Joint Problems in Husky

Lenni · 11-09-2008 3:10pm

Hey all,

Well I decided to try calling the breader and I got tru. He said that there is no history of hip issues with the parents. I basically asked has the mother got a history of it and he said no and neither does the father, as he has both of them there with him. He said he hasnt heard of any of the other pups having it either. Just hav to wait and see now how we get on tomorrow.

Fingers crossed!!!

Lenni · 15-09-2008 7:31am

Hey All,

Just to give you an update. We didnt get on too well on Friday, to be honest it couldnt have gone worse. Basically the only way to put it is that his elbow is coming apart. Some of the bone has already disolved, some of it is just floating, it is in a terrible way. The vet wanted to put him down straight away. He showed us a picture in a book of the same situation but said that Ziggy's is a lot worse. The vet rang the vet college and spoke to the head in there, she said that yes it is a very bad case but give the pup a chance. She said put him in a splint for 4 weeks, then bring him back and xray again, if its worst, put him down there and then, if its not worse, repeat again in another 4 weeks. If its still not worse then when he is 6 to 7 months, operate... They said as he is so young, if they operate, he will live a normal life after that. He then rang the top vet surgeon in Ireland, and he said he doesnt no what he would do... So he is in a splint now, not in any pain at all but yet has taken to crying a lot, so he is obviously miserable... We were very upset over the news and in shock so I rang the vet the next day when my head was clearer, I said to him does he honestly think that the pup has a chance, cause if he doesnt I would rather see him go now than live his last 4 weeks with no exercise and in a confinded space. He is only able to go out the back if he has to go to the toilet, otherwise has to stay in doors, if he is out the back he has to b on a lead... Just seems like cruelty to me. Anyway, the vet said yes, after speeking to the woman in the college, I think he MIGHT hav a chance (I really dont think he does) so we will give it the 4 weeks and see what happens then.
As for the breeder, once again we cannot contact him. I text and all and got no reply. I am giving him one week, if nothing then I am blackening his name... It is a congenital disorder so the breeder had to have known about it....

Its all heartbreaking and everytime we look at him it makes u feel sh1t and sad. Say a prayer!

whitser · 15-09-2008 9:10am

:mad::mad::mad::mad: fcuking puppy peddlers. out-look is not good i think. wether the pups lives or not i'd get my money back off that scumbag, put it towards your vet bill,which will be quite high. sorry for your trouble, but sounds like pup would be better off put down, a live in pain is no life.

fits · 15-09-2008 9:23am

Are you sure you're going to be able to look after this pup while he goes through this?

Lenni · 15-09-2008 9:29am

Well the only thing is that they said there will b no pain, not for the moment anyway... I just think he is better off going now. I am demanding my money back, only for the pure fact that I need it to go towards vet fees.
As for looking after him, at the moment he is basically to b locked up for his own sake... I am not doing it as much as I am meant to b regarding locking him up because that is just cruelty, and if he needs surgery I will take time off, I cant see it coming to that though, I think the poor thing only has 4 weeks left with us

whitser · 15-09-2008 9:31am

make sure you get a full and detailed vet report and bill and bring it down to the breeder and demand your money back.

fits · 15-09-2008 9:41am

I had to nurse my dog recovering from a broken leg once (so a lot less complicated). He needed crating and taking out for short walks 6-8 times a day. I could do it as I worked from home at the time, but otherwise it would have been very difficult to manage.

This is a much more complicated issue, and a much longer road. Just make sure you realise what you're getting into.

Lenni · 15-09-2008 9:44am

The way it stands at the moment we might not even get that far with him but if we do I will certainly be doing my best for him. It is an option for us to get him into the vet hospital when he is mending. A lot of money I no but as I said I will just have to get him tru the next 4 weeks b4 we can decide what to do.

Discostuy · 15-09-2008 10:02am

God Lenni thats awful, really sorry to hear your news. I dont think it could be any worse :mad:

Is there a way to take legal action against the breeder. I cant believe someone could be that heartless.

lostinnappies · 15-09-2008 10:59am

wishing you and your puppy all the best, and big hugs. Perhaps you could post the name of the condition cos there is so many out there that it might help someone else.

Lenni · 15-09-2008 11:07am

If I get nowhere with the breeder I will be looking into taking legan action, and its nothing to do with getting money out of him its so that he cant get away with doing this. If we get tru to him and he offers help and that then I wont take action but I cant seeing him being of any help.

To be honest in the upset and shock of the whole thing I never asked what its called but I think its elbow displacia... The other thing I forgot to say is that the vet is not sure yet but thinks it could b starting in the other let too.

Beth · 15-09-2008 12:40pm

Oh Lenni thats heartbreaking

Deffo try get onto the breeder - use a different phone/payphone if you have to.. though the not answering is not a good sign

Wishing you and the family, and the puppy too, the very best though.

Lenni · 15-09-2008 12:43pm

Thanks Beth. So far we have tried on 5 different numbers. I even have a friend trying. He is a pr1ck, soooo annoyed. My poor little pup keeps crying, I just dont no what to do with him.

whitser · 15-09-2008 12:51pm

Lenni wrote: »

Thanks Beth. So far we have tried on 5 different numbers. I even have a friend trying. He is a pr1ck, soooo annoyed. My poor little pup keeps crying, I just dont no what to do with him.

this will sound harsh.but i'd put him down. vets arent too optimistic its starting in the other leg now also you said. not fair on the pup. he'll probably never be right anyway,this could be something that will give him bother his whole life plus something that will be very expensive/draining to treat over the years,in both a financial and emotional terms.
im sure the vet's trying his best by you to give the pup every chance but its you that has to pay and its you that will probably end up having to give the go-ahead at the end of all this for the pup to be puy down.

