American News Media: Independent or Biased?

Jonny7 · 17-04-2014 8:07am

sin_city wrote: »

No, like the militia that pushed back the Feds on the ranch...that type of militia. The one that was Jefferson spoke of and the one that relates to the second amendment of the US constitution. That's what I mean.

I'm not up on the exact wording but I believe the 2nd amendment relates to individuals not militias

The right to bear arms is subject to reasonable limits and the law - e.g. children cannot bear arms, people cannot have anti-aircraft guns on their front lawn and so on

I'm not familiar with that particular case, but a group of people not obeying the law and arming themselves to the teeth when the courts don't rule in their favour is generally illegal in most parts of the world, I presume that includes the US

sin_city · 17-04-2014 12:23pm

Jonny7 wrote: »

I'm not up on the exact wording but I believe the 2nd amendment relates to individuals not militias

The right to bear arms is subject to reasonable limits and the law - e.g. children cannot bear arms, people cannot have anti-aircraft guns on their front lawn and so on

As passed by the Congress and preserved in the National Archives

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

As ratified by the States and authenticated by Thomas Jefferson, then-Secretary of State

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

You're not up on the wording....but what the heck, you'll continue.

The militia is intended to prevent the state from doing things like it did in Nazi Germany(see The 1938 German Weapons Act). You mentioned law. This was law in Germany in 1938. Jews were forbidden from possessing any dangerous weapons, including firearms. I guess the law is the law for people like you.....too bad 6 million jews.

Jonny7 wrote: »

I'm not familiar with that particular case, but a group of people not obeying the law and arming themselves to the teeth when the courts don't rule in their favour is generally illegal in most parts of the world, I presume that includes the US

You're not familiar with the case....but what the heck, you'll continue....love it.

I suggest you learn more about the case....then we can discuss opinions....I wouldn't have a strong opinion on something I know nothing about.

I'd rather you didn't presume and use terms like generally when you are not informed of the details....for me, this is silly

Jonny7 · 17-04-2014 4:49pm

sin_city wrote: »

As passed by the Congress and preserved in the National Archives

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Well it's now seen as the individual's right to bear arms

Again, I'm no expert on the in's and out's, I'm sure someone here knows it much better, but to quote wiki

"The question of a collective right versus an individual right was progressively resolved with the Fifth Circuit ruling in United States v. Emerson (2001), along with the Supreme Court's rulings in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), and McDonald v. Chicago (2010). These rulings upheld the individual rights model when interpreting the Second Amendment. In Heller, the Supreme Court ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual right.[156] Although the Second Amendment is the only Constitutional amendment with a prefatory clause, such constructions were widely used elsewhere.[157]"

I suggest you learn more about the case

Well I've now read about it and it's pretty close to what I presumed. Mr Bundy lost each of the cases and has multiple rulings and huge fines against him

Instead of challenging the law first, he broke the law first, and then repeatedly.. not exactly the best course of action. Now himself and his supporters are heavily armed and refusing to face justice

Doesn't really set a great precedent.. decide the law suddenly doesn't apply, then hide behind a literal interpretation of the 2nd amendment

sin_city · 18-04-2014 3:14am

As I said Jonny...6 million Jews

Amerika · 18-04-2014 4:40pm

Pretty shameful and evidence of media bias IMO when Jay Carney, President Obama’s press secretary acknowledges the toughest interview President Obama got in 2012, when he was running for reelection, came from Jon Stewart of Comedy Central’s The Daily Show.

JAY CARNEY: I remember we had some discussion during 2012 about well, is it appropriate for the president, the sitting president and candidate, to give interviews with Jon Stewart and others. And the answer was yes, again because the young voters we were trying to reach are more likely to watch The Daily Show than some other news shows. But also, I think if you look back at 2012 and the series of interviews the sitting president of the United States gave, probably the toughest interview he had was with Jon Stewart. Probably the most substantive, challenging interview Barack Obama had in the election year was with the anchor of The Daily Show.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/17/carney_the_toughest_interview_obama_did_was_with_jon_stewart.html

Brian? · 18-04-2014 6:56pm

Amerika wrote: »

Pretty shameful and evidence of media bias IMO when Jay Carney, President Obama’s press secretary acknowledges the toughest interview President Obama got in 2012, when he was running for reelection, came from Jon Stewart of Comedy Central’s The Daily Show.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2014/04/17/carney_the_toughest_interview_obama_did_was_with_jon_stewart.html

Exactly how does this display bias?

