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    #1172
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,713 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I'm all for helping those in need, but not if it results in the destruction of western Europe and our people. Look at how the Syrians approach the issue of LGBT rights. It's slightly different to what we're used to. Is this what you want to see in future Ireland?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3244736/ISIS-executes-nine-public-homosexual-including-boy-aged-15.html

    Ever consider that those leaving such countries are doing so to escape such persecution or because they gravitate more towards Western values?

    Plus I really doubt Irish people are going to suddenly go and think killing LGBT is the right way for society to go tbh.

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1173
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,270 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    Is this what you want to see in future Ireland?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3244736/ISIS-executes-nine-public-homosexual-including-boy-aged-15.html

    Absolutely not. No one in future Ireland should have to read Daily Mail articles.


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    #1174
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I'm all for helping those in need, but not if it results in the destruction of western Europe and our people. Look at how the Syrians approach the issue of LGBT rights. It's slightly different to what we're used to. Is this what you want to see in future Ireland?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3244736/ISIS-executes-nine-public-homosexual-including-boy-aged-15.html

    Arent you always telling us that things were better in the old days where homosexual acts were illegal and unwed mothers were sent away?

    The destruction of western europe and its homofacist people sounds like it would be right up your street.


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    #1175
    recedite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,993 ✭✭✭✭recedite


    Whats happening here is the ultra-liberals are compelled to invite in the foreign authoritarians, as a matter of principle.

    The local authoritarians object because the foreign ones are different, and are effectively competitors.

    In the unlikely event that the foreign authoritarians are converted to either of the above groups, then at least one side will end up being happy with the influx.


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    #1176
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,844 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »
    Arent you always telling us that things were better in the old days where homosexual acts were illegal and unwed mothers were sent away?

    The destruction of western europe and its homofacist people sounds like it would be right up your street.

    Sure them females can't be trusted to have a say in the running of a country, they're so illogical.


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    #1177
    Shrap
    Registered Users Posts: 3,163 ✭✭✭Shrap


    Yay! The power came back....fair play to the folks out reconnecting us in that storm. Now, what did I miss?

    frostyjacks wrote: »
    You think our soon-to-be neighbours from the Caliphate will be more accepting of homosexuality than Catholic Ireland is? You will be begging David Quinn et al to come in and save the day.

    Oh.



    Ah Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa......Eheh heh heh. Oh, that's priceless. Heh. Best laugh I had all day, ta.


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    #1178
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Shrap wrote: »
    Ah Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha haaaa......Eheh heh heh. Oh, that's priceless. Heh. Best laugh I had all day, ta.

    Ah come on, we get David in charge of a caliphate and they are guaranteed to lose, he cant win anything political. It is a great idea.


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    #1179
    Orion
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,807 ✭✭✭✭Orion


    Using the Daily Mail to back your point does the opposite.


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    #1180
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I'm all for helping those in need, but not if it results in the destruction of western Europe and our people. Look at how the Syrians approach the issue of LGBT rights. It's slightly different to what we're used to. Is this what you want to see in future Ireland?

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3244736/ISIS-executes-nine-public-homosexual-including-boy-aged-15.html

    Fairly sure the Syrians don't exist on a diet of Irish people.

    It must feel weird trying to complain about people who may hold views on homosexuality similar to your own for having those views. Could cause injury and confusion, that kind of thing.


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    #1181
    frostyjacks
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,951 ✭✭✭frostyjacks


    Nodin wrote: »
    Fairly sure the Syrians don't exist on a diet of Irish people.

    It must feel weird trying to complain about people who may hold views on homosexuality similar to your own for having those views. Could cause injury and confusion, that kind of thing.

    I think the lifestyle is wrong, but I still respect them. I don't think our new arrivals will be quite so tolerant.


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    #1182
    Delirium
    Moderators Posts: 51,713 ✭✭✭✭Delirium


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I think the lifestyle is wrong, but I still respect them. I don't think our new arrivals will be quite so tolerant.

    Yes because the first thing a refugee will do is commit a major crime which risks deportation back to the country they fled. :rolleyes:

    If you can read this, you're too close!



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    #1183
    [Deleted User]
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    'The Syrians' are not ISIS, ISIS are not 'The Syrians'.

    The people observing fastidiously the barbaric tenants of the Qur'An as the 'true' version are duty bound by said book to remain within the Caliphate (ISIS).

    The refugees fleeing these people, are those that refuse to be bound by that barbarism.

    If you have evidence of those fleeing (let's tone it down and simply say 'are clearly in disagreement with') ISIS committing any of the medieval 'punishments' for things that we as a nation are more than comfortable with, then that would be a good place to try to start a comparison. Until that is presented, it's straightforward to see that these two points
    1. that the refugees are in some disagreement with ISIS (and therefore ISIS rules cannot be inferred to be 'refugee' rules)
    2. that those bound by the rules of ISIS and the Caliphate must remain within the Caliphate.

    affect negatively your contention that your ISIS article has anything to do with what anyone wants to see in Future Ireland. Or that by assisting the refugees that we would be in some way moving towards that.


