Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

Dempsey · 17-02-2012 4:51pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Only in a Celtic/Rangers thread could a topic go from Football to Politics.

Its rare for two clubs to epitomize and polarise the political/religious divide of an entire country for several generations.

_blank_ · 17-02-2012 4:52pm

not so rare for people who should know better to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it though.

bobbysands81 · 17-02-2012 4:52pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

explain that?

You seem to be offended that there's talk of politics in a soccer thread.

bobbysands81 · 17-02-2012 4:54pm

Des wrote: »

not so rare for people who should know better to go on and on and on and on and on and on and on about it though.

Any chance you could actually quote the post you're referring to when posting on here Des?

The_Kew_Tour · 17-02-2012 4:56pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

You seem to be offended that there's talk of politics in a soccer thread.

Oh I don't find it one bit offending. no no no...I find it stupid.

You go on about why ye support Celtic (Irish Club bla bla bla) yet ye still can't have a conversation about a game of football without trying to go on point scoring spree about which club sings more offensive songs to the other.

What the hell's name on earth does a Hunger Strike got to do with Football?

It's hilarious at times though, great popcorn viewing.

KeithAFC · 17-02-2012 5:00pm

If Celtic fans want to sing about the Hunger strikers/IRA, let them. Just don't come running to us when we sing songs you don't like as it doesn't fit into your political views.

Dempsey · 17-02-2012 5:01pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Oh I don't find it one bit offending. no no no...I find it stupid.

You go on about why ye support Celtic (Irish Club bla bla bla) yet ye still can't have a conversation about a game of football without trying to go on point scoring spree about which club sings more offensive songs to the other.

What the hell's name on earth does a Hunger Strike got to do with Football?

It's hilarious at times though, great popcorn viewing.

You could make the same point about the Fields of Athenry being belted out at <insert irish sporting event here>

bobbysands81 · 17-02-2012 5:02pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Oh I don't find it one bit offending. no no no...I find it stupid.

You go on about why ye support Celtic (Irish Club bla bla bla) yet ye still can't have a conversation about a game of football without trying to go on point scoring spree about which club sings more offensive songs to the other.

What the hell's name on earth does a Hunger Strike got to do with Football?

It's hilarious at times though, great popcorn viewing.

Fire away with your generalisations mate!

_blank_ · 17-02-2012 5:03pm

there's nothing in his post that doesn't apply to you though.

constantly on the whinge about what songs Rangers are singing, constantly on the whinge about their fans and "history".

You are more obsessed with Rangers and your hatred of them than you are about Celtic, if your posts on here are anything to go by.

They probably aren't a true reflection of them though, given your own history here.

bobbysands81 · 17-02-2012 5:04pm

KeithAFC wrote: »

If Celtic fans want to sing about the Hunger strikers/IRA, let them. Just don't come running to us when we sing songs you don't like as it doesn't fit into your political views.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Oh I don't find it one bit offending. no no no...I find it stupid.

You go on about why ye support Celtic (Irish Club bla bla bla) yet ye still can't have a conversation about a game of football without trying to go on point scoring spree about which club sings more offensive songs to the other.

What the hell's name on earth does a Hunger Strike got to do with Football?

It's hilarious at times though, great popcorn viewing.

The Kew Tour - Do you realise that you've just negated your previous point by thanking that post???

Cantona's Collars · 17-02-2012 5:04pm

Dempsey wrote: »

You could make the same point about the Fields of Athenry being belted out at <insert irish sporting event here>

Didn't you know,it's actually The Fields Of Anfield and us Irish stole it from Liverpool.:pac:

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The_Kew_Tour · 17-02-2012 5:05pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

Fire away with your generalisations mate!

Don't ever stop believing in what you want to think Bobby?(even when it's right in your face).

You will go far with that attitude;)

bobbysands81 · 17-02-2012 5:05pm

Des wrote: »

there's nothing in his post that doesn't apply to you though.

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Don't ever stop believing in what you want to think Bobby?(even when it's right in your face).

You will go far with that attitude;)

I couldn't care less what songs Rangers fans sing.

I didn't bring Hunger Strikers into the thread he's talking about.

I didn't claim Celtic were an Irish club.

I also am not offended with the mixture of sport and politics as it's impossible to keep them separate.

The_Kew_Tour · 17-02-2012 5:06pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

The Kew Tour - Do you realise that you've just negated your previous point by thanking that post???

I know exactly what was meant by it thank you.

_blank_ · 17-02-2012 5:06pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

I couldn't care less what songs Rangers fans sing.

you're funny, I'll give you that.

bobbysands81 · 17-02-2012 5:07pm

Des wrote: »

there's nothing in his post that doesn't apply to you though.

constantly on the whinge about what songs Rangers are singing, constantly on the whinge about their fans and "history".

You are more obsessed with Rangers and your hatred of them than you are about Celtic, if your posts on here are anything to go by.

They probably aren't a true reflection of them though, given your own history here.

What are you bleating about Des?

KeithAFC · 17-02-2012 5:08pm

Des wrote: »

there's nothing in his post that doesn't apply to you though.

constantly on the whinge about what songs Rangers are singing, constantly on the whinge about their fans and "history".

You are more obsessed with Rangers and your hatred of them than you are about Celtic, if your posts on here are anything to go by.

They probably aren't a true reflection of them though, given your own history here.

It is as if the IRA chanting, the cover ups in the past and so on never happens/happened at Celtic. Truly amazing when you think about it.

