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The neglected northern end of the 46a

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    #32
    trellheim
    Registered Users Posts: 5,856 ✭✭✭trellheim


    As someone has said once it gets to Phibsboro it moves quite well. The 2 main pinchpoints are

    1. Hanlons corner : priority is given to Prussia St/Old Cabra road rather than NCR ( usually 1 min cycle time ) No possibility of a buslane really although there is just enough space but its a lights priority problem.

    2. Far worse : Cabra Road/NCR at the church. This is NOT due to the yellow box but again really poor priority for the NCR as it gets only 1/4 of the timing, 75% goes to the Cabra road, so the bit between church and Phibsboro fills with vehicles and the buses can't get out. It's only a small timing change needed.


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    The_Wrecker
    Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭The_Wrecker


    trellheim wrote: »

    2. Far worse : Cabra Road/NCR at the church. This is NOT due to the yellow box but again really poor priority for the NCR as it gets only 1/4 of the timing, 75% goes to the Cabra road, so the bit between church and Phibsboro fills with vehicles and the buses can't get out. It's only a small timing change needed.

    If the first cars through take the right lane then we cant get the VT into the left side and must await the next green.
    On another note when we are released by the eagerly awaited green, sometimes the junction is full because of the red light at Doyles corner and a huge backlog.
    Its timing at the Church and Doyles that need tweaking.
    We will tackle Blessington st next!


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    trellheim
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    Ahhh.. Then Extend the box junction a couple of lengths but only on the right hand lane towards doyles corner, that way the VT can get onto the junction and avoid blocking ...


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    The_Wrecker
    Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭The_Wrecker


    trellheim wrote: »
    Ahhh.. Then Extend the box junction a couple of lengths but only on the right hand lane towards doyles corner, that way the VT can get onto the junction and avoid blocking ...

    Move the box up 12ft and encourage car users into the left lane ~ they fear that dreaded left filter red light (Doyles) so wont use the lane.


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    AlekSmart
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    The_Wrecker wrote: »
    Move the box up 12ft and encourage car users into the left lane ~ they fear that dreaded left filter red light (Doyles) so wont use the lane.

    Ah but Wrecker.....the Irish motorist and the term "encourage" do not sit easily together.....;)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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    Conway635
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    trellheim wrote: »


    2. Far worse : Cabra Road/NCR at the church. This is NOT due to the yellow box but again really poor priority for the NCR as it gets only 1/4 of the timing, 75% goes to the Cabra road, so the bit between church and Phibsboro fills with vehicles and the buses can't get out. It's only a small timing change needed.
    The_Wrecker wrote: »
    If the first cars through take the right lane then we cant get the VT into the left side and must await the next green.


    Using the old 14 routing via Annemoe Road onto Cabra Road would get round both of these, assuming lack of official action to actually resolve the issue.

    As per my previous post, even in the 70s the 14s departing from phoenix Park frequently leapfrogged over 10s that left 5 minutes earlier due to the 14 inbound routing.

    C635


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    The_Wrecker
    Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭The_Wrecker


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Ah but Wrecker.....the Irish motorist and the term "encourage" do not sit easily together.....;)

    Its kind of 'Mad max' out there at times. Sometimes the left lane doesnt even get a red stopper. If all fails show 'em the panels!:eek:


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    #39
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    The_Wrecker wrote: »
    Its kind of 'Mad max' out there at times. Sometimes the left lane doesnt even get a red stopper. If all fails show 'em the panels!:eek:

    It all sounds like the recent NEW ! IMPROVED !! Traffic Management system in Sandyford Industrial Estate.....Stupendous amount of Money and Associated other resources to,well.....put in place c.1Km of NEW ! IMPROVED Cycle Lane and add a Static (Non Demand Responsive) Pedestrian Crossing which plays merry-hell with the previously satisfactory arrangement at the Luas Crossing.

    Dun Laoighre-Rathdown Council..."Making sure that nothing that works,remains that way for long !!" :eek:


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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