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Guide to Premiership Football on satellite

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  • #652
    Newtown90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭Newtown90


    Please Note Due To Recent Events Concerning Tring Cards In The UK, This Card Will No Longer Be Sold On This Site Until Further Notice AS Of: 24/03/11. No Sales, No Refreshes Of Cards Until The Law Is Clearer, We Would Not Advise Any Clients New Or Old To Purchase Tring Cards From Anywhere, Until The Situation Is Resolved

    Yup interesting to see that alright!

    Darkman was the main dealer in the UK too wasn't he?

    Wonder was it a call from Tring in Albania or was in authorities...


  • #653
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,626 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Glenviewjf wrote: »
    Yup interesting to see that alright!

    Darkman was the main dealer in the UK too wasn't he?

    Wonder was it a call from Tring in Albania or was in authorities...

    Since sky lost the case against that bar owner they are probably cracking down on cards outside the EU


  • #654
    theblueirish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭theblueirish


    Glenviewjf wrote: »
    Wonder was it a call from Tring in Albania or was in authorities...


    Thats the story I heard about three hours after he was raided.


  • #655
    Robxxx7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    Glenviewjf wrote: »
    Yup interesting to see that alright!

    Darkman was the main dealer in the UK too wasn't he?

    Wonder was it a call from Tring in Albania or was in authorities...

    Also the official sole importer of the VU DUO , wonder what happens once stocks run low


  • #656
    Newtown90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭Newtown90


    Robxxx7 wrote: »
    Also the official sole importer of the VU DUO , wonder what happens once stocks run low

    Didn't know that...

    Plenty other stores have them in the UK so wouldn't worry too much about it!..


  • #657
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Yeah, I bought my Vu+ Duo from a different etailer, but the box itself had an Alsat sticker on it.


  • #658
    sob1467
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭sob1467



    Please Note Due To Recent Events Concerning Tring Cards In The UK, This Card Will No Longer Be Sold On This Site Until Further Notice AS Of: 24/03/11. No Sales, No Refreshes Of Cards Until The Law Is Clearer, We Would Not Advise Any Clients New Or Old To Purchase Tring Cards From Anywhere, Until The Situation Is Resolved

    The very same message is also up on the marconi digital site. As regards tring they still seem to have the 3PM matches. Here is a list that I saw of another forum of the matches that they are showing in April.a2rvcx.jpg


  • #659
    Pal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,115 ✭✭✭Pal


    Still plenty to watch with softcam.


  • #660
    Robxxx7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    I wonder what shop this was related to :rolleyes:

    http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/brent&harrow/NEWS-pros.htm#satellite1000


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  • #661
    Newtown90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭Newtown90


    Robxxx7 wrote: »
    I wonder what shop this was related to :rolleyes:

    http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/brent&harrow/NEWS-pros.htm#satellite1000

    Damaged in the fire no doubt! ;):rolleyes: lol..


  • #662
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,626 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Robxxx7 wrote: »
    I wonder what shop this was related to :rolleyes:

    http://www.tradingstandards.gov.uk/brent&harrow/NEWS-pros.htm#satellite1000

    hmm interesting

    I wonder has this been posted on alsat and what was the response ?

    Probably deleted


  • #663
    theblueirish
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 488 ✭✭theblueirish


    It was posted on his site, lasted less than 2 mins and the user got banned.

    I would think if you took out the people that are only on that site for the gift there would be nobody left but mods.


  • #664
    Robxxx7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    theblueirish wrote: »
    It was posted on his site, lasted less than 2 mins and the user got banned.

    I would think if you took out the people that are only on that site for the gift there would be nobody left but mods.

    and then they will probably start banning themselves then :D


  • #665
    byte
    Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,127 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    Would I be right in thinking that by "illegal receiver" they're referring to Spider-box?


  • #666
    Robxxx7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭Robxxx7


    byte wrote: »
    Would I be right in thinking that by "illegal receiver" they're referring to Spider-box?
    I'm assuming so, but for it to be illegal it would have to have the 'software' already on the box that can be used to view tv illegally. Otherwise, like most satellite receivers they are just provided with FTA software only.


