Whats your setup?

kooga · 25-09-2014 3:08pm

just a small bit of revision to my set up

triax td78 with 28,23,19(quad) and 13

Sky mini dish with quad lnb for astra 28

attic bedroom astra 28 and 19 on two separate feeds as the french tnt sat box won't support diseqc plus manhatten freesat box

main bedroom triax combo box with 28 and 19

sitting room sky hd box (for setanta sub) with astra 28 and 19 (had a spare 19 feed so put it in there)

Tv Room astra 28 for Humax hdr 1010s
astra 28,23, 19 and hotbird 13 for a fta box

all rooms have saorview as well.

Selhurst · 03-02-2015 1:04pm

Hello everyone
Finally Got rid of sky
I bought a Ferguson 252 a year a go but only
setting it up now.
Thinking of one of thies motorised dishes
to pick up some football matches
are they hard to set up
and size dish should I get
any information
would be much appreciated
Thanks

iba · 03-02-2015 1:07pm

Selhurst wrote: »

Hello everyone
Finally Got rid of sky
I bought a Ferguson 252 a year a go but only
setting it up now.
Thinking of one of thies motorised dishes
to pick up some football matches
are they hard to set up
and size dish should I get
any information
would be much appreciated
Thanks

I think that one of the first things you should decide is from which country you wish to receive football transmissions from. For example, if you want it from Poland on Hotbird a small dish is sufficient.

Selhurst · 03-02-2015 1:18pm

Thanks Iba
for your quick response.
What would you recommend
My House is a two storey and the dish is tricky to get at.

iba · 03-02-2015 2:58pm

Selhurst wrote: »

Thanks Iba
for your quick response.
What would you recommend
My House is a two storey and the dish is tricky to get at.

I do not know where you can subscribe to football via sat. nowadays apart from Sky Sports and from Canal+(I think that is what it is called in Poland) others more knowledgeable may have alternatives.

You do not have to put a dish on your house necessarily - you can put it on a back or side wall. Even if you put in on your house, it does not necessarily have to be on the roof. Just in line of sight of the sat. you want to pick up.

Selhurst · 03-02-2015 3:31pm

iba wrote: »

I do not know where you can subscribe to football via sat. nowadays apart from Sky Sports and from Canal+(I think that is what it is called in Poland) others more knowledgeable may have alternatives.

You do not have to put a dish on your house necessarily - you can put it on a back or side wall. Even if you put in on your house, it does not necessarily have to be on the roof. Just in line of sight of the sat. you want to pick up.

Thanks for all your help Iba
It's definitely food for thought.

amdaley28 · 04-02-2015 12:58pm

Your dish doesn't need to be on top of the house.

I have two sky dishes & a 1.2mt motorised dish none of which are more than a few feets off the ground.
What is needed is a clear view of the satellites you wish to receive signals from.
In Ireland we are north of the equator so our dishes are pointing in a southern direction.

Selhurst · 04-02-2015 3:10pm

amdaley28 wrote: »

Your dish doesn't need to be on top of the house.

I have two sky dishes & a 1.2mt motorised dish none of which are more than a few feets off the ground.
What is needed is a clear view of the satellites you wish to receive signals from.
In Ireland we are north of the equator so our dishes are pointing in a southern direction.

Thanks for that amdaley28
That's very good information.

iba · 04-02-2015 4:49pm

@Selhurst look at post 232, my dishes are only a few feet off the ground.

Selhurst · 04-02-2015 5:03pm

iba wrote: »

@Selhurst look at post 232, my dishes are only a few feet off the ground.

Thanks Iba that's some set up
and I see what you mean.
I suppose I should have read all the thread.
Thanks all your help.

Mallagio · 16-02-2015 2:55pm

28e Fixed for 3 receivers in house.

1.1m Triax motorized 15w-42e

Technomate Nano OE HD Linux Main - 2 Dreambox 800 HD - A serious amount of door stoppers amongst cams, blank cards & programmers

10 years into "Foreign", pretty much since I went into a pub and asked the barman "How the hell do you get those ART Channels for the footy mate?"

Zardoz · 30-03-2015 5:18pm

My T90 dish was damaged in the winds yesterday.

I was moving it from a spot in the garden onto the back wall of the house and had it lying in a seemingly sheltered part of the garden overnight whilst the job was in progress.
The wind just lifted it and blew it about ten yards across the garden.:mad:

I've since bent it back into shape but there are still a few dents on it .
There might be a future for me as a panel beater yet .

iba · 30-03-2015 5:24pm

Zardoz wrote: »

My T90 dish was damaged in the winds yesterday.

I was moving it from a spot in the garden onto the back wall of the house and had it lying in a seemingly sheltered part of the garden overnight whilst the job was in progress.
The wind just lifted it and blew it about ten yards across the garden.:mad:

I've since bent it back into shape but there are still a few dents on it .
There might be a future for me as a panel beater yet .