The_Kew_Tour · 17-02-2012 5:09pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

I couldn't care less what songs Rangers fans sing.

I didn't bring Hunger Strikers into the thread he's talking about.

I didn't claim Celtic were an Irish club.

I also am not offended with the mixture of sport and politics as it's impossible to keep them separate.

in the world of you Politics=Sport.

I heard it all now

karma_ · 17-02-2012 5:09pm

Real shame this thread has descended to this bickering yet again, it deserves a good thread as it's one of the most important football stories of the year so far and could have far reaching implications.

Anyway, carry on.

jack presley · 17-02-2012 5:10pm

So Rangers in administration then. Any chance of getting back on topic?

Eirebear · 17-02-2012 5:10pm

What do Rangers and Celtic fans have in common?

They're all obsessed with Rangers.

bobbysands81 · 17-02-2012 5:12pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

in the world of you Politics=Sport.

I heard it all now

I never made such a statement, I did say they were impossible to separate not that they were the same, stop intentionally misrepresenting what I say.

Dempsey · 17-02-2012 5:13pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

in the world of you Politics=Sport.

I heard it all now

Political views are expressed at many football grounds across Europe/World

The_Kew_Tour · 17-02-2012 5:16pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

I never made such a statement, I did say they were impossible to separate not that they were the same, stop intentionally misrepresenting what I say.

lol

You said you can't separate them ya? and you did say it's impossible to have one without the other ya?

so ahhh ya they kinda would be on same topic of conversation in then ya?

well in your world anyway.....

I think real fans like to keep sport and politics separate and actually support their teams rather then get involved in crap like that.

Anyway back to Rangers and Administration shall we;)

The_Kew_Tour · 17-02-2012 5:17pm

Dempsey wrote: »

Political views are expressed at many football grounds across Europe/World

depends by what you mean by many?

bobbysands81 · 17-02-2012 5:22pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

You said you can't separate them ya?

But you don't seem to be able to separate them either... if you could then you wouldn't be talking about it now.

Eirebear · 17-02-2012 5:23pm

I dont know if this has been posted, and i can pretty much tell you who will react how to it.
Whyte's statement from today.

WHEN I took over as majority shareholder of Rangers in May last year, I knew I had been handed a huge privilege - and an enormous responsibility. My intention then was to do everything I could to safeguard the club's future. And that remains my intention today.

The traumatic events of the last few days have, understandably, led to a great deal of angst and uncertainty as well as firestorm of media speculation, much of it ill-formed and some of it downright malicious.
That an internationally-renowned institution such as Rangers should find itself in administration is bound to create shockwaves, particularly among the club's magnificently-loyal fans, and I fully understand their anxiety.

As chairman, I have been at the centre of this firestorm - and quite rightly so. I knew when I stepped up to take over the club that the challenge of restoring Rangers to financial health after many years of living well beyond its means would be daunting. But I accepted it, both as a life-long Rangers fan and as a businessman with experience in turning round companies in distress.

The decision to call in the administrators was painful but it was the right thing to do. They have promised to publish a full report as soon as possible and I very much welcome that. In spite of the endless speculation and attempts at character assassination by certain sections of the media, I am 100% confident that the administrators' report will prove that every penny that has come in and gone out of Rangers has been properly accounted for. And I wish to state categorically for the record now that I personally have not taken a single penny out of Rangers since I became chairman and have paid all my expenses from my own funds.

Today I learned that my predecessor, Alastair Johnston, has urged the Crown Office to order an investigation into my takeover of the club. Again, I have absolutely nothing to fear because any fair investigation will prove that I have always acted in the best interests of Rangers and been involved in no criminal wrong-doing whatsoever.

While the administrators get on with their work, it is only right that they are given the time and space they require to complete their task. That is why I have decided to take a step back from events so that I do not become a distraction to either that process or to Ally McCoist and the players.

Regrettably, I will not be attending tomorrow's match against Kilmarnock. Although I would dearly love to be at Ibrox for the game, my priority is, and will continue to be, to assist the administrators in any way I can to bring this process to as speedy a conclusion as possible.

Painful though it is for all concerned, administration now gives Rangers a fighting chance - a welcome breathing space - to fix major structural problems that will allow the club to grow and prosper again both on and off the field.

So I send Ally McCoist and the team my very best wishes for tomorrow. And I will end by simply saying to Rangers fans: I know that tomorrow you will prove why you are the best football fans in the world.

Statement from joint administrator David Whitehouse of Duff & Phelps:

CRIAG WHYTE has co-operated with us since our appointment as administrators and we believe his announcement brings further stability to the situation as we conduct the administration of Rangers' business.

As administrators we will continue to ensure the Club's business is run seamlessly as a plan to exit administration is developed.

The_Kew_Tour · 17-02-2012 5:23pm

bobbysands81 wrote: »

But you don't seem to be able to separate them either... if you could then you wouldn't be talking about it now.

Must...try....much....harder;)

Dempsey · 17-02-2012 5:26pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

depends by what you mean by many?

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/many

I'm not going to start arguing about the meaning of many or being to start quantifying the term so you can disagree for the sake of it

Jelle1880 · 17-02-2012 5:35pm

Eirebear wrote: »

What do Rangers and Celtic fans have in common?

They're all obsessed with Rangers.

Spot on, they can't help themselves :cool:

Rangers FC lodge papers to go into administration

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