Cork GAA Discussion Thread

rebel girl 15 · 25-08-2013 12:56am

Thinkstoomuch wrote: »

Her reading,and composure and footballing intelligence is second to none.She c things,in a game,others cant even contemplate.

Fair enough,kicking snow of a rope was harsh.You know me,i dont mince my words though.

Being a keeper you are dependant on the movement of the players on front of you, but if you were at the game you would have seen the lack of Dublin movement which forced Hey top fop long to a breaking ball situation

I'm going to head to bed and I'll have a look in the morning

Thinkstoomuch · 25-08-2013 12:57am

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

My bad, the golf classic was the holiday I think, but the thing in reardons was more camogie findraising than ladies football. I'm home nearly an hour, wrecked but all on a compete high!

no both...sum comeback up their and as gd as with the hurlers against galway in 08, and dublin twice 2010,and the league final .

I wrote cork off,at seven down,i tgt it was curtains!

Thinkstoomuch · 25-08-2013 1:00am

rebel girl 15 wrote: »

Being a keeper you are dependant on the movement of the players on front of you, but if you were at the game you would have seen the lack of Dublin movement which forced Hey top fop long to a breaking ball situation

I'm going to head to bed and I'll have a look in the morning

Fair enough,and i agree you got to be at the game to c what the tv doesnt.

I wasnt.

Archer3083 · 25-08-2013 4:16am

Thinkstoomuch wrote: »

They do and captained by Ruairi deane,a good driving force.Kildare have never won it,and the year it has been ,underdogs are a dangerous animal.

They should have beaten us in 2011 and took us to extra time.The kildare lads say bolton at full forward is very good.Their due to win this some day,and cork football teams dont do favourites tags well,in all ireland finals,and the gaelic grounds has been a grave yard for many a cork team in the past.

Full back,is where with omahony cork at weak.
Yeah it was awful the lads stuff was taken.Diarmuid o donovan the new admin man,was there with them,so id say he got them sorted.Hes a football man to the core,that wasthe same day as the hurling.
I dont doubt hes geuine.The problem with him is he wonbe radical,brave or bold enough when it comes to appointing managers,and more likely to go with guys that have a life time of service to cork and county board men,than actual talent.

Hes barometer of underage success would not inspire success.He was v poor when he was minor manager,but felt he done well as he produced players.

Well I'd say we can rule Jack O'Connor out for the Cork senior job. It looks like he's going to go for the minor job in Kerry. Micky Ned O'Sullivan has been there for the last 2 years and done a good job but it looks like Jack will challenge for that role when it comes up for grabs. So, maybe that's an indication that he wouldn't take the Cork job anyway. And it looks like Jason Ryan will take the Laois job as well. So, that's 2 outside managers who won't be coming to Lee side.

Thinkstoomuch · 25-08-2013 10:35am

Archer3083 wrote: »

Well I'd say we can rule Jack O'Connor out for the Cork senior job. It looks like he's going to go for the minor job in Kerry. Micky Ned O'Sullivan has been there for the last 2 years and done a good job but it looks like Jack will challenge for that role when it comes up for grabs. So, maybe that's an indication that he wouldn't take the Cork job anyway. And it looks like Jason Ryan will take the Laois job as well. So, that's 2 outside managers who won't be coming to Lee side.

Rule him out,he has to be in contention in the first place.He never was nor any outside man.
The white elephant is the nail on the coffin.You don't seem to realise,the board wont part with money.

Take the homecoming on the Monday night for the cork hurlers,on the South Mall.Win ,could get 50 thousand.Even they loose,they will be a stage.

Who are responsible for cork gaa teams?the board.But they will pay nothing in the cost of staging that in the current climate,the city council have to take thdm cost.That could easily cost fifty thousand or more,with security,entertainment etc.

By right,it should be held in the Pairc,like kilkenny hold theirs in knowlan park.

At least the fans wouldnt be cramped on the south mall and would have comfort.

.But they wont,as if they did,they would have to pay the cost,and they wouldnt get any gate reciepts,as thats not something they can charge for.This isnt like the home coming for Rob hefferanean,where their was no other venue.Cork Gaa has one.