To me it shows very good campaign management by the Obama camp. They avoided tough interviews. The Romney campaign did the exact same thing.

Brian? · 18-04-2014 6:58pm

sin_city wrote: »

As I said Jonny...6 million Jews

The holocaust happened because private citizens had lost the right to bare arms ?

Amerika · 18-04-2014 8:01pm

Brian? wrote: »

Exactly how does this display bias?

To me it shows very good campaign management by the Obama camp. They avoided tough interviews. The Romney campaign did the exact same thing.

He still had interviews with other media outlets, but only he got softball questions thrown at him with the others. Perhaps we should call it "bias by omission." That has a much more pleasant ring to it, don't you think?

Mjollnir · 18-04-2014 10:35pm

sin_city wrote: »

Cenk Ungar from the Young Turks was getting great ratings on MSNBC but was later let go. According to Ungar, MSNBC President Phil Griffin had called him into his office in April and told him that he had been talking to people in Washington and that they did not like Uygur's tone. His YouTube news channel now has more than 2 BILLION views. So, what you were saying about newsworthiness?

Also, Noam Chomsky highlights the fact that though the massacres that went on in Cambodia and East Timor were very similar, only Cambodia was highlighted in Western Press at the time. Indonesia had been buying large amounts of weapons at the time from the US.
Do you think this was bias? Chomsky doesn’t. I don’t agree with everything he says but I choose Chomsky over you Jonny in this instance.

The Bundy story has more to it than just a rancher. It goes very deep and involves a cover up of senator Harry Reid.
Please look at this video which has nearly 250K views in one day....Don’t you think that this story is newsworthy now?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ&list=UUEHsSWvrGVSIA63OV3J6vhA

If you don’t look at the video, please do not comment.

LOL! No, it simply doesn't involve Harry Reid.

It has to do with a mooching, welfare-cowboy grifter thinking he's owed something, not pay legally mandated fees, thumbing his nose at federal court decisions for over 20 years and 'not recognizing' the US gov't.

Please leave the tinfoil conspiracist nonsense off the forum.

sin_city · 19-04-2014 4:29am

Brian? wrote: »

The holocaust happened because private citizens had lost the right to bare arms ?

I really don't know...Is it easier to kill people that are armed or unarmed?

Why do you think the Nazis created the law to unarm the Jews?

sin_city · 19-04-2014 4:45am

Mjollnir wrote: »

LOL! No, it simply doesn't involve Harry Reid.

It has to do with a mooching, welfare-cowboy grifter thinking he's owed something, not pay legally mandated fees, thumbing his nose at federal court decisions for over 20 years and 'not recognizing' the US gov't.

Please leave the tinfoil conspiracist nonsense off the forum.

You may be right...it turns out its about a tortoise....That's why the Feds threatened to shoot protestors...it's the tortoise...silly me.

Wonder why the BLM removed a webpage which stated:

"Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle"

They removed it from Google's cache also...yeah the tortoise.

Regarding the tinfoil hat

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."
― Socrates

Jonny7 · 19-04-2014 12:01pm

That's why the Feds threatened to shoot protestors

These "protesters"?

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When police officials arrived to seize cattle, these guys forced the officials, at gunpoint to return the cattle

sin_city wrote: »

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."
― Socrates

Not much of a debate, the man is using public land for his own private profit - and ignoring every law and court order in the process

A half million dollar herd of cattle can do serious damage to a local environment that is not designed to support such a foreign animal - likewise local Irish farmers can't decide to start grazing protected geese reserves in Ireland just because one of their ancestors grazed the land long before environmental protection even existed - thats one thing, to not recognise the government, the court process, to personally interpret the law and threaten officers and officials with automatic weapons is quite another

It's a ridiculous case, and he's a lucky man that the local police and officials have been letting him get away with this for almost 20 years

"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions" - Jefferson

Mjollnir · 19-04-2014 3:19pm

sin_city wrote: »

You may be right...it turns out its about a tortoise....That's why the Feds threatened to shoot protestors...it's the tortoise...silly me.

Wonder why the BLM removed a webpage which stated:

"Non-Governmental Organizations have expressed concern that the regional mitigation strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone utilizes Gold Butte as the location for offsite mitigation for impacts from solar development, and that those restoration activities are not durable with the presence of trespass cattle"

They removed it from Google's cache also...yeah the tortoise.

