Windows Phone 7 Launch Thread

T-b0n3 · 30-06-2012 7:11pm

Lost my LG Optimus 7 last night when I was out on the beer. Gutted I am!

Guess I have to splash out on a Lumia 800 now.:(

Odaise Gaelach · 30-06-2012 7:18pm

DjFlin wrote: »

Aside from the under the hood stuff, is there anything noticeably different in Tango?

Not that I've noticed so far. The multiple-attachments in MMS is nifty but I don't know if I'll be using it anytime soon.

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Lost my LG Optimus 7 last night when I was out on the beer. Gutted I am!

Guess I have to splash out on a Lumia 800 now.:(

Sorry to hear that. Is Find My Phone no use at all?

https://www.windowsphone.com/en-IE/find

evolutionqy7 · 30-06-2012 7:25pm

DjFlin wrote: »

Aside from the under the hood stuff, is there anything noticeably different in Tango?

Its mainly under the hood. Just to make the OS more lean and more efficient. The only visually noticeable difference is you will see a notification in the taskbar when location services are used.

T-b0n3 wrote: »

Lost my LG Optimus 7 last night when I was out on the beer. Gutted I am!

Guess I have to splash out on a Lumia 800 now.:(

Try get a 610 or 710 from the north, some are there for 99 pound + unlocking fee. Sort of a waste of getting one when WP8 is a couple of months away.

T-b0n3 · 30-06-2012 7:29pm

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

Not that I've noticed so far. The multiple-attachments in MMS is nifty but I don't know if I'll be using it anytime soon.

Sorry to hear that. Is Find My Phone no use at all?

https://www.windowsphone.com/en-IE/find

Yea I've tried that loads of times. it can't find it.

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Its mainly under the hood. Just to make the OS more lean and more efficient. The only visually noticeable difference is you will see a notification in the taskbar when location services are used.

Try get a 610 or 710 from the north, some are there for 99 pound + unlocking fee. Sort of a waste of getting one when WP8 is a couple of months away.

Yea maybe that would be a better idea actually.

Do-more · 01-07-2012 9:18am

The wife's Nokia 710 is on 7.10.8107.79 it's a sim free phone the carrier is shown as CV GB SW ID313 v02

I've tried to force an update numerous times using this guide but no joy.

I assume that their should be a later software version available for the phone, can anyone fill me in?

[Edit] I stuck with it and eventually succeeded in forcing an update to 7.10.8112.7 but she still doesn't have "internet sharing" what's the story with that?

[Edit 2] Kept at it and now it's at 7.10.8773.98 and she finally has internet sharing.

I was thrown by the fact that my Optimus 7 is only on 7.10.8107.79 but has had internet sharing for months, time to force some updates on it as well now.

N64 · 01-07-2012 9:56pm

Optimus 7 is selling for €127 online +20(?) shipping (vodafone branded) from price guard (who defiantly ship to Ireland, as I have ordered my optimus 7 from them)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B0049I4EFG/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

According to the description, it has no simlock
The translated description:
"original goods with VF Start up animation, without a contract, no Simlock. The phone can be used with all simcards. 24 months statutory warranty incl VAT invoice on your behalf"

evolutionqy7 · 01-07-2012 10:53pm

N64 wrote: »

Optimus 7 is selling for €127 online +20(?) shipping (vodafone branded) from price guard (who defiantly ship to Ireland, as I have ordered my optimus 7 from them)
http://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B0049I4EFG/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new

According to the description, it has no simlock
The translated description:
"original goods with VF Start up animation, without a contract, no Simlock. The phone can be used with all simcards. 24 months statutory warranty incl VAT invoice on your behalf"

Its a great phone for the money, but based on feedback from people here the phone comes with few too many problems, a few of them falling apart too.

AltAccount · 01-07-2012 10:56pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Its a great phone for the money, but based on feedback from people here the phone comes with few too many problems, a few of them falling apart too.

Mine's perfect, never had it in a case either.