OMG that did take some bashing. Hope your panel beating skills are top notch and you can still get it to work.

RimaNTSS · 30-03-2015 5:45pm

2 Zardoz: Sorry to see your T90 in such a bad shape. I would say, you will not be able to get main mirror back to original shape, and you will remember it was bended so badly each time you look at it or simply watch TV. . Somebody is selling his T90 for only 25EUR and still some bargaining possible, but that is in The Netherlands.
Sorry again, bad day for you. :mad:

RimaNTSS · 30-03-2015 5:59pm

Couple of days ago I got 2 SMW OA 1400 and 2 SMW OA 1600, those are very robust and, I think if any of it roll over garden several time, it would not suffer. Seems that those antennas will be installed not so soon, but I already like them a lot (especially those -multifocus ones).

Zardoz · 30-03-2015 6:47pm

RimaNTSS wrote: »

2 Zardoz: Sorry to see your T90 in such a bad shape. I would say, you will not be able to get main mirror back to original shape, and you will remember it was bended so badly each time you look at it or simply watch TV. . Somebody is selling his T90 for only 25EUR and still some bargaining possible, but that is in The Netherlands.
Sorry again, bad day for you. :mad:

Thanks Rimants and Iba,I hope I will still be able to use it ,the damage is only in the top right corner of the dish.

I have it looking like this now after a little bit of bending by hand.
Will hopefully improve it more tomorrow evening.

RimaNTSS · 30-03-2015 6:50pm

Ok, ok, Shane.... it is not bended anymore

Good luck with it's installation. Hopefully you will find all signals strong enough.

iba · 30-03-2015 7:09pm

Zardoz wrote: »

Thanks Rimants and Iba,I hope I will still be able to use it ,the damage is only in the top right corner of the dish.

I have it looking like this now after a little bit of bending by hand.
Will hopefully improve it more tomorrow evening.

Great work

white_westie · 30-03-2015 7:14pm

Well done....hope it works okay for you.
You must have been sick to see it roll so easily, given how heavy it is.
WW

Zardoz · 30-03-2015 11:15pm

Thanks guys

Hopefully I will be able to get it as smooth as possible tomorrow,that part of the dish is actually quite malleable with ones hands .
I didnt need to resort to the metal hammer like Father Ted on the Cortina

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mdwAkWvWMw

You must have been sick to see it roll so easily, given how heavy it is.

Couldnt believe it had moved so far,it was a North West wind so it caught me out .

Couple of days ago I got 2 SMW OA 1400 and 2 SMW OA 1600, those are very robust and, I think if any of it roll over garden several time, it would not suffer. Seems that those antennas will be installed not so soon, but I already like them a lot (especially those -multifocus ones).

They look pretty sturdy to say the least .

skallywag · 02-04-2015 10:51am

1m Gibertini on 28E, 80cm Triax with 19.2E on prime focus & 13E offset, feeding 2 x Dm800s via Spaun4-1.

kooga · 02-04-2015 12:40pm

skallywag wrote: »

1m Gibertini on 28E, 80cm Triax with 19.2E on prime focus & 13E offset, feeding 2 x Dm800s via Spaun4-1.

where are you 1m for astra 28.2 is interesting

skallywag · 02-04-2015 12:44pm

kooga wrote: »

where are you 1m for astra 28.2 is interesting

Near Lake of Constance.

The 1m just about holds onto the 28E UK-spot beam transponders when they start to weaken off in the evenings.

Greenman · 19-05-2015 8:54am

skallywag wrote: »

1m Gibertini on 28E, 80cm Triax with 19.2E on prime focus & 13E offset, feeding 2 x Dm800s via Spaun4-1.

Photos please. :-)

snaps · 25-05-2015 8:31am

skallywag wrote: »

Near Lake of Constance.

The 1m just about holds onto the 28E UK-spot beam transponders when they start to weaken off in the evenings.

Very impressive for 28 east. Since the change over, even here in Poland/Czech Rep and Slovakia 2m dish is required and for some a 2.5m for good reception.

On my 1.1m gibertini here in Southern Poland I get about 2db on the Freesat channels, considering 7 west I get about 3.5-4.5db! Still not strong enough for any kind of lock though as I find 4.9db is the minimum for lock.

UrbanFret · 10-06-2015 12:03am

Anyone got a multi lnb set up in the cavan area ?

UrbanFret · 10-06-2015 7:52pm

Ok can anyone post a "shopping list" of what I might need to get up and running with a wavefrontier t90 type set up. Thanks.;)

RimaNTSS · 10-06-2015 8:04pm

UrbanFret wrote: »

Ok can anyone post a "shopping list" of what I might need to get up and running with a wavefrontier t90 type set up.

