Sports Extra (TNT/Premier)

lertsnim · 01-08-2019 11:22am

colmtheperson wrote: »

If you use a UK postal address, such as that of a family member, addresspal or parcel motel should work also if you're stuck you can sign up and access the UK version of premier player and it should work here at least until the UK leave the EU

There's a slight variation on the NI version in that some GAA rights aren't covered

GAA games for some reason aren't shown at all on the Premier Player in any part of the UK.

Red Silurian · 01-08-2019 11:50am

lertsnim wrote: »

GAA games for some reason aren't shown on the Premier Player.

Just saw that, not such a big deal as it goes out on tg4 anyway... Strangely they also claim that content can only be watched in the UK, but under EU laws that shouldn't be the case!

lertsnim · 01-08-2019 11:51am

It can definitely be watched if the subscriber is travelling to other EU countries.

icdg · 01-08-2019 11:59am

EPG changes now occurred - FreeSports to #435.

energy1942 · 01-08-2019 12:12pm

icdg wrote: »

EPG changes now occurred - FreeSports to #435.

Just Activated Premier sports using the red button, received confirmation by email from Sky, it seems clear that Premier Sports 1 & Eir sports 2 are completely different channels, note. Recorded Pro 14 rugby matches Munster v Leinster repeats this afternoon, I see Boxnation still there for now.

DaveHD · 01-08-2019 12:42pm

I have just availed of the Sky Sports Extra package and here is my experience. I should add that I am a VIP member at the highest tier

The pricing or the interpretation of the pricing structure as stated on the Sky Ireland website is NOT as it quite seems to us, the punter, as I found out when I ordered.

1) The ACTUAL base price of the package is €34.00

2) If you have Sky Sports there is in fact a "bundle offer price at present" of €20.00 with a special offer of €10pm for the first six month then €20pm for the next six months THEN €34pm thereafter for the Sports Extra package

I found this out after trying to order online. I was shocked to say the least so I rang Sky

The Sales Rep. told me "Yes after the year the price is €34pm plus the €40pm for Sky Sports.

When I registered my dissatisfaction with this the reply was and I quote the "price is the price" followed by " in a year's time there will probably be another offer but at present it will rise to €34pm for the Sports Extra package.

I stated that if that was the case I would take it BUT I would definitely cancel after the year if that was the price all bar €6pm a doubling of the total Sports package

Does not seem such a bargain now.

I then logged in to my a Sky account and looked at their terms and conditions pertaining to the package as below from the website

"Sports Extra €10 a month for 6 months offer: Existing Sky Sports customers only. Sports Extra price after 6 months: €20 pm. €34 pm price applies if cancelling Sky Sports. Requires Sky TV on 12 month contract. HD compatible box required. Offer ends 27 September. Further terms apply. "

As you can see that this implies that the Sports Extra will be charged at €34 IF the Sky Sports page is cancelled

So I rang up again

This time the response after I launched into my dissatisfaction at the interpretation of the ongoing pricing of the package was " let me finish you have had your say" followed by and to my mind this is the kicker "We (Sky) are kind enough to to provide this reduction"
Well what more could I say. So I reiterated my dissatisfaction at the opaque pricing structure and the fact that I the customer should be thankful that Sky are offering this reduction and that if there was no "bundle" pricing at the end of the period then I would cancel. I was then told that The Sports packages can be canceled at anytime within the year at no penalty save for what was "used" in the period prior to cancellation.

That was that then!

Then I received my email confirmation a which actually now confirms what the true pricing structure is

Sky Sports - Complete Pack €40.00

Sports Extra €34.00

In-Contract discount for 12 months (from 01/08/19 to 01/08/20) -€14.00

Sports Extra Subscription Discounted for 6 months (from 01/08/19 to 01/02/20) -€10.00

And then another rider

We also wanted to remind you that as part of these offers, you've agreed to a new minimum term for the products listed in the table below:

Subscription: Sky TV

New minimum term start date: 01/08/2019

New minimum term commitment: 12 months

And there you have it

energy1942 · 01-08-2019 12:50pm

Still no sign of BT SPORTS on Sky Go yet.

icdg · 01-08-2019 1:03pm

It is a ridiculously convoluted pricing structure, but yeah that’s what it appears to be.