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  • #667
    Ronan|Raven
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,147 ✭✭✭Ronan|Raven


    Can always fall back on the amazing spiderbox with "free gift" I wonder how the providers and the relevant authorities are looking on at the free gift....
    :)


  • #668
    Newtown90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭Newtown90


    Be interesting if there is any channels that will show the EPL now that the "Gift" is making a come back!...


  • #669
    luis suarez
    Registered Users Posts: 117 ✭✭luis suarez


    Hi i posted a thread on here yesterday and got a reply to this thread but don't understand what you guys are talking about as i'm not well up on this satellite stuff can somebody please reply to this thread and tell me where i can buy this satellite please. http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056257023


  • #670
    Oat23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,364 ✭✭✭✭Oat23


    No English on Sky DE's EPL matches today. Either a technical problem or they've dropped it too.


  • #671
    thomasking22008
    Registered Users Posts: 142 ✭✭thomasking22008


    only top 4 club showing live on sky de liverpool arsenal manchester united and chelsea


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  • #672
    Doodee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,420 ✭✭✭Doodee


    Just been thinking about next Season (2011/2012), was wondering if I should stick with Cyfra+ & Al Jazeera, or would Tring be a better option?


  • #673
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    I will be sticking with Cyfra and Al Jazeera anyway.


  • #674
    glic83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭glic83


    Doodee wrote: »
    Just been thinking about next Season (2011/2012), was wondering if I should stick with Cyfra+ & Al Jazeera, or would Tring be a better option?

    Picture quality on tring is horrible imo anyway,id stick with what you have


  • #675
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    glic83 wrote: »
    Picture quality on tring is horrible imo anyway,id stick with what you have
    Tring are supposed to be getting some HD channels but when that will happen is anyones guess.

    Its a bit early to be deciding on next seasons subs ,alot can happen over the summer.
    I'd hold off on any decisions until the start of August.


  • #676
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,626 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    im not sure is this true but canal plus are suppose to be buying Tring


  • #677
    Newtown90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭Newtown90


    Headshot wrote: »
    im not sure is this true but canal plus are suppose to be buying Tring

    Where'd you hear that rumour lad??


  • #678
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,626 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Glenviewjf wrote: »
    Where'd you hear that rumour lad??

    alsat


  • #679
    Newtown90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭Newtown90


    wow - it seems canal plus are buying tring - before 2012 and the new hd channles will now not start until october - when they get their 2nd transponder!

    Cheers :D

    Wonder is it true though!

    Might actually pump some money into them if they do!


  • #680
    glic83
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,519 ✭✭✭glic83


    Glenviewjf wrote: »
    Cheers :D

    Wonder is it true though!

    Might actually pump some money into them if they do!

    Might improve the pic quality at least


  • #681
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    glic83 wrote: »
    Might improve the pic quality at least
    Eutelsat W3C is due for launch in July so that should solve alot of the problems on 16e .
    Its set to replace the 3 satellites currently up there W2M,Sesat and Eurobird 16A.
    This will mean alot more transponders and higher power,a 60-70cm dish should suffice for Ireland as opposed to the 1-1.2m currently needed for some of the weaker transponders on 16e.
    Hopefully W3C makes its position in orbit unlike W3B which went awol :D


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  • #682
    azzeretti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Eutelsat W3C is due for launch in July so that should solve alot of the problems on 16e .
    Its set to replace the 3 satellites currently up there W2M,Sesat and Eurobird 16A.
    This will mean alot more transponders and higher power,a 60-70cm dish should suffice for Ireland as opposed to the 1-1.2m currently needed for some of the weaker transponders on 16e.
    Hopefully W3C makes its position in orbit unlike W3B which went awol :D

    I just can't see this being the case. If anything I suspect the new bird will bring tighter beams over these countries. I guess that is why Tring got the EPL. The launch failed last year but I reckon they committed to broadcasting only within their territory when the new bird is up,. I do hope I am wrong though.


  • #683
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    azzeretti wrote: »
    I just can't see this being the case. If anything I suspect the new bird will bring tighter beams over these countries. I guess that is why Tring got the EPL. The launch failed last year but I reckon they committed to broadcasting only within their territory when the new bird is up,. I do hope I am wrong though.
    You are wrong :D
    The proposed beams for the ill fated W3B,I think W3C will be the same
    http://www.satbeams.com/satellites?norad=37206
    Very strong beam covering central Europe.


