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thinking of becoming a professional gambler

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  • #32
    Backstreet Moyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,974 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Look you really have to think this decision through. Its not exactly the same thing but when i was in college i played poker alot and done well. When i qualified i decided to give being a pro a shot. I had it all planned out but circustances had changed and i was more reliant on winning than before. I was so sure about everything but i hit a bad streak and it showed me im not capable of being a pro gambler. Im not mentally strong enough. It caused me to get too involved and spend less time socialising and when i was out i would be in a bad mood from having a bad day etc and not the company people want. Of course it wasnt always bad. I was not losing but i was not making enough to be comfortable on. I cant stress enough you have to be sure your able for it. Mentality is the most important thing in my mind. Can you handle the swings. I dont really think you can know if your able for it i thought i was. Imo you need a good bit of money in the bank before you start just incase things dont work out. You could start off well and be successful. But you could also start poorly and doubt yourself and this is where you need a good bit of money to have behind you. Not trying to make the post about myself just through my experience of gambling you need to be able to answer the questions below honestly before you are ready. Their are more aspects im sure but im in a rush and dont have time to look back through it so i apolagise for the grammar. Best of luck if you do decide to do it and of course PM me if you get good info;)



    Do you have a bankroll to support youself if you get off to a bad start?
    Do you have the mentality to overcome bad luck e.g. if you keep getting close to a docket up and let down at the last. Will this affect you badly with your decision making.?
    Will you get depressed?
    Make stupid bets chasing?
    Getting in a bad mood being narky to your friends and family. Becoming obsessed and not spending alot of time socialising?
    Can you afford a losing streak? They do happen.


  • #33
    mark renton
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,696 ✭✭✭mark renton


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    I am a pro punter myself. I focus mainly on the all weather, and I suspect that I am the biggest all weather pro in the UK today, not the world though, I'm no Saul!

    My advice to you would be to try and find the value. The bigger a price you can back winners at, you will find that you make more money in the long and even short term.

    Try to avoid laying winners at big prices. This is the road to the poorhouse.

    People will tell you odds on can never be a good bet. They are probably right. Focus on the big prices and get big payouts. However odds on can be a good price if you are doing a double or treble.

    Best of luck. PM me if you require any more advice.

    this post is so wrong its not even funny...


  • #34
    ft9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭ft9


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    I am a pro punter myself. I focus mainly on the all weather, and I suspect that I am the biggest all weather pro in the UK today, not the world though, I'm no Saul!

    My advice to you would be to try and find the value. The bigger a price you can back winners at, you will find that you make more money in the long and even short term.

    Try to avoid laying winners at big prices. This is the road to the poorhouse.

    People will tell you odds on can never be a good bet. They are probably right. Focus on the big prices and get big payouts. However odds on can be a good price if you are doing a double or treble.

    Best of luck. PM me if you require any more advice.

    A bookies dream


  • #35
    Healio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭Healio


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    I am a pro punter myself. I focus mainly on the all weather, and I suspect that I am the biggest all weather pro in the UK today, not the world though, I'm no Saul!

    My advice to you would be to try and find the value. The bigger a price you can back winners at, you will find that you make more money in the long and even short term.

    Try to avoid laying winners at big prices. This is the road to the poorhouse.

    People will tell you odds on can never be a good bet. They are probably right. Focus on the big prices and get big payouts. However odds on can be a good price if you are doing a double or treble.

    Best of luck. PM me if you require any more advice.

    Persil couldnt clean my boxers after ****tin myself laughing at this; tell me you have a newsletter.


  • #36
    Dailynaps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Dailynaps


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    I am a pro punter myself. I focus mainly on the all weather, and I suspect that I am the biggest all weather pro in the UK today, not the world though, I'm no Saul!

    My advice to you would be to try and find the value. The bigger a price you can back winners at, you will find that you make more money in the long and even short term.

    Try to avoid laying winners at big prices. This is the road to the poorhouse.

    People will tell you odds on can never be a good bet. They are probably right. Focus on the big prices and get big payouts. However odds on can be a good price if you are doing a double or treble.