Lenni · 15-09-2008 12:54pm

I totally understand where you are coming from whitser, that is why I rang the vet on sat morning and said to him, do you honestly think he has a chance cause I dont, and if he doenst then I want him put down now. He said we need to give him a chance. I would feel very very selfish putting a dog down that I love just cause I cant afford it, but I no that is just emotions talking. Ill give it the 4 weeks, I honestly dont think he will be with us after that. If the vet says he has no chance then we will call it a day.

Beth · 15-09-2008 12:55pm

Is there any other way of tracing the breeder - like DoneDeal or gumtree or something?
Could have been a throwaway sim that was used just while having that littler. If they have another litter from another breed, they might be advertising them - have you checked?

Poor puppy

Its upsetting, but please try not to go to him when he's crying. You'll be teaching him that crying=human company. If he does survive, he'll use that lesson for life and its hard to get him to stop.
Go to him when he stops, and give him a bit of a gentle play so he sees quiet results in a bit of fun.
Even if it is 4 weeks, 4 weeks of crying is going to drive you batty.
Gentle play could be anything from a squeaky ball in his crate to a squeaky teddy or rattle. It doesnt have to be mad racing around or any major activity either, you can play with toys with him while in his crate.

whitser · 15-09-2008 1:01pm

Lenni wrote: »

I totally understand where you are coming from whitser, that is why I rang the vet on sat morning and said to him, do you honestly think he has a chance cause I dont, and if he doenst then I want him put down now. He said we need to give him a chance. I would feel very very selfish putting a dog down that I love just cause I cant afford it, but I no that is just emotions talking. Ill give it the 4 weeks, I honestly dont think he will be with us after that. If the vet says he has no chance then we will call it a day.[/quote

hope it all works out. you've nowt to feel guilty over if you do put him down,this isnt your mess.

Lenni · 15-09-2008 1:06pm

Thanks for the advise guys, really appreciate it... Hopefully the cryin will stop if we dont go near him, i think he just doesnt no what is goin on. The phone keeps ringing out, so it is on, he is just not answering. I am keeping an eye on the buy and sell for him selling more pups, cause once he is then he will be taking calls so he will have to answer.
I just cant get my head round the whole thing, we only have him 4 weeks. Just pity him u no. Its not 100% that he has it in the other let, the vet will check it in 4 weeks also.

Lenni · 15-09-2008 3:01pm

Bit of good news. I rang the IKC and they were very helpful. Said his microchip only got put through their systems this morning, so the breeder will get the papers out this week. In the mean time I can write in a complaint about him, give all the details of what has happened and then they can take it from there. They will then give me all of his details and the original vets details.

jenpup · 15-09-2008 3:22pm

Lenni wrote: »

Bit of good news. I rang the IKC and they were very helpful. Said his microchip only got put through their systems this morning, so the breeder will get the papers out this week. In the mean time I can write in a complaint about him, give all the details of what has happened and then they can take it from there. They will then give me all of his details and the original vets details.

that's great they were so helpful, fingers crossed you can get it sorted with the breeder and that the little guy is ok.

Beth · 15-09-2008 5:22pm

Lenni wrote: »

Bit of good news. I rang the IKC and they were very helpful. Said his microchip only got put through their systems this morning, so the breeder will get the papers out this week. In the mean time I can write in a complaint about him, give all the details of what has happened and then they can take it from there. They will then give me all of his details and the original vets details.

Fantastic!!

08-01-2009 3:07am

Really sorry and will probably regret bringing this thread up but - please, how did you get on here?

bigpinkelephant · 08-01-2009 9:31am

I'm absolutely shocked that a puppy could show such serious problems so young.

I hope the litttle fella is OK.
Unfortunately Siberian Huskies are becoming VERY popular and puppy peddlars are breeding them en masse.

Hopefully the little guy is OK and this thread will be a warning to anyone looking to buy a puppy, to make sure the parents have had their hips scored (a general vet check is not enough).

Best wishes OP and please don't let this put you off dog ownership.

Tired · 08-01-2009 11:14am

Hey peeps, as you know I know Lenni and Ziggy personally, just to update you since you asked, Ziggy was given back to the breeder on the basis that Lenni and bf felt it wasnt fair keeping him as they couldnt provide the care and time to see him through his problem but and its a big but the breeder has kept in contact with them and Ziggy is doing absolutely great, turned out he didnt need an operation, may need one in the future but at the moment he is living on a farm with acres of land to run free on and work up the muscles. So alls well that ends well. They havent got another dog as of yet (ive been annoying them to get one, my lil fella missed Ziggy awfully). If Lenni reads this sorry for replying for you but I know you were saying you havent logged on here in a long time...

08-01-2009 3:27pm

Thanks a million for posting, I'm the biggest wimp in the world when it comes to animals - and Siberian Huskies are my absolute favourite breed of dog. And I tried so hard not to click on the photo but when I did, I just had to ask as it was breaking my heart. Extremely delighted to hear that he is doing ok.

Lenni · 14-01-2009 11:10pm

Hey all,

yep as Tired says he is doing really well. Still limping but being looked after very well. And Yes Tired is really going on at us to get another, he he, mayb some day!!!;)

Discostuy · 15-01-2009 10:20am

Fair play to you Lenni. I followed this post from the start and i know you went through hell.
Good on you for being persistent and doing so much for the dog...a lot of people wouldn't have bothered.

Glad to hear it was a somewhat happy ending.

Whispered · 15-01-2009 1:27pm

Thats great news! Delighted to hear it.

Also delighted to hear you didn't take the advice you were given here about putting him to sleep. I got similar advice when my pup got parvo, and he's flying it now. They really are more resiliant than people give them credit for.

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