbh


    I am more confused about how you prove you have been living in the country for the last 3 out of 5 years! :mad:

    Some of the documentation is stupid! Loads of paper work!!!


  • #10
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    the closing date is set as august, HOWEVER, most vec's will take the applications until sometime next year.

    what you need to do is send the application in, fully completed.

    then when the results for you leaving cert come out, a few days later the college offers will be available. you then contact the vec with the letter of acceptance, and that finishes your application.


  • #11
    Applegoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭Applegoat


    Ughhh doing a postgrad

    in section C2

    apparently i need "a copy of the award i received" from my previous degree course....eh what?:confused:..as in a transcript of my final results? or the actual degree scroll thingy?

    Also i'm pretty sure i'm not going to make the cut off for a grant but does anyone know if you fall in the last band 51+ k or whatever it is (where they'd just pay your fees in an undergrad) what happens for a masters? Will they still pay just the fees? or do they not pay fees for a masters, i thought the woman in the VEC said i could apply just to get my fees paid or something if i didn't get the grant but i was in a bit of a hurry so didn't ask about it?

    Hope that made some sort of sense! :D


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  • #12
    daffodil14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭daffodil14


    A transcript of your final results should do, maybe ring your local office and ask just to be 100% because you don't want to send everything in and then be told hold on this isn't right and your application would then be delayed.


    Re fees for postgraduate i'm not really sure I would presume you would get some of your fees paid for. Maybe someone else can clarify this.

    Hope that helps :)


  • #13
    daffodil14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 74 ✭✭daffodil14


    Hopefully someone can help me.

    I was employed last summer for 6 weeks I registered with the revenue for tax credits etc, I have all my payslips but I have lost my P45 is it really necessary or would a letter from my employer saying that my contract was for the six weeks do for the grant form?

    Not sure what to do.

    Thanks in advance


  • #14
    Sparkie93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Sparkie93


    lol im still stuck on first page on the question on what course you want to pursue can you tick more than one box because i dont know whether im doing level 7 or plc :)


  • #15
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    daffodil14 wrote:
    Hopefully someone can help me.

    I was employed last summer for 6 weeks I registered with the revenue for tax credits etc, I have all my payslips but I have lost my P45 is it really necessary or would a letter from my employer saying that my contract was for the six weeks do for the grant form?

    Not sure what to do.

    Thanks in advance

    send in any letter, documents, and your payslips you have with your application and it might suffice. if they ring asking for additional info, then you might have to try source something else. the p45 is just a summary of your overall payments etc, so its like all your payslips merged into one document.


  • #16
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    Sparkie93 wrote: »
    lol im still stuck on first page on the question on what course you want to pursue can you tick more than one box because i dont know whether im doing level 7 or plc :)

    when i applied i attached a cover letter saying i am still waiting on my results etc and cao offers, and once they are available, will be able to inform the vec/county council office which course and which college i got accepted to.


  • #17
    Platinum2010
    Closed Accounts Posts: 452 ✭✭Platinum2010


    RoyalMarine wrote: »
    the closing date is set as august, HOWEVER, most vec's will take the applications until sometime next year.

    what you need to do is send the application in, fully completed.

    then when the results for you leaving cert come out, a few days later the college offers will be available. you then contact the vec with the letter of acceptance, and that finishes your application.

    But that doesnt make sense , if you apply later than August you'll be back logged , right ?
    and you cant fill out the checklist without the acceptance from college , so does this mean you're backlogged even further ?


  • #18
    shefra
    Registered Users Posts: 91 ✭✭shefra


    Can someone please post link to online application. THanks


  • #19
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    Platinum2010 wrote: »
    But that doesnt make sense , if you apply later than August you'll be back logged , right ?
    and you cant fill out the checklist without the acceptance from college , so does this mean you're backlogged even further ?

    if you apply later than august, then yes, you will be at the end of the queue etc.
    you can fill out the checklist without the acceptance, and you can also change it at a later date.