Regarding the tinfoil hat

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."
― Socrates

A. Yes, I am right. And it wasn't about a tortoise, either.
B. What 'debate'? Breathless conspiracy nonsense, easily debunked in 3 minutes on Google doesn't qualify as 'debate'.
C. Slander? LOL! I don't think you understand what that word means.

Black Swan · 19-04-2014 11:03pm

MOD WARNING: These 2 below quotes were not sigs, rather they were parts of the contents of posts, were trollish, and appeared to be condescending personal attacks on another poster.

sin_city wrote: »

“When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser."
― Socrates

Jonny7 wrote: »

"Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against unintelligible propositions" - Jefferson

Jonny7 · 20-04-2014 12:55am

Ah it's not a snipe at SinCity, it's a go at Cliven Bundy in this on-going illegal grazing incident who carries a picture of Jefferson in his top pocket

Ironically the story is a good demonstration of a degree of bias in the US media - conservative outlets are gunning him more as a patriot, whereas outlets and editorials from CNN and the Washington Post see him more as a pariah, openly flouting the law

One thing is for certain, for a small case, it's very well covered, if not overly so

sin_city · 20-04-2014 2:26am

Cliven Bundy is breaking the law right?

Did Rosa Parks also break the law? Does that mean you support racism Jonny?

If Jews carried guns in Germany in 1938 they also broke the law....Do you support the holocaust Jonny?

Corkfeen · 21-04-2014 10:40am

Using public property for his cows to graze on is not in anyway comparable to a state of racism. Rosa Parks is a completely illogical reference point.

Amerika · 21-04-2014 3:34pm

An interesting and unique take on the Bundy ranch situation. So much of the piece makes sense (to me anyway), and I look at the media’s propensity (some would say bias) to continually report in a favorable manner towards green efforts and big government here in the US, as a leading contribution to many things wrong here which are stifling efforts to succeed in so many avenues.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/19/Cliven-Bundy-and-the-Origins-of-the-American-Abundance-Revolution

Brian? · 21-04-2014 3:58pm

Amerika wrote: »

An interesting and unique take on the Bundy ranch situation. So much of the piece makes sense (to me anyway), and I look at the media’s propensity (some would say bias) to continually report in a favorable manner towards green efforts and big government here in the US, as a leading contribution to many things wrong here which are stifling efforts to succeed in so many avenues.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/19/Cliven-Bundy-and-the-Origins-of-the-American-Abundance-Revolution

That article is trash.

Brian? · 21-04-2014 4:01pm

Amerika wrote: »

An interesting and unique take on the Bundy ranch situation. So much of the piece makes sense (to me anyway), and I look at the media’s propensity (some would say bias) to continually report in a favorable manner towards green efforts and big government here in the US, as a leading contribution to many things wrong here which are stifling efforts to succeed in so many avenues.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/19/Cliven-Bundy-and-the-Origins-of-the-American-Abundance-Revolution

I honestly can't believe you posted this. It's so bad it's unreal.

Jonny7 · 21-04-2014 4:23pm

Amerika wrote: »

An interesting and unique take on the Bundy ranch situation. So much of the piece makes sense (to me anyway), and I look at the media’s propensity (some would say bias) to continually report in a favorable manner towards green efforts and big government here in the US, as a leading contribution to many things wrong here which are stifling efforts to succeed in so many avenues.

The article is a great example of bias and spin. A farmer is using public land, land he doesn't own, to make personal profit. And it is damaging the environment, unfettered grazing by herds can cause damage to the topsoil that takes decades or even centuries to repair, ecosystems can be damaged, natural habitats can be destroyed - this is the reason why just about everywhere on the globe has wildlife reserves and protected land - to stop the destruction/misuse/misappropriation of these lands for commercial or personal purposes

Not only that, but this farmer has been through the courts multiple times, in each case ruling against him, for almost 20 years now

Painting it as the "big evil" government is beyond ridiculous, the Bureau of Lands Management is responsible "to sustain the health, diversity and productivity of the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations", they are responsible for almost 250 million acres - aka not for farmers to abuse and to freely graze their herds on because some distant ancestor once did it before environmental or land concerns even existed

He has no case, and this man is extremely lucky the law hasn't come down on him harder after disarming officials at gunpoint

Amerika · 21-04-2014 4:36pm

Brian? wrote: »

That article is trash.

