Cheltenham Festival 2015

pugw · 28-02-2015 10:01pm

posturingpat wrote: »

Apparently Geraghty's booked for the ride in the Rsa so that would suggest it's the plan but maybe they've a good amateur provisionally booked for the 4 miler too and will decide a day or 2 beforehand. Fat lot of use i am to you really

http://www.rte.ie/sport/racing/uk/2015/0228/683539-barry-geraghty-to-partner-the-young-master-in-rsa/

sdoc13 · 28-02-2015 10:24pm

pugw wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/sport/racing/uk/2015/0228/683539-barry-geraghty-to-partner-the-young-master-in-rsa/

Delighted, one less decent horse for Very Wood to beat i the 4 miler

Shemale · 28-02-2015 10:40pm

Gringo180 wrote: »

Wish they would ever hurry up and refund my MOT bet :rolleyes:

Bet 365 have only ever refunded the non runners on the day, very frustrating.

jimjamcos · 28-02-2015 10:59pm

The horse who looks value to me in the 4miler is Vroum Vroum Mag @ 16/1 NRNB. I know she may not turn up, is unproven over the trip and on better ground but she's been mighty impressive since coming over from France. She looks a serious talent, is rated around 143 despite never being extended and would be getting 7lbs from the boys. Despite what Willie's saying about the 'lazy' Don Poli being more suited to the 4miler, he's clearly just attempting to run a classier type there for Paddy to ride/win, no other reason. Paddy even hinted on the Final Furlong podcast at very beginning of season that he'd be trying his best to get DP (or Clondaw Court) in 4miler and Willies reaction to him winning on Back In Focus couple of years back showed what it meant to both. For that reason I think they'll be keen to run something better than Perfect Gentlemen and Ricci is quoted as saying VVM's festival target 'will depend what Don Poli does, Patrick would love to give her a spin I'd imagine, don't think the trip would be a problem' last week on ATR. If turning up, she'll be half her current price.

mountai · 28-02-2015 11:26pm

Last time I backed a 33/1 shot (and strongly tipped it on this site ) was Solwhit in the World hurdle. Now that PP are money back on non runners , I'm having a right good cut at Lite Duties in the Albert Bartlett. Mr Byrnes knows what it takes to win this race and I"ll be taking a chance on it.

andyman · 01-03-2015 4:10am

Just cleaned up this thread after yesterday evenings shenanigans.

sting60 banned until the start of the 2015/16 NH season. Let's give it a rest now lads and win some money!

Thank you again to those who brought posts to my attention

Denman2008 · 01-03-2015 1:50pm

Betfair doing 9/1 on Annie Power and Paint the Clouds. Not the biggest enhancement double pays about 17/2 with Paddy Power but I know a few of you could be interested

dickenson famous5 · 01-03-2015 2:27pm

Not one to take a short price about wherever she runs in a wide open world hurdle if the horse was 100per cent would win but the decision to go mares race tells she may not be in top condition wont have a penny on her dont get burned is my motto

ShaneU · 01-03-2015 2:43pm

Faugheen, Douvan, Annie Power, Un De Sceaux & Silvianaco Conti 68/1 :cool:

jimjamcos · 01-03-2015 2:52pm

dickenson famous5 wrote: »

Not one to take a short price about wherever she runs in a wide open world hurdle if the horse was 100per cent would win but the decision to go mares race tells she may not be in top condition wont have a penny on her dont get burned is my motto

I understand your caution but honestly think its misplaced. Annie Power was never injured, she had a pre-stress fracture and the decision to rest her for a month was purely a precaution. Wouldn't worry about her not going to WH either, would be shocked if it wasn't always the plan to farm the Mares race with her for the next 5 years, particularly now its a Gr1. Willie and Ruby in particular are consistent in wanting as sure a Cheltenham winner
as possible regardless of the race prestige. She's miles ahead of the likely field, Quinn's decent mare is out and her only serious rival is a stalemate who she's well ahead of while 2m4 is probably her most suitable trip. She's an absolute certainty, if turning up, in my book and anything around 4/5 would be value on the day. "I don't think there's a mare that can beat her off levels. I just think she's a real dinger" - Ruby in Today's Racing Post.

