The 100 [CW - US] [ Spoilers ]

gazzer · 07-11-2014 9:03am

Its a great show. Pity it is doing badly in the ratings in the states.

silverharp · 07-11-2014 9:55am

I find it difficult to buy the whole radiation premise , it seems to be so bad that the mountain people burn in minutes yet somehow the off worlders have adapted to it yet it didn't kill them in space. I am curious to find out more about the mountain people society. I find the natives a bit boring , I wish they were a bit more Mad Max ;-)

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-11-2014 1:09pm

silverharp wrote: »

I find it difficult to buy the whole radiation premise , it seems to be so bad that the mountain people burn in minutes yet somehow the off worlders have adapted to it yet it didn't kill them in space. I am curious to find out more about the mountain people society. I find the natives a bit boring , I wish they were a bit more Mad Max ;-)

The explanation they gave for the 100 not being affected by ground radiation is that in space they were exposed to high levels of solar radiation and over generations they built up the same type of immunity as the Grounders. I don't know that solar radiation is the same kind as atomic bombs but I'll roll with it.

I don't know why their ratings are so low. The first 2 episodes this season were up against the World Series in some places and apparently it didn't air in a lot of places because of the baseball. I don't get how some of the other awful shows on the CW get better ratings or full 22 episode pick ups. Not that I think The 100 needs 22 episodes but it's just odd that they put so much faith in mediocre shows that get mauled by critics and then treat shows like this with caution.

That said I think The CW are doing a decent job with trying to verify their programming a bit. A few years ago The 100 would never have gotten the green light and if it did the cast would all be 6ft models and the entire story would revolve around who's hooking up with who.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 07-11-2014 1:30pm

To be fair to The CW, they're more than likely to renew The 100 for a third season than any other network, despite low ratings.

I'm sure by now they realise the show has a solid fanbase and they tend to be pretty good at keeping fan-heavy shows. I'm sure The 100 may be doing better On Demand and on the likes of Netflix and what not (which I imagine CW takes into account). But sure, only time will tell. Hopefully it gets picked up again...

Agent Coulson · 07-11-2014 1:37pm

I agree the CW are probably one of the few channels that takes into account all ratings not just the Nielsen's.

I see them as a channel that looks at everything from there own website views, Hulu etc etc ( All Legal streaming).

They have a good history of sticking with shows with low tv ratings.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 07-11-2014 1:41pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

That said I think The CW are doing a decent job with trying to verify their programming a bit. A few years ago The 100 would never have gotten the green light and if it did the cast would all be 6ft models and the entire story would revolve around who's hooking up with who.

Vary. Not verify.

gazzer · 07-11-2014 2:20pm

Agent Coulson wrote: »

I agree the CW are probably one of the few channels that takes into account all ratings not just the Nielsen's.

I see them as a channel that looks at everything from there own website views, Hulu etc etc ( All Legal streaming).

They have a good history of sticking with shows with low tv ratings.

That is very true. They gave Reign a second season and the ratings for that near the end of Season one were very low.

The 100 is one of the few shows I cant wait to see as soon as it has aired stateside.

CastorTroy · 07-11-2014 2:33pm

Beauty and the Beast was another surprise renewal.
And Nikita is a show that demonstrates rewarding the fanbase.

And one thing I really like about them is if they do cancel a series that has lasted 2 or more seasons, they seem to give them time to wrap things up, either through plenty of notice of cancellation or, in the case of Nikita, a short final season.

NUTZZ · 12-11-2014 2:56am

Promo for Wednesdays episode, 2x04 - Many Happy Returns

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqX8qrBuEIg

Agent Coulson · 13-11-2014 11:49pm

Another great episode and the new world and the people on it is growing some new people in this episode.

Also a great fight between Clarke and Anya.

NUTZZ · 14-11-2014 1:01am

Agent Coulson wrote: »

Another great episode and the new world and the people on it is growing some new people in this episode.

Also a great fight between Clarke and Anya.

I really liked this episode too, the pacing was perfect. I even found Jaha's story very intriguing.

Also we can now categorically say that every young person who falls from the sky on this show is ridiculously good looking...the new girl (Mel) on the cliff.

CastorTroy · 14-11-2014 1:41am

Nooooo, they killed the red shirt. To be honest they deserved to lose him. I'm no expert but I'm pretty sure you're not meant to just rely on a tree stump when you have 3 other people there. What I was wondering though was how did Mel get down there and how long was she there, since the ark crashed at least a few days ago. But great scene then when they lowered Bellamy down, with Murphy not thinking of himself for even a minute either when the rope broke or arrows were landing beside him.

Then for the Jaha bit, I guess we'll get to see the City of Light. Interesting they're aware of Sky People.

