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  • #102
    Schindlers Pissed
    Registered Users Posts: 221 ✭✭Schindlers Pissed


    Sir Gallagher wrote: »
    Lets for a moment think about this utterly stupid scenario. How would flinging someone 4 feet across the road prevent the damage from a bomb?

    I can see it now, suicide bomber prevention 101 in Templemore, flinging a 4 stone bag of pototoes across a field to prevent the blast.

    It's called "sarcasm"……..and you didn't get it. Not even a little bit.


  • #103
    efb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    FYI: The Head of State is: Michael D Higgins


  • #104
    S31
    Registered Users Posts: 68 ✭✭S31


    that is disgusting! am becoming less and less proud of this country


  • #105
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    There's some closing ranks in this thread!!

    First off the people frequenting this forum know full well that even going to an emergency, escorting a member of government etc etc you're still bound by the rules of the road, that goes for everyone here be they AGS, fire/ambulance services, army escorts etc.

    You also know the rules in relation to pedestrians and giving way to pedestrians.

    To deny the member in the hi-viz was in the wrong & heavy handed is just displaying your bias, and ignorance and discredits you.

    Its not acceptable to me that in a supposedly civilized society members of AGS should act in this manner, and while I'm usually the first among my family and friends to defend the work AGS do the actions of that member leaves me shocked and disgusted.

    Before I'm accused of being thin skinned I've thirty years military service behind me [rtd], so don't make a fool of yourself.

    I hope he's made justify his actions, because his actions and those who close ranks around him discredits and demeans AGS.

    For shame.


  • #106
    bravestar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    Paige Wet Graphology wrote: »
    There's some closing ranks in this thread!!

    First off the people frequenting this forum know full well that even going to an emergency, escorting a member of government etc etc you're still bound by the rules of the road, that goes for everyone here be they AGS, fire/ambulance services, army escorts etc.

    You also know the rules in relation to pedestrians and giving way to pedestrians.

    To deny the member in the hi-viz was in the wrong & heavy handed is just displaying your bias, and ignorance and discredits you.

    Its not acceptable to me that in a supposedly civilized society members of AGS should act in this manner, and while I'm usually the first among my family and friends to defend the work AGS do the actions of that member leaves me shocked and disgusted.

    Before I'm accused of being thin skinned I've thirty years military service behind me [rtd], so don't make a fool of yourself.

    I hope he's made justify his actions, because his actions and those who close ranks around him discredits and demeans AGS.

    For shame.

    I don't see what military service has to do with this, but since you brought it up, you should know what it's like to have your every move analysed and criticised with the benefit of hindsight and a comfy chair. If you actually did anything with your military service you should also know what it feels like to be in a situation where things are getting out of hand and you have to react.

    You don't know what happened before the footage starts, you also don't know what is wrong with the garda at the end of the clip.

    Until the unedited version of that footage comes out, I won't be pointing any fingers at anyone.

    For shame? Save that for yourself, one who should know better than to jump to conclusions.


  • #107
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    I'm not sure why you are treating this as a simple road traffic incident that was overreacted to. This was a head of government being escorted through a hostile crowd. It wasn't a simple pedestrian either. I mean, if you're just going to ignore situational context completely you just look the fool.

    Could he have been softer with her? Probably. Were his actions justified? I'd really want to know why that Garda was doubled over at the end. Or do you also believe he was merely crippled by regret?


  • #108
    masonchat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 663 ✭✭✭masonchat


    Im surprised some comments saying hindsight is easy when the same people apparently have NO sight.

    The clip starts early enough that you can see from the body laungauge and facial expressions of the AGS that nothing was happening prior to that woman approaching the car, you can see them react and start to run towards the car.

    You can also pretty much deduct from the footage that whatever reason that guard bent over at the end the woman had done nothing intentional to him, if anything at all , she may have stepped on his instep or something , but from the moment she is grabbed with the force exerted on her she has no control .

    There is an awful lot of straw clutching going on trying to make light of what happened and it is doing my blood pressure no good.