I'd consider it a proper bargain at that price

N64 · 01-07-2012 11:26pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Its a great phone for the money, but based on feedback from people here the phone comes with few too many problems, a few of them falling apart too.

I have had mine for just over a year now and nothing has fallen off it

How did you guys get the phone to update to tango? I flashed mine to the OPN firmware, if that makes a difference.

Do-more · 02-07-2012 7:01am

N64 wrote: »

How did you guys get the phone to update to tango? I flashed mine to the OPN firmware, if that makes a difference.

Same procedure as this guide for forcing Mango update. I found that leaving the internet connection on for a couple of seconds before cutting it did the trick.

It took me about 15 attempts with the wife's Nokia 710 before I could force the first update but got my Optimus 7 with the first attempt.

AntiVirus · 02-07-2012 9:31am

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Its a great phone for the money, but based on feedback from people here the phone comes with few too many problems, a few of them falling apart too.

Both my parents have one and they are still working great. They haven't had any problems with them. Maybe (as with all phones) someone got a dodge one?

evolutionqy7 · 02-07-2012 10:32am

http://www.wpcentral.com/some-new-undocumented-features-windows-phone-tango

Undocumented Tango change log

gman2k · 02-07-2012 11:11am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fW2ZTkTM9L8

Diddy Kong · 02-07-2012 3:03pm

yampire wrote: »

Window should do something now because Android takes all of its market, as I am loyal so waiting for the better version of windows other than flop window phone 7

What are you on about or are you here just to troll? How is WP7 a flop, care to backup anything you have said?

FGR · 02-07-2012 10:29pm

Am having a laugh with the Viber app but am wondering how long more will it be until they add voice to it. It can't be that hard given their experience/expertise!

heid · 04-07-2012 2:30pm

Did anyone get mms working on this yet?

_Kaiser_ · 04-07-2012 3:30pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Its a great phone for the money, but based on feedback from people here the phone comes with few too many problems, a few of them falling apart too.

AltAccount wrote: »

Mine's perfect, never had it in a case either.

I'd consider it a proper bargain at that price

We have a load of them (30+) in the office here and nothing but complaints about them.

Mostly OS stuff to be fair to the handset (keyboard sucks, stuff that's taken for granted on an iPhone/Android just isn't there and so on) but we've had several broken screens, others just going dead, and the one I have has a habit of rebooting to the LG screen and staying there (and getting very hot too) until the battery is pulled for about 20 mins (just taking it out and putting it back in doesn't clear it). Being a work phone I have feck all on it except the stock (VF) preload apps.

Dyr · 05-07-2012 9:26am

Other than one instance where it stopped seeing my sim (a long lie down in a dark room sorted that out) my optimus 7 has been rock solid, no case on it and I've given it some abuse over the last year.

moonboy52 · 05-07-2012 9:34am

Bambi wrote: »

Other than one instance where it stopped seeing my sim (a long lie down in a dark room sorted that out) my optimus 7 has been rock solid, no case on it and I've given it some abuse over the last year.

What do you mean a long lie down in a dark room?

My Optimus 7 loses connection to my provider every couple of days. A reboot usually sorts it.

Every 4 to 5 months its like it kills my sim and i have to go to o2 to get a new sim

Dyr · 05-07-2012 9:37am

moonboy52 wrote: »

What do you mean a long lie down in a dark room?

Took the battery/sim out and left the optimus alone for a few days as I suspected it was moisture that had caused the problem. Sorted it out.

N64 · 06-07-2012 2:51am

Got the tango update working now on my optimus 7. OPN firmware.

Undead · 09-07-2012 8:16pm

Hey guys,

I really want to change my Windows Live ID but obviously not lose my 1.5 years worth of Windows Phone app purchases and SkyDrive info etc.

Does anyone know if there's any way to carry over purchases? Or at the very least, just change my ID to a newer (less stupid email that 16 year old me made) email address.

I realize that this isn't a direct WP7 question but they're linked so any help would make me love you!