I was led to this entertaining piece from a liberal friend who usually questions if Breitbart is reliable, but in this particular article felt it was pretty good and had found merit in something against his sensibilities. I think it is a unique and thought provoking piece that gives readers some potential outcomes about current events from one point of view, and tackles situations currently being reported by the media (since the Bundy ranch topic has come up in this thread).

Amerika · 21-04-2014 4:44pm

Jonny7 wrote: »

The article is a great example of bias and spin. A farmer is using public land, land he doesn't own, to make personal profit. And it is damaging the environment, unfettered grazing by herds can cause damage to the topsoil that takes decades or even centuries to repair, ecosystems can be damaged, natural habitats can be destroyed - this is the reason why just about everywhere on the globe has wildlife reserves and protected land - to stop the destruction/misuse/misappropriation of these lands for commercial or personal purposes

Not only that, but this farmer has been through the courts multiple times, in each case ruling against him, for almost 20 years now

Painting it as the "big evil" government is beyond ridiculous, the Bureau of Lands Management is responsible "to sustain the health, diversity and productivity of the public lands for the use and enjoyment of present and future generations", they are responsible for almost 250 million acres - aka not for farmers to abuse and to freely graze their herds on because some distant ancestor once did it before environmental or land concerns even existed

He has no case, and this man is extremely lucky the law hasn't come down on him harder after disarming officials at gunpoint

Sounds like you might agree with MSNBC’s take on the situation in this reporting. Personally I agree Bundy should pay some fines, but I also agree with assemblywoman Fiore's reasoning on protesting the situation in this segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrwVDYjlTe4

And funny thing... I hear in the media that the Bundy situation was never about Tortoises according to the BLM.

Looks like the BLM can delete from it’s website, but can’t hide from the Wayback Machine -- the internet webpage archive resource. So why did they need to delete all references to the tortoises one has to ask?
http://web.archive.org/web/20121017191123/http://www.blm.gov/nv/st/en/fo/lvfo/blm_programs/more/trespass_cattle.html

20Cent · 21-04-2014 7:58pm

Amerika wrote: »

An interesting and unique take on the Bundy ranch situation. So much of the piece makes sense (to me anyway), and I look at the media’s propensity (some would say bias) to continually report in a favorable manner towards green efforts and big government here in the US, as a leading contribution to many things wrong here which are stifling efforts to succeed in so many avenues.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/04/19/Cliven-Bundy-and-the-Origins-of-the-American-Abundance-Revolution

There is bias and bold face lying. Briebart is no different than the onion.

Mjollnir · 21-04-2014 8:04pm

Amerika wrote: »

Sounds like you might agree with MSNBC’s take on the situation in this reporting. Personally I agree Bundy should pay some fines, but I also agree with assemblywoman Fiore's reasoning on protesting the situation in this segment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrwVDYjlTe4

LOL! WOW! Really? What 'reasoning', pray tell.

The woman is unhinged to the point of babbling absurdity.

Amerika · 22-04-2014 11:38am

20Cent wrote: »

There is bias and bold face lying. Briebart is no different than the onion.

Well I agree they're biased in their reporting. Just like most other media outlets, and Briebart leans rather strongly to the right. But the rest appears to be just conjecture and innuendo.

eire4 · 24-04-2014 8:10pm

Has anybody watched the AlJazera news channel since it started broadcasting? What are your thoughts?
I have found some of its shows interesting. It seems to have more international news then other news channels in the US.

20Cent · 24-04-2014 8:44pm

Amerika wrote: »

Well I agree they're biased in their reporting. Just like most other media outlets, and Briebart leans rather strongly to the right. But the rest appears to be just conjecture and innuendo.

There's bias and straight out lies. Breitbart made his name from a fake story which he just made up and faked. Most of that site is the same made up "news".

Overheal · 25-04-2014 8:20am

The whole bundy thing is a joke.

The guy waves the Stars and Stripes but doesn't recognize the federal government.

Because he's a rancher he's getting emotional sympathy from the right. Washington enforced tax law himself during the Whiskey Rebellion. Reagan signed the law that imposes fees for grazing cattle on federal land. The same Right Wingers fully supported the government's right to force out protesters from public property at Wall Street.

Also that woman in that youtube video? 4:15.. "lien the property and the cows don't come here with guns" lady, the government spent 20 years doing this that way and it hasn't connected.

I mean a part of me congratulates the ranchers for exercising the 2nd amendment but they are also completely in the wrong.

Amerika · 25-04-2014 2:50pm

Overheal wrote: »

The whole bundy thing is a joke.