    I hope there is an EDIT investigation thankfully not an inquest into the incident, but im afraid the outcome will probably be a bravery medal for the guard in the hivis for risking his life jumping infront of a speeding car to save enda from the millitant protestor , im out


  • #109
    bravestar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,082 ✭✭✭bravestar


    masonchat wrote: »
    Im surprised some comments saying hindsight is easy when the same people apparently have NO sight.

    The clip starts early enough that you can see from the body laungauge and facial expressions of the AGS that nothing was happening prior to that woman approaching the car, you can see them react and start to run towards the car.

    You can also pretty much deduct from the footage that whatever reason that guard bent over at the end the woman had done nothing intentional to him, if anything at all , she may have stepped on his instep or something , but from the moment she is grabbed with the force exerted on her she has no control .

    There is an awful lot of straw clutching going on trying to make light of what happened and it is doing my blood pressure no good.

    I hope there is an inquest into the incident, but im afraid the outcome will probably be a bravery medal for the guard in the hivis for risking his life jumping infront of a speeding car to save enda from the millitant protestor , im out

    I think an investigation is a bit more likely than an inquest.


  • #110
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    Saw a quote earlier on Facebook saying she was simply crossing the road and she heard someone shout kenny kenny kenny, she turned around and slapped the bonnet shouting out out out and then the guards grabbed her.


  • #111
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    guil wrote: »
    Saw a quote earlier on Facebook saying she was simply crossing the road and she heard someone shout kenny kenny kenny, she turned around and slapped the bonnet shouting out out out and then the guards grabbed her.

    She was on the radio today saying how she is a regular at protests.


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  • #112
    Fighting Irish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    solomafioso wrote: »
    A bit excessive all right. Three guards to tackle / throw one girl. I mean both parties are at fault here. She shouldn't have been standing near the car and the guards didn't need to use that much force. No one "wins".

    Quite convenient that the hi-vis gets out of the situation (obviously to move down the crowd), but I think there was an ulterior motive :pac:

    In fairness i doubt they planned it, it was a spur of the moment situation


  • #113
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    Little CuChulainn wrote: »
    She was on the radio today saying how she is a regular at protests.

    This isn't what u saw earlier but she says she hit the bonnet. Also the guard may have hit his knee on the bollard.
    http://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/water-charges-protest-woman-intends-to-lodge-gsoc-complaint-651428.html


  • #114
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Fighting Irish wrote: »
    In fairness i doubt they planned it, it was a spur of the moment situation

    No no, it was a conspiracy, the woman was a plant and the gards had it all planned to see if they can't escalate the violence so the gubbernment can bring in the german army to restore order jawohl!


  • #115
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    http://www.thejournal.ie/tall-guard-black-protest-1785683-Nov2014/?utm_source=facebook_short


  • #116
    gctest50
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,605 ✭✭✭gctest50


    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/the-tall-guard-in-black-saved-my-life-he-hit-his-knee-instead-of-my-head-30753426.html
    Bigmambo wrote: »
    WTF? How are you stating something as fact when you weren't there to witness it ????

    What you want to believe and what happened are two different things.

    I'll repeat, slowly for you this time, ... I saw her hit the bollard.


    oh no you didn't :

    http://m.independent.ie/irish-news/the-tall-guard-in-black-saved-my-life-he-hit-his-knee-instead-of-my-head-30753426.html


  • #117
    flyingmachine
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭flyingmachine


    Bigmambo wrote: »
    Believe what you want. Doesn't alter the facts.

    Was the road not closed


  • #118
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    flyingmachine wrote: »
    Was the road not closed

    Nub of it !

    What Paul Murphy and the AAA's buckleppin and codology has brought to Irish Public Life is a realization that one of the cornerstones of a democratic society,free access to public representatives,will now be substantially curtailed.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=31f_1314121806&comments=1

    If An Taoiseach re-visits the Mansion House next week,then Dawson Street will be closed,and the likes of Fiona Healy and her comrades will be roaring their slogans from behind double-barriers,at least 100 mtrs from the target.

    The luxury of an open-top double deck tour bus being stopped directly opposite the man,will also not re-occur,thanks to Fiona,Paul and all those who see some point in this stuff....

    It's not protest at all,in any effective sense,more an excercise in self-indulgence and publicity seeking from disaffected individuals.

