The Dublin West 2014 By-Election Thread

oblivious · 19-05-2014 10:12am

Grudaire wrote: »

Did he finish his story and actually say what he would do if he was elected? :pac:

Possably finish his story and knock on more doors :P

Morag · 19-05-2014 7:14pm

oh dear.

https://twitter.com/williamhboney1/statuses/468451252075257858

Lorraine Higgins showing Labours respect for people with a disability

athtrasna · 19-05-2014 7:21pm

She's running in the European elections in Midlands North West?

athtrasna · 19-05-2014 7:42pm

Just had a Sean Lyons car drive into our estate with a loud speaker blasting vote for him crap. It's almost 8pm on a school night and there are a lot of young kids in the estate, I'm not impressed!

Larbre34 · 20-05-2014 1:30pm

athtrasna wrote: »

Just had a Sean Lyons car drive into our estate with a loud speaker blasting vote for him crap. It's almost 8pm on a school night and there are a lot of young kids in the estate, I'm not impressed!

You could call it anti-social media.

Amazed people still do that, makes me think of Back to the Future when Marty arrives back in 1955 for the first time and the mayor is touring around the town square touting for votes with a loud hailer on his car

jack presley · 21-05-2014 4:06pm

Fancy, top quality colour leaflet just came through the letterbox from Fingal Co. Co. telling me where to vote on Friday.

I wonder how much these cost to print and distribute?

jack presley · 21-05-2014 4:15pm

This is an honest question and I'm not truing to have a dig at David McGuinness but I got a leaflet through the door from him earlier in the week where his point was that as he has formally raised 96 issues to Fingal CC over the past 14 months as opposed to Ruth Coppinger's 12, he has delivered more for Dublin West?

So does asking a question or raising an issue actually mean you are delivering? Out of the 96/12 issues raised by the 2 of them, how many were actually acted on or resolved to their satisfaction?

Grudaire · 21-05-2014 4:20pm

jack presley wrote: »

So does asking a question or raising an issue actually mean you are delivering? Out of the 96/12 issues raised by the 2 of them, how many were actually acted on or resolved to their satisfaction?

It's also quality vs quantity...

Generally issues raised are no more than notifying the council of a broken streetlight!

jack presley · 21-05-2014 4:27pm

Grudaire wrote: »

It's also quality vs quantity...

Generally issues raised are no more than notifying the council of a broken streetlight!

That's what I was thinking. Is it too late for him to tell us how successful he was with the issues he raised then and the seriousness of them?

ThisRegard · 21-05-2014 4:37pm

Apparently there's not a whole lot a councillor can actually do,

From http://bocktherobber.com/2014/03/local-elections-2014-what-powers-do-local-councillors-have/ and broadsheet.ie
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Grudaire · 21-05-2014 4:38pm

jack presley wrote: »

That's what I was thinking. Is it too late for him to tell us how successful he was with the issues he raised then and the seriousness of them?

You can always try get in contact with him..

It's a meaningless statistic really. Especially when it comes to showing how good either candidate might be in the Dáil.

It looks like it's Coppingers for the taking now though. My first preference is Roderic, but I'm very torn on second preference.. I don't particularly want any of the 6 favourites, especially after that joke of a debate.

Kiwi_knock · 21-05-2014 4:51pm

It is not really a persuasive argument. The work he has done is more important than the issues he has raised. Would be more useful to highlight his voting record on issues.

Zaph · 21-05-2014 7:14pm

Grudaire wrote: »

It looks like it's Coppingers for the taking now though.

Has there been an opinion poll published? I haven't seen anything at all so I'm really in the dark as to who's likely to get elected.

Grudaire · 21-05-2014 7:23pm

Zaph wrote: »

Has there been an opinion poll published? I haven't seen anything at all so I'm really in the dark as to who's likely to get elected.

Guesswork.

I just can't see disillusioned labour voters heading to Sinn Féin over the socialists (in our constituency!)

Zaph · 21-05-2014 7:24pm

Fair point. Actually it's pretty poor that there hasn't been any sort of opinion poll. Paddy Power are probably still the nearest thing we have to one.