Headshot · 01-08-2019 1:03pm

Where is BT sports HD btw?

I still have BT sports on 413, 414 & 417 (had them with Eir) but they seem to be SD at the moment

Riskymove · 01-08-2019 1:07pm

DaveHD wrote: »

And there you have it

I imagine there will always be an offer but one that keeps you under contract

sniper_samurai · 01-08-2019 1:11pm

Headshot wrote: »

Where is BT sports HD btw?

I still have BT sports on 413, 414 & 417 (had them with Eir) but they seem to be SD at the moment

There don't appear to be any HD channels atm.

Riskymove · 01-08-2019 1:13pm

Headshot wrote: »

Where is BT sports HD btw?

I still have BT sports on 413, 414 & 417 (had them with Eir) but they seem to be SD at the moment

do you have a HD subscription with Sky?

Red Silurian · 01-08-2019 1:18pm

Headshot wrote: »

Where is BT sports HD btw?

I still have BT sports on 413, 414 & 417 (had them with Eir) but they seem to be SD at the moment

Try 867, 868 and 869

Riskymove · 01-08-2019 1:34pm

energy1942 wrote: »

Still no sign of BT SPORTS on Sky Go yet.

the T&C says it could take up to a day

Acosta · 01-08-2019 1:40pm

DaveHD wrote: »

I have just availed of the Sky Sports Extra package and here is my experience. I should add that I am a VIP member at the highest tier

The pricing or the interpretation of the pricing structure as stated on the Sky Ireland website is NOT as it quite seems to us, the punter, as I found out when I ordered.

1) The ACTUAL base price of the package is €34.00

2) If you have Sky Sports there is in fact a "bundle offer price at present" of €20.00 with a special offer of €10pm for the first six month then €20pm for the next six months THEN €34pm thereafter for the Sports Extra package

I found this out after trying to order online. I was shocked to say the least so I rang Sky

The Sales Rep. told me "Yes after the year the price is €34pm plus the €40pm for Sky Sports.

When I registered my dissatisfaction with this the reply was and I quote the "price is the price" followed by " in a year's time there will probably be another offer but at present it will rise to €34pm for the Sports Extra package.

I stated that if that was the case I would take it BUT I would definitely cancel after the year if that was the price all bar €6pm a doubling of the total Sports package

Does not seem such a bargain now.

I then logged in to my a Sky account and looked at their terms and conditions pertaining to the package as below from the website

"Sports Extra €10 a month for 6 months offer: Existing Sky Sports customers only. Sports Extra price after 6 months: €20 pm. €34 pm price applies if cancelling Sky Sports. Requires Sky TV on 12 month contract. HD compatible box required. Offer ends 27 September. Further terms apply. "

As you can see that this implies that the Sports Extra will be charged at €34 IF the Sky Sports page is cancelled

So I rang up again

This time the response after I launched into my dissatisfaction at the interpretation of the ongoing pricing of the package was " let me finish you have had your say" followed by and to my mind this is the kicker "We (Sky) are kind enough to to provide this reduction"
Well what more could I say. So I reiterated my dissatisfaction at the opaque pricing structure and the fact that I the customer should be thankful that Sky are offering this reduction and that if there was no "bundle" pricing at the end of the period then I would cancel. I was then told that The Sports packages can be canceled at anytime within the year at no penalty save for what was "used" in the period prior to cancellation.

That was that then!