    Fiona Healy,we now know is,since somebody forced her to give up her job, a semi-regular at the oul marches n stuff,but with the cost of rearing a child and high busfares,the girl can't get to as many as she'd like...:)


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #119
    kerry4sam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,127 ✭✭✭✭kerry4sam


    Look, this is entirely new circumstances for the force. Gone are the days where you'd have hundreds out on a nightly basis, during the boom years... and they had plans in place for those scenarios; they had plans & personnel in place to deal with varying scenarios and learned through time how to better handle various scenarios during the busy nights.

    These recent events are not what they are used to. Look, just watch that video again and look at the expressions; watch only the faces of serving members; look at the faces of serving members in all aspects of media highlighting these protest-events and you'll see very anxious; very disturbed; very stressed looking members. I cannot remember when last any such event evoked such a response from serving members. They are just not used to this. So much to learn; and they will learn as they do with all new events they encounter.

    The truth is coming out now and sure lookit, even from here, more truth is being revealed. What she was doing what she was doing in a highly volatile situation; she knew how tensions were high and yet she went across the road knowing some action would have to be taken. Lost for words there. Their is protesting and then their is actively looking for trouble.

    Lessons will be learned, but all I can say here is I hope members have some forum; some form of 'counseling', section to contact to speak about the stress they are enduring through this. I think I remember seeing a poster up in a station before about peer-support; maybe not. Anywhoo, just don't go looking for trouble in situations where you know members have their job to do; you know members will be highly pressurised & stressed.

    Just my tuppence,
    kerry4sam

    /that video did not make me in any way sick or disturbed. I just observed and tried to understand the highly volatile situation and wondering what took that lady where she did go. So many options she could have taken, but chose that one for reasons confusing me.


  • #120
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Nub of it !

    What Paul Murphy and the AAA's buckleppin and codology has brought to Irish Public Life is a realization that one of the cornerstones of a democratic society,free access to public representatives,will now be substantially curtailed.

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=31f_1314121806&comments=1

    If An Taoiseach re-visits the Mansion House next week,then Dawson Street will be closed,and the likes of Fiona Healy and her comrades will be roaring their slogans from behind double-barriers,at least 100 mtrs from the target.

    The luxury of an open-top double deck tour bus being stopped directly opposite the man,will also not re-occur,thanks to Fiona,Paul and all those who see some point in this stuff....

    It's not protest at all,in any effective sense,more an excercise in self-indulgence and publicity seeking from disaffected individuals.

    Fiona Healy,we now know is,since somebody forced her to give up her job, a semi-regular at the oul marches n stuff,but with the cost of rearing a child and high busfares,the girl can't get to as many as she'd like...:)

    Yeah it's strange that she was forced out of her job due to child care costs yet is able to attend numerous demonstrations without that same restriction. I also doubt her claim that she just happened to wander in front of Endas car by chance.


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  • #121
    davgtrek
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 405 ✭✭davgtrek


    I'd like to see what would have happened to her if she did this to the head of state in France,England or imagine USA !!! Ask your Polish friends what would have happened her with Polish police !!She got off lightly and the Guards in Ireland generally show restraint & respect on a level that is probably unique across the world.


  • #122
    Murphy7777
    Registered Users Posts: 45 ✭Murphy7777


    davgtrek wrote: »
    I'd like to see what would have happened to her if she did this to the head of state in France,England or imagine USA !!! Ask your Polish friends what would have happened her with Polish police !!She got off lightly and the Guards in Ireland generally show restraint & respect on a level that is probably unique across the world.

    "the Guards in Ireland generally show restraint & respect on a level that is probably unique across the world" …..since when?? I have seen way too many guards in Ireland on power trips pushing people with extreme force to the ground, hitting them etc. I was arrested before for being drunk and disorderly (even tho I didn't do anything except answer back to a smart comment made by one of the guards who could not deal with being "spoken" to like that)and I can tell you they showed anything but "restraint & respect" towards me. Absolute scumbags some (not all) of them


  • #123
    flyingmachine
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭flyingmachine


    davgtrek wrote: »
    I'd like to see what would have happened to her if she did this to the head of state in France,England or imagine USA !!! Ask your Polish friends what would have happened her with Polish police !!She got off lightly and the Guards in Ireland generally show restraint & respect on a level that is probably unique across the world.