Kiwi_knock · 21-05-2014 8:22pm

Coppinger has to be the firm favourite. Nulty's vote was a left wing vote not a government vote so it should be going towards her. Dublin West has never been a SF area, so unless Donnelly can buck the trend, Coppinger will get the left wing vote.

Probably the most interesting thing is where will David Hall get his votes from, he will do well enough in the middle class areas but I am unsure if he can get votes in the working class areas.

ThisRegard · 21-05-2014 10:45pm

Joan Burton popped around today, of course I was out but they've been the only canvasser's to drop in while either of us have been in.

daymobrew · 22-05-2014 7:27am

jack presley wrote: »

Fancy, top quality colour leaflet just came through the letterbox from Fingal Co. Co. telling me where to vote on Friday.

I wonder how much these cost to print and distribute?

Why on earth did they bother - the plain old black and white polling card has the necessary info.

Zaph · 22-05-2014 7:43am

ThisRegard wrote: »

Joan Burton popped around today, of course I was out but they've been the only canvasser's to drop in while either of us have been in.

David Hall called to the door last week. It's the first time a candidate has ever called to the door in all the time I've lived in D15. Complete spoofer, but he talks a good game which will get him votes in certain areas.

daymobrew · 22-05-2014 10:17pm

Eithne Loftus was in Riverwood, Carpenterstown this afternoon. I got a little flyer in the letter box but no knock on the door.

Ironically the flyer expressed her disappointment at not being able to meet as many people as she wanted. Eh, didn't even try!! :rolleyes:

athtrasna · 22-05-2014 10:19pm

daymobrew wrote: »

Eithne Loftus was in Riverwood, Carpenterstown this afternoon. I got a little flyer in the letter box but no knock on the door.

Ironically the flyer expressed her disappointment at not being able to meet as many people as she wanted. Eh, didn't even try!! :rolleyes:

She's running in the locals not the Bye-Election

sock puppet · 23-05-2014 12:25pm

I hope everyone picked up their free fruit from Eamonn Coughlan today.

Sierra Oscar · 23-05-2014 12:50pm

RTÉ are doing an exit poll for this. Official result in the morning, but I wonder if we could hear more late tonight?

Grudaire · 23-05-2014 1:37pm

sock puppet wrote: »

I hope everyone picked up their free fruit from Eamonn Coughlan today.

Desperation tactics using delicious and healthy bribery!? :pac:

It'll be interesting to see the exit poll, but this bye-election will be won on transfers, so I'm not sure how relevant it will be?

jonnybravo · 23-05-2014 2:38pm

Grudaire wrote: »

Desperation tactics using delicious and healthy bribery!? :pac:

It'll be interesting to see the exit poll, but this bye-election will be won on transfers, so I'm not sure how relevant it will be?

Be interesting all right. Going by the odds in the bookies Ruth Coppinger is nailed on to get it. I presume they have access to polls for their odds.

Grudaire · 23-05-2014 2:51pm

jonnybravo wrote: »

Be interesting all right. Going by the odds in the bookies Ruth Coppinger is nailed on to get it. I presume they have access to polls for their odds.

Generally it's just based on where the money is going..

Arciphel · 23-05-2014 9:41pm

Good to see one candidate posting pictures of completed ballot papers on Facebook... How brainless can you get?

athtrasna · 23-05-2014 9:42pm

Arciphel wrote: »

Good to see one candidate posting pictures of completed ballot papers on Facebook... How brainless can you get?

Fine of €1,270 or 6 months in prison worth of brainless

January · 23-05-2014 9:47pm

He's sharing photos if it's the same candidate I'm seeing.. I didn't think it was an offence!

