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Formula 1 2014: General Discussion Thread

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    #3062
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Rumours now this week with it being the Japanese Gp, that Honda are almost 3 months behind schedule on their power unit.


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    #3063
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Rumours now this week with it being the Japanese Gp, that Honda are almost 3 months behind schedule on their power unit.

    With little power and a drinking problem if the press is to be believed.
    I'd take it with a pinch of salt though I think.


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    #3064
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Rumours a plenty for this weekend!


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    #3065
    Zcott
    Registered Users Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭Zcott


    I'd like to know who released that info from the Honda camp...maybe a disgruntled Ferrari employee?

    It'll be interesting how this weekend pans out...


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    #3066
    Going Strong
    Registered Users Posts: 837 ✭✭✭Going Strong


    Zcott wrote: »
    I'd like to know who released that info from the Honda camp...maybe a disgruntled Ferrari employee?

    It'll be interesting how this weekend pans out...


    Especially as it seems to be the the German and Italian media who are running with the story. No vested interests there, no siree. :rolleyes:


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    #3067
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,844 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Rumours a plenty for this weekend!

    Including this: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29422678


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    #3068
    vectra
    Registered Users Posts: 15,507 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Rumours now this week with it being the Japanese Gp, that Honda are almost 3 months behind schedule on their power unit.

    Don't know about that.

    http://www.espn.co.uk/f1/motorsport/story/177145.html?CMP=chrome


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    #3069
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Including this: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29422678

    Eddie getting a dig in at Honda re jordan winning more races for honda than BAR or the works team. If I remember rightly, when Honda decided to return as a works engine supplier, it was expected that the much more successful of its customer teams - Jordan would get the deal. They chose to go with BAR and later the full Honda team and achieved little.


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    #3070
    veganrun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭veganrun


    Gintonious wrote: »
    Rumours now this week with it being the Japanese Gp, that Honda are almost 3 months behind schedule on their power unit.

    Not so sure about that.

    http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12479/9497625/honda-have-revealed-the-first-image-of-the-power-unit-that-mclaren-will-use-in-2015


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    #3071
    wobbles
    Registered Users Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭wobbles


    When bernie does go, Id love to see Eddie get the job. He knows the sport inside out, knows so many on the grid and has the business background to do the job.


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    #3072
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭christy c


    wobbles wrote: »
    When bernie does go, Id love to see Eddie get the job. He knows the sport inside out, knows so many on the grid and has the business background to do the job.

    He basically ruled himself out age wise in his Q&A on the BBC site :)


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    #3073
    Myrddin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 33,733 ✭✭✭✭Myrddin


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Including this: http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29422678

    His comments about Vettel are somewhat surprising.


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    #3074
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,844 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    christy c wrote: »
    He basically ruled himself out age wise in his Q&A on the BBC site :)

    That's a shame, I'd imagine Eddie might care more than Bernie about the smaller teams.


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    #3075
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    veganrun wrote: »
    Not so sure about that.

    http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12479/9497625/honda-have-revealed-the-first-image-of-the-power-unit-that-mclaren-will-use-in-2015

    Renault did the same thing as well.


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    #3076
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Caterham are in serious trouble it seems, bailiffs were at the factory today.
    Some of the stuff taken that will be up for auction listed here.


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    #3077
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭christy c


    smellslikeshoes wrote: »
    Caterham are in serious trouble it seems, bailiffs were at the factory today.
    Some of the stuff taken that will be up for auction is listed here.

    Looks very serious alright, particularly the parts due to be used in Japan.

    On a side note, I wouldn't fancy getting in to an argument with the CEO of the sheriffs office


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    #3078
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Car parts, simulator, wheels and tyres, tools?
    They may as well just close the doors.


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    #3079
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,269 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    christy c wrote: »

    On a side note, I wouldn't fancy getting in to an argument with the CEO of the sheriffs office

    He is made for the job alright. He does appear to like his job judging by the photo.


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    #3080
    Ghost Train
    Registered Users Posts: 30,038 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    smellslikeshoes wrote: »
    Caterham are in serious trouble it seems, bailiffs were at the factory today.
    Some of the stuff taken that will be up for auction listed here.

    That's kind of sad, wonder will Kobayashi be racing in Japan so


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    #3081
    Joeseph Balls
    Registered Users Posts: 3,710 ✭✭✭Joeseph Balls


    Ghost Train wrote: »
    That's kind of sad, wonder will Kobayashi be racing in Japan so

    Just seen on twitter they are going ahead with the Japanese GP.