    Id also love to see her Kenny/Burton if they were in Greece/Turkey


  • #124
    flyingmachine
    Registered Users Posts: 10 ✭flyingmachine


    davgtrek wrote: »
    I'd like to see what would have happened to her if she did this to the head of state in France,England or imagine USA !!! Ask your Polish friends what would have happened her with Polish police !!She got off lightly and the Guards in Ireland generally show restraint & respect on a level that is probably unique across the world.

    Id also love to see Kenny/Burton if they were in Greece/Turkey


  • #125
    PeteFalk78
    Closed Accounts Posts: 762 ✭✭✭PeteFalk78


    Serves her right.


  • #126
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    davgtrek wrote: »
    I'd like to see what would have happened to her if she did this to the head of state in France,England or imagine USA

    What would have happened in those places?

    Would she be roughed up any more than the guy who tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan, or the man who fired shots at the queen?

    You're another one that imagines that they'd be shot dead in an instant for standing in front of a car I suppose :rolleyes:





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  • #127
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    Murphy7777 wrote: »
    "The Guards in Ireland generally show restraint & respect on a level that is probably unique across the world" …..since when?? I have seen way too many guards in Ireland on power trips pushing people with extreme force to the ground, hitting them etc. I was arrested before for being drunk and disorderly (even tho I didn't do anything except answer back to a smart comment made by one of the guards who could not deal with being "spoken" to like that)and I can tell you they showed anything but "restraint & respect" towards me. Absolute scumbags some (not all) of them

    It's not all about the Police Force either....

    Remember our Policing strategies have been developed largely in tandem with the UK,with lots of focus on "Community based Policing Initiatives" and assorted other buzzy,soft-focused stuff.

    The Community aspect works well enough,just as long as those involved don't have to perform the more realistic role of a Policeman....ensuring that people obey whatever laws are legally enacted to regulate the society they exist in.

    Once you get a situation where a Police Officer has to take action to ensure the law is upheld,then the Community stuff disappears in a puff of blue smoke.

    I'd be confident of seeing a lot more Deployment of Public Order Units from here on in,even if only to ensure the Fiona's of this world are'nt facilitated to "just bang on his bonnet" whenever the mood occurs.

    In some ways this will give the "revolutionaries" and "activists" a renewed zeal in their chosen field,as it will be seen to underline the Oppression inherent in all Statist societies.

    That will be a victory for some but a defeat for the remainder of us....:o


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #128
    SeaDaily
    Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭SeaDaily


    My name is URL wrote: »
    What would have happened in those places?

    Would she be roughed up any more than the guy who tried to assassinate Ronald Reagan, or the man who fired shots at the queen?

    You're another one that imagines that they'd be shot dead in an instant for standing in front of a car I suppose :rolleyes:




    I might be wrong in saying this, but I think the world has probably changed a bit since those clips from last century which you posted.


  • #129
    KERSPLAT!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 31,152 ✭✭✭✭KERSPLAT!


    I think the first two lads had it under control and the third wasn't needed. At the same time though I can see why he came across to help. It was a bit heavy handed, IMO, but if she's gonna jump in front of a car holding the Taoiseach and bang on it she should expect to be swiftly removed.

    All in all, don't run in front of cars causing trouble and this won't/shouldn't happen.


  • #130
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    SeaDaily wrote: »
    I might be wrong in saying this, but I think the world has probably changed a bit since those clips from last century which you posted.

    Well nobody has been shot or killed by the Secret Service or SO14 / Queen's Guard since, either. And there's been more than a few incidents of security breaches between then and now (far more serious than what happened outside of Mansion House too)

    People seem convinced that what this woman did would have led to her been shot in the US or UK, which is just a bizarre belief to have. Maybe she would have been tackled in a similar way as she was by Gardai, but more likely she wouldn't have been able to get so close to the car in the first place.

    People have flung sandals and gotten into elevators with US presidents while armed over the last few years and none of them were shot as a result!


  • #131
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    May they all be struck down with cancer of the genitals though


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    Posted by a garda and 'thanked' by a few more.