The guy waves the Stars and Stripes but doesn't recognize the federal government.

Because he's a rancher he's getting emotional sympathy from the right. Washington enforced tax law himself during the Whiskey Rebellion. Reagan signed the law that imposes fees for grazing cattle on federal land. The same Right Wingers fully supported the government's right to force out protesters from public property at Wall Street.

Also that woman in that youtube video? 4:15.. "lien the property and the cows don't come here with guns" lady, the government spent 20 years doing this that way and it hasn't connected.

I mean a part of me congratulates the ranchers for exercising the 2nd amendment but they are also completely in the wrong.

Yeah the media is now having a grand time with some recent ignorant comments of the crazy rancher. I guess the current situation now complements the mainstream media agenda, and now worth reporting more extensively on that one particular angle.

But not much reporting on the much greater issue that concerns many Americans, which was finally sparked by this guy’s fight against the BLM. That bigger fight was eloquently stated by Dr. Ben Carson: "The massive show of federal force in the Bundy case is frightening because it gives us a brief glimpse of the totalitarian regime that awaits a sleeping populace that does not take seriously its voting responsibilities and places in public office (and returns to public office) people who do not represent traditional American values."

Swan Curry · 25-04-2014 5:45pm

It's pretty entertaining to watch the right-wingers backpedal now that their golden boy's been revealed to be a racist.

Amerika · 25-04-2014 6:33pm

eire4 wrote: »

Has anybody watched the AlJazera news channel since it started broadcasting? What are your thoughts?
I have found some of its shows interesting. It seems to have more international news then other news channels in the US.

Have never bothered to watch it, and apparently just about everyone else in the US hasen't either. Has AlJazera topped more than 13,000 viewers per day yet... in a country with a 317 million population (and lets add another 30-50 million illegal immigrants just for good measure)?

Jonny7 · 25-04-2014 7:00pm

Amerika wrote: »

Have never bothered to watch it, and apparently just about everyone else in the US hasen't either. Has AlJazera topped more than 13,000 viewers per day yet... in a country with a 317 million population (and lets add another 30-50 million illegal immigrants just for good measure)?

Did you just go there.. holy..

Anyway Al Jazeera had a very bad rep during the Iraq war - Bush and co weren't too keen on them and they have had little or no penetration to the States (I'd say they were patriotically blocked on more than a few occasions)

Since then they've done a full circle and have been recently accused by critics of being pro-US, or pro-Western at the very least.. bizarre really

They are a controversial station, but they are good because they really get into the thick of things, especially during the Arab spring

Corkfeen · 25-04-2014 7:05pm

Yep while they have their flaws,they're not actually that bad a news station. A low viewer base isn't any reflection upon quality tbh.

Amerika · 25-04-2014 7:28pm

Jonny7 wrote: »

They are a controversial station, but they are good because they really get into the thick of things, especially during the Arab spring

Yeah they sure got into the thick of things... like being pro Muslim Brotherhood.

Amerika · 25-04-2014 7:32pm

Corkfeen wrote: »

A low viewer base isn't any reflection upon quality tbh.

And sometimes it is.

But 13,000 viewers per day? I think the Jolly Joe Timmer Show gets more viewers than them.

Jonny7 · 25-04-2014 8:19pm

Amerika wrote: »

And sometimes it is.

But 13,000 viewers per day? I think the Jolly Joe Timmer Show gets more viewers than them.

Somehow I don't think the Jolly Joe Timmer show reaches over 250 million households internationally

They've been equally unpopular with unpleasant regimes the world over - Gadaffi, Assad, the Bush admin.. they must be doing something right

Amerika · 25-04-2014 8:58pm

Jonny7 wrote: »

Somehow I don't think the Jolly Joe Timmer show reaches over 250 million households internationally

True, but this topic relates to the US media bias, and therefore news in the US, so what AJ does internationally doesn't really count.

An aside: Interesting, I watch numerous news channels, read quite a bit of news, yet the only place I saw reported that Iran was given a UN appointment to the Commission on the Status of Women, which would give the nation influence over global women's rights, was on Fox News and Briebart. Perhaps I just missed it elsewhere.

eire4 · 25-04-2014 10:00pm

Corkfeen wrote: »

Yep while they have their flaws,they're not actually that bad a news station. A low viewer base isn't any reflection upon quality tbh.