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    #3082
    smellslikeshoes
    Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    mickdw wrote: »
    Car parts, simulator, wheels and tyres, tools?
    They may as well just close the doors.

    The important stuff is already in Japan, would mostly just be spares/used stuff I imagine. Doesn't really change how bad it looks though.


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    #3083
    zombieHanalei
    Closed Accounts Posts: 695 ✭✭✭zombieHanalei


    Joeseph Balls wrote: »
    Just seen on twitter they are going ahead with the Japanese GP.

    I'll believe it when I see it unfortunately. I'd hate to see something like what happened with Arrows in 2002 when they sent the cars out for a lap in the qualifying sessions and deliberately made sure to set times outside the 107% limit as they couldn't afford to run in the race. Don't know if that was just to collect appearance fees or if it was to avoid financial penalties for missing the race.

    Looks like three car teams is now one step closer, pity, I really hope it doesn't come to that.


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    #3084
    Infoanon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    zombieHanalei wrote: »
    I'll believe it when I see it unfortunately. I'd hate to see something like what happened with Arrows in 2002 when they sent the cars out for a lap in the qualifying sessions and deliberately made sure to set times outside the 107% limit as they couldn't afford to run in the race. Don't know if that was just to collect appearance fees or if it was to avoid financial penalties for missing the race.
    .

    Arrows - ran the cars to avoid a financial penalty ie exclusion from the championship.

    Caterham - your choice is to believe the High Court enforcement officers, the sheriffs office or believe the Caterham press release.

    I would expect the team to compete at the weekend but alas after that it looks doubtful.

    The announcement today that there is a financial dispute between Simona de Silvestros management team and Sauber does not bode to well for Sauber and the rumour that Marussia will close after Sochi just wont go away.


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    #3085
    Infoanon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Interestingly an article appeared in this mornings Daily Telegraph stating that work on the 2015 Caterham has come to a halt, payments for parts at issue.

    I hope we dont end up with a HRT scenario were the Cars were raced with parts well beyond their mileage tolerances.


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    #3086
    Robbo
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    Infoanon wrote: »
    Arrows - ran the cars to avoid a financial penalty ie exclusion from the championship.

    Caterham - your choice is to believe the High Court enforcement officers, the sheriffs office or believe the Caterham press release.

    I would expect the team to compete at the weekend but alas after that it looks doubtful.

    The announcement today that there is a financial dispute between Simona de Silvestros management team and Sauber does not bode to well for Sauber and the rumour that Marussia will close after Sochi just wont go away.
    We're looking at 3 car teams then next year, aren't we? In which case, who'll be first to shake down Bernie for some extra cash?


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    #3087
    Infoanon
    Registered Users Posts: 4,624 ✭✭✭Infoanon


    Robbo wrote: »
    We're looking at 3 car teams then next year, aren't we? In which case, who'll be first to shake down Bernie for some extra cash?

    Apparently there is a loose agreement that if the numbers fall to 16 then the top 4 teams will run an additional car.

    The 3rd car will not be eligible for points and a team can decline the option to run a third car - thus you have Mclaren saying its too late to run a 3rd car next season.

    The real issue however is that FOM have guaranteed a minimum 20 car grid for each F1 event - thus conceivable FOM could be in breach of its agreement with FIA if 3 cars are not run.

    How this will play out is going to be interesting - maybe FOM will beforced to help the smaller teams to avoid being held to ransom by the big 4?


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    #3088
    acquiescefc
    Registered Users Posts: 2,367 ✭✭✭acquiescefc


    Has there been much mention of the typhoon on its way?

    In Tokyo at the mo and getting a tad worried.


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    #3089
    christy c
    Registered Users Posts: 2,193 ✭✭✭christy c


    Infoanon wrote: »
    The 3rd car will not be eligible for points

    How does that work then? Are they just running a third car for the sake of it.

    I remember 3 car teams being mentioned in the late 90s as well


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    #3090
    bnt
    Registered Users Posts: 12,959 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    acquiescefc wrote: »
    Has there been much mention of the typhoon on its way?

    In Tokyo at the mo and getting a tad worried.
    I was going to mention that too. Based on current predictions, the worst will come well after the Grand Prix, but that doesn't rule out rain.

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #3091
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,301 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    A wet Japanese GP would be sweet.


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