Then I received my email confirmation a which actually now confirms what the true pricing structure is

Sky Sports - Complete Pack €40.00

Sports Extra €34.00

In-Contract discount for 12 months (from 01/08/19 to 01/08/20) -€14.00

Sports Extra Subscription Discounted for 6 months (from 01/08/19 to 01/02/20) -€10.00

And then another rider

We also wanted to remind you that as part of these offers, you've agreed to a new minimum term for the products listed in the table below:

Subscription: Sky TV

New minimum term start date: 01/08/2019

New minimum term commitment: 12 months

And there you have it

Good work. If that's the case I might possibly get rid of Sky altogether in a years time if that's the way they're going to price it.

The Nal · 01-08-2019 1:42pm

DaveHD wrote: »

And then another rider

We also wanted to remind you that as part of these offers, you've agreed to a new minimum term for the products listed in the table below:

Subscription: Sky TV

New minimum term start date: 01/08/2019

New minimum term commitment: 12 months

And there you have it

They made that clear to me on the phone. We're basically getting a huge reduction on the BT package for 12 months and then we'll see.

Who knows, we could be paying Amazon this time 12 months.

sniper_samurai · 01-08-2019 1:54pm

The Nal wrote: »

They made that clear to me on the phone. We're basically getting a huge reduction on the BT package for 12 months and then we'll see.

Who knows, we could be paying Amazon this time 12 months.

€34 is expensive for what you get, especially seeing as Eir were charging €30 for 2 more channels.

The Nal · 01-08-2019 2:04pm

sniper_samurai wrote: »

€34 is expensive for what you get, especially seeing as Eir were charging €30 for 2 more channels.

I suppose yeah. Good tactic from Sky to try move people over though. Eir were charging me €32.49. They charge extra per box.

Over the 12 months I will have saved €209.88. Will review next year.

rodge123 · 01-08-2019 2:12pm

You can be fairly sure that it be half price again in 12 months if you call up and cancel.
I Haven’t paid more than half price for sky cinema in years as I call to cancel when each six month offer ends. Same with the few times I had the sports, offered half price again every time (sometimes might need to wait a few days for them to call back or offer appears on site again).
Anyone paying full price is throwing away money.

Save some more money by contacting the sky reps on sky’s boards page and they will call you, saving you the cost of 0818 call!

kooga · 01-08-2019 2:46pm

Any update on the evision platform ? Has freesports come I and if so is it hd? Tks

bugsyb4 · 01-08-2019 3:05pm

Anyone got a response from Eir as to if they have BT Sports as an add on and if so how much are they charging for it?

Don't fancy been on hold to them for an hour and unless you ring at 8am they are nightmare to get through to!

The Nal · 01-08-2019 3:30pm

bugsyb4 wrote: »

Anyone got a response from Eir as to if they have BT Sports as an add on and if so how much are they charging for it?

Don't fancy been on hold to them for an hour and unless you ring at 8am they are nightmare to get through to!

No, shambles from Eir. Customers leaving in droves and signing 12 month contracts with their competition but nowt from Eir.

Mr.Maroon · 01-08-2019 3:53pm

rodge123 wrote: »

Anyone paying full price is throwing away money.

These are the people Sky make their money from. The people who forget they're offers are expired and are paying full price for Cinema & Sports etc.

I haven't paid full price for the Sports package in years - they regularly have half price offers running.

tbayers · 01-08-2019 4:16pm

Mr.Maroon wrote: »

These are the people Sky make their money from. The people who forget they're offers are expired and are paying full price for Cinema & Sports etc.

I haven't paid full price for the Sports package in years - they regularly have half price offers running.

I am one of those"dopes". I rang and asked them can they do anything and they said no. So I need to say I am cancelling and let it ride and see what happens?

paulboland · 01-08-2019 4:19pm

Premier Sports now on Sky Ireland EPG

Premier Sports 1 HD Sky 412

Premier Sports 2 HD Sky 429

lertsnim · 01-08-2019 4:22pm

tbayers wrote: »

I am one of those"dopes". I rang and asked them can they do anything and they said no. So I need to say I am cancelling and let it ride and see what happens?

