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BIG BROTHER ALERT !!!

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  • #102
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,328 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So we can take it then that you have not read the Lisbon treaty?

    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

    UK Cops to be issued with 20,000 stun guns. These non lethal weapons will be the perfect tool for quelling civil unrest during this upcoming "New World Order"

    If you are business minded, invest in shares from the US manufacturer Tazer INC. as their shares are set to boom as hundreds of police forces from around the globe will follow suit.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7745137.stm

    http://www.tazers.com/
    Stun guns aren't used for civil unrest, they have hoses and tear gas.
    But you're right police should only have lethal firearms or archaic clubs to defend themselves.


  • #103
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    King Mob wrote: »


    Stun guns aren't used for civil unrest, they have hoses and tear gas.
    A cop would use his fist if he had to, ;)


  • #104
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    A cop would use his fist if he had to, ;)

    So would I


  • #105
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,328 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    A cop would use his fist if he had to, ;)

    So then why is it a bad thing to give them something safer, less violent and more effective than a fist?
    Or is it just the usual everything the government does is a conspiracy?


    Any comment on the fact you haven't read the Lisbon treaty?


  • #106
    GhostInTheRuins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭GhostInTheRuins


    King Mob wrote: »
    Any comment on the fact you haven't read the Lisbon treaty?

    Don't even bother, I asked the exact same thing in the lisbon treaty thread. He knows he can't reference any part of it so he'll just ignore you.


  • #107
    Diogenes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    BIG BROTHER ALERT !!!

    UK Cops to be issued with 20,000 stun guns. These non lethal weapons will be the perfect tool for quelling civil unrest during this upcoming "New World Order"

    If you are business minded, invest in shares from the US manufacturer Tazer INC. as their shares are set to boom as hundreds of police forces from around the globe will follow suit.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7745137.stm

    http://www.tazers.com/


    Opphs! Doubts now emerge as to whether this will occur
    it emerged a senior cabinet minister expressed reservations about extending the use of Tasers when working at the Home Office.

    Gosh darn illuminati can't get decent lackies these days.

    And it turns out police unions are opposed to the measure. Eh! Whats that about, you used to get a better class of jackbooted thug in the old days.

    Big Brother marches er, ever backward?


  • #108
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,328 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    GhostInTheRuins wrote: »
    Don't even bother, I asked the exact same thing in the lisbon treaty thread. He knows he can't reference any part of it so he'll just ignore you.
    Gasp and shock!
    You mean he's jumping to conclusions about the Lisbon Treaty without actually trying to understand it?
    Democracy in action!


  • #109
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Diogenes wrote: »
    Opphs!

    Gosh darn illuminati can't get decent lackies these days.

    And it turns out police unions are opposed to the measure. Eh! Whats that about, you used to get a better class of jackbooted thug in the old days.

    Big Brother marches er, ever backward?
    They will get pepper spray instead. :D


  • #110
    Diogenes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    They will get pepper spray instead. :D

    They already have since 2001 :rolleyes:


  • #111
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Diogenes wrote: »
    They already have since 2001 :rolleyes:
    Im slow today. ;)


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  • #112
    Diogenes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Im slow today. ;)

    The forum charter forbids me from making the obvious joke.


  • #113
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    Diogenes wrote: »
    The forum charter forbids me from making the obvious joke.

    It forum charter also forbids posting derogatory and condesending suggestion


    417.gif


  • #114
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    It forum charter also forbids posting derogatory and condesending suggestion


    417.gif

    Is this about you or am I misunderstanding?


  • #115
    Mahatma coat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    no Meglome, this is about Diogeness Takin the piss regards the charter and its position on Personal abuse.

    ie he will probably respond
    " Show me where it says specificaly in the charter that posting cartoons from Fr Ted is against the rules?" or some such sh1te


  • #116
    meglome
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,980 ✭✭✭meglome


    Mahatma coat wrote: »
    no Meglome, this is about Diogeness Takin the piss regards the charter and its position on Personal abuse.

    ie he will probably respond
    " Show me where it says specificaly in the charter that posting cartoons from Fr Ted is against the rules?" or some such sh1te

    I have to be honest I was talking the piss myself. I kinda think that rtdh is is paranoid fantasy land on quite a lot of stuff, actually almost everything. And as far as I recall I posted that specific image first some months ago so I can't really say anything.


  • #117
    Mahatma coat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    yeah I remeber that Meglome, but A the context of the post was different and B I wasnt a Mod


  • #118
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Think you should all get over it, only a poxy cartoon. If you're offended by it you seriously need to look at yourself.