mulbot · 01-03-2015 6:20pm

dickenson famous5 wrote: »

Not one to take a short price about wherever she runs in a wide open world hurdle if the horse was 100per cent would win but the decision to go mares race tells she may not be in top condition wont have a penny on her dont get burned is my motto

didn't ricci already say last week she just lacked the match fitness to run in the world hurdle?, hence goin to the mares with her,

Apollo_Creed · 01-03-2015 6:23pm

Gwencily berbas now nearly 100% likely to go to the Fred Winter, I really liked him the last day and off 139, 16/1 is surely a price that will drop. Anyone any thoughts apart from the race being a lottery!!!!

dickenson famous5 · 01-03-2015 6:39pm

All will be revealed shortly, stopped training her for a month who knows if the real annie power turns up only willie

Gringo180 · 01-03-2015 10:36pm

ShaneU wrote: »

Faugheen, Douvan, Annie Power, Un De Sceaux & Silvianaco Conti 68/1 :cool:

If it was only that simple.

Shemale · 01-03-2015 11:00pm

It's an odd move not rerouting Annie to the World, in receipt of weight she has the beating of all save for maybe Rock on Ruby. With Annie in the World, Glens would probably win the Mares and thats two grade 1s for Mullins and Walsh.

Shemale · 01-03-2015 11:01pm

ShaneU wrote: »

Faugheen, Douvan, Annie Power, Un De Sceaux & Silvianaco Conti 68/1 :cool:

Without Conti it's probably 5/1

jimjamcos · 02-03-2015 12:07am

Shemale wrote: »

It's an odd move not rerouting Annie to the World, in receipt of weight she has the beating of all save for maybe Rock on Ruby. With Annie in the World, Glens would probably win the Mares and thats two grade 1s for Mullins and Walsh.

Yes probably but Glens will be retired at end of this season most likely while Annie will be around for years injury permitting. They want a Quevega like yearly banker and it'll be her.

Shemale · 02-03-2015 12:12am

jimjamcos wrote: »

Yes probably but Glens will be retired at end of this season most likely while Annie will be around for years injury permitting. They want a Quevega like yearly banker and it'll be her.

I hope you are wrong, backed Annie for World and Glens for Mare when More of That came out.

Oscars Well. · 02-03-2015 12:14am

It's hardly odd considering it'll be her first run of the season and being a big chasing type she's probably hard enough to get fully fit

jimjamcos · 02-03-2015 12:15am

Shemale wrote: »

I hope you are wrong, backed Annie for World and Glens for Mare when More of That came out.

It's all about Ruby. He wants her in Mares so that's where she goes. He's already talking about the big 4 on day one, not even contemplating WH

jimjamcos · 02-03-2015 12:25am

For all of us on the Rossom Paint The Clouds bandwagon, Warren Greatrex is at the Dunraven Preview Night tonight with Jonathan Mullin tweeting: Paint The Clouds in super form. "I think he might be better than a Hunter Chaser"

Harry Angstrom · 02-03-2015 1:27am

Shemale wrote: »

It's an odd move not rerouting Annie to the World, in receipt of weight she has the beating of all save for maybe Rock on Ruby. With Annie in the World, Glens would probably win the Mares and thats two grade 1s for Mullins and Walsh.

The Mares' Hurdle really is a crap sideshow. I'm convinced that if Willie Mullins trained a latter day Dawn Run, he'd be keeping her under wraps to win four or five Mares' Hurdles. Given the paucity of genuine Stayers' Hurdle contenders, Annie would have a cracking chance of winning it this year, but they're obviously taking the easy way out - as they did with Quevega. There's a lot to be said for the old traditional three day fixture.

mulbot · 02-03-2015 1:32am

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

The Mares' Hurdle really is a crap sideshow. I'm convinced that if Willie Mullins trained a latter day Dawn Run, he'd be keeping her under wraps to win four or five Mares' Hurdles. Given the paucity of genuine Stayers' Hurdle contenders, Annie would have a cracking chance of winning it this year, but they're obviously taking the easy way out - as they did with Quevega. There's a lot to be said for the old traditional three day fixture.

