Clubs and Societies Awards 2012

yuppy700 · 02-03-2012 5:46am #1

Congratulations to all the clubs and societies who got shortlisted.

Anyone who wants to see the shortlisted submissions they are available here

http://skynet.ie/~yuppy700/Hustings%20Submissions/

The hustings take place on Tuesday 6th of March.

Who is your favourite to win in each category ?

shabouwcaw · 02-03-2012 8:08am

no Brian Stewart for Best Society Person? THIS IS AN OUTRAGE

freyners · 02-03-2012 8:28am

dont know about favorutie but i know who id like to see at least one of them;)

OhMSGlive · 02-03-2012 1:04pm

Skynet submission. Best. Submission. Ever.

johnryano · 02-03-2012 4:40pm

yuppy700 wrote: »

Congratulations to all the clubs and societies who got shortlisted.

Anyone who wants to see the shortlisted submissions they are available here

http://skynet.ie/~yuppy700/Hustings%20Submissions/

The hustings take place on Tuesday 6th of March.

Who is your favourite to win in each category ?

I think the worst part is the contents of that docx were just copied and pasted from a a webpage then hosted as a docx on skynet. Seriously, could you not have just hosted it as html or txt even?

OhMSGlive wrote: »

Skynet submission. Best. Submission. Ever.

Just when you think skynet can't embarrass themselves further. that has got to be the worst and most inappropriate submission in ul c&s history. They should be penalised for taking the piss.

reunion · 02-03-2012 5:07pm

johnryano wrote: »

I think the worst part is the contents of that docx were just copied and pasted from a a webpage then hosted as a docx on skynet. Seriously, could you not have just hosted it as html or txt even?

They were circulated as a .docx file as far as I'm aware.... Yuppy just made the docx files publicly available. I think they are going to be available on ulwolves.ie too

johnryano wrote: »

Just when you think skynet can't embarrass themselves further. that has got to be the worst and most inappropriate submission in ul c&s history. They should be penalised for taking the piss.

Don't see how the computer society has embarressed themselves prior to this (or how this is embarressing for them).

I have never seen previous submissions so it's hard to say it's the worst ever. They made the shortlist beating out every other society (bar out in UL and journalism (which they could have beaten or drawn with (or lost to))) so clearly there was worse submissions or every other society was too unorganised/mismanaged to submit something better then the computer society submission. In my opinion that just reflects badly on every other society that didn't submit to new and improved, particulary with the ton of new societies this year!

The computer society got an extra bonus budget point and a potential to go to the BICS awards and potentially to win the hustings. I say well done.

johnryano · 02-03-2012 5:14pm

reunion wrote: »

They were circulated as a .docx file as far as I'm aware.... Yuppy just made the docx files publicly available. I think they are going to be available on ulwolves.ie too

Yes, some noodle head copied lots of text out of a web page into a word file and emailed it to the secretaries of all the clubs and socs. This is embarrassing. What is also embarrassing is the SECRETARY of the COMP SOC hosts these DOCX. Anyone with a bit of computational integrity would never host docx on skynet.

I have never seen previous submissions so it's hard to say it's the worst ever.

Cuinas so.

They made the shortlist beating out every other society (bar out in UL and journalism (which they could have beaten or drawn with (or lost to))) so clearly there was worse submissions or every other society was too unorganised/mismanaged to submit something better then the computer society submission.

Nice trick. It is obvious no other society submitted an entry. The comp soc cynically entered a token submission just to get on the list.

The computer society got an extra bonus budget point and a potential to go to the BICS awards and potentially to win the hustings. I say well done.

exactly, pure cynicism

Ginge Young · 02-03-2012 8:51pm

Comp Soc nomination bit of a disgrace I reckon. Looking forward to all other husts though.

Delta Kilo · 02-03-2012 8:54pm

Hi Cambridge/ Sid justice/ johnryano

Welcome back to boards.

Not going to lie, you were missed there for a while.

How is your manifesto going? Find room for the rail tracks yet?