  • #119
    Mahatma coat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    I'm not offended by the Cartoon, I'm ofended by the poster of the cartoons disregard for the Charter and the rules


  • #120
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Mahatma coat wrote: »
    I'm not offended by the Cartoon, I'm ofended by the poster of the cartoons disregard for the Charter and the rules

    You're offended by the disregard for the charter of an online forum? Mustn't take much then.


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  • #121
    Diogenes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Mahatma coat wrote: »
    I'm not offended by the Cartoon, I'm ofended by the poster of the cartoons disregard for the Charter and the rules

    Yet you'll condemn the character of the entire jewish racial group.

    It's irony on a base level but I like.

    Mahatma, you're basically saying that it's acceptable for you to make a derogatory and racist comment about the entire jewish racial group, but it's unacceptable to post a gif that makes a mockery of someone's paradoxical views.

    Look its Irony on a base level but I like it.


  • #122
    Mahatma coat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    well if you put it like that, then yeah thats kinda what I meant, broad sweeping generalisations to underline a POV are not as bad as specific attacks on individual posters


  • #123
    Diogenes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    Mahatma coat wrote: »
    well if you put it like that, then yeah thats kinda what I meant, broad sweeping generalisations to underline a POV are not as bad as specific attacks on individual posters


    Um what, you've claimed every jew you've met is evil?


  • #124
    Mahatma coat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,869 ✭✭✭Mahatma coat


    No I said I Disliked almost all the Israelis I've ever had the misfortune of encountering, as an insight into where my opinion was formed.


  • #125
    WhaLofShi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭WhaLofShi


    Diogenes wrote: »
    Um what, you've claimed every jew you've met is evil?
    No I said I Disliked almost all the Israelis I've ever had the misfortune of encountering, as an insight into where my opinion was formed.

    It should be noted that not all Jews are Israelis.


  • #126
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    BIG BROTHER ALERT !!!

    CCTV Cameras that can predict potential crimes to be rolled out in UK.

    Daily Mail. 28 November 2008.

    CCTV cameras loaded with software alerts authorities Of Non-Crimes… For More Public Harassment. New police tool in preparation for the NWO.

    This is George Orwell 1884 stuff come ALIVE!!!

    These CCTV cams will be rolled out across Europe and the Globe. Eventually the monitoring of these sophisticated devices will be passed over to the foreign authorities of the NEW WORLD ORDER possibly through BRUSSELS which will eventually become the headquarters for European Law and Order reform.

    They will track and watch for any potential suspicious activity such as NWO resistance and unauthorised crowd gathering. (They could be programmed to set off alarm bells if three or more people are gathered in a location).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1089966/Minority-Report-comes-Britain-The-CCTV-spots-crimes-BEFORE-happen.html


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  • #127
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    BIG BROTHER ALERT !!!

    CCTV Cameras that can predict potential crimes to be rolled out in UK.

    Daily Mail. 28 November 2008.

    CCTV cameras loaded with software alerts authorities Of Non-Crimes… For More Public Harassment. New police tool in preparation for the NWO.

    This is George Orwell 1884 stuff come ALIVE!!!

    These CCTV cams will be rolled out across Europe and the Globe. Eventually the monitoring of these sophisticated devices will be passed over to the foreign authorities of the NEW WORLD ORDER possibly through BRUSSELS which will eventually become the headquarters for European Law and Order reform.

    They will track and watch for any potential suspicious activity such as NWO resistance and unauthorised crowd gathering. (They could be programmed to set off alarm bells if three or more people are gathered in a location).

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...RE-happen.html

    Already posted
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055428978

    not sure why you included, you discussed it the other post.


  • #128
    WhaLofShi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 114 ✭✭WhaLofShi


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    BIG BROTHER ALERT !!!

    CCTV Cameras that can predict potential crimes to be rolled out in UK.

    Daily Mail. 28 November 2008.



    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...RE-happen.html

    Link doesn't work


  • #129
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    thecommander wrote: »
    Already posted
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055428978

    not sure why you included, you discussed it the other post.
    I did, so what.


    What the OP of that link you provided did is merely stating a FACT and has posted it inthe wrong forum. I expanded on it to bring it in line with the EU takeover.

    I consider it a part of the Big Brother EU/NWO Conspiracy so I thought it would be appropriate to include it here.
    WhaLofShi wrote: »
    Link doesn't work
    Sorted.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1089966/Minority-Report-comes-Britain-The-CCTV-spots-crimes-BEFORE-happen.html


  • #130
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,328 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Mahatma coat wrote: »
    No I said I Disliked almost all the Israelis I've ever had the misfortune of encountering, as an insight into where my opinion was formed.
    The opinion that every Jew is part of a global conspiracy?