  • #20
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    shefra wrote: »
    Can someone please post link to online application. THanks

    http://www.studentfinance.ie/mp9532/completing-a-student-grant-application/index.html


  • #21
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    eolasguy wrote: »
    I am more confused about how you prove you have been living in the country for the last 3 out of 5 years! :mad:

    Some of the documentation is stupid! Loads of paper work!!!

    This is some of the evidence they look for

    http://www.studentfinance.ie/downloads/Student%20Grant%20Scheme%202011.pdf
    Documentary evidence for residency for 3 out of the last 5 years
    This may be one or more of the following:
    • evidence that the applicant sat the Junior Certificate and Leaving Certificate exams in
    Ireland, or equivalent school exams in the EU, EEA or Switzerland;
    • a letter from a school principal in Ireland, the EU, EEA or Switzerland confirming the
    applicant’s attendance at a school;
    • social welfare statements or equivalents from the EU, EEA or Switzerland;
    • utility bills;
    • registration with the Private Residential Tenancies Board (PRTB), or equivalent from
    the EU, EEA or Switzerland;
    • if the applicant is a non-EEA national, a letter from the Department of Justice and
    Equality confirming the period of lawful presence in Ireland. Periods of unlawful
    presence cannot be considered.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #22
    PadraicEgan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭PadraicEgan


    They say they need tax documents for the previous tax year, i.e. 2010. But hardly anyone has their taxes done for 2010 already. It is normally done by the accountant/agricultural consultant in September. Is anyone else in the same situation and will it affect my application? (dad is a farmer by the way)


  • #23
    B1977
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭B1977


    daffodil14 wrote: »
    Hopefully someone can help me.

    I was employed last summer for 6 weeks I registered with the revenue for tax credits etc, I have all my payslips but I have lost my P45 is it really necessary or would a letter from my employer saying that my contract was for the six weeks do for the grant form?

    Not sure what to do.

    Thanks in advance

    call the tax office and they will send you some form of replacement,tell them what you need it for


  • #24
    ironictoaster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,147 ✭✭✭ironictoaster


    Anyone where I can get a hard copy of the grant forms?


  • #25
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    ironictoaster wrote: »
    Anyone where I can get a hard copy of the grant forms?

    Option 1 - print it out
    Option 2 - Ring up your local county council or vec and ask for it to be posted

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #26
    KMM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭KMM


    Hey all,

    So I have the online part done and dusted. Now I am trying to get all the additional paper works together. What I am stuck on is the proof of being an independent mature candidate.

    I live with a friend, who owns the house. I did not sign a lease, as a) it's a friends place and b) we both figured there was no need as I'd only be here for a few months. Anyway, I also have no bills here in my name. I rang CDVEC and she said just attach anything official from October 2010 that I would have been sent. I have trawled through all my papers etc. and can't find a thing that shows I was here from October 1st 2010, I have one final internet bill but that is dated in December 2010! I am actually starting to freak out a bit now and the thing is I am only applying for 'fees only'.

    I desperately need some help or advice. Does any one know anything else that's official?

    ps. Also since last June I haven't had a bank account! Unbelievable I know :(


  • #27
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    KMM wrote: »
    Hey all,

    So I have the online part done and dusted. Now I am trying to get all the additional paper works together. What I am stuck on is the proof of being an independent mature candidate.

    I live with a friend, who owns the house. I did not sign a lease, as a) it's a friends place and b) we both figured there was no need as I'd only be here for a few months. Anyway, I also have no bills here in my name. I rang CDVEC and she said just attach anything official from October 2010 that I would have been sent. I have trawled through all my papers etc. and can't find a thing that shows I was here from October 1st 2010, I have one final internet bill but that is dated in December 2010! I am actually starting to freak out a bit now and the thing is I am only applying for 'fees only'.

    I desperately need some help or advice. Does any one know anything else that's official?

    ps. Also since last June I haven't had a bank account! Unbelievable I know :(

    Can you find anything from august or September of last year. If you can then send that plus the December letter

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #28
    KMM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭KMM


    Yeh I have stuff from each month either side.