Ginge Young · 02-03-2012 8:56pm

reunion wrote: »

I have never seen previous submissions so it's hard to say it's the worst ever. They made the shortlist beating out every other society (bar out in UL and journalism (which they could have beaten or drawn with (or lost to))) so clearly there was worse submissions or every other society was too unorganised/mismanaged to submit something better then the computer society submission. In my opinion that just reflects badly on every other society that didn't submit to new and improved, particulary with the ton of new societies this year!

Regardless I believe it is a disgrace to be there. It is a mockery to Out in UL and Journalism who actually put effort into it.

Yes it looks bad on all other Societies because there is quite obviously better ones out there from what I have read of Comp Soc's nomination and from my experience interacting with other societies. They should have nominated themselves, but ah well.

This is obviously something that will hopefully be fixed by council to make sure it doesn't happen again, as in if there are only 3 nominations it doesn't mean they should automatically get through.

But yeh to try and turn this around on other societies (while it does make them look bad to a certain degree) is just dodging the simple fact that the entire nomination is a disgrace, written by someone who knew he would get in on a technicality and who just loves to do this kind of stuff.

freyners · 02-03-2012 11:39pm

Delta Kilo wrote: »

Hi Cambridge/ Sid justice/ johnryano

Welcome back to boards.

Not going to lie, you were missed there for a while.

How is your manifesto going? Find room for the rail tracks yet?

you forgot cambridge4prez/colon there delta

reunion · 02-03-2012 11:52pm

Ginge Young wrote: »

Regardless I believe it is a disgrace to be there. It is a mockery to Out in UL and Journalism who actually put effort into it.

...

But yeh to try and turn this around on other societies (while it does make them look bad to a certain degree) is just dodging the simple fact that the entire nomination is a disgrace, written by someone who knew he would get in on a technicality and who just loves to do this kind of stuff.

I think if journalism and out in ul were the only two candidates, that would be a disgrace.

who cares who the submission is written by? If it was written by a different committee member would it be ok?

either way he got his society an extra budget point. Something each committee should be trying to do (maximizing budget points).

maybe council can try to stop this from happening again, but I think this just happened because people stopped caring about submitting for the hustings. No point in reducing the already low submission numbers (last year they requested submissions and extended deadlines because the submissions were so low), I just hope this highlights to every club and society the importance of submitting for these awards as you could be nominated...

Ginge Young · 03-03-2012 12:00am

reunion wrote: »

(last year they requested submissions and extended deadlines because the submissions were so low),

I don't believe this was the case last year, having served on the Exec and gone through those nominations. I could be wrong however.

It wouldn't matter who that nomination was written by, it shouldn't be a nomination and it is not just ok to start blaming all the other Societies for not submitting.

What is unjust about this is now, a Society that clearly did not go through any effort whatsoever for their nomination can now potentially take this award from two societies, that clearly worked their asses off and put the effort into the nomination. Everything else aside that is the issue I have with it.

reunion · 03-03-2012 10:56am

Ginge Young wrote: »

What is unjust about this is now, a Society that clearly did not go through any effort whatsoever for their nomination can now potentially take this award from two societies, that clearly worked their asses off and put the effort into the nomination. Everything else aside that is the issue I have with it.

But that's the case every year with every submission. A club or society can do a really good submission and still lose because of the presentation. It also works in reverse, you could do a bad submission and still win. Also the submissions of the shortlist was released (as agreed at council) because last year people had voted prior to the start of presentations. Also it allows the chair to know what happened in the last year so information outside of the presentations can be told to be disregarded and clubs and socs can be informed prior to the presentation.

If comp soc had just submitted we would like to nominate ourselves would that have been ok?
It was just the unnecessary content in the finance and summary sections. It wasn't needed and that's the problem I would see.

yuppy700 · 04-03-2012 12:36pm

Ginge....What is with this vendetta that you have against the computer society being up for an award ? The society has improved over the last 12 months and because of that they submitted for the best new/improved society. Their submission was amongst the top 3 for the catagory and as a result they were shortlisted.