Clarke and Anya scenes were pretty cool as well, right down to Clarke earning respect after a great fight. So was annoyed at Anya being shot. I'd say that one who shot down the balloon will stage a coup soon enough.

Easy to know it's filmed in Canada. Who else from Continuum will we see?

And was just thinking with them letting Jaha live, that they need to kill one of the main cast off this season, just to raise the stakes.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 14-11-2014 2:44am

CastorTroy wrote: »

And was just thinking with them letting Jaha live, that they need to kill one of the main cast off this season, just to raise the stakes.

Probably Monty... That lad may as well have expendable written across his face.

NUTZZ · 14-11-2014 2:49am

Also Starring LeVar Burton wrote: »

Probably Monty... That lad may as well have expendable written across his face.

You beat me to it, I think Monty or Jasper will bite the dust at Mount Weather.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 14-11-2014 6:24pm

Gutted Anya got shot

I saw it coming once the blonde bitch shot down the balloon and ordered the guards to shoot on sight but I was still hoping they'd just accidentally shoot Clarke instead

The adults just can't stop messing things up!

Also, how hilarious that Finn has lost the plot completely, leaving people for dead, shooting people, thrown his moral compass out the window entirely and he could have just stayed at home with his feet up because Clarke found her own way back

Loved seeing Bellamy and Octavia reunited too. I love their relationship.

I still could not give a teeny tiny rats behind about Jaha.

CastorTroy · 14-11-2014 6:28pm

It's scary that Murphy is going with Finn and Murphy is the sensible one

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 14-11-2014 6:29pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

It's scary that Murphy is going with Finn and Murphy is the sensible one

Exactly. Maybe that's why Bellamy gave him the gun, to protect himself from Finn

GottaGetGatt · 14-11-2014 9:01pm

After all that they just kill off Anya and she was an interesting character, sigh

Melodeon · 14-11-2014 10:10pm

Did anyone else notice that the red rope was still attached to the stump AFTER the knot came loose and yer man fell while the rest of them scrambled to grab it as it disappeared over the edge?:

NUTZZ · 14-11-2014 10:52pm

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

After all that they just kill off Anya and she was an interesting character, sigh

Is she dead though? We could have a bit of a Nidge on our hands here. It seems like wasted time to develop her character this far and then kill her off so early.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 14-11-2014 11:05pm

NUTZZ wrote: »

Is she dead though? We could have a bit of a Nidge on our hands here. It seems like wasted time to develop her character this far and then kill her off so early.

I think she is dead. They needed to kill someone important off and people had grown to like her. It puts a massive spanner in any negotiations between the Grounders and the Ark people too.

Although if they could save Raven from a bullet in her spine a few days after she was shot and she's up walking around again you never know.

GottaGetGatt · 20-11-2014 1:25am

i see the actress who played Anya popped up in Agents Of Shield this week.

CastorTroy · 20-11-2014 1:41am

Yep, she's another Whedon actress and she was in Dollhouse

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 20-11-2014 1:43am

Also in Neighbours

GottaGetGatt · 20-11-2014 1:54am

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Also in Neighbours

How long ago was that?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 20-11-2014 1:57am

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

How long ago was that?

I think it was in or around the same time that Eliza Taylor was on it. Maybe 6 or 7 years ago?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 20-11-2014 3:32pm

Good grief! What have they done to Finn?

Granted he's more interesting now than he was before but DAMN! No hug for you, Finn.

PhiloCypher · 20-11-2014 4:31pm

It can be hard not to get whiplash at the speed this show and it's characters evolve. It's not unlike it's stable mate Vampire diaries in that regard. The status quo is forever shifting. Bellamy has gone and done a Damon and gone from someone whose selfishness in not wanting to be held to account for shooting jaha(albeit at the behest of someone else) saw him sabotaging bracelets and radios directly leading to dozens sacrificing themselves on the ark to preserve air, to now become the character most people root for(including me) to end up with Clarke. Murphy has gone from sociopath to voice of reason and Fin from dreamboat to basket case.

And yet I still really like the show.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 20-11-2014 5:50pm

Bellamy's behaviour, while still quiet bad, was always driven by his need to protect Octavia. We even got a flashback episode to drive that point home. He made bad decisions, his decisions led to others dying, but there was a clear reason for his choices.
We're supposed to believe Finn's reason is his love for Clarke but it just doesn't seem well enough developed for me to buy he's changed so much in the space of a few days because of it. I mean, he loved her last season too and yet had to be constantly convinced that the only way to defend themselves was to kill. Now he's massacring whole villages.

How much time passed between the season finale and the season opener? The only thing I can think of was that Finn was with that Tristian guy for a while and was maybe tortured a bit, enough to make him openly hostile to all the grounders. Maybe they'll explain it more in upcoming episodes.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 21-11-2014 3:54pm

That was bad ass.