    Thanks for that, hopefully it'll be enough :)


  • #29
    threein99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭threein99


    Does the documents for proving residency and nationality etc etc have to be original documents or will copies do ?


  • #30
    KMM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭KMM


    Everything (as in additional documents) have to be originals, but they will return them.

    I was advised to actually hand in mine, they would stamp the copies they make and hand back the originals there and then.


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  • #31
    Applegoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭Applegoat


    Is there a section on the form where you put in the distance the college is from your home, can't find it, but have a vague recollection of filling it in a few years ago ??


  • #32
    threein99
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,596 ✭✭✭threein99


    KMM wrote: »
    Everything (as in additional documents) have to be originals, but they will return them.

    I was advised to actually hand in mine, they would stamp the copies they make and hand back the originals there and then.

    Thats going to be an absolute nightmare


  • #33
    KMM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 64 ✭✭KMM


    Threein99;It is a nightmare, but once you have all the doc's together that'll be it. Better to be sorted now, rather than send it all off and get a call saying it's wrong or somethings missing. I share your pain though, trust me :)

    Applegoat; when I rang to ask about that they said that for the time I was studying to give whatever original paper work you got with results or cert and for when you where unemployed, there is a special form you can download from any VEC that the Social Welfare will have to fill in for you.


  • #34
    i-digress
    Closed Accounts Posts: 692 ✭✭✭i-digress


    This is a small thing, but on the on-line application it asks you to list your 'surname at birth'. I was registered under my mother's maiden name, but when they got married my birth cert was changed so I was under my father's surname.

    So which do I list? I know it sounds finicky, but I just want to get my application in as early as possible.


  • #35
    holy guacamole
    Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭holy guacamole


    Ok this may seem like a stupid question but I can't find the answer in the grant notes or anywhere else for that matter.

    Basically I'm currently living in Waterford city but will be moving to Limerick to begin a degree in UL at the start of August. With this in mind which VEC should I apply to when sending my grant form? It clearly states that you should apply in your home area and not where the college is located but come August Limerick will be my home area. Do they need an address in Limerick before I can apply to the VEC there?

    Thanks in advance.


  • #36
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    holy guacamole wrote: »
    Ok this may seem like a stupid question but I can't find the answer in the grant notes or anywhere else for that matter.

    Basically I'm currently living in Waterford city but will be moving to Limerick to begin a degree in UL at the start of August. With this in mind which VEC should I apply to when sending my grant form? It clearly states that you should apply in your home area and not where the college is located but come August Limerick will be my home area. Do they need an address in Limerick before I can apply to the VEC there?

    Thanks in advance.

    limerick is where you are going to college.
    waterford is where you are from.

    you apply to the vec of where you are from.

    so you apply to waterford :)


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  • #37
    holy guacamole
    Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭holy guacamole


    RoyalMarine wrote: »
    limerick is where you are going to college.
    waterford is where you are from.

    you apply to the vec of where you are from.

    so you apply to waterford :)

    Even though I'm not originally from Waterford?

    Only been living here a couple of years but lived in Co.Kilkenny for most of my life before that.


  • #38
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    holy guacamole wrote: »
    Even though I'm not originally from Waterford?

    Only been living here a couple of years but lived in Co.Kilkenny for most of my life before that.

    yes apply to waterford

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #39
    holy guacamole
    Registered Users Posts: 348 ✭✭holy guacamole


    Thanks to all, much appreciated.


  • #40
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    holy guacamole wrote: »
    Even though I'm not originally from Waterford?