What is unjust about this is now, a Society that clearly did not go through any effort whatsoever for their nomination can now potentially take this award from two societies, that clearly worked their asses off and put the effort into the nomination. Everything else aside that is the issue I have with it.

They made a big enough effort to submit a nomination and the effort was good enough to make the shortlist.

Ginge Young · 04-03-2012 9:57pm

They were among the *only* 3 to submit as far as I am aware. There is no vendetta against the computer society whatsoever. Just because I say they shouldn't be there does not mean I have a vendetta against the society.

The nomination was tripe, nothing more and the exec should have the power to just allow two deserving societies threw.

By reading your nomination I should be able to see absolutely everything that you have done and improved upon, instead I see practically nothing, just funny remarks and general taking the piss. I should know what you are going to talk about in the hust and I should know why you are supposedly the best improved society, instead I get nothing from it.

Again if either Out in UL or Journalism lose this, it will be a disgrace.

johnryano · 04-03-2012 9:59pm

Ginge Young wrote: »

They were among the *only* 3 to submit as far as I am aware. There is no vendetta against the computer society whatsoever. Just because I say they shouldn't be there does not mean I have a vendetta against the society.

The nomination was tripe, nothing more and the exec should have the power to just allow two deserving societies threw.

By reading your nomination I should be able to see absolutely everything that you have done and improved upon, instead I see practically nothing, just funny remarks and general taking the piss. I should know what you are going to talk about in the hust and I should know why you are supposedly the best improved society, instead I get nothing from it.

Again if either Out in UL or Journalism lose this, it will be a disgrace.

how do hustings work?

Zeouterlimits · 05-03-2012 12:58am

I can't say I'm super happy with the whole thing. I understand why Brian did it, but having worked to the bone to do one for the Anime & Manga Society a few years ago it kind of grates.

Ginge Young wrote: »

Again if either Out in UL or Journalism lose this, it will be a disgrace.

Just so I understand this Keith, if the Computer Society do a presentation which proved (an opinion) they deserved to win, would it still be a disgrace to win?

johnryano wrote: »

how do hustings work?

Each nominated party gets 3 minutes to give a presentation to every other club & society. Then people vote on a 1 to 3 scale (1 being the best, 3 the worst). Each Club & Society gets one vote.

johnryano · 05-03-2012 1:02am

Ginge Young wrote: »

Again if either Out in UL or Journalism lose this, it will be a disgrace.

I think you've got this wrong. If Out in UL or Journalism are the genuinely better improved society, they deserve to win over Skynet. They don't deserve to win just because their secretary (/rep) wrote a longer and more substantial case for their submission. Sure it's all exaggerated and sycophancy anyway.

Don't be calling things a disgrace which aren't a disgrace. The SU treatment of innocent farm animals is a disgrace, skynet chancing their arm to exploit a loop hole and getting a budget point and a chance (albeit small) to win a group prize isn't a disgrace, it's just good business.

Poor call ginge, poor call.

Ginge Young · 05-03-2012 1:24am

Guys it's just my opinion on it.

The reason why I think it is a disgrace is that someone who under a section named finance wrote:

"LOL we got loads of money. we will make sure to spend it all."

My problem is the presentation to a degree. The system is there to ensure that the best candidates are chosen, the best. The way they do this is by the quality of submissions that come in to the exec for shortlist, instead of everyone being able to do a 3 minute presentation to council.

While yes, if there was only 3 then why not? But I see these awards as something to aim for. They are prestigious and opportunities for them should not given out to applications such as that, even if on technicality. Over recent years yes it has been seen that people tend not to submit anymore, whether it's from lack of getting shortlisted or other reasons I don't know, it is *definitely* something the exec need to examine and encourage more submissions, because there are great clubs/socs out there.

Computer Soc could have done great this year, maybe they are the best new/improved. I don't know I wasn't in it, but I should be able to tell exactly why from the submission and I can't really get anything from it, other than "we worked well together" and they have money and will spend it.