They do not want to spend money,its all the new stadium.They wont open the pairc for a home coming,but for Bruce,no bother,as he pays them money.

Seriously,this is rubbish,any talk of outside men.

Honesty ,trust me,there was never any hope they would come down.Their is no way cork will even think about an outsideman.The bookies are cute,ryan around 12 to 1, and tempted people for value put money on him.
It was never going to happen.

Jason is overhyped,woudnt win with cork.Another media romantic story.A good manager but not great.

Its cuthbhert job,close run by cleary.
A two horse race.any other names is just public spin,to make a race of it.

mr bungle. · 26-08-2013 5:04pm

i see that thinkstoomuch has closed his/her account,i for one enjoyed his/her posts,they were informative and interesting ( although sometimes too long.

) anyway good luck

Mouth of the South · 26-08-2013 5:59pm

It has been confirmed that the All Ireland senior hurling final between Clare and Cork on September 8th will be refereed by Kilkenny's Brian Gavin.

Martin567 · 26-08-2013 7:36pm

Mouth of the South wrote: »

It has been confirmed that the All Ireland senior hurling final between Clare and Cork on September 8th will be refereed by Kilkenny's Brian Gavin.

Unfortunately Cork's Barry Kelly was unavailable.

Mouth of the South · 26-08-2013 9:48pm

Martin567 wrote: »

Unfortunately Cork's Barry Kelly was unavailable.

You'd be much more at home with the other slack-jawed nutjobs on the stripeymen.com with those conspiracy theories.

Martin567 · 26-08-2013 10:03pm

Mouth of the South wrote: »

You'd be much more at home with the other slack-jawed nutjobs on the stripeymen.com with those conspiracy theories.

I was only responding to your earlier post. Like with like, as they say. You're clearly here on vacation from PROC where your ludicrous views would be considered mainstream and reasonable posters get abused.

Mouth of the South · 26-08-2013 10:13pm

Martin567 wrote: »

I was only responding to your earlier post. Like with like, as they say. You're clearly here on vacation from PROC where your ludicrous views would be considered mainstream and reasonable posters get abused.

So you keep telling me. I don't post on the PROC, but I don't ever recall any concerted campaigns on it against named referees or crackpot conspiracy theories dominating it like that which dominates the thestripeymen.com. You'd fit in well.

Martin567 · 26-08-2013 11:29pm

Mouth of the South wrote: »

I don't post on the PROC, but I don't ever recall any concerted campaigns on it against named referees or crackpot conspiracy theories dominating it like that which dominates the thestripeymen.com.

Really? You couldn't possibly be more wrong about that.

Mouth of the South · 27-08-2013 12:01am

Martin567 wrote: »

Really? You couldn't possibly be more wrong about that.

Yeah, really. Really with a cherry on top. It's a haven for paranoid yokels with some proper headcases dictating the tone. Some of the stuff n the link below is the craziest, bitterest and most delusional I have ever read on any fans forum . Some of it is unintentionally hilarious too, to be fair.

http://www.thestripeymen.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?fid=5

Martin567 · 27-08-2013 12:13am

Strange person.

Amprodude · 27-08-2013 1:30am

Martin567 wrote: »

Unfortunately Cork's Barry Kelly was unavailable.

Logs onto Cork GAA forum. Expects to read something informative about Cork GAA. Instead i see a bitter Kilkenny man still hasn't got over their defeat. Shame really to the good Kilkenny fans out there who I do have respect for.

Martin567 · 27-08-2013 8:49am

Read the post before the one you've just commented on and give me your opinion of that also.

Archer3083 · 28-08-2013 2:24am

Thinkstoomuch wrote: »

Rule him out,he has to be in contention in the first place.He never was nor any outside man.
The white elephant is the nail on the coffin.You don't seem to realise,the board wont part with money.

Take the homecoming on the Monday night for the cork hurlers,on the South Mall.Win ,could get 50 thousand.Even they loose,they will be a stage.

Who are responsible for cork gaa teams?the board.But they will pay nothing in the cost of staging that in the current climate,the city council have to take thdm cost.That could easily cost fifty thousand or more,with security,entertainment etc.

By right,it should be held in the Pairc,like kilkenny hold theirs in knowlan park.

At least the fans wouldnt be cramped on the south mall and would have comfort.