    Well done lads


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  • #132
    percy212
    Registered Users Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭percy212


    Enda is a nobody. You can hardly compare him to Obama (who is actually targeted by dangerous people). We have a young woman who is attending a protest, and makes a dash for Enda's car. The gardai should expect that behaviour and be prepared to restrain and escort such protesters away from the action SAFELY. Flinging her around like a bean bag doesn't speak well of gardai training or attitude. This is ENDA KENNY we are talking about again. He is in no danger from anyone except himself.


  • #133
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Got what she deserved in my opinion. Don't throw yourself at a car and the Gardai won't have to throw you away from the car. Common sense, really.


  • #134
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Got what she deserved in my opinion. Don't throw yourself at a car and the Gardai won't have to throw you away from the car. Common sense, really.

    Do you not sometimes pretend to be a photographer?

    You should look more closely at what is happening

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    The Incredible Bulk's colleagues already had the situation under control before he launched himself in front of the car and almost got ran over :o


  • #135
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    My name is URL wrote: »
    May they all be struck down with cancer of the genitals though


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    Posted by a garda and 'thanked' by a few more.

    Well done lads

    That pic, and those who liked it...a tribute to An Garda Síochána. Shameful and vitriolic.


  • #136
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    My name is URL wrote: »
    You should look more closely at what is happening

    The Incredible Bulk's colleagues already had the situation under control before he launched himself in front of the car and almost got ran over :o

    I like this notion of under control, if you play the video in slow motion you will see that the woman was still resisting and more importantly there was less than 0.5 seconds between the time guard 1 and 3 for a hold of her. If you watch closely and slowly you will see that when the first two get a hold of her she is facing away from the car and throws herself backwards towards the car, milliseconds later guard 3 pulls her in the opposite direction that she was throwing herself and she ends up going flying.

    Yes it was a heavy throw but it was an effective response to somebody who has acted in a threatening and violent manner, who then repeatedly attempts to wriggle away from the guards and get closer to the car.

    At the time of the throw the woman was still trying to get nearer to the car, you can come to your own conclusions but I think quickly getting her out of the situation was necessary as a result of her actions.

    Even if you look at the video as it is on Facebook, you can clearly see that at 6.9 seconds she is first touched by a guard and by the start of the 8th second she is already thrown.


  • #137
    Little CuChulainn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,624 ✭✭✭Little CuChulainn


    Miike wrote: »
    That pic, and those who liked it...a tribute to An Garda Síochána. Shameful and vitriolic.

    Not sure what that's got to do with this thread but I'll bite. I can only speak personally of course but I thanked the post because he pointed out the absurdity and danger in blockading and attacking a Garda Station. I didn't agree with wishing harm on people but the Boards thanks system isn't that complex that you can be specific. Hope that clears it up for you.


  • #138
    J Mysterio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,035 ✭✭✭✭J Mysterio


    Your one had a really annoying voice though. They should have picked her up and thrown her down again. Oh my gawwwd.


  • #139
    Barely There
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Barely There


    Murphy7777 wrote: »
    I was arrested before for being drunk and disorderly (even tho I didn't do anything except answer back to a smart comment made by one of the guards who could not deal with being "spoken" to like that)and I can tell you they showed anything but "restraint & respect" towards me. Absolute scumbags some (not all) of them

    I'd imagine you deserved it somehow.


  • #140
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    My name is URL wrote: »
    May they all be struck down with cancer of the genitals though


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    Posted by a garda and 'thanked' by a few more.

    Well done lads
    Can you really blame him for thinking like that. I can only imagine the amount of horse**** the guards have to endure with these so alled peaceful protests. Add to that the possibility of having to knock on someone's door to tell them someone isn't coming home etc. last year my mother in law passed away suddenly and two guards had to come to the house and stay with her until she was brought to the morgue. That must of been absolutely terrible for them.


  • #141
    DirtyLeeds14
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭DirtyLeeds14


    With camera phones everywhere don't get why the Gardai in question would do something so stupid. The politicians there supposedly protecting will be the first to turn on them.


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  • #142
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,296 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Wanna throw a bit of context with that snapshot?


  • #143
    i15
    Registered Users Posts: 3 ✭i15


    it sucked :(


  • #144
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    My name is URL wrote: »
    May they all be struck down with cancer of the genitals though


    7MTgRvB.png

    Posted by a garda and 'thanked' by a few more.