I believe there should only be 2 socs shortlisted, or at least the exec should have that option to them should this happen again (I hope it won't as in I mean I hope more nominations come in).

Sorry if it's being harsh, I just think more effort should have gone in an application where under the Finance it was:

"LOL we got loads of money. we will make sure to spend it all."

And Summation:

"we are unreal !!! Check out the minecraft server"

Let me ask a question;

If six nominations came in under any category with that level of information total in the sections, or even the little bit more they had in some, would you seriously expect the executive to put 3 of them through, and if so, how would they possibly be able to score them fairly?

On a side note, I'm hoping the new scoring system on nominations might encourage people to nominate themselves more if they have an idea on the sections they need to work on, I dunno.

I think that is really the last I'm gonna say on it, anyone who feels like it have a chat with me in the C&S office sometime.

johnryano · 05-03-2012 2:16am

Ginge Young wrote: »

Let me ask a question;

If six nominations came in under any category with that level of information total in the sections, or even the little bit more they had in some, would you seriously expect the executive to put 3 of them through, and if so, how would they possibly be able to score them fairly?

I guess the exec would have to go with what's in front of them. If they couldn't distinguish the socs based on submissions they could petition the socs to resubmit more exhaustive submissions or choose the short list arbitrarily

I think that is really the last I'm gonna say on it, anyone who feels like it have a chat with me in the C&S office sometime.

you've an office?

OhMSGlive · 05-03-2012 2:17am

johnryano wrote: »

you've an office?

No, there's an office upstairs in the SU where Ginge, yuppy and on some occasions myself (and others) hang out to pass the time and talk C&S. It's also technically the CSLO's office.

johnryano · 05-03-2012 2:19am

k must drop in some time and discuss c&s stuff with the three kings

J_E · 05-03-2012 9:56am

Regardless of what Comp Soc may have done, that was a disgraceful nomination, really took the piss, especially the finance part. I'm in a society that had been cut very short over the last year financially and to see 'lots of money lol' is rather sickening.

canned_ulkc · 05-03-2012 2:38pm

Why was your society monies cut?

OhMSGlive · 05-03-2012 2:56pm

johnryano wrote: »

k must drop in some time and discuss c&s stuff with the three kings

Me? King? I wish! :pac:

Chris Martin · 05-03-2012 3:35pm

Personally, being in the Journo Soc,
I'm quite happy with the Computer Societies submission,
Because, even with all their computer expertise for the presentation,
They have nailed their feet to the ground at the start of a sprint,
In regards to finding decent information to put into it,
In regards to their submission.

I don't mean to be overly confident,
But I think I can cut the Comp Soc out of the race in this case,
So, in my eyes, it will be between Journo Soc and Out in UL.

However not knowing what Out in UL have accomplished thus far,
That is as far as I can predict,
And I'd say it'll all be down to the presentation to separate the two.

J_E · 05-03-2012 9:53pm

canned_ulkc wrote: »

Why was your society monies cut?

Without going into it in detail here it was a combination of messups with the C&S money issue in September, mismatched budget distribution, and we feel there were conflicts between one of our committee members and the C&S. It's not something I'm going to kick a fuss over but it is very annoying to see the above when we're looking at a meagre bank account and really needing the extra funding to push us forward.

Chris Martin · 05-03-2012 11:29pm

We started with nothing anyway, bar the money received from registration to the club and a voucher or two I think.
Got a bit from a table quiz and that's about it money wise.
Very limited in what you can do, with a new Club or Soc...
We'll see how this goes, and what the budget is like next year...
Can only hope for the best

Skyrim · 06-03-2012 3:52pm

Anybody recommend the drama society? Hoping to join it at some stage.

PROGRAM_IX · 06-03-2012 8:36pm

I'm proud to be a Skynet member, but I have to agree with Ginge here. The submission they made was beyond poor - it was an absolute joke by someone who knew they could get away with it and raise everyone's hackles. Clearly meant to be funny, but having seen serious submissions (from both a writing and judging point of view) in the past, the fact they made it on to the shortlist leaves a very bitter taste in my mouth.