Odaise Gaelach · 09-07-2012 8:26pm

Let us know if this is any use to you:

http://www.wpcentral.com/guide-how-get-new-live-id-and-keep-all-your-windows-phone-app-purchases

evolutionqy7 · 09-07-2012 8:48pm

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

Let us know if this is any use to you:

http://www.wpcentral.com/guide-how-get-new-live-id-and-keep-all-your-windows-phone-app-purchases

Looks good. Only gripe I got about my address it ends in .co.uk which is pretty annoying for me. All phones have a .com button

people also think my address is fame because usually people only have heard of a .com ending

Undead · 09-07-2012 8:53pm

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

Let us know if this is any use to you:

http://www.wpcentral.com/guide-how-get-new-live-id-and-keep-all-your-windows-phone-app-purchases

Ooh, that looks very helpful. Must give it a whirl tomorrow evening, thanks for that dude!

DjFlin · 09-07-2012 9:46pm

Undead wrote: »

Hey guys,

I really want to change my Windows Live ID but obviously not lose my 1.5 years worth of Windows Phone app purchases and SkyDrive info etc.

Does anyone know if there's any way to carry over purchases? Or at the very least, just change my ID to a newer (less stupid email that 16 year old me made) email address.

I realize that this isn't a direct WP7 question but they're linked so any help would make me love you!

If you've got an Xbox, you can change the account associated with your gamertag. I'm not sure how to do it via PC, but it has to be possible.

I done it through Xbox about a year ago, and it migrated all my purchases on XBL and WP7 just fine.

evolutionqy7 · 20-07-2012 8:20pm

My Titan is giving me a ton of problems

got it sent away third time now.

Not too bothered about any of the other ones really, except that the coverage has been getting terrible and it constantly shuts itself down and I have to pull out the battery to get it back up again.

Was a brilliant phone in the start, started giving me grief afterwards. Repair company replaced the chipset on the 2nd repair with a used one which works even worse...

Any one else out with the same problems?

danger_mouse_tm · 23-07-2012 12:23pm

How old is the Titan?

evolutionqy7 · 23-07-2012 12:33pm

danger_mouse_tm wrote: »

How old is the Titan?

Bought in November.

danger_mouse_tm · 23-07-2012 12:48pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Bought in November.

It could be time to exercise your consumer rights and demand a new phone. Hence how I got my lumia 800 in place of my non booting LG 18 months on..

evolutionqy7 · 23-07-2012 1:13pm

danger_mouse_tm wrote: »

It could be time to exercise your consumer rights and demand a new phone. Hence how I got my lumia 800 in place of my non booting LG 18 months on..

Cant really be making waves seeing as the place I bought it in, is the place I work at

Its OK. If it comes back with the same issue again ill be sure to ask for a replacement.

Odaise Gaelach · 23-07-2012 1:37pm

I don't drive, but this could be nifty to anyone that does...

Traffic option arrives in more countries

Last month we announced that improved and expanded traffic coverage was rolling out to the built-in Maps app. As program manager Scott Borton explained in his post, stage one was enabling traffic info for more highways and secondary streets.

Stage two of the upgrade—just completed— was making traffic info available for selected cities in Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Italy, Luxembourg, Mexico, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Portugal, Russia, South Africa, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, Turkey, Ukraine, and the United Kingdom.

If you live in one of those places, pop open Maps and give it a try. It’s important to note that while the traffic menu option is now available in more places, traffic data might not be (especially if you’re driving through the countryside). So if your roads don’t change color when you tap Show Traffic, it means road info doesn’t exist for that area.

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2012/07/20/the-wrap-expanded-traffic-coverage-nokia-drive-3-0-new-xbox-live-games.aspx

evolutionqy7 · 23-07-2012 1:41pm

Id imagine that that's only available for main roads and big towns.

Google Maps had that for a while, but where I live no traffic info is available with em.

Nokia Drive 3.0 is out or coming soon isnt it?

Odaise Gaelach · 23-07-2012 1:43pm

I think it's actually out now...