    Well done lads

    I'm not a Garda,nor associated with the force in any way,but apart from the "Cancer of the Genitals" bit, I'd stick an oul "Thanks" there as well.

    Watching how the various "Anti" groupings have attempted to manipulate their "Peaceful Protestery" into some form of National Mantra is all I need to thank this fellas post.

    I'd hope that that poster would reconsider the "Cancer of the G's" bit,perhaps replacing it with offering these "Activists" a year's residence in whatever Nirvana they purport to believe in today.


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #145
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    guil wrote: »
    Can you really blame him for thinking like that. I can only imagine the amount of horse**** the guards have to endure with these so alled peaceful protests. Add to that the possibility of having to knock on someone's door to tell them someone isn't coming home etc. last year my mother in law passed away suddenly and two guards had to come to the house and stay with her until she was brought to the morgue. That must of been absolutely terrible for them.

    While I understand your fundamental point about thanking the post, I still feel I need to ask: You think because a member of AGS is exposed to a certain level of 'abnormality' in their working life that it is okay for them to say something like that, in a fashion that could easily be described as "lashing out" on a public forum?

    I can absolutely understand the levels of frustration that is experienced when the "peaceful protesters" exhibit behavior like the ones spoke about in this thread but I still don't think that's good enough and it certainly doesn't merit comments like that.


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    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You should look more closely at what is happening

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    The Incredible Bulk's colleagues already had the situation under control before he launched himself in front of the car and almost got ran over :o

    Yes, looking closely I see a garda, to the left of the screen, at 2 seconds in, make a bolt out of screen.

    'Garda 3' as he's now known (the hi-vis garda) turns and follows this Garda immediately. As Garda 3 gets to the front of the car, his attention is drawn to a woman who is fighting off Gardai trying to get to the car.

    He quickly assists with the removal of her, and swiftly exits to the left (where he presumably catches up with whatever caught the other garda's attention at 2 seconds).

    As an aside, Garda 3 comes into physical contact with the woman about half a second after the Garda on the right. As he approaches from the front of the car, only one Garda is dealing with the "peaceful protestor".


  • #147
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,296 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    I'd hope that that poster would reconsider the "Cancer of the G's" bit,perhaps replacing it with offering these "Activists" a year's residence in whatever Nirvana they purport to believe in today.

    Just to throw a bit of context to it, and i know people seeing that for the first time would be (rightly) annoyed, but hopefully this explains my actions.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92917992&postcount=9769


  • #148
    guil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,497 ✭✭✭✭guil


    Miike wrote: »
    While I understand your fundamental point about thanking the post, I still feel I need to ask: You think because a member of AGS is exposed to a certain level of 'abnormality' in their working life that it is okay for them to say something like that, in a fashion that could easily be described as "lashing out" on a public forum?

    I can absolutely understand the levels of frustration that is experienced when the "peaceful protesters" exhibit behavior like the ones spoke about in this thread but I still don't think that's good enough and it certainly doesn't merit comments like that.
    I never thanked any post so please be sure before making assumptions.


  • #149
    My name is URL
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,069 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    Just to throw a bit of context to it, and i know people seeing that for the first time would be (rightly) annoyed, but hopefully this explains my actions.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92917992&postcount=9769

    I hadn't seen that follow-up post before now. Fair play


  • #150
    Miike
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,021 ✭✭✭Miike


    guil wrote: »
    I never thanked any post so please be sure before making assumptions.

    I hadn't assumed you had thanked it. I was referring to other posts but my reply had poor structure, my apologies.
    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    Just to throw a bit of context to it, and i know people seeing that for the first time would be (rightly) annoyed, but hopefully this explains my actions.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92917992&postcount=9769

    Atleast you apologised. The context didn't help but the apology certainly goes a long way :D


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  • #151
    wexie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Miike wrote: »
    Atleast you apologised. The context didn't help but the apology certainly goes a long way :D

    certainly not the kind of behaviour or apology you'd expect from the likes of a hairy-knuckle-dragging-violence-fetishist as the average gard is portrayed round these parts some time


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