I though Finn was one of the weakest characters in season one, so I'm glad they've turned it around and made it interesing. Also Clarke's mum, what a total biatch telling Clarke and Bellamy they can't leave camp - they know so much about the world and were leaders of The 100, they're not just some stupid kids.

Loving the pacing this season so far, moving along nicely, and glad that Jasper and Monty are now relevant again. And people are being pulled back together again in general, which is nice.

Micky Dolenz · 26-11-2014 5:11pm

*Puts hands over eyes and thumbs in ears*

La la la la la la la la la...........

Trying not to read this thread. Am up to e11. Not a bad show, just doing enough to keep me interested.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 04-12-2014 5:36pm

Wow, so much happening so quickly now. Every episode is like it's own feature film. This week's was brilliant.

CastorTroy · 05-12-2014 1:01am

You think the girl(not Mya) working with Monty and Jasper needs a red shirt? Think this is the first time I've seen her

Patty O Furniture · 05-12-2014 4:00am

CastorTroy wrote: »

You think the girl(not Mya) working with Monty and Jasper needs a red shirt? Think this is the first time I've seen her

Isn't she the one that likes Monty & she's helping them as she's afraid they'll get the same fate as the grounders?

This show is getting better & not afraid to kill anyone off either.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 05-12-2014 2:52pm

I think the girl helping Monty and Jasper was in it last season, briefly, but she was there.

I keep rooting for them to kill Jaha but they won't do it!!

It bothers me that Clarke is the only one who seems bothered by what Finn did, like properly bothered. They're all saying he's changed or whatever but Clarke is the only one who seems to be reacting to the fact he massacred a village.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 11-12-2014 2:48pm

Just let them have Finn for crying out loud!

And give them Jaha while you're at it.

Also Starring LeVar Burton · 11-12-2014 4:13pm

I reckon a main character may be offed next week as part of the mid-season finale.

Jaha is now playing the role of antagonist, so he is probably safe for the time being. Too obvious for it to be Finn, so my money would be on Jasper or Monty.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 11-12-2014 5:51pm

I hope it is Finn. He's so annoying. I still love this show but it really feels like they've no idea what they're doing with Finn. The fact that nobody seems all that bothered by what he did either is annoying. Clarke telling him it's not his fault the Grounders are attacking when they've made it quite clear that is exactly why they're attacking is beyond annoying. I know lots of people have made mistakes and been given second chances, Murphy is getting a 3rd chance even though he killed his own people but even he still gets some attitude for his behaviour. Finn hasn't even been locked up. They locked Jaha up for God's sake but Finn is allowed to do whatever he wants? It really weakens everyone's characters too that they don't seem to have a real problem with what Finn did.

CastorTroy · 12-12-2014 12:40am

I just realised in this episode that Jasper is missing his goggles. Clearly I'm very observant.

So the plan now is just to capture all the reapers and restrain them until the drug leaves their system while keeping them alive? Sounds easy enough.

Wonder how they'll explain Harper's disappearance. She escaped? Guess she needed that red shirt after all.

I'm thinking something will happen with either the other guy with Jasper and Monty, or his dad.

And I agree with giving them Finn. Didn't watch the trailer for next week. Mid season finale?

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 12-12-2014 12:46am

CastorTroy wrote: »

I just realised in this episode that Jasper is missing his goggles. Clearly I'm very observant.

So the plan now is just to capture all the reapers and restrain them until the drug leaves their system while keeping them alive? Sounds easy enough.

And I agree with giving them Finn. Didn't watch the trailer for next week. Mid season finale?

I feel like we saw Jasper's goggles somewhere in the opening episodes of this season? Did we? At the drop ship maybe? Or a Grounder had them?

No way they'll have enough drugs to keep everyone alive that they're trying to un-reaper. I'm sure they can get a few back but they'll have to do it one by one surely.

Yes next week in mid season finale.

CastorTroy · 12-12-2014 12:49am

And again they're not shying away from the pretty gruesome stuff. Not the girl being irradiated, but the one having her bones drilled into.

Going by the CW midseason finales so far with Flash and Arrow, I'm looking forward to this one, apart from the fact we'll then have to wait for a resolution.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 18-12-2014 2:25pm

Well now...

I think it was inevitable that Finn was done for. I just wish they hadn't pi$$ed around so much with everyone trying to save him. It made no sense that they were willing to sacrifice themselves and everyone in the camp just to save him. I also hated the scenes where they were passing around the blame for what he did. Clarke blaming Murphy, Murphy blaming Clarke, it seemed like Finn was blaming Clarke too or at least trying to make it sound like what he did was out of love for her. Clarke was even trying to blame herself at the end. I'm not having that!!