Nokia Drive runs on the Nokia Lumia 610, Nokia Lumia 710, Nokia Lumia 800 and the Nokia Lumia 900. The Windows Phone Marketplace will soon notify you of the available update or download it today, for free, following the instructions above.

http://conversations.nokia.com/2012/07/20/a-smoother-drive-one-commute-at-a-time/

evolutionqy7 · 23-07-2012 2:58pm

http://www.phonearena.com/news/First-benchmarks-of-the-Juggernaut-Alpha-Windows-Phone-8-handset-show-a-50-performance-boost_id32557

First benchmarks of the Juggernaut Alpha Windows Phone 8 handset show a 50% performance boost

WP Bench has a new king, and it is the leaked Juggernaut Alpha Windows Phone 8 device that appeared in a developer's list not long ago. Right after comes the HTC Titan II, reportedly the most powerful current Windows Phone device.

Juggernaut Alpha scored 151 points, leaving the Titan II with its 1.4GHz processor in the dust. Now, granted this is a dual-core handset most likely, as Windows Phone 8 brings support for multicore chipsets, but the benchmark comes to show that there will really be an improvement in performance over the current generation of Windows Phone Mango handsets.

gman2k · 23-07-2012 2:59pm

I've had no success trying to update to 8112 from 8107 on my Optimius 7.
I've freed up as much space as possible on the phone by deleting music, videos etc. to save sapce on the back up files, and there is sufficient space on the PC for update space also.
The phone is fully charged, connected to pc using orig cable etc, but still no joy.
WiFi is on as well on the phone during the update stage - BTW the phone is dev unlocked and the PC is running XP SP3.
Any ideas?

evolutionqy7 · 23-07-2012 3:14pm

gman2k wrote: »

I've had no success trying to update to 8112 from 8107 on my Optimius 7.
I've freed up as much space as possible on the phone by deleting music, videos etc. to save sapce on the back up files, and there is sufficient space on the PC for update space also.
The phone is fully charged, connected to pc using orig cable etc, but still no joy.
WiFi is on as well on the phone during the update stage - BTW the phone is dev unlocked and the PC is running XP SP3.
Any ideas?

Is there an update available or you just trying your luck?

gman2k · 23-07-2012 3:29pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

Is there an update available or you just trying your luck?

It's showing 8112.7 available via Zune. Gonna try again with WiFi off....

FGR · 24-07-2012 1:18am

Riddle me this. I can't seem to send messages to Yahoo users I've added to my MSN. On PC I can send/receive messages from them via MSN however I can only receive messages on WP7.5.

Any way to resolve this short of forcing everyone I know onto MSN?

wheresmybeaver · 24-07-2012 9:24am

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

I don't drive, but this could be nifty to anyone that does...

http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_phone/b/windowsphone/archive/2012/07/20/the-wrap-expanded-traffic-coverage-nokia-drive-3-0-new-xbox-live-games.aspx

This has shown up in the last few days as an option in Maps on my HD7. It only really shows main roads and motorways, nothing useful in the city centre (Cork).

Anyway there's still no official routing / searching in Bing Maps for the Irish locale (unless you set your region to UK), so it's still a useless mapping service as far as I'm concerned.

dnme · 24-07-2012 10:05am

I've started reading this thread, its so huge I found myself skipping blocks so forgive me if this topic is already covered. I just wanted to give my observations on wP7.5.

Last week I picked up a HTC radar (sh from adverts). I have been using Windows Mobile on a HTC Touch HD for the past four years so I thought I'd give the next generation OS a go. After a week, I am getting more frustrated.

I had read reviews, watched a few videos on the OS etc. But I simply did not realise how tethered it is. Just some of the things I have come to realise are as follows...