  • #684
    radiofoot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 170 ✭✭radiofoot


    Happy days!

    Does this really mean that Tring will be available with a 60cm dish?


  • #685
    sob1467
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 792 ✭✭✭sob1467


    radiofoot wrote: »
    Happy days!

    Does this really mean that Tring will be available with a 60cm dish?

    I very much doubt that the Premier League and Sky will allow a broadcaster that broadcasts all the 3pms live on a Saturday to be receivable in the UK and Ireland with a 60cm dish. It will probably be a tight beam.


  • #686
    azzeretti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    Zardoz wrote: »
    You are wrong :D
    The proposed beams for the ill fated W3B,I think W3C will be the same
    http://www.satbeams.com/satellites?norad=37206
    Very strong beam covering central Europe.

    Hummmm...."Predicted" is a vital word on that page. I just can't the PL allowing 3pm games in the UK so easily. In fact, I know they won't!!


  • #687
    Johnmb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    azzeretti wrote: »
    Hummmm...."Predicted" is a vital word on that page. I just can't the PL allowing 3pm games in the UK so easily. In fact, I know they won't!!
    They have absolutely no say in where the beams from a satellite will go. If they aren't happy with where Tring can be picked up, then they just won't renew Tring's contract.


  • #688
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    Johnmb wrote: »
    They have absolutely no say in where the beams from a satellite will go. If they aren't happy with where Tring can be picked up, then they just won't renew Tring's contract.
    Exactly .
    Sky and the FA may be powerful but to think that they would be allowed to dictate to Eutelsat is preposterous and laughable.


  • #689
    azzeretti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    Johnmb wrote: »
    They have absolutely no say in where the beams from a satellite will go. If they aren't happy with where Tring can be picked up, then they just won't renew Tring's contract.

    I wasn't for a second trying to suggest that the PL have any rights over where a channel is broadcast. But I am certain they will just cancel the contract, as opposed to not renew it, if the channel is beamed into the UK with ease. It is not unprecedented and has happened before.

    Like I said, I really hope I am wrong as I would take Tring in HD over the multi cards I have at the moment. I just can't see it happening!


  • #690
    azzeretti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Exactly .
    Sky and the FA may be powerful but to think that they would be allowed to dictate to Eutelsat is preposterous and laughable.

    I agree. Although I don't see where anyone suggested that the Premier League (It's not the FA) or SKY (what would Sky have to do with - they just bid for PL rights????) would be allowed to do it??:confused::confused:


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  • #691
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    azzeretti wrote: »
    I agree. Although I don't see where anyone suggested that the Premier League (It's not the FA) or SKY (what would Sky have to do with - they just bid for PL rights????) would be allowed to do it??:confused::confused:
    BSkyB are the biggest paymasters of the Premier League ,they have massive influence and power .
    It is Sky exerting pressure to crack down on foreign tv right holders .
    BSKY have a cartel on commercial customers in the UK and Ireland and can basically charge what they like.
    Its in their best interest to maintain this situation which is threatened by the tv without frontiers directive and the upcoming Murphy European ruling.
    They most certainly tell the Premier League what to do .


  • #692
    azzeretti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    Zardoz wrote: »
    BSkyB are the biggest paymasters of the Premier League ,they have massive influence and power .
    It is Sky exerting pressure to crack down on foreign tv right holders .
    BSKY have a cartel on commercial customers in the UK and Ireland and can basically charge what they like.
    Its in their best interest to maintain this situation which is threatened by the tv without frontiers directive and the upcoming Murphy European ruling.
    They most certainly tell the Premier League what to do .

    That's marvelous.

    Still, like I said. I don't see where anyone said that the PL would have a say on where the beams go?

    The reason you outline above is the very reason why I think Tring will be forced to tight-beam their transmissions or risk loosing the rights.