Interesting how in the end it was once again Clarke who had to make the tough decisions. Abby and co were just wasting time talking about things and were pretty much just allowing things to play out. As much as I hate Jaha he has at least shown he's capable of making tough decisions. If they'd gone with the offer of trying him themselves they could have at the very least allowed him to die in a less horrible way, an injection maybe... instead they've forced Clarke into a situation where she had to do that while they can all pat themselves on the back and say well, at least we tried!

The whole Finn plot this season has been ridiculous. It came out of nowhere and although ultimately I'm happy with how it ended and I look forward to seeing the ramifications of his death play out for the rest of this season I still think it was just a poorly written plot, at least as far as Finn himself was concerned.

GottaGetGatt · 18-12-2014 8:02pm

The way they changed Jaha's character into an antagonist in the space of an episode is just retarded.

As you said, the whole Finn storyline was just farcical,christ the man killed 18 people,children and elderly among them. The fact that they were willing to protect him and put the lives of the whole camp in complete jeopardy,the mind just boggles.

And then Raven tries and put the blame on Murphy hoping that the grounders have memories of gold fish and just forget that it was Finn who killed the villagers.wtf writers?I suppose she will hate Clarke forever:rolleyes:

I feel bad for Lincoln, he seems to be the only one who is talking sense and he was practically a zombie for the previous episodes.The only character im liking atm is the grounders leader.

Rest in peace Finn, the man who couldn't grow facial hair for all the months he was on earth.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 18-12-2014 8:05pm

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

The way they changed Jaha's character into an antagonist in the space of an episode is just retarded.

Not really. He has always been in charge and perfectly happy being in charge. Then he arrives back to the camp and just assumes he's going to pick up where he left off only to find that someone else is in charge and that the general public aren't in any hurry to have him back in charge.

GottaGetGatt · 18-12-2014 8:11pm

TICKLE_ME_ELMO wrote: »

Not really. He has always been in charge and perfectly happy being in charge. Then he arrives back to the camp and just assumes he's going to pick up where he left off only to find that someone else is in charge and that the general public aren't in any hurry to have him back in charge.

Which happened in the space of an episode.

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 18-12-2014 8:24pm

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

Which happened in the space of an episode.

Yes, but it's believable.

Sudden Valley · 18-12-2014 8:24pm

GottaGetGatt wrote: »

The way they changed Jaha's character into an antagonist in the space of an episode is just retarded.

As you said, the whole Finn storyline was just farcical,christ the man killed 18 people,children and elderly among them. The fact that they were willing to protect him and put the lives of the whole camp in complete jeopardy,the mind just boggles.

And then Raven tries and put the blame on Murphy hoping that the grounders have memories of gold fish and just forget that it was Finn who killed the villagers.wtf writers?I suppose she will hate Clarke forever:rolleyes:

I feel bad for Lincoln, he seems to be the only one who is talking sense and he was practically a zombie for the previous episodes.The only character im liking atm is the grounders leader.

Rest in peace Finn, the man who couldn't grow facial hair for all the months he was on earth.

I fell sorry for Finn, and his facial hair problems. But seriously they were kids forced in a war scenario and nearly died multiple times. I think its not that great a leap to be desensitized to violence against their mortal enemy. Life in the ark seemed very cheap too, not a place to be kind.

Also Jaha in season 1 was mostly definitely a dick, he was only halfway decent for one or two episodes.

CastorTroy · 18-12-2014 11:37pm

The one I feel sorry for is Murphy. Clarke blamed him for not stopping Finn, instead of blaming Finn. Raven tries to give him to the grounders because he's a murderer, even though the only one I remember him killing was the crazy girl who killed Jaha's son. True he shot Raven, but that was actually self preservation.

Surprised that with this being a mid season finale that they didn't show anything with the 47 46

TICKLE_ME_ELMO · 18-12-2014 11:44pm

CastorTroy wrote: »

The one I feel sorry for is Murphy. Clarke blamed him for not stopping Finn, instead of blaming Finn. Raven tries to give him to the grounders because he's a murderer, even though the only one I remember him killing was the crazy girl who killed Jaha's son. True he shot Raven, but that was actually self preservation.

Surprised that with this being a mid season finale that they didn't show anything with the 47 46

He murdered the guys that tried to hang him in the episode where they all had the bleeding sickness. He also tried to hang Bellamy, as well as shooting Raven. It seems like they're more annoyed with him because it was their own people. I don't particularly feel sorry for him but at the same time they're a bunch of hypocrites when it comes to him.

I wasn't surprised that they focused on Camp Jaha. Jumping between different stories kills momentum. I'd say the second half of the season will be devoted to Mt. Weather anyway.

JP Liz V1 · 18-12-2014 11:46pm

Bellamy and Clarke shippers should he happy now

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