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Army Recruitment - Questions Thread
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I dont know why Im even replying to your stupid post but reading it just made me so angry... I dont expect anyone let alone myself to just "get a handy job in the army with a pension"
It wasnt my choice to be "living off the state for the last two years" and do you think people who havent went to college dont have knowledge or experience??
Idiot
I agree with you there JayJay. Your last word in that post is well suited. It baffles me to see that people in Ireland still think the Army is a handy job.
One does not simply have an easy time in any army let alone an operational European one like the Irish Army.
As I said in a previous post to a PDF basher who was ignorant enough to call people idiots but actually believed most of the Irish Army hadn't ever been overseas; Ireland, UK, and the Americans are the highest contributors of troops (8% of their forces) for operations overseas that are signed up for the NATO PfP. You must be completely daft if you think the Irish Army is "handy". It may be small, but percentage-wise and man for man, its literally one of the most operational armies in the world.
People applying should make no mistake. Your'e trying to join a real army, that goes on real, dangerous operations, trains hell hard, and is incredibly professional and strict. Don't expect an easy time at all. Especially in recruit training. I'm not in the Army but I've studied this stuff in college when looking at EU defence. When academics write about the Irish Army in a good light, and you actually talk to people who have done recruit training, its fair to say that the Afghan war fan boys and begrudgers on this site who just assume with no knowledge that the Irish Army is easy or not a real army are blatantly wrong. Prepare for joining the Irish Army just as you would joining any army, and you'll be fine
Anyway, rant over...
Anyone know when the first recruit platoons of the 600 are due to start? And are they all going to be trained in the DFTC or will they be trained at brigade level? - I'm asking because applicants aren't applying to brigades anymore, rather the army as a whole, so its unclear as to where they will be trained.0 -
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KickstartHeart wrote: »I agree with you there JayJay. Your last word in that post is well suited. It baffles me to see that people in Ireland still think the Army is a handy job.
One does not simply have an easy time in any army let alone an operational European one like the Irish Army.
As I said in a previous post to a PDF basher who was ignorant enough to call people idiots but actually believed most of the Irish Army hadn't ever been overseas; Ireland, UK, and the Americans are the highest contributors of troops (8% of their forces) for operations overseas that are signed up for the NATO PfP. You must be completely daft if you think the Irish Army is "handy". It may be small, but percentage-wise and man for man, its literally one of the most operational armies in the world.
People applying should make no mistake. Your'e trying to join a real army, that goes on real, dangerous operations, trains hell hard, and is incredibly professional and strict. Don't expect an easy time at all. Especially in recruit training. I'm not in the Army but I've studied this stuff in college when looking at EU defence. When academics write about the Irish Army in a good light, and you actually talk to people who have done recruit training, its fair to say that the Afghan war fan boys and begrudgers on this site who just assume with no knowledge that the Irish Army is easy or not a real army are blatantly wrong. Prepare for joining the Irish Army just as you would joining any army, and you'll be fine
Anyway, rant over...
Anyone know when the first recruit platoons of the 600 are due to start? And are they all going to be trained in the DFTC or will they be trained at brigade level? - I'm asking because applicants aren't applying to brigades anymore, rather the army as a whole, so its unclear as to where they will be trained.
"Ireland, UK, and the Americans are the highest contributors of troops (8% of their forces) for operations overseas"
.......Once again, you are making stuff up :rolleyes:
France has 36,000 out of 144,000 troops deployed overseas.(around 20%)
As 1 example, Im sure other countries especially like those who contribute the most numbers to UN ops have a high % to.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Armed_Forces
"The French Army: 144,000 civilian and military personnel (excluding 7,000 Foreign Legion)"
"There are currently 36,000 French troops deployed in foreign territories—such operations are known as "OPEX" for Opérations Extérieures ("External Operations")."
....The UK inc the army of the Rhine would have alot more then 8%.0 -
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SasQuatch88 wrote: »I heard that General enlistment troops who make it to their respective platoons will start training in late summer early autumn..
If It's lies I'm tellin ya, t'was lies i was told...
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KickstartHeart wrote: »Without trying to let this debate spill into a different thread, I'll just rephrase for you... I forgot the word atleast before 8%. Those French and British forces on operations are not on NATO Pfp ops. NATO Pfp countries are required to have atleast 8% of their forces on operations on NATO Pfp missions. Ireland, Britain, and the USA are the only countries that are actually doing that. The rest of the countries signed up to Pfp are just not doing it. Nothing I've said is made up. I literally gave you my sources of this information when we talked about it last.
EDIT: At the moment actually there isn't 8% of Irish forces on Pfp missions because of the battalion in Lebanon being the major overseas commitment at the moment. When the piece that I attached to my post in the other thread when we were chatting about this stuff was written Ireland had troops involved in KFOR and EUFOR T/Chad. REGARDLESS, the point still stands. The Irish Army doesn't just sit on its butt back home. If your'e joining, your'e joining a real army and the training isn't going to be easy.
Also, if any of the Mods want me to take these posts down from this thread because they're getting a bit off topic just post here and say it and I'll get rid of them.
I can only comment on what you have posted, not what you should have posted, as I am not a mind reader.
Although I would not trust anything you post, as when checked its usually bs.
Now you want our posts removed cause you look silly :rolleyes:0 -
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