    Only been living here a couple of years but lived in Co.Kilkenny for most of my life before that.

    thats the key point. if you live somewhere for say 2-3 years, then you are considered local, and thats where you apply :)


  • #41
    Sparkie93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Sparkie93


    both my brother and dad are on disability allowance and i put what my dad gets every year and i have my brother as medically unfit to work but i havent put down what he gets every year, do i need to?:confused:
    i applied online and i have submitted my application already


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  • #42
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    i dont think your brothers income will need to be assessed as your not dependant on him, only on your parents.
    if your dad is on disability allowance, he will need to get a form filled from social welfare with their stamp stating his full payments for the year, and how much he received for 2010.


  • #43
    nimrodsson
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭nimrodsson


    Hi Everyone - hoping someone could shed light on this for me.

    I lived with parents in Meath up until end of September 2010.

    Since October 2010 i have lived in Cork.

    This September I'll be starting the Law Society PPC1 course in Dublin (an approved course), and I'll be relocating to Dublin from September through to April and then returning to Cork.

    What local authority should i apply to?

    I'm finding it difficult to find a clear answer to this one.

    Many thanks in advance.


  • #44
    missmaw
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭missmaw


    hi all,

    Just in relation to employment for 2010. Guidance not for section F1 asks for ; P60 for each employment held at the end of 2010.
    Would I be correct in that this is for the job you are in at 31st of that year and not for previous employments that you would have ceased in that year?
    I had ceased employment for one job in July that year and started my current position in Aug.

    Confused myself just reading that back . :eek:

    Basically will I just need my P21 statement and the P60 for the job I was in at end of year 2010

    Thanks in advance


  • #45
    Sparkie93
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 101 ✭✭Sparkie93


    RoyalMarine wrote: »
    i dont think your brothers income will need to be assessed as your not dependant on him, only on your parents.
    if your dad is on disability allowance, he will need to get a form filled from social welfare with their stamp stating his full payments for the year, and how much he received for 2010.

    ok thanks:)


  • #46
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    nimrodsson wrote: »
    Hi Everyone - hoping someone could shed light on this for me.

    I lived with parents in Meath up until end of September 2010.

    Since October 2010 i have lived in Cork.

    This September I'll be starting the Law Society PPC1 course in Dublin (an approved course), and I'll be relocating to Dublin from September through to April and then returning to Cork.

    What local authority should i apply to?

    I'm finding it difficult to find a clear answer to this one.

    Many thanks in advance.



    apply to your home county council.

    so that would be meath.


  • #47
    RoyalMarine
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,824 ✭✭✭RoyalMarine


    missmaw wrote: »
    hi all,

    Just in relation to employment for 2010. Guidance not for section F1 asks for ; P60 for each employment held at the end of 2010.
    Would I be correct in that this is for the job you are in at 31st of that year and not for previous employments that you would have ceased in that year?
    I had ceased employment for one job in July that year and started my current position in Aug.

    Confused myself just reading that back . :eek:

    Basically will I just need my P21 statement and the P60 for the job I was in at end of year 2010

    Thanks in advance

    yes, your p21 statement and the p60 from your employer at the end of 2010 is sufficent.


  • #48
    missmaw
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭missmaw


    RoyalMarine wrote: »
    yes, your p21 statement and the p60 from your employer at the end of 2010 is sufficent.

    Excellent, thank you.

    I'm sure I'll be back with plenty of more questions before this blooming application is sent away.

    Thanks again


  • #49
    nimrodsson
    Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭nimrodsson


    RoyalMarine wrote: »
    apply to your home county council.

    so that would be meath.

    Thanks for your reply.

    Really, not Cork? Considering i'll have lived here a year by the time my course starts, and will be returning afterward...


  • #50
    Annasopra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,102 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    nimrodsson wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply.

    Really, not Cork? Considering i'll have lived here a year by the time my course starts, and will be returning afterward...

    If you lived in cork in October 2010 then I would say cork

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #51
    Quibbler
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ✭Quibbler


    I'm away at the moment and so don't have time to go through all of the forms and guidelines, but can anyone tell me if any of the rules have changed this year, or is it the same as last year?
    If you could qualify last year then will you qualify this year? I was just a bit worried they might change the rules like they did with the 3 year rule last year!


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