  • #693
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    azzeretti wrote: »

    Still, like I said. I don't see where anyone said that the PL would have a say on where the beams go?
    You said
    Hummmm...."Predicted" is a vital word on that page. I just can't the PL allowing 3pm games in the UK so easily. In fact, I know they won't!!
    By mentioning "Predicted" you were directly referring to the footprint of the satellite
    The reason you outline above is the very reason why I think Tring will be forced to tight-beam their transmissions or risk loosing the rights.
    And how exactly will they tight beam the signal ?
    Will Eutelsat create a specific footprint just for Tring ? Have you any idea how expensive and difficult that is ?

    Its in Eutelsats best interests to have as large a footprint as possible and the W3C satellite has huge footprints.
    The "Predicted" footprint will not be influenced by the FA.

    As you rightly say the FA will more than likely withdraw Trings rights if its easily receivable in thew UK on a 60cm dish.
    Tring are paying buttons for the rights as Albania is one of the poorest countries in Europe .


  • #694
    Johnmb
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭Johnmb


    azzeretti wrote: »
    That's marvelous.

    Still, like I said. I don't see where anyone said that the PL would have a say on where the beams go?

    The reason you outline above is the very reason why I think Tring will be forced to tight-beam their transmissions or risk loosing the rights.
    Tring won't have much more say in the beam transmissions of the satellite than the PL has. They lease space, they are nowhere near important enough to be able to dictate specifications to the satellite owners.


  • #695
    azzeretti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,477 ✭✭✭azzeretti


    And how exactly will they tight beam the signal ?
    Will Eutelsat create a specific footprint just for Tring ? Have you any idea how expensive and difficult that is ?

    Jaysus - this is getting needlessly aggressive!

    Anyway, it's not difficult at all, depending on the downlink Tring request or are assigned to. Providers can and do and have requested transponder leases based on footprint.

    Anyhoo - like I keep saying, I really, really hope I am wrong. We can sh1te on here all year but we're never going to know until the satellite goes live. By the way, I was highlighting the word PREDICTED because that is all it is. Nobody, not me or you, knows the true footprint and until we do nobody has an argument. All I was doing doing was giving my predication, which you seemed to jump down my throat about yet someone else's predication is OK? Weird.


  • #696
    Zardoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,884 ✭✭✭Zardoz


    azzeretti wrote: »
    Jaysus - this is getting needlessly aggressive!

    All I was doing doing was giving my predication, which you seemed to jump down my throat about yet someone else's predication is OK? Weird.
    I dont mean to be aggressive,sorry if I came across in that manner,I have enjoyed reading your posts over the years .
    I will say no more on the matter,we will wait until July when W3C launches and the football rights are finalised as its all speculation at the moment.


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  • #697
    Minstrel27
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,818 ✭✭✭Minstrel27


    What has that link got to do with receiving the Premier League via satellite?


  • #698
    Newtown90
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭Newtown90


    adilali99 wrote: »
    Ok so as the new season draws closer everyday we have newbies joining and looking for a new way to watch the English Premier League on foreign satellite.. Live Football Matches

    First post in the Foreign Satellite Section and its about internet streams, nothing to do with it at all :rolleyes:...

    On a different note!!

    Got my 1meter dish up with a black inverto lnb, can't wait for the footie to start :D:D


  • #699
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54,626 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Glenviewjf wrote: »
    First post in the Foreign Satellite Section and its about internet streams, nothing to do with it at all :rolleyes:...

    On a different note!!

    Got my 1meter dish up with a black inverto lnb, can't wait for the footie to start :D:D

    that's what im using at the moment, pretty happy with it


  • #700
    Hibrasil
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 392 ✭✭Hibrasil


    Zardoz wrote: »
    Eutelsat W3C is due for launch in July so that should solve a lot of the problems on 16e .

    Just checked http://www.eutelsat.com/satellites/upcoming-launches.html

    W3C     - is scheduled for launch in third quarter 2011. It will be equipped with 56 transponders..... 56 Ku & 3 Ka transponders.
    W3C will be located at 16 degrees East, where it will continue to support the development of digital TV in Central and Eastern Europe and French-speaking Indian Ocean Islands, as well as open new resources for data services in Africa. :confused:


  • #701
    givecredit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,654 ✭✭✭givecredit


    Tring Sports 2,3 and 4 now available on Tring transponder (11282) Not transmitting anything at present. Worringly only one audio stream at present


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