Do you think she'd win it with having been off for so long? Ricci already said that's the reason they are going that route

Harry Angstrom · 02-03-2015 1:36am

mulbot wrote: »

Do you think she'd win it with having been off for so long? Ricci already said that's the reason they are going that route

There's not much need to overdo it if she's going for the mares' race. Quevega only made one or two appearances per season and she was still good enough to beat a bunch of donkeys. It would've been a different story if Mullins had to get her ready for the Stayers.

rossom · 02-03-2015 1:54am

jimjamcos wrote: »

For all of us on the Rossom Paint The Clouds bandwagon, Warren Greatrex is at the Dunraven Preview Night tonight with Jonathan Mullin tweeting: Paint The Clouds in super form. "I think he might be better than a Hunter Chaser"

Cheers for that. He's definitely way better than a Hunter Chaser.

bellybuster12 · 02-03-2015 1:59am

jimjamcos wrote: »

Yes probably but Glens will be retired at end of this season most likely while Annie will be around for years injury permitting. They want a Quevega like yearly banker and it'll be her.

Just on this, if she is i wonder is she in foal by any chance, if so it could only be a good thing and makes her the ew bet of the festival, #clutchingatstraws:)

bellybuster12 · 02-03-2015 2:03am

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

The Mares' Hurdle really is a crap sideshow. I'm convinced that if Willie Mullins trained a latter day Dawn Run, he'd be keeping her under wraps to win four or five Mares' Hurdles. Given the paucity of genuine Stayers' Hurdle contenders, Annie would have a cracking chance of winning it this year, but they're obviously taking the easy way out - as they did with Quevega. There's a lot to be said for the old traditional three day fixture.

I agree so far in that it has been quevega show and now looks like an Annie show BUT i think it's very important to have this race for the mares programme. It gives incentive for owners to put NH fillys in training with a grade 1 in Cheltenham to go for.

byronbay2 · 02-03-2015 2:11am

jimjamcos wrote: »

I understand your caution but honestly think its misplaced. She's miles ahead of the likely field, Quinn's decent mare is out and her only serious rival is a stalemate who she's well ahead of while 2m4 is probably her most suitable trip. She's an absolute certainty, if turning up, in my book and anything around 4/5 would be value on the day. "I don't think there's a mare that can beat her off levels. I just think she's a real dinger" - Ruby in Today's Racing Post.

Agree completely, except I am a greedier bastard than you! She is 5/6 on BF now (not NRNB, of course) and I would be pretty certain that some bookie (probably PP) will offer Evens on Tuesday morning. I will be having my biggest bet of the year at that price, if it happens. 10/11 would also be a max-bet price.

Annie Power was beaten a length and a half by an unbeaten and top-class winner in a much better race (Stayers Hurdle) last year with 5L back to the third. As a 7yo, it's quite possible that she will have improved from last year. Best trainer and best jockey looking after her. I really think the Mares race is a penalty kick and would have her as a 1/2 shot.

As an aside, I had my first Cheltenham 2015 bet today - Paint The Clouds @ 5/1 with PP (NRNB) in The Foxhunters. This horse could be different class to the FH field and I reckon 5/1 is a good price.

Edit: Apologies, didn't realise that PTC was Rossom's Cheltenham Nap. Not trying to take any credit should the horse win but just giving an opinion on the 5/1 NRNB available in PP now.

mulbot · 02-03-2015 2:21am

Harry Angstrom wrote: »

There's not much need to overdo it if she's going for the mares' race. Quevega only made one or two appearances per season and she was still good enough to beat a bunch of donkeys. It would've been a different story if Mullins had to get her ready for the Stayers.

I was talking about the stayers,if she hasn't ran since last year,do you think it would be a good idea to run her in the stayer's race,and do you think she would win that

Hulk Hands · 02-03-2015 2:43am

I'd be willing to forgive them going the mares route on a preparation excuse, but only if they go and take on The New One et al in the Aintree hurdle afterwards. I also hope they dont shirk an inevitable confrontation of some sort should every horse stay sound, be it Faugheen vs AP at Aintree or Faugheen vs HF at Punchestown

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