.But they wont,as if they did,they would have to pay the cost,and they wouldnt get any gate reciepts,as thats not something they can charge for.This isnt like the home coming for Rob hefferanean,where their was no other venue.Cork Gaa has one.

They do not want to spend money,its all the new stadium.They wont open the pairc for a home coming,but for Bruce,no bother,as he pays them money.

Seriously,this is rubbish,any talk of outside men.

Honesty ,trust me,there was never any hope they would come down.Their is no way cork will even think about an outsideman.The bookies are cute,ryan around 12 to 1, and tempted people for value put money on him.
It was never going to happen.

Jason is overhyped,woudnt win with cork.Another media romantic story.A good manager but not great.

Its cuthbhert job,close run by cleary.
A two horse race.any other names is just public spin,to make a race of it.

Fair enough. Even I think that Cork would never go with an outsider manager, but I don't think in principle that it's ludicrous to suggest the possibility of an outsider manger. In principle, if you get the right manager, the results will justify the appointment.

ted2767 · 28-08-2013 8:24am

Martin567 wrote: »

Read the post before the one you've just commented on and give me your opinion of that also.

You obviously have nothing better to do with yourself than come on here looking to annoy other people which is quite sad.
You're also doing a disservice to the many fine KK supporters who can take their beatings.
The history between KK and Cork is littered with close games which were often influenced by a controversial incident, those involved got on with their lives like men unlike someone like yourself who trolls online forums looking for a platform to moan and b***h.
Take your defeat like a man or don't play the game.
By the way were you this concerned about referees when ye got that penalty in 2009?
Don't think so.

Martin567 · 28-08-2013 9:03am

Am I missing something here? My reference to "Cork's Barry Kelly" was a simple response to another poster's reference to "Kilkenny's Brian Gavin". Surely that was completely obvious. Do you not have anything to say to the original Cork poster? Just like a lot of Cork people, banter and a sense of humour are very much a one way street.

Amprodude · 29-08-2013 1:36am

Martin567 wrote: »

a sense of humour are very much a one way street.

:rolleyes:

Martin567 · 29-08-2013 7:21am

Amprodude wrote: »

:rolleyes:

??

ShamoBuc · 29-08-2013 2:37pm

Thread really has gone to shít - bring on some games, quick!

zetecescort · 29-08-2013 8:33pm

Ladies football fixed for Thurles on sat 7th at 4pm. handy for people heading up for the hurling on sat to drop in on their way

Mouth of the South · 30-08-2013 1:30pm

Martin567 wrote: »

Am I missing something here? My reference to "Cork's Barry Kelly" was a simple response to another poster's reference to "Kilkenny's Brian Gavin". Surely that was completely obvious. Do you not have anything to say to the original Cork poster? Just like a lot of Cork people, banter and a sense of humour are very much a one way street.

The point you are missing is that you are a CATatonically boring dullard. Actually, is there a Kilkenny man born yet who has a sense of humour? I haven't met any. There is no place in Ireland with more boring, dull people. Or bitter, sore losers. Now go away to wherever all you bitter sore losers from Kilkenny whinge about referees ( except the compliant lapdog refs like Gavin and Kirwan et al) and the conspiracies that the GAA/refs/Cork/whoever are cooking up against you and fester there instead.

Mouth of the South · 30-08-2013 1:44pm

Archer3083 wrote: »

Fair enough. Even I think that Cork would never go with an outsider manager, but I don't think in principle that it's ludicrous to suggest the possibility of an outsider manger. In principle, if you get the right manager, the results will justify the appointment.

Cork must be the only county in Ireland who have never had an outside manager in either code (along with Kilkenny, as doubt anyone would want to manage their football team in the All Britain junior championship). As long as Frank is there it will stay that way, unfortunately. If Cuthbert is the heir anointed, it doesn't say a lot for the managerial talent in the county in general. I'd hope at least that he would look beyond the county bounds for a coach to assist him the way James Horan did with Donie Buckley for instance.