    Because you did present you dislike of Jews as evidence of a cabal between the Jews that run Hollywood.
    Or did I take that the wrong way?


  • #131
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    BIG BROTHER ALERT !!!

    2nd December 2008


    NWO Cyber Police to be inaugurated.

    Big Brother Will Conduct Remote Searches On Your PC

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    The NWO is taking steps into searching out cyber criminals

    Remote searches of suspect computers will form part of an NWO plan to tackle hi-tech crime.

    It will also encourage better sharing of data among member state police forces to track down and prosecute criminals.

    Big Brother will co-ordinate the investigative work and also issue alerts about cyber crime sprees.

    Data share The five-year plan won the backing of the foreign ministers at a meeting which also granted 300,000 euros (£250,000) to create the system to pool crime reports and issue alerts about emerging threats.

    The ministerial meeting also backed the anti-cyber crime strategy that will see the creation of cross-border investigation teams and sanction the use of virtual patrols to police some areas of the net.

    Other “practical measures” include encouraging better sharing of information between police forces in member nations and private companies on investigative methods and trends.

    Forces will also take part in “remote searches” and patrol online to track down criminals.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7758127.stm

    RELATED NEWS.
    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/3059617/Euro-MPs-to-vote-on-anonymous-blog-ban.html

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1069089/Big-brother-track-emails-internet-history-telephone-calls-12billion-government-plan.html


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  • #132
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    BIG BROTHER ALERT !!!

    2nd December 2008


    NWO Cyber Police to be inaugurated.

    Big Brother Will Conduct Remote Searches On Your PC

    I've read over that page, and as per usual it doesn't have any of those details on it. Maybe you posted the wrong link?


  • #133
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,328 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Do you just copy paste articles and replace EU with NWO?

    Couple things you left out:
    "In particular the strategy aims to tackle the trade in images of children being sexually abused. In a statement outlining the strategy the EU claimed "half of all internet crime involves the production, distribution and sale of child pornography".

    "The strategy encourages the much needed operational cooperation and information exchange between the Member States," said EC vice-president Jacques Barrot in a statement.

    "If the strategy is to make the fight against cyber crime more efficient, all stakeholders have to be fully committed to its implementation," he added."
    It should be noted that neither of the other two articles have nothing to do with the first one.

    But tell us, why is increased cooperation between international police forces a bad thing? Especially when some cybercrime like child porn takes place between different countries?


  • #134
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    thecommander wrote: »
    I've read over that page, and as per usual it doesn't have any of those details on it. Maybe you posted the wrong link?
    Mate, I think you are in the wrong forum. :rolleyes:


  • #135
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    The five-year action plan will take steps to combat the growth in cyber theft and the machines used to spread spam and other malicious programs.

    I think this is the bit she's worried about.

    What do you mean when you say suspect computers? Yours for instance?


  • #136
    King Mob
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,328 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Mate, I think you are in the wrong forum. :rolleyes:

    Well that article had no mention of a new police force with special powers being created. So we can only assume you're making it up.


  • #137
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Mate, I think you are in the wrong forum. :rolleyes:

    Explain why.


  • #138
    Run_to_da_hills
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    thecommander wrote: »
    Explain why.

    Because you obviously have not read the opening paragraph of this thread.

    Ill repeat it again..........
    RTTH wrote:
    I have decided that it is about time that CT had a "BIG BROTHER ALERT" !!! thread. Maybe with the possibility of becoming a sticky. There is a need to keep everyone up to date and informed on Big Brother and his cunning tricks from around the globe as we draw closer to 1984.

    The rule of this thread should be that no alert should be posted without the relevant press back up link. "Big Brother" himself is welcome to voice his opinion on the topics.

    To all you smart ar*ses out there, this thread has absolutly nothing got to do with the TV series.


  • #139
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Run_to_da_hills wrote: »
    Because you obviously have not read the opening paragraph of this thread.

    So the formula goes then

    1. Link to news website

    2. Write a commentary that has little or no relevance to what was contained in the link.


  • #140
    Diogenes
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,701 ✭✭✭Diogenes


    RtdH wrote:
    There is a need to keep everyone up to date and informed on Big Brother and his cunning tricks from around the globe as we draw closer to 1984.

    Note to self, 2009 Farside Calender, idle gift for RtdH.


  • #141
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Apart from nothing to do with the TV series, it would appear to have nothing to do with the book either.:pac:


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  • #142
    Sofa_King Good
    Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    studiorat wrote: »
    Apart from nothing to do with the TV series, it would appear to have nothing to do with the book either.:pac:

    Well there are 32 CCTV cameras within a 100 yards of George Orwell's old London Home.