    Best of luck. PM me if you require any more advice.
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72779027&postcount=1 :pac:


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  • #37
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    Dailynaps wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72779027&postcount=1 :pac:

    Now that's a real gambler !!!:D :D:D

    grin753l.jpg


  • #38
    lamoss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 408 ✭✭lamoss


    To be a pro gambler you need to have a analytical mind at working out odds etc. No going on line or using an app, you need to have the mental ability to
    work out odds as you go along. You cant rely on just picking up the mornings Indo or star and pick out the naps of the day. Dont forget most of these "tipsters" have a staff job earning a nice salary and dont really give a s*it as they hope to work their way up in the paper looking for a nice cushy job. ;)

    The real pros lie low going about their work quietly, they don,t want attention drawn upon them, If they are making a good living they keep it to themselves..........If you hit a winning formula after many years of hard work , would you let everyone know ? The f*ck you would :D


  • #39
    UrbanSea
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,335 ✭✭✭✭UrbanSea


    Dailynaps wrote: »
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=72779027&postcount=1 :pac:

    He was a pure troll. Take nothing he said seriously


  • #40
    pakalasa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,552 ✭✭✭pakalasa


    One thing for sure, it's all about Value. Spotting value, now that's another thing.


  • #41
    orourkeda
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    You'd probably need 6-12 months bills money up front separate from your gambling stash. Just in case things donlt work out in the short term


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  • #42
    beeintheknow
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    Sure what's so wrong with what I said? Perhaps the odds on stuff is a little iffy, I'll admit that. I'm making it pay so who are you all to judge me?

    As for that earlier post that someone dragged up, I've turned things around since then. That was a lowpoint but I've built up a decent bank since.

    Plenty of jealousy here.


  • #43
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    davek2011 wrote: »
    I am thinking of becoming a professional gambler and am looking for advice from people who are professional gamblers.I am 24 and i focus mainly on soccer and golf at the moment and i back horses the odd time.If their is anyone out their that can help it would be greatly appreciated.

    I'd suggest the only way to do it in soccer would be to specialize in something absolutely obscure.

    Palpable errors aside, the bookies never ever make a mistake pricing up a Premier League game and team selection or player injury information comes into the public domain so quickly that there is little chance of being able to use it. And the squads are so deep that even an injury to the best player is unlikely to change the odds of a game.

    However if you specialize in something like Scottish Division 2 and 3, get to know all the players, join all the club fora to get the latest news/gossip then its probably possible to be ahead of the bookies and to spot value and or ricks. Star goalkeeper Duncan McFaddish being out injured is not going to make Sky Sports News, but it may mean that some 15yo old youth trainee is going between the sticks instead, and suddenly that 4/1 about the opposition is a steal.


  • #44
    Dailynaps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Dailynaps


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    Sure what's so wrong with what I said?
    Simply enough, you're not "the biggest all weather pro in the UK today."


    Advice to OP - keep a record of your bets, if you have >10% ROI after say 150 bets, go for it! Start slowly and don't bet more than 5% of your bank but don't be afraid to put all you have into it. GL


  • #45
    ft9
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,408 ✭✭✭ft9


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    Sure what's so wrong with what I said? Perhaps the odds on stuff is a little iffy, I'll admit that. I'm making it pay so who are you all to judge me?

    As for that earlier post that someone dragged up, I've turned things around since then. That was a lowpoint but I've built up a decent bank since.

    Plenty of jealousy here.

    What can I say?

    I'm a jealous kinda guy


  • #46
    AstonMartin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭AstonMartin


    How would your daily routine change?

    Its only a title.


  • #47
    beeintheknow
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    The green eyed monster has consumed you all. I am, to the best of my knowledge, the biggest all weather pro in the UK today, certainly since my mate Will relocated to Australia. Can anyone name a bigger aw pro?


  • #48
    AstonMartin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,313 ✭✭✭AstonMartin


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    The green eyed monster has consumed you all. I am, to the best of my knowledge, the biggest all weather pro in the UK today, certainly since my mate Will relocated to Australia. Can anyone name a bigger aw pro?


    what makes you think you are the best AW punter? Anybody who is that good could not care less what people on an internet forum thinks.

    How about you post a few selections with a staking plan and reasons/estimated edge and we can see how good you are.


  • #49
    beeintheknow
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    AstonMartin wrote: »
    what makes you think you are the best AW punter? Anybody who is that good could not care less what people on an internet forum thinks.

    How about you post a few selections with a staking plan and reasons/estimated edge and we can see how good you are.

    I know I am the biggest (not necessarily the best) based on meeting I have had with various peeps who are in the know. Will Barroman was the biggest but he moved backed to Oz. I was second to Will in terms of turnover. As such I am now the biggest player on the aw in the UK, possibly Europe, definitely not the world.


  • #50
    Dr.Silly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    Sure what's so wrong with what I said? Perhaps the odds on stuff is a little iffy, I'll admit that. I'm making it pay so who are you all to judge me?

    As for that earlier post that someone dragged up, I've turned things around since then. That was a lowpoint but I've built up a decent bank since.

    Plenty of jealousy here.