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    #1184
    Bannasidhe
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 19,219 Mod ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    ..... lifestyle is wrong..... still respect ..... tolerant.

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Not fooling anyone


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    #1185
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    I think the lifestyle is wrong, but I still respect them. I don't think our new arrivals will be quite so tolerant.

    At least we have come up with a positive thing about you and gay people. All the new arrivals need to do is not kill gay people and they can be as tolerant as you. Oh and they have to be against freedom of religion as well.

    Could be worse, frosty isn't killing gay people, he tolerates their existence so that's something.

    Frosty is better than ISIS.


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    #1186
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    "Better than ISIS" could be quite the general election slogan.


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    #1187
    Keepan Eye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 83 ✭✭Keepan Eye


    PopePalpatine wrote: »
    Yes, unfortunately.

    Good [...DELETED SOME VERY SILLY TEXT INDEED...]


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    #1188
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Keepan Eye wrote: »
    Good [...]
    Keepan - the charter's here and your card's attached to the right hand end of that last post of yours.

    Any more driveby unpleasantness and a holiday will be forthcoming.


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    #1189
    La Fenetre
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭La Fenetre


    lazygal wrote: »
    "Better than ISIS" could be quite the general election slogan.


    It's perfect for Ireland


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    #1190
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Yes, its that time of year when people try to get money of yez. Iona want cash for their utterly worthwhile agenda and talks by john Bruton (surely a crime against humanity) and Bishop Kevin Doran, archconservative muppet.


    http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/iona.jpg


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    #1191
    The Black Oil
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,224 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    Nodin wrote: »
    http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2015/12/iona.jpg

    'Our most recent paper was a detailed legal analysis by a distinguished barrister outlining the probable effects of redefinition of marriage on our family laws.'

    Still doommongering away, then.

    Moderator: Television, Psychology and Dublin County North.

    CMod: Entertainment



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    #1192
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    "Important work"

    Im not seeing anything remotely important in the list. Its a bunch of people who want to make money but can't make a profit themselves.


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    #1193
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    The Black Oil wrote: »
    Still doommongering away, then.

    Yep. Any day now, Gaymageddon.


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    #1194
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Did they ever release the research they did into the affects of "redefining" marriage? I would imagine it was a bit short.


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    #1195
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    I'm sure small small donations are welcome too. Even if they end up costing Iona money.


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    #1196
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,022 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Nodin wrote: »
    Yes, its that time of year when people try to get money of yez.

    Tis indeed.

    They gave up putting the weekly begging envelope through our door, but we got a special Xmas one the other day and a little calendar thing with a picture of Frankie on it. We shouldn't have taken the vote yes to destruction of family life sticker off the porch door. 4 FSMs on the tree didn't deter them either. We've started getting Barely Alive! again recently too :eek:

    'On-call media team' - boy have they got that. It's like they have a helicopter each hovering over RTE and Newstalk. DQ or Breeeda can descend by zip-line into your studio within ten seconds of getting the call!

    'Make moar stupid videos watched by 400,000 people' - 390,000 of whom were laughing their hole off

    Amazing really how low-ball the requests are, €50 here and €100 there, whatever happened to their rich benefactors? Or maybe all their money is gone on the helicopters...

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #1197
    Fred Swanson
    Closed Accounts Posts: 21,730 ✭✭✭✭Fred Swanson


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    #1198
    Hotblack Desiato
    Registered Users Posts: 34,022 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Has anyone looked into their accounts, ever?

    Charitable status, mind.

    Life ain't always empty.



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    #1199
    PopePalpatine
    Registered Users Posts: 11,844 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    I'd hazard a guess that the "suggested donation" amounts of €50/€100 are thanks to AOH members in the US. Of course, Tom Monaghan will be there to make up any shortfall. :rolleyes:


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    #1200
    Penn
    Registered Users Posts: 33,270 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    'Our most recent paper was a detailed legal analysis by a distinguished barrister outlining the probable effects of redefinition of marriage on our family laws.'

    ...which was thoroughly debunked by a group of about 300 other law professionals as being nonsense, so please donate so we can continue to fund more papers like that.

    WE GOTS TO GETS PAID, YO!


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    #1201
    lazygal
    Registered Users Posts: 12,644 ✭✭✭✭lazygal


    Our task is to keep this basic truth before society in the years to come.

    This was also the main message of the newly installed Bishop of Waterford and Lismore, Alphonsus Cullinan, in his keynote address to the conference.

    He told participants that they and the Church must “continue to advocate for society to recognise that the permanent, fruitful, faithful union of one man and one woman makes a unique contribution to the common good, and so deserves — once again — unique protection and support in law.”

    He said: “This will, in the short term, create more room for social tolerance of this venerable view of marriage, and in the long term, make the day come sooner when, inevitably, this decision will come undone. I know that I as bishop must teach the whole truth about marriage and nothing but the truth.”

    http://www.ionainstitute.com/index.php?id=4198

    Fund them so they can continue whining about the referendum.:rolleyes:


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