I cant expand storage
No micro-sd support
There is no access to a file explorer
You can only transfer files via Zune. I really dislike Zune and having to use it.
The built in alarm clock is awkward to get at, especially if you hit snooze and then change your mind.
Alarm clock doesn't work when phone is turned off
No permanent display of battery or signal
No way to get stuff on to the phone except via market place.
Forced to use Internet Explorer, No Opera
Very limited customisation options
Settings are limited to a small few options (not great for nerds like me)
Cannot be upgraded to Windows Phone 8
There is no way to close an app. You have to keep pressing back, its awful.
Calendar is very minimalist

So thats just after 1 week. Does it get better or worse from here ?
I'm thinking I might sell on the phone and go for an OS that allows me greater access to its innards. Would Android address some of the above issues?

Down South · 24-07-2012 10:06am

gman2k wrote: »

It's showing 8112.7 available via Zune. Gonna try again with WiFi off....

Ive received this update notification but when I try to install I'm told there is an error with Background Intelligent Transfer service (BITC)

Error code 8018119C

Any ideas?

Odaise Gaelach · 24-07-2012 12:24pm

Down South wrote: »

Ive received this update notification but when I try to install I'm told there is an error with Background Intelligent Transfer service (BITC)

Error code 8018119C

Any ideas?

Problem encountered with the Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS). Try enabling and restarting the BITS service and clear the BITS job queue.

Instructions are here: Installing and troubleshooting problems during the software update for Windows Phone

evolutionqy7 · 24-07-2012 12:49pm

dnme wrote: »

I've started reading this thread, its so huge I found myself skipping blocks so forgive me if this topic is already covered. I just wanted to give my observations on wP7.5.

Last week I picked up a HTC radar (sh from adverts). I have been using Windows Mobile on a HTC Touch HD for the past four years so I thought I'd give the next generation OS a go. After a week, I am getting more frustrated.

I had read reviews, watched a few videos on the OS etc. But I simply did not realise how tethered it is. Just some of the things I have come to realise are as follows...

I cant expand storage (No micro-sd support)
There is no access to a file explorer
You can only transfer files via Zune. I really dislike Zune and having to use it.
The built in alarm clock is awkward to get at, especially if you hit snooze and then change your mind.
Alarm clock doesn't work when phone is turned off
No permanent display of battery or signal
No way to get stuff on to the phone except via market place.
Forced to use Internet Explorer, No Opera
Very limited customisation options
Settings are limited to a small few options (not great for nerds like me)
Cannot be upgraded to Windows Phone 8
There is no way to close an app. You have to keep pressing back, its awful.
Calendar is very minimalist

So thats just after 1 week. Does it get better or worse from here ?
I'm thinking I might sell on the phone and go for an OS that allows me greater access to its innards. Would Android address some of the above issues?

I think in future you'll need to do some research before you buy

If your looking for something to tinker around and mess with and try to tweak the **** out get Android. Most of the things you mentioned are coming with WP8.

But most of us stick with WP7 cause we like the fluidness, simplicity, quality apps and we like the way it works and looks. If I got to an iPhone for a couple of days I always miss the small little bits and especially live tiles. If I go to Android I get annoyed by lag and most of my free time is spend backing up and restoring the phone in between updates...

Diddy Kong · 24-07-2012 1:34pm

dnme wrote: »

I've started reading this thread, its so huge I found myself skipping blocks so forgive me if this topic is already covered. I just wanted to give my observations on wP7.5.

Last week I picked up a HTC radar (sh from adverts). I have been using Windows Mobile on a HTC Touch HD for the past four years so I thought I'd give the next generation OS a go. After a week, I am getting more frustrated.

I had read reviews, watched a few videos on the OS etc. But I simply did not realise how tethered it is. Just some of the things I have come to realise are as follows...

I cant expand storage
No micro-sd support
There is no access to a file explorer
You can only transfer files via Zune. I really dislike Zune and having to use it.
The built in alarm clock is awkward to get at, especially if you hit snooze and then change your mind.
Alarm clock doesn't work when phone is turned off
No permanent display of battery or signal
No way to get stuff on to the phone except via market place.
Forced to use Internet Explorer, No Opera
Very limited customisation options
Settings are limited to a small few options (not great for nerds like me)
Cannot be upgraded to Windows Phone 8
There is no way to close an app. You have to keep pressing back, its awful.
Calendar is very minimalist

So thats just after 1 week. Does it get better or worse from here ?
I'm thinking I might sell on the phone and go for an OS that allows me greater access to its innards. Would Android address some of the above issues?