Whether they have improved as a society or not is the final issue, yes, but clearly the committee didn't think about it or make a group decision - given it was done so late I'd say that they didn't know about it 'til after it was submitted. This could be very embarrassing for the society if they're not prepared to make a good hust. I don't like seeing Skynet made a laughing stock over a submission that a) was made purely because the submitter they knew it would make the shortlist and b) abused this fact by taking the Michael altogether.

Zeouterlimits · 07-03-2012 1:12am

So those at hustings, how did it go?
For Comp Soc & the everyone else? Any particular stand outs?

First one I haven't gone to in four years...

reunion · 07-03-2012 2:30am

I don't know why they never record them!
I'm going to get the ball rolling

New improved Club

Men's Rugby - seemed unrehearsed but should have done well if they rehearsed
Parkour - They really need to stop making parkour videos. Presentation last year was fantastic but the video killed them. Video wasn't as lethal this year, much better that they started with the video. Couldn't hear what people were saying all too well.
Trampoline - very good presentation

Prediction: Trampoline

New improved Society

Computer - The president talked and a game dev guy talked after. English wasn't the president's first language and it reduced the impact of what was a solid presentation.
Journalism - Powerful voice, some funny jokes.
Out in UL - Started well and ended well.

Prediction: Journalism

Close race between Journalism and Out in UL but I think Journalism did the (slightly) better presentation on the night

Best event Club

Karate - Seemed like a holiday, wasn't until about 2 mins and 30 seconds in they showed a clip of karate. Prior to that it was scenary from Japan and them sightseeing. Presentation was quite good because of the video they had done.
Kayak - Seemed good, was funny every now and then.
OPC - Grand, nothing springs to my mind about it

Prediction: Karate as the video was impressive but I would prefer Kayak to win as the presentation itself was about them actually kayaking.

Best event Society

International - A week is now 8 days in the eyes of international society, soon to be 14 days next year.... Too much information about too many different events (they had 8 days worth of events as best event...) so didn't have much impact.
Out in UL - Kept repeating the guests they had, but good presentation
Poker - Solid presentation, nothing spectacular

Prediction: Out in UL

Best individual Club

Karate - Solid presentation, nothing spectacular
OPC - Funny presentation, well thought out.
Windsurfing - Some problems with starting it, solid presentation

Prediction: OPC

Best individual Society

International - Lots of pictures of the individual on a night out, could have focused more about the individuals work and achievements
Out in UL - Good presentation, some funny moments. Just thought it could have been better.
Poker - Solid presentation

Prediction: Poker

Best Club

Karate - Weak voice so didn't come across very well.
OPC - Nothing memorable, I say this because I can't remember much about this presentation. I felt it was average
Windsurfing - Some nice videos, went over time but due to a video freeze for a few seconds during the presentation. Solid presentation

Prediction: Windsurfing

Best society

Drama - Loved the dig at international society! "We don't have a drama department on campus to fund our activities". Solid presentation
International - Mostly pictures of nights out. Talked about TGIF as if everyone knew all the information about it, which brought down the impact of the presentation in general. The australian guy who took over half way saved the presentation.
Poker - Solid presentation

Prediction: Drama. I would say a close race between Drama and Poker but after seeing 2 slides previously about poker (and international), seeing drama was a nice change.

DJCR · 07-03-2012 11:57am

reunion wrote: »

New improved Club

Trampoline - very good presentation

Prediction: Trampoline

Sound for that ....... Woo Hoo - c'mon the Tramps :-)

freyners · 07-03-2012 8:26pm

DJCR wrote: »

Sound for that ....... Woo Hoo - c'mon the Tramps :-)

booooooo:p

come on rugby:D:D

johnryano · 08-03-2012 12:15am

how is men's rugby a new club? is this ul bohemians?