BPKS · 30-08-2013 4:02pm

Mouth of the South wrote: »

Cork must be the only county in Ireland who have never had an outside manager in either code (along with Kilkenny, as doubt anyone would want to manage their football team in the All Britain junior championship). As long as Frank is there it will stay that way, unfortunately. If Cuthbert is the heir anointed, it doesn't say a lot for the managerial talent in the county in general. I'd hope at least that he would look beyond the county bounds for a coach to assist him the way James Horan did with Donie Buckley for instance.

Ye have no problem with outside players though.

D'Agger · 30-08-2013 4:39pm

BPKS wrote: »

Ye have no problem with outside players though.

Top notch stuff right here

Indie. · 30-08-2013 4:45pm

BPKS wrote: »

Ye have no problem with outside players though.

D'Agger wrote: »

Top notch stuff right here

He's obviously referring to Sean Og!!

ShamoBuc · 30-08-2013 4:54pm

Indie. wrote: »

He's obviously referring to Sean Og!!

Would have thought Shea and Larry.

Mouth of the South · 30-08-2013 5:06pm

BPKS wrote: »

Ye have no problem with outside players though.

Where are you from, buddy? Have you ever had them?

It wouldn't be Kerry , per chance, would it ? The Kerry of Dan O'Keefe , winner of 7 All Ireland medals and a member of the GAA team of the millennium.

Of course, it couldn't really be the Kerry of Dan O'Keefe, considering Dan O'Keefe was a Corkman from Fermoy.

premierstone · 30-08-2013 5:21pm

BPKS wrote: »

Ye have no problem with outside players though.

Indie. wrote: »

He's obviously referring to Sean Og!!

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Would have thought Shea and Larry.

What county would Sean Og or he's brothers have played for only Cork

James Loughrey is from the very very very north of mallow aswell

ShamoBuc · 30-08-2013 5:36pm

premierstone wrote: »

What county would Sean Og or he's brothers have played for only Cork

James Loughrey is from the very very very north of mallow aswell

Never thought of him as an 'outsider'.

premierstone · 30-08-2013 5:40pm

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Never thought of him as an 'outsider'.

Absolutely, its a redicilous example tbh, he's as Cork as Murphy's

D'Agger · 30-08-2013 5:54pm

Mouth of the South wrote: »

Where are you from, buddy? Have you ever had them?

It wouldn't be Kerry , per chance, would it ? The Kerry of Dan O'Keefe , winner of 7 All Ireland medals and a member of the GAA team of the millennium.

Of course, it couldn't really be the Kerry of Dan O'Keefe, considering Dan O'Keefe was a Corkman from Fermoy.

I'd say put the stones down before assuming something in this glasshouse

Mouth of the South · 30-08-2013 6:02pm

D'Agger wrote: »

I'd say put the stones down before assuming something in this glasshouse

I never made any claims or taunts about players coming from other counties , but yer man (who appears to be from Kerry) did.

D'Agger · 03-09-2013 4:42pm

Mouth of the South wrote: »

I never made any claims or taunts about players coming from other counties , but yer man (who appears to be from Kerry) did.

I was on about assuming somebody who makes a petty remark hails from Kerry before responding with an equally petty remark tbh

Paz-CCFC · 03-09-2013 10:00pm

If anyone who's going up to Dublin for the weekend is looking for a bit more sport on Saturday night, Cork City play away to Shamrock Rovers in Tallaght at 7pm. You can make it out there from the city centre by Luas or by bus, which will drop you in sight of the ground. It'd be good to get a big away crowd supporting the Rebel Army ahead of the hurling match on Sunday. We'll probably be wearing our red away jersey, since our home green one clashes with Rovers' green and white hoops, so any Cork GAA jersey would blend in nicely.

PS, in case anyone thinks I'm trying to drag this thread off topic, a mod ok'd it.

ShamoBuc · 03-09-2013 10:21pm

Still waiting on a ticket - going Sat if I get one because I want to combine 'the trip to Tallaght' with 'the trip to croker' - just need the ticket now!!

Martin567 · 03-09-2013 10:31pm

Mouth of the South wrote: »

The point you are missing is that you are a CATatonically boring dullard. Actually, is there a Kilkenny man born yet who has a sense of humour? I haven't met any. There is no place in Ireland with more boring, dull people. Or bitter, sore losers. Now go away to wherever all you bitter sore losers from Kilkenny whinge about referees ( except the compliant lapdog refs like Gavin and Kirwan et al) and the conspiracies that the GAA/refs/Cork/whoever are cooking up against you and fester there instead.