Tell them you are cancelling as you have received a better offer from Virgin.

rodge123 · 01-08-2019 4:40pm

lertsnim wrote: »

Tell them you are cancelling as you have received a better offer from Virgin.

Or just tell them you like the sports and cinema but don’t watch it enough to pay XX (full price), say you would “probably” keep it if was haf price. That’s what I say every time, sometimes they come back with half price offer on the call and I accept. Other times maybe they offer 30% and i refuse, they usually call back within a few days or weeks with half price offer. Stick to your guns and say you are only willing to pay half price.
Login and check online offers, frequently half price offers there too.

I genuinely wouldn’t pay any more than half price for it, maybe they can sense that when taking to me on call!

tbayers · 01-08-2019 5:30pm

rodge123 wrote: »

Or just tell them you like the sports and cinema but don’t watch it enough to pay XX (full price), say you would “probably” keep it if was haf price. That’s what I say every time, sometimes they come back with half price offer on the call and I accept. Other times maybe they offer 30% and i refuse, they usually call back within a few days or weeks with half price offer. Stick to your guns and say you are only willing to pay half price.
Login and check online offers, frequently half price offers there too.

I genuinely wouldn’t pay any more than half price for it, maybe they can sense that when taking to me on call!

Rang them and saved just under 30 euro. Have everything now for under 90. Thanks. Cancellation seems to be the magic word. Also didn't realise that Sky Entertainment pack you get History, Discovery etc. I was on original so updated that FOC. Thanks. And sorry for hijacking thread.

I have yet to get a communication form Eir saying I have lost BT Sport (have their broadband)

dublinman1990 · 01-08-2019 6:35pm

I didn't know this until now but BT Sport 4K UHD has been renamed to BT Sport Ultimate.

https://sport.bt.com/watch-now/programmes/bt-sport-ultimate-everything-you-need-to-know-S11364379497031

tbayers · 01-08-2019 6:40pm

dublinman1990 wrote: »

I didn't know this until now but BT Sport 4K UHD has been renamed to BT Sport Ultimate.

https://sport.bt.com/watch-now/programmes/bt-sport-ultimate-everything-you-need-to-know-S11364379497031

Doubt very much it will be available in Ireland, their 4k service isn't.

tommyc226 · 01-08-2019 7:45pm

On my Eir vision box, have lost BT sports in SD but still have BT sports in HD?! Presumably that won't last too long.

icdg · 01-08-2019 7:57pm

tbayers wrote: »

Doubt very much it will be available in Ireland, their 4k service isn't.

It *is* their 4K service, with a new name. There’s some hope given in this press release that it may down the road come to Sky.

http://sport.bt.com/news/bt-sport-launches-new-ultimate-channel-as-early-kick-off-joins-new-look-saturday-live-programming-line-up-S11364381078124

Mr.Maroon · 01-08-2019 8:14pm

Will the BT HD channels switch back to their original channel numbers (413, 414 etc) when you sign up with Sky?
It's a bit of pain having them at 867 etc.

martyos121 · 01-08-2019 8:35pm

Added the Sports Extra but the channels still aren’t working on my Sky Q Mini box in the other room, even after a reset. I’ll give it another day since there could be issues moving over from the previous Eir pack, but it’s still not good enough tbh.

Also, I see that they are indeed pushing the price up to €34 after a year even with the original sports pack. Of course a deal will be gotten over the phone, but at that price point, they better give us 4K support on BT in time for the next season.

kooga · 01-08-2019 8:40pm

tommyc226 wrote: »

On my Eir vision box, have lost BT sports in SD but still have BT sports in HD?! Presumably that won't last too long.

What about freesports hd or sd

mackersdublin · 01-08-2019 8:48pm

kooga wrote: »

What about freesports hd or sd

According to https://www.eir.ie/tv/channels/ 420 is SD and 432 is HD

Roland27 · 01-08-2019 8:50pm

coffey87 wrote: »

Now that Premier Sports are stand alone channels in Ireland, will the Premier Player be available to subscribe to here? Not sure if this has already been mentioned.