It does sound like you want an Andriod and not WP7! Alot of your issues are solvable via workarounds, like file transfer, you have skydrive/dropbox/etc.

I honestly prefer that the signal's are not displayed the whole time, makes the UI cleaner looking. If you want to see the details, you tap the battery and they pop up.

Again I prefer Zune to iTunes, dont know what you use for Android as I never saw the appeal of them expect for tweaking.

Again I love the calender, and actually use it more than when I had an iPhone years ago.

As for the upgrade path to WP8, yes it is a pain that we are not going to get the full experience, but will get some of the features, which is the same as with iPhone (they release a new OS and not all features will work with older generation), maybe the way it was worded was not the best. But it gives me an excuse to change phones at the end of the year.

Alot of it seems to be personal preference for what you need. You could always check XDA and see some of the stuff they are doing there with WP7.

Down South · 24-07-2012 2:23pm

Odaise Gaelach wrote: »

Problem encountered with the Background Intelligent Transfer Service (BITS). Try enabling and restarting the BITS service and clear the BITS job queue.

Instructions are here: Installing and troubleshooting problems during the software update for Windows Phone

Thanks I downloaded the fix from the microsoft site.
Tethering at long last!

AntiVirus · 24-07-2012 4:58pm

dnme wrote: »

I've started reading this thread, its so huge I found myself skipping blocks so forgive me if this topic is already covered. I just wanted to give my observations on wP7.5.

Last week I picked up a HTC radar (sh from adverts). I have been using Windows Mobile on a HTC Touch HD for the past four years so I thought I'd give the next generation OS a go. After a week, I am getting more frustrated.

I had read reviews, watched a few videos on the OS etc. But I simply did not realise how tethered it is. Just some of the things I have come to realise are as follows...

I cant expand storage
No micro-sd support
There is no access to a file explorer
You can only transfer files via Zune. I really dislike Zune and having to use it.
The built in alarm clock is awkward to get at, especially if you hit snooze and then change your mind.
Alarm clock doesn't work when phone is turned off
No permanent display of battery or signal
No way to get stuff on to the phone except via market place.
Forced to use Internet Explorer, No Opera
Very limited customisation options
Settings are limited to a small few options (not great for nerds like me)
Cannot be upgraded to Windows Phone 8
There is no way to close an app. You have to keep pressing back, its awful.
Calendar is very minimalist

So thats just after 1 week. Does it get better or worse from here ?
I'm thinking I might sell on the phone and go for an OS that allows me greater access to its innards. Would Android address some of the above issues?

You didn't do much research!

It's well known that you can't customise the windows phone os and all your point are well documented. Did you not think of doing a simple search for pro's and con's? tut tut

Anyway now that you've realised you didn't buy the correct phone, you should spend some time doing some research on which Android phone you should buy. Don't go of thinking a cheap Android phone will give you the same experience as a top Android.

Learn from your mistake and research properly

mad muffin · 25-07-2012 11:56am

Why is updating on WP7 so tedious?

A friend of mine has a Samsung Omnia 7 still on original firmware and OS.

To updated it to 7.5 I have to go through update after update after update...:(

evolutionqy7 · 25-07-2012 2:45pm

mad muffin wrote: »

Why is updating on WP7 so tedious?

A friend of mine has a Samsung Omnia 7 still on original firmware and OS.

To updated it to 7.5 I have to go through update after update after update...:(

LOL give me an example of an exciting update? Why hasn't he updated so? Updates been available for ages for his phone, and that's the way most updates usually go.

TBi · 25-07-2012 3:06pm

evolutionqy7 wrote: »

LOL give me an example of an exciting update? Why hasn't he updated so? Updates been available for ages for his phone, and that's the way most updates usually go.

iOS can update from the oldest version to the latest one with one single update while WP7 needs to install every incremental update. I think that's the point he's making.

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