- Wall mount or ground stand (depending on your needs).
- T90
- 4 LNBs
- 1 x Diseqc 1/4
- 10 F-connectors
- Cable (enough meters to run from antenna to the TV)
- SAT receiver
- TV set.
- patience

UrbanFret · 10-06-2015 8:25pm

RimaNTSS wrote: »

- Wall mount or ground stand (depending on your needs). X
- T90 X
- 4 LNBs X What type should I buy?
- 1 x Diseqc 1/4 X What type again?
- 10 F-connectors ✅
- Cable (enough meters to run from antenna to the TV) ✅
- SAT receiver ✅
- TV set. ✅
- patience

X
So I'm about half ready. Any links to where I might source the required Equipment?

RimaNTSS · 10-06-2015 8:44pm

Diseqc.... any which has 4 LNB connections Protocol 1.0 of 2.0. Your choice.
LNBs: also any, universal
In one shop when I asked question: Do you have LNBs? They answered with another question: What kind of LNBs you prefer? Black or white?

Means, any single LNB will be OK, they all more or less same quality nowadays and signals from satellites (not exotic ones) are so strong. It is possible to find LNBs for about 3-4 EUR each, but also possible to find for 15 EUR each. I would say, even used ones would be OK.

T90.... ask in some local shop, and, if they have one they will probably have also the mount.

UrbanFret · 10-06-2015 8:50pm

RimaNTSS wrote: »

Diseqc.... any which has 4 LNB connections Protocol 1.0 of 2.0. Your choice.
LNBs: also any, universal
In one shop when I asked question: Do you have LNBs? They answered with another question: What kind of LNBs you prefer? Black or white? Means, any single LNB will be OK, they all more or less same quality nowadays and signals from satellites (not exotic ones) are so strong. It is possible to find LNBs for about 3-4 EUR each, but also possible to find for 15 EUR each. I would say, even used ones would be OK.

T90.... ask in some local shop, and, if they have one they will probably have also the mount.

Is this dish adequate would you say?

http://www.satkontor.de/wavefield-t90-toroidal-sat-antenne-90cm-mit-doppelreflektor-anthrazit.html

RimaNTSS · 10-06-2015 9:07pm

I think price is adequate, but will probably cost some $$ to ship. Secondly, on their site on the pictures they placed T55 (I circled it red) instead of T90. That could be their mistake, but anyway, be careful to not purchase smaller version of toroidal dish.

UrbanFret · 12-06-2015 11:22am

Would the wall beside the window be suitable for a t90 dish and in relation to the sky dish above what general direction would it be pointing?

RimaNTSS · 12-06-2015 9:44pm

Is that your Sky dish? If you place T90 approximately like I circled red than you would be able to get all sats you need. And also Sky dish could be removed as well as T90 will give you much better signal from 28,2*E.
Hopefully you do not have lots of sliding snow from the roof.

UrbanFret · 12-06-2015 10:20pm

RimaNTSS wrote: »

Is that your Sky dish? If you place T90 approximately like I circled red than you would be able to get all sats you need. And also Sky dish could be removed as well as T90 will give you much better signal from 28,2*E.
Hopefully you do not have lots of sliding snow from the roof.

Yes that's the sky dish. Would the t90 we pointing in a similar direction? one thing that confuses me is the sky dish is pointed at 28.2 E yet to me it is pointing towards the west.

RimaNTSS · 12-06-2015 10:39pm

I would say, your T90 in the position I previously circled red, will be looking more East (some 15*), more parallel to the wall. And than you will be able to get, for example 28,2*E (for Sky)- 23,5*E- 19,2*E- 16*E - 13*E- 9*E- 4,8*E- 0,8*W. So, potentially 8 satellites, you chose any 4 of them to start with.

Zardoz · 12-06-2015 10:53pm

RimaNTSS wrote: »

I would say, your T90 in the position I previously circled red, will be looking more East (some 15*), more parallel to the wall. And than you will be able to get, for example 28,2*E (for Sky)- 23,5*E- 19,2*E- 16*E - 13*E- 9*E- 4,8*E- 0,8*W. So, potentially 8 satellites, you chose any 4 of them to start with.

In that position with the red circle the T90 will be pointing more perpendicular to the wall surely Rimants ?
That wall looks like its facing due East
If the T90 goes on that wall it might need the pole to be a good bit offset from the wall so it can face south .

one thing that confuses me is the sky dish is pointed at 28.2 E yet to me it is pointing towards the west.