Bored Accountant · 08-03-2012 12:16am

johnryano wrote: »

how is men's rugby a new club? is this ul bohemians?

no, UL rugby. The award is for best new or improved club

johnryano · 08-03-2012 12:18am

ah right. what's happened there with ul bohemians and all that?

Bored Accountant · 08-03-2012 12:21am

johnryano wrote: »

ah right. what's happened there with ul bohemians and all that?

UL Bohemians are a rugby club outside of the college.
http://www.ulbohs.com/

You don't have to be a student to play with them and they don't come under clubs & socs.

the UL rugby club is just a student team same as you have the Womens Rugby club which is another separate club.

johnryano · 08-03-2012 12:24am

It was my understanding that UL Bohemian is a AIL rugby club which is formed by students from UL as well as people from the general limerick area. As a club in the aIL they are entitled to play any member. Dublin University (Trinity) and UCD (UCD) to the exact same thing and compete in the AIL.

Obviously something has changed and UL rugby has broken away from UL Bohemian and started up as a real college club again. I wonder what league they play in, probably a j1?

Bored Accountant · 08-03-2012 12:41am

johnryano wrote: »

It was my understanding that UL Bohemian is a AIL rugby club which is formed by students from UL as well as people from the general limerick area. As a club in the aIL they are entitled to play any member. Dublin University (Trinity) and UCD (UCD) to the exact same thing and compete in the AIL.

Obviously something has changed and UL rugby has broken away from UL Bohemian and started up as a real college club again. I wonder what league they play in, probably a j1?

Students who play for UL Bohs cant represent their home club aswell. They can only represent one or the other. By playing with the college team they can still play with their home club.
From looking at UL Bohs history they have been in existence since 1922. From what i'm reading the connection between Bohs & UL more has to do with the setting up of the Boh's academy back in '99/'00. Haven't seen anywhere on their site where they have mentioned an actual college team playing. (Well from going through their Club Profile anyway)

johnryano · 08-03-2012 12:42am

when UL bohs played dcu etc. in games they would field a pure college team etc.

freyners · 08-03-2012 1:09am

UL mens rugby plays in the colleges league(we got the q finals of the A division this year). You have to be a registered student to play in the colleges team.

UL bohs are an AIl div1b rugby team. You have to be a registered member of their club to play for them

Bohs players can play for UL and visa versa as they are too completely different types of teams. Its like the division between schools and club at underage

johnryano · 08-03-2012 1:15am

how long is ul rugby about?

freyners · 08-03-2012 1:29am

iirc 2006 but im probably going to be corrected on that

johnryano · 08-03-2012 1:30am

how is that a 'new' then?

Jester252 · 08-03-2012 1:34am

johnryano wrote: »

how is that a 'new' then?

Improved

reunion · 08-03-2012 2:14am

reunion wrote: »

I'm going to get the ball rolling

Nobody else any predictions?

If not... Lifetime achievement awards; predictions anyone?

OhMSGlive · 08-03-2012 2:35am

reunion wrote: »

Nobody else any predictions?

Might as well throw a few in the mix.

Societies
Best Soc: Close call between Drama and Poker.
Best New/Improved Soc: Journalism. Hands down.
Best Soc Event: Queerbash 8.
Best Soc Individual: I'll be genuinely shocked if Dan Fox didn't win this. The amount of work he put in was phenomenal.

Clubs
Best Club: OPC or Windsurfing. Too close to call.
Best New/Improved Club: Trampoline.
Best Club Event: Scotland Trip (OPC). It was a decent achievement made by the lads.
Best Club Individual: Rose Barrett. Without question.

Just my personal thoughts, not those of the Music Soc. Also don't take it as an indication of how we voted on the night. (I can't even remember what we voted for! :pac:)

johnryano · 08-03-2012 2:37am

New improved Club

Prediction: Trampoline

New improved Society

Prediction: Journalism

Best event Club

Prediction: Kayak

Best event Society

Prediction: International

Best individual Club

Prediction: OPC

Best individual Society

Prediction: Internationa

Best Club

Prediction: Windsurfing

Best society

Prediction: Drama

Cadroc · 08-03-2012 3:42am

New / improved Club

Men's Rugby - Could have been a very good presentation. Made a joke about Rugby players being in car crashes which in my opinion was in poor taste.