I asked them this on Twitter and they said no. I don't understand why, TV subscribers in the UK get free access to it. Maybe its something to do with Pro14 rights in Ireland being split between them and Eir? It would've been an ideal solution to get access to PS and Serie A rather than having to join Sky.

They also said Premier Sports will be available on SkyGo.

I was also wondering will Premier Sports be accessible through NowTV Sky Sports Pass?

Vudgie · 01-08-2019 9:03pm

Roland27 wrote: »

I asked them this on Twitter and they said no. I don't understand why, TV subscribers in the UK get free access to it. Maybe its something to do with Pro14 rights in Ireland being split between them and Eir? It would've been an ideal solution to get access to PS and Serie A rather than having to join Sky.

They also said Premier Sports will be available on SkyGo.

I was also wondering will Premier Sports be accessible through NowTV Sky Sports Pass?

The channels are on the Sky Q app now

D14Rugby · 01-08-2019 9:13pm

icdg wrote: »

It *is* their 4K service, with a new name. There’s some hope given in this press release that it may down the road come to Sky.

http://sport.bt.com/news/bt-sport-launches-new-ultimate-channel-as-early-kick-off-joins-new-look-saturday-live-programming-line-up-S11364381078124

What they're saying is because their 4k isn't available here since this is just it under a different name it's not likely to be available here.

D14Rugby · 01-08-2019 9:21pm

Roland27 wrote: »

I asked them this on Twitter and they said no. I don't understand why, TV subscribers in the UK get free access to it. Maybe its something to do with Pro14 rights in Ireland being split between them and Eir? It would've been an ideal solution to get access to PS and Serie A rather than having to join Sky.

They also said Premier Sports will be available on SkyGo.

I was also wondering will Premier Sports be accessible through NowTV Sky Sports Pass?

I imagine the deal with sky probably includes the streaming rights?

Salt Lake Stallion · 01-08-2019 9:22pm

With BT Sport and Premier Sport leaving the eir package I now have to pay a fortune. Sky are just the worst, I truly despise them.

I have eir fibre broadband but can't get any other fibre broadband in my area, so I will have to pay Sky to watch channels that I had for free, on top of paying eir for my broadband.

It's an utter disrgrace that a monopoly like this is allowed to happen, how can one company be allowed to own the rights to all the sports channels? Can't help but think of Gift Grub's song "Sold it to Sky".

Rossi IRL · 01-08-2019 9:31pm

Salt Lake Stallion wrote: »

I have eir fibre broadband but can't get any other fibre broadband in my area, so I will have to pay Sky to watch channels that I had for free, on top of paying eir for my broadband.

You sure about that?

Fairly sure sky, Vodafone etc resell the eir fibre

Could be wrong

Roland27 · 01-08-2019 9:35pm

Right, sorry if this has been asked before (silly question but getting frustrated!) – but is it possible to get the new Sky Sport Extra through either Virgin Media or Vodafone? I know they offer regular Sky Sport as an add-on, but Sport Extra? Or is a Sky subscription the only way to access it? (aside from NowTV)

okidoki987 · 01-08-2019 9:36pm

Salt Lake Stallion wrote: »

With BT Sport and Premier Sport leaving the eir package I now have to pay a fortune. Sky are just the worst, I truly despise them.

I have eir fibre broadband but can't get any other fibre broadband in my area, so I will have to pay Sky to watch channels that I had for free, on top of paying eir for my broadband.

It's an utter disrgrace that a monopoly like this is allowed to happen, how can one company be allowed to own the rights to all the sports channels? Can't help but think of Gift Grub's song "Sold it to Sky".

Totally agree.
Sky take BT's football and charge massive amount for it to new and existing customers.
Anybody on Eir B/B now lose the "free" BT football and have to pay from €10 upwards for it on Sky.
Sky get more paying customers, BT get more money and more PL matches,
Eir lose out totally and after the RU World Cup, can see them in trouble as people cancel their Broadband service (if they can).
Basically means Joe Public has no alternative to Sky now.
Can't understand how the powers that be allowed it to happen.

icdg · 01-08-2019 9:43pm

D14Rugby wrote: »

What they're saying is because their 4k isn't available here since this is just it under a different name it's not likely to be available here.