Its pointing 28 degrees east of due south ,well it should be anyway

RimaNTSS · 12-06-2015 10:57pm

I still think that 16*E direction (central satellite) is perpendicular to the wall, so antenna than will be parallel.
That would be good for UrbanFret to check his location here dishpointer.com

UrbanFret · 12-06-2015 11:23pm

Zardoz wrote: »

In that position with the red circle the T90 will be pointing more perpendicular to the wall surely Rimants ?
That wall looks like its facing due East
If the T90 goes on that wall it might need the pole to be a good bit offset from the wall so it can face south .

Its pointing 28 degrees east of due south ,well it should be anyway

I never was much good at directions. That wall faces east as that's where the sun rises. Would the t90 be pointing more to the left or right of where it is now. If someone in cavan or any adjoining county had a set up i could have a look at it would make things so much easier as I can pick up things much easier by looking at them rather than been told what to do.

RimaNTSS · 12-06-2015 11:26pm

UrbanFret wrote: »

That wall faces east as that's where the sun rises.

Could you show your house here dishpointer.com ?

Zardoz · 12-06-2015 11:31pm

UrbanFret wrote: »

I never was much good at directions. That wall faces east as that's where the sun rises. Would the t90 be pointing more to the left or right of where it is now. If someone in cavan or any adjoining county had a set up i could have a look at it would make things so much easier as I can pick up things much easier by looking at them rather than been told what to do.

It will be pointing more right ,as you look out from behind the dish,more left as you look face on.
15 degrees more left ,if you centre it on 13e to receive 28e to 1w as Rimants suggested.

RimaNTSS · 12-06-2015 11:36pm

UrbanFret! Show your house on dishpointer.com or googlemaps! make a screenshot and post here.

UrbanFret · 12-06-2015 11:49pm

RimaNTSS · 12-06-2015 11:58pm

Oooo, Google did not get you yet! Not good, but also not so bad. Enough theory, just get your T90, hang it in the wall approximately where I have circled red previously, and you will easily get all desired satellites.
As Zardoz said

Zardoz wrote: »

It will be pointing more right .
15 degrees more right

T90 will be turned about 15* more right (if you look to the front of the dish), that mean T90 will be almost parallel to the wall.

UrbanFret · 13-06-2015 12:04am

RimaNTSS wrote: »

Oooo, Google did not get you yet! Not good, but also not so bad. Enough theory, just get your T90, hang it in the wall approximately where I have circled red previously, and you will easily get all desired satellites.
As Zardoz said
T90 will be turned about 15* more right (if you look to the front of the dish), that mean T90 will be almost parallel to the wall.

Ok mate. It's on it's way, should have it next week. I also ordered 5 of those ultra black lnbs(probably didn't need to go for them) and a wall bracket for the t90. i also have one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/SATlink-WS-6906-Digital-Satellite-Signal/dp/B006JW7FEW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1434150218&sr=8-1&keywords=sat+finder+digital
hopefully that will be a help.;)

Zardoz · 13-06-2015 12:24am

RimaNTSS wrote: »

Oooo, Google did not get you yet! Not good, but also not so bad. Enough theory, just get your T90, hang it in the wall approximately where I have circled red previously, and you will easily get all desired satellites.
As Zardoz said
T90 will be turned about 15* more right (if you look to the front of the dish), that mean T90 will be almost parallel to the wall.

No,looking at the dish face on it will be turned more to the left ,i.e ,more west .
The dish will be perpendicular to the wall not parallel,hence why it will need a large offset bracket.
I had a similar setup before on an Easterly wall .

UrbanFret · 13-06-2015 12:41am

Zardoz wrote: »

No,looking at the dish face on it will be turned more to the left ,i.e ,more west .
The dish will be perpendicular to the wall not parallel,hence why it will need a large offset bracket.
I had a similar setup before on an Easterly wall .

I'm confused now. Will it be turning in the direction of the question mark. This is the bracket i ordered.Will it be suitable? Could i even put the dish on the ground there?http://www.satworld.ie/t90-steel-wall-mount-toroidal-wavefrontier-60mm-diameter.html

Zardoz · 13-06-2015 12:46am

It will look like this if you set it up to cover 1w to 28e

RimaNTSS · 13-06-2015 8:50am

I was probably too tired last night.... Zardoz is 100% right, of course T90 should be turned about 15* right if you look from behind of antenna. So, T90 will be almost perpendicular to the wall. Before fixing bracket to the wall make sure it's central 60mm pole is apart from the wall about 50cm. 50cm should be enough to hold antenna almost perpendicularly to the wall.

UrbanFret · 13-06-2015 11:00am

RimaNTSS wrote: »

I was probably too tired last night.... Zardoz is 100% right, of course T90 should be turned about 15* right if you look from behind of antenna. So, T90 will be almost perpendicular to the wall. Before fixing bracket to the wall make sure it's central 60mm pole is apart from the wall about 50cm. 50cm should be enough to hold antenna almost perpendicularly to the wall.

will that bracket I have purchased give me enough clearance?

Whats your setup?

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