Parkour - Video was quite poor looked like a lot of kids jumping over walls, presentation was a bit better but still has room for major improvements.

Trampoline - Great presentation showing the improvements in the club.

Prediction: Trampoline, hands down possibly the only straightforward pick of the evening.

New improved Society

Computer - Found it hard as a lay person to understand some of the things they were talking about. While the president seemed quite knowledgeable it was hard to follow, but seemed like a good presentation.

Journalism - Excellent presentation, showed what they had done over the last year and made some excellent jokes.

Out in UL - Great presentation, shows how this group is helping Limerick to become more open.

Prediction: Tough call between Journalism and Out in UL. The Jokes from Journalism may have swayed votes.

Best event Club

Karate - A good presentation was destroyed by music being too loud.

Kayak - Technical blips seemed to pop up again, did well to recover. Looked like a good trip.

OPC - Enjoyed the OPC trip presentation the most, interesting to see how they responded to people going missing and putting training into practice.

Prediction: Between OPC and Kayaking, tight call between all three but the music destroyed Karate unfortunately. I'll guess Kayaking won this won.

Best event Society

International - Focused on only a few aspects of the event from what sounds like a great event, good presentation but nerves were obvious.

Out in UL - Again a very strong presentation, Queerbash seemed like a fantastic event but the presentation focused too much on the performers.

Poker - Quite a boring presentation, but showed the effort that went into getting a free poker game ready for unknown numbers of players.

Prediction: Out in UL or International society. Probably Out in UL

Best individual Club

Karate - Good presentation and shows the karate club can produce talented martial artists who are all around good blokes.

OPC - Good presentation and would kinda make you want to join OPC for the banter in it.

Windsurfing - Good presentation, showed Rose as an excellent member of the clubs and socs.

Prediction: OPC for the sheer hilarity of it, but Windsurfing a close second.

Best individual Society

International - Enjoyed the presentation, like i've enjoyed some Friday nights. Computers seemed to be a problem though with sound in this one as well, but they just turned off the sound in the end which I think benefited the speaker.

Out in UL - Also enjoyed this presentation, and very surprised to discover how young the guy is considering everything he's achieved.

Poker - Made the candidate sound very dedicated even when he was just an ordinary member. Poker's best presentation of the night.

Prediction: Tight call. I would guess Niall from Out in UL.

Best Club

Karate - Tough to hear, but made a good presentation and showed how strong the club is.

OPC - Enjoyed the presentation, showed the difficulties the club went through without a climbing wall and the skills that their members have as trainers.

Windsurfing - Good presentation, enjoyed it but found again technology acted up with the video.

Prediction: Very tough call on this. I'm honestly not sure which I think will win.

Best society

Drama - In my opinion this was a brutal performance. One of the presenters said in their speech 'our members had to learn off lines', while reading from a script in a fairly monotonous tone, which was pretty ridiculous. As the Drama soc i expected so much more, something extravagant rather than aimless digs at other societies. I would have liked to have seen them use their dramatic skills to own the room. If done properly they would probably have won.

International - First half of the presentation was full of facts of what had happened and quite mundane, but when the Aussie took over it went up a few notches and was quite a touching speech. Also got a few laughs from his misuse of 'craic' and using the term 'shift'. First half ok, second half excellent.

Poker - Good presentation, but I was disappointed by their recycling of photographs from their previous presentation. This should have been their best presentation but I felt it just lacked as we'd heard everything they had to say already in the previous two presentations. Still a solid presentation from the speakers, but at this stage the crowd seemed restless and it was hard to hear the end of the presentation.

Prediction: Close call between them all, but I think that Australian may have won it for the International society.

Clubs and Societies Awards 2012

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