It’s not available here because, at present, it’s not available on any platform other than BT Vision and Virgin Media UK. BT Vision isn’t available here and Virgin Media Ireland has their own issues with BT Sport in general (not the 4K channel in particular)It’s not the case that it is available to Sky customers in the UK - it isn’t - and there’s a particular issue about Ireland.

If it becomes available to Sky customers in the UK, I would expect it to become available to Sky customers in Ireland too.

D14Rugby · 01-08-2019 9:53pm

icdg wrote: »

It’s not available here because, at present, it’s not available on any platform other than BT Vision and Virgin Media UK. BT Vision isn’t available here and Virgin Media Ireland has their own issues with BT Sport in general (not the 4K channel in particular)It’s not the case that it is available to Sky customers in the UK - it isn’t - and there’s a particular issue about Ireland.

If it becomes available to Sky customers in the UK, I would expect it to become available to Sky customers in Ireland too.

I know... I was just explaining the other posters thinking since you seemd to completely miss it. Calm down.

Salt Lake Stallion · 01-08-2019 10:34pm

Rossi IRL wrote: »

You sure about that?

Fairly sure sky, Vodafone etc resell the eir fibre

Could be wrong

You're probably right so, I know I can't get Virgin because they didn't install fibre on my street, I've already tried them. I didn't know Sky just resell eir, I assumed they needed their own fibre lines like Virgin, I'll give them a call tomorrow so, thanks!

Acosta · 01-08-2019 10:34pm

Salt Lake Stallion wrote: »

With BT Sport and Premier Sport leaving the eir package I now have to pay a fortune. Sky are just the worst, I truly despise them.

I have eir fibre broadband but can't get any other fibre broadband in my area, so I will have to pay Sky to watch channels that I had for free, on top of paying eir for my broadband.

It's an utter disrgrace that a monopoly like this is allowed to happen, how can one company be allowed to own the rights to all the sports channels? Can't help but think of Gift Grub's song "Sold it to Sky".

I doubt such an arrangement would get passed the regulator in the UK. Not here of course. Paddy gets screwed.

I've not signed up yet. The deal just seems to get worse by the day. First there was the lack of HD as standard with BT and now this crap of them expecting customers to pay a total of €72 on top of the basic package for all sports after 12 months. All that money and it's not even in fricking HD!
It just makes me angry. I'm contemplating binning the entire thing, go down the streaming route or watch it in the pub down the road. So much money a month that could be going towards something else. Other than sport everything I watch would be covered by a Freeview dish.

I remember a year ago when all the talk of Eleven Sports and Amazon coming into the market was going to be a complete game changer and really screw Sky's operation. Now they seem more powerful than ever.

Salt Lake Stallion · 01-08-2019 10:39pm

Acosta wrote: »

I remember a year ago when all the talk of Eleven Sports and Amazon coming into the market was going to be a complete game changer and really screw Sky's operation. Now they seem more powerful than ever.

Yeah exactly, I had eleven sports until they lost Serie A & La Liga coverage and turned into a shambles. I remember thinking Sky will at least have to lower prices for Sports with all this competition.

It's happened a few times before, I remember when we had Setanta Sports and NASN before that. Ultimately Sky seem to beat off all competition and increase their market share each time.

Acosta · 01-08-2019 10:43pm

Salt Lake Stallion wrote: »

Yeah exactly, I had eleven sports until they lost Serie A & La Liga coverage and turned into a shambles. I remember thinking Sky will at least have to lower prices for Sports with all this competition.

I was signed up too until they lost Serie A. If Eleven Sport had been more successful subscription wise and and kept hold of Serie A, it would make the decision to dump Sky altogether a lot easier.

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