Nice bit of writing there. All you need to do is replace the word 'Kilkenny' with 'Cork' and you've just perfectly described yourself and any other Cork supporter who's spent the last seven years whinging about Kilkenny. Some of your supporters are completely insufferable, utterly humourless, foulmouthed begrudgers.

To the many thousands of decent Cork supporters, that's not directed at you. Enjoy the week ahead.

zetecescort · 04-09-2013 9:05am

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Still waiting on a ticket - going Sat if I get one because I want to combine 'the trip to Tallaght' with 'the trip to croker' - just need the ticket now!!

Will be combining a trip to Thurles for the ladies on sat if I get a ticket

Archer3083 · 04-09-2013 9:23am

Mouth of the South wrote: »

Cork must be the only county in Ireland who have never had an outside manager in either code (along with Kilkenny, as doubt anyone would want to manage their football team in the All Britain junior championship). As long as Frank is there it will stay that way, unfortunately. If Cuthbert is the heir anointed, it doesn't say a lot for the managerial talent in the county in general. I'd hope at least that he would look beyond the county bounds for a coach to assist him the way James Horan did with Donie Buckley for instance.

If you have to appoint a coach to back up Cuthbert then you'd already be admitting defeat. We all remember what happened with Steve Staunton (Bobby Robson was initially appointed his assistant). In any case, we don't know if Cuthbert will be appointed although it's highly likely that either Cuthbert, Cleary or Fitzgerald will be appointed. Billy Morgan has ruled himself out already so he's not an option either.

After watching the Kerry v Dublin game on Sunday I was shocked by how good a performance that Kerry put in given that alot of players are either old or have alot of miles on the clock. Fitzmaurice is a young manager is taking over Kerry at the worst time possible. Alot of players are likely to retire now and the young players coming in aren't up to the level of the older players. It got me thinking though. If a manager had a choice and could manage any county team in Ireland, what team would he pick? The obvious choice would be Dublin of course, but I really believe that Cork are the next dream option. Cork would appear to have the second best pool of players after Dublin. The forward line of Sheehan, O'Neill, Hurley, Goulding, Kelly, Kerrigan and Aidan Welsh in midfield are as good a front 7 as you could possibly wish for. Donnchadh O'Connor, Fintan Gould or Pearse O'Neill are excellent subs to add to that front 7. I think the next Cork manger will look at the Cork team and think if I can get a partner for Aidan Walsh in midfield and get a good back line then I can easily compete with Dublin.

Mouth of the South · 04-09-2013 10:39am

Martin567 wrote: »

Nice bit of writing there. All you need to do is replace the word 'Kilkenny' with 'Cork' and you've just perfectly described yourself and any other Cork supporter who's spent the last seven years whinging about Kilkenny. Some of your supporters are completely insufferable, utterly humourless, foulmouthed begrudgers.

To the many thousands of decent Cork supporters, that's not directed at you. Enjoy the week ahead.

Are you stalking me ? And are you incapable of making a retort other than 'no , you are'. Imitation is indeed the most sincere form of flattery.

Mouth of the South · 04-09-2013 10:45am

Archer3083 wrote: »

If you have to appoint a coach to back up Cuthbert then you'd already be admitting defeat. We all remember what happened with Steve Staunton (Bobby Robson was initially appointed his assistant). In any case, we don't know if Cuthbert will be appointed although it's highly likely that either Cuthbert, Cleary or Fitzgerald will be appointed. Billy Morgan has ruled himself out already so he's not an option either.

After watching the Kerry v Dublin game on Sunday I was shocked by how good a performance that Kerry put in given that alot of players are either old or have alot of miles on the clock. Fitzmaurice is a young manager is taking over Kerry at the worst time possible. Alot of players are likely to retire now and the young players coming in aren't up to the level of the older players. It got me thinking though. If a manager had a choice and could manage any county team in Ireland, what team would he pick? The obvious choice would be Dublin of course, but I really believe that Cork are the next dream option. Cork would appear to have the second best pool of players after Dublin. The forward line of Sheehan, O'Neill, Hurley, Goulding, Kelly, Kerrigan and Aidan Welsh in midfield are as good a front 7 as you could possibly wish for. Donnchadh O'Connor, Fintan Gould or Pearse O'Neill are excellent subs to add to that front 7. I think the next Cork manger will look at the Cork team and think if I can get a partner for Aidan Walsh in midfield and get a good back line then I can easily compete with Dublin.