  • #143
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    Yeah, 32 cameras within 200 yards and a population density of nearly 1,000 people in that space...
    In the Shriji grocery store in Canonbury Place, three cameras focus on every person in the shop. Owner Minesh Amin explained: 'They are for our security and safety. Without them, people would steal from the shop. Although this is a nice area, there are always bad people who cause trouble by stealing.'

    Three doors away, in the dry-cleaning shop run by Malik Zafar, are another two CCTV cameras.

    'I need to know who is coming into my shop,' explained Mr Zafar, who spent £400 on his security system.

    privately owned it would seem.
    What exactly is wrong with a shop keeper wanting to secure their premises?
    The RAE report follows a warning by the Government's Information Commissioner Richard Thomas that excessive use of CCTV and other information-gathering was 'creating a climate of suspicion'.

    that's you that is...


  • #144
    Sofa_King Good
    Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    So if you go in to buy a newspaper your every move needs to be recorded on the off chance you might do something doubtful.

    How would you feel if your neighbour was filming into your garden 24 hours a day?


  • #145
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Sofa_King Good wrote: »
    So if you go in to buy a newspaper your every move needs to be recorded on the off chance you might do something doubtful.

    How would you feel if your neighbour was filming into your garden 24 hours a day?

    Chalk and cheese. One is a public area, another is private property, cant compare.


  • #146
    Sofa_King Good
    Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    thecommander wrote: »
    Chalk and cheese. One is a public area, another is private property, cant compare.

    Not Really. Ireland has NO legislation, to the best of my knowledge on these cameras. How there used/who by/what the data is kept for etc. I'm sure somebody will be quick to pick me up on it otherwise.


    Besides, I asked how you'd feel?


  • #147
    thecommander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,537 ✭✭✭thecommander


    Sofa_King Good wrote: »
    Not Really. Ireland has NO legislation, to the best of my knowledge on these cameras. How there used/who by/what the data is kept for etc. I'm sure somebody will be quick to pick me up on it otherwise.


    Besides, I asked how you'd feel?

    I wouldn't be happy with my neighbor filming me, not that I do anything in my garden anyway. There is a Garda camera accross the road from me, that can see my garden and probably my front room if curtains are open. It was installed due to constant vandalism along my road. Since it was put up there has been a huge drop in wing mirrors being kicked off etc. Even when that does happen they usually can catch the people who did it. I do mind a neightbour doing it because its just being nosey, whereas I feel the Garda one has helped my area.

    But to walk down the street and be filmed, or in a store I couldnt care less.


  • #148
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    It's not like they steal your soul or anything. It's a few CCTV cameras in a shop, chances are they haven't had a tape changed in them in years anyway.


  • #149
    Sofa_King Good
    Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    studiorat wrote: »
    Yeah, 32 cameras within 200 yards and a population density of nearly 1,000 people in that space...



    privately owned it would seem.
    What exactly is wrong with a shop keeper wanting to secure their premises?



    that's you that is...

    One or 2 omissions from where you seem to have quoted this from.

    I may be wrong, but here it is: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23391081-
    details/George+Orwell,+Big+Brother+is+watching+your+house/article.doa couple of highlights:

    "Orwell's view of the tree-filled gardens ("CHALK AND CHEESE"??) outside the flat is under 24-hour surveillance from two cameras perched on traffic lights.The flat's rear windows are constantly viewed from two more security cameras outside a conference centre in Canonbury Place."

    Also,
    "This week, the Royal Academy of Engineering (RAE) produced a report highlighting the astonishing numbers of CCTV cameras in the country and warned how such 'Big Brother tactics' could eventually put lives at risk.The RAE report warned any security system was 'vulnerable to abuse, including bribery of staff and computer hackers gaining access to it'. One of the report's authors, Professor Nigel Gilbert, claimed the numbers of CCTV cameras now being used is so vast that further installations should be stopped until the need for them is proven."


  • #150
    Sofa_King Good
    Closed Accounts Posts: 857 ✭✭✭Sofa_King Good


    studiorat wrote: »
    It's not like they steal your soul or anything. It's a few CCTV cameras in a shop, chances are they haven't had a tape changed in them in years anyway.

    Its the unregulated nature I have a problem with; Not people protecting their person/property. Besides I've kinda gone off on one here. Sorry for being off topic.


    I should add to that my taxes being used to monitor me without justification; other than the "what-if?"


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  • #151
    studiorat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭studiorat


    the UK has more cctv than any other country it would seem.

    They are however not all connected together as some would have you believe.:eek:

    I don't think it's possible to go off topic on this thread.


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