Agreed. They do some interesting documentary type features as well as more regular news channel type shows.

eire4 · 25-04-2014 10:02pm

Amerika wrote: »

Yeah they sure got into the thick of things... like being pro Muslim Brotherhood.

How do you know? In an earlier post you said you have never watched the channel.

eire4 · 25-04-2014 10:19pm

Swan Curry wrote: »

It's pretty entertaining to watch the right-wingers backpedal now that their golden boy's been revealed to be a racist.

What surprises me is that some pretty high profile Republicans and their media supporters really embraced this guy. I mean if they really paid attention to what he has been saying the fact that he is a racist should not come as a surprise.

What I find interesting in terms of the broader picture is how Bundy was been used as another prop to suggest the government is bad and the source of our problems. Sure because Comcast, Exon Mobil, Morgan Stanley, Bank of America etc have all shown themselves to be such good citizens and so much better at running things then the federal government.

Amerika · 25-04-2014 10:30pm

eire4 wrote: »

How do you know? In an earlier post you said you have never watched the channel.

The Arab Spring started in 2010. AJ didn’t acquire Current TV from Al Gore until 2013, so I couldn’t have possibly seen it here. But I also noted that I view and read a lot of news. Do you think it may have been reported elsewhere?

eire4 · 25-04-2014 11:11pm

Amerika wrote: »

The Arab Spring started in 2010. AJ didn’t acquire Current TV from Al Gore until 2013, so I couldn’t have possibly seen it here. But I also noted that I view and read a lot of news. Do you think it may have been reported elsewhere?

So what your saying is you think Al Jazera is pro Muslin Brotherhood because another news outlet said so given that you have never watched Al Jazera itself.

sin_city · 26-04-2014 7:48am

@Amerika

No matter what you link to or what evidence you provide there will mainly be responses such as..

"There's bias and lying there"
"what a joke"
"That article is trash"
"I am right"
"I honestly can't believe you posted this. It's so bad it's unreal."

Don't expect counter evidence to what you post....just strong statement without any back up.

Point here, don't bother posting links....I actually thought some people in here were wind up merchants...shocked to believe they are for real.

Brian? · 26-04-2014 9:01am

sin_city wrote: »

@Amerika

No matter what you link to or what evidence you provide there will mainly be responses such as..

"There's bias and lying there"
"what a joke"
"That article is trash"
"I am right"
"I honestly can't believe you posted this. It's so bad it's unreal."

All perfectly reasonable responses to the nonsense article linked. It was a piece of trash. If he wanted serious responses he should have linked something worth responding to.

Don't expect counter evidence to what you post....just strong statement without any back up.

Point here, don't bother posting links....I actually thought some people in here were wind up merchants...shocked to believe they are for real.

The irony in this is hilarious.

Brian? · 26-04-2014 9:03am

Amerika wrote: »

I was led to this entertaining piece from a liberal friend who usually questions if Breitbart is reliable, but in this particular article felt it was pretty good and had found merit in something against his sensibilities. I think it is a unique and thought provoking piece that gives readers some potential outcomes about current events from one point of view, and tackles situations currently being reported by the media (since the Bundy ranch topic has come up in this thread).

I don't see how anyone with any intelligence can take this "Breitbart" seriously.

Amerika · 26-04-2014 5:54pm

eire4 wrote: »

So what your saying is you think Al Jazera is pro Muslin Brotherhood because another news outlet said so given that you have never watched Al Jazera itself.

Yup. The fact that twenty-two journalists who worked for al jazeera quit in protest after being told by their bosses to support Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, kinda supports the reports. In addition other reports showing connections, including Egyptian prosecutors charging 20 al jazeera journalists with belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood lead credence to the reports.

Or are all news reports to be discounted because they don't come from al jazeera?

Amerika · 26-04-2014 5:56pm

Brian? wrote: »

I don't see how anyone with any intelligence can take this "Breitbart" seriously.

So the reports in Briebart about Iran given a UN appointment to the Commission on the Status of Women are wrong?

Brian? · 26-04-2014 6:11pm

Amerika wrote: »

So the reports in Briebart about Iran given a UN appointment to the Commission on the Status of Women are wrong?

I have no idea. Why would I spend any time on a site that publishes trash like the one you linked earlier.

Mjollnir · 26-04-2014 11:15pm

Brian? wrote: »

I don't see how anyone with any intelligence can take this "Breitbart" seriously.

No one w/any intelligence actually can.

American News Media: Independent or Biased?

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