Galway would be an attractive option too. Cuthbert will be the next manager anyway, pretty much a fait accompli I'd reckon. His record with the minors and B'town isn't all that great when you stand back and look at it and don't know how much he is going to bring to the table.

The_Kew_Tour · 04-09-2013 10:46am

Feck me im getting nervous.

Archer3083 · 04-09-2013 10:52am

Mouth of the South wrote: »

Galway would be an attractive option too. Cuthbert will be the next manager anyway, pretty much a fait accompli I'd reckon. His record with the minors and B'town isn't all that great when you stand back and look at it and don't know how much he is going to bring to the table.

Galway have great prospects when you consider their U21 success but it remains to be seen if that can be brought through to senior level. Realistically players aren't at their best til they are 23 or 24.

I think it's strange that in the gaa it has to be a local man, it can't be an outside manager. It just seems to be arrogance on the part of certain big counties like Cork. They'd rather put a local man in no matter what rather than admit that they can't find managerial talent in their own county. If it was soccer, the very same Cork supporters would have a different tune and demand the best manager. Having said all that, Cuthbert could turn out to be a fantastic manager, but with the amount of talent Cork has in the team, they deserve a manger that has proven success at senior inter county level. I'm not saying that Jason Ryan or Keiran McGeeney or Jack O'Connor would be the answer but if James Horan offered to take over the Cork footballers next year, would anyone complain too much

D'Agger · 04-09-2013 11:09am

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Feck me im getting nervous.

As a Kerryman I'm totes jelly

Martin567 · 04-09-2013 11:21am

Mouth of the South wrote: »

Are you stalking me ? And are you incapable of making a retort other than 'no , you are'. Imitation is indeed the most sincere form of flattery.

As I said to you before, you are one very strange person. The unintended irony in your comment above and in several earlier posts is really very funny.

Mouth of the South · 04-09-2013 12:42pm

Martin567 wrote: »

As I said to you before, you are one very strange person. The unintended irony in your comment above and in several earlier posts is really very funny.

"As I said to you before" - yep, that's right, nothing from you is original Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

You're clearly obsessed. And as equally boring as every other KK person who ever lived. Now toddle off and be boring somewhere else and stop clogging up this thread.

Mouth of the South · 04-09-2013 12:49pm

Archer3083 wrote: »

Galway have great prospects when you consider their U21 success but it remains to be seen if that can be brought through to senior level. Realistically players aren't at their best til they are 23 or 24.

I think it's strange that in the gaa it has to be a local man, it can't be an outside manager. It just seems to be arrogance on the part of certain big counties like Cork. They'd rather put a local man in no matter what rather than admit that they can't find managerial talent in their own county. If it was soccer, the very same Cork supporters would have a different tune and demand the best manager. Having said all that, Cuthbert could turn out to be a fantastic manager, but with the amount of talent Cork has in the team, they deserve a manger that has proven success at senior inter county level. I'm not saying that Jason Ryan or Keiran McGeeney or Jack O'Connor would be the answer but if James Horan offered to take over the Cork footballers next year, would anyone complain too much

I'd say a fella like Keith Ricken would be worth a shot considering his record with CIT and St. Vincents, but I don't think his face fits with Frank. I wouldn't want Geezer, but I'd be open to an outside manager taking the reins. At the end of the day, I wouldn't care two hoots whether a manager is from Tralee or Timbuktu as long as he could make the most of the undoubted playing talent that is there and sadly it appears the managerial talent isn't there to exploit it. Did Galway people care two hoots that it took a Mayoman like John O'Mahony to deliver them an All Ireland? I doubt it.

rebel girl 15 · 04-09-2013 2:25pm

Mouth of the South and Martin567, any more bickering and attacking each other on the thread, and both of you will be banned until the end of the month. Attack the post, not the poster

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