    A lowpoint ? That was posted in June 2011.
    If you're a pro gambler, you should know that swings can occur for months and months on end ...
    June till now is is like only 3 months !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  • #51
    beeintheknow
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    Dr.Silly wrote: »
    A lowpoint ? That was posted in June 2011.
    If you're a pro gambler, you should know that swings can occur for months and months on end ...
    June till now is is like only 3 months !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I made significant gains playing multitraps in Hall Green later that day and have not looked back since.


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  • #52
    Dr.Silly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    I made significant gains playing multitraps in Hall Green later that day and have not looked back since.

    well. ... well done so.

    hopefully you've got your bankroll management sorted out then ;)


  • #53
    Dr.Silly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,759 ✭✭✭Dr.Silly


    btw, do you have a blog or thread with tips that we could avail of ?
    sure would be nice to get a few big price winners


  • #54
    johnny_cash
    Registered Users Posts: 388 ✭✭johnny_cash


    Welcome back coughlan08 :D


  • #55
    Dailynaps
    Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Dailynaps


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    The green eyed monster has consumed you all. I am, to the best of my knowledge, the biggest all weather pro in the UK today, certainly since my mate Will relocated to Australia. Can anyone name a bigger aw pro?

    Hard to believe the biggest AW pro would have thought just 2.5 months ago that he could use his girlfriend's business as collateral for a loan without her knowing. It just shows too much of a lack of common sense.

    Also, saying odds on is probably never a good bet but only in doubles or trebles shows a complete lack of knowledge of value. If a price adds value to a multiple it obviously has to be value as a single.

    "Try to avoid laying winners at big prices." That was good advice though :pac:


  • #56
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    I made significant gains playing multitraps in Hall Green later that day and have not looked back since.

    Fckers here just aren't going to believe you, they are all a load of sceptical busto degens.

    You should sicken them by proving your bankroll, I'm guessing as a big AW punter it must be close to 6 figures. So stick up a lay that won't be matched on a future event, request say £50K on Rory Mc at 500/1 for the British Open next year, take a screen shot and then take your money down.


  • #57
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    I made significant gains playing multitraps in Hall Green later that day and have not looked back since.

    Hall Green, as in greyhounds?
    Seriously like.

    I'd say the only all weather you've ever had luck on is the local astro turf pitch tbh.


  • #58
    beeintheknow
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    RoverJames wrote: »
    Hall Green, as in greyhounds?
    Seriously like.

    No Hall Green as in speculating on the price of coffee.

    I have always done well at Hall Green, to the extent that I now refer to it as 'all green'.


  • #59
    Thud
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,642 ✭✭✭Thud


    used to work in a country pub years ago that had a pretty highstakes poker game every fortnight that had a few pro gamblers that played. They'd periodically bring along a new mug, someone who'd just sold a farm or pub for a few million and over the course of a few months would proceed to milk said mug until he was either broke or copped on and got out of the game.

    Every so often one of the pro gamblers would stop showing up and word would be that they'd hit a bad streak, rarely saw them after that.

    Most of them steered well clear of horses, too many variables to make it consistent, the one who seemed to be doing best out of it focused solely on golf (and poker), he had a lot of connections in the game and made it his job to know every possible detail, from grass lenght, caddie stats to what ball the player was using and everything in between....eventually he stopped showing up too


  • #60
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 23,339 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thud wrote: »
    ..............
    Every so often one of the pro gamblers would stop showing up and word would be that they'd hit a bad streak, rarely saw them after that.

    ...........eventually he stopped showing up too

    Much like any other business folks go to the wall so to speak.

    I like to make a few hundred a month from gambling, it's a huge pastime (addiction if you like) for me, I get a buzz from the winners and it scratches an itch for me. I have no desire to be a pro punter really.

    I'd like to be a racing correspondent but that's never going to happen, I have as much chance of winning the lotto, and I rarely do the lotto.


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  • #61
    beeintheknow
    Registered Users Posts: 220 ✭✭beeintheknow


    Thud wrote: »
    used to work in a country pub years ago that had a pretty highstakes poker game every fortnight that had a few pro gamblers that played. They'd periodically bring along a new mug, someone who'd just sold a farm or pub for a few million and over the course of a few months would proceed to milk said mug until he was either broke or copped on and got out of the game.

    Every so often one of the pro gamblers would stop showing up and word would be that they'd hit a bad streak, rarely saw them after that.

    Most of them steered well clear of horses, too many variables to make it consistent, the one who seemed to be doing best out of it focused solely on golf (and poker), he had a lot of connections in the game and made it his job to know every possible detail, from grass lenght, caddie stats to what ball the player was using and everything in between....eventually he stopped showing up too

    he must have had a bet when the grass was too long.


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