Toto Wolfcastle · 23-05-2014 9:50pm

Which candidate is that?

athtrasna · 23-05-2014 9:54pm

January wrote: »

He's sharing photos if it's the same candidate I'm seeing.. I didn't think it was an offence!

it is for the people whose photos they were...including his brother IIRC

Hilly Bill · 23-05-2014 10:11pm

Grudaire wrote: »

The final candidate lists aren't going to change anymore: http://www.dublincountyreturningofficer.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=193:list-of-candidates-2014-bye-election&catid=43:dublin-west-bye-election-2014&Itemid=201

Do Fís Nua not realise you need to campaign to get elected!?

O sugar , i thought it was Irish for Non Party

. I think they got my euro vote

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January · 23-05-2014 10:14pm

Bobblehead Panda wrote: »

Which candidate is that?

FF by-election candidate.

LoonyLovegood · 24-05-2014 12:57am

Wait, that's an offence? One of my most detested political 'commentator's posted photos of his completed ballots. Ooooh.

Morag · 24-05-2014 1:06am

I posted a pic of my ballot papers, but I didn't take the pic while in the polling booth.

Kiwi_knock · 24-05-2014 9:54am

There is a live tally by some on Twitter: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qJodg_zyUXUoGoNy40EHugjBlAXV58ZxQEDACm179ZE/pubhtml

Coppinger in the lead, but Donnelly polling very strongly as well. McGuinness is doing well. Hall is still in contention. It is not looking good for Coghlan. 10% of the boxes have been counted so far.

LoonyLovegood · 24-05-2014 10:43am

I'm just wondering where the transfers will go. I can't predict where the bulk of Coughlan or Mulligans will be. They also haven't opened any boxes from the Castleknock end.

athtrasna · 24-05-2014 10:57am

Morag wrote: »

I posted a pic of my ballot papers, but I didn't take the pic while in the polling booth.

If the ballots were completed it's illegal, if they were blank then you're grand

Grudaire · 24-05-2014 11:00am

CTYIgirl wrote: »

I'm just wondering where the transfers will go. I can't predict where the bulk of Coughlan or Mulligans will be. They also haven't opened any boxes from the Castleknock end.

I've been helping at the tally. The voting patterns are weird a lot of people just putting down number 1s

Green doing better than labour at the moment though for the bye election. Looks like coppinger but it's very early yet

Kiwi_knock · 24-05-2014 11:01am

Will be a disaster for FG if Coghlan ends up in 5th. At this stage transfers will be massive.

retalivity · 24-05-2014 11:03am

Living in d15 but not eligible to vote here... would love to see coughlan fail miserably. Had his people knocking on the car window at the lights in castleknock on the way to work yesterday, waved them off but they then started trying to put the flyer beteeen the glass and the door! Promptly rolled down the window and told them to fcuk off.
Would never vote fg anyway but the policy of parachuting names or faces in with no experience and clearly no idea what to do (tv3 appearance) really grates on me

Kiwi_knock · 24-05-2014 11:21am

Looks like a two horse race at the moment, McGuinness drifting away. Have any Castleknock boxes been opened yet?

Grudaire · 24-05-2014 11:30am

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Looks like a two horse race at the moment, McGuinness drifting away. Have any Castleknock boxes been opened yet?

Don't think so..

LoonyLovegood · 24-05-2014 11:49am

Grudaire wrote: »

I've been helping at the tally. The voting patterns are weird a lot of people just putting down number 1s

Green doing better than labour at the moment though for the bye election. Looks like coppinger but it's very early yet

I was talking to my Mam about that when we went in yesterday. She'll usually get to 5 or 6 on the list, she only got to 2.

Kiwi_knock · 24-05-2014 12:10pm

Donnelly goes ahead with 10% of boxes left. Could a massive shock be on the cards.

LoonyLovegood · 24-05-2014 12:34pm

44 votes between Donnelly and Coppinger. Boyne, Kidd and Lyons to be eliminated. The Greens have beaten Labour on first preferences by almost 400!

Kiwi_knock · 24-05-2014 12:38pm

ThisRegard · 24-05-2014 3:24pm

Kiwi_knock wrote: »

Donnelly goes ahead with 10% of boxes left. Could a massive shock be on the cards.

RTE have the two of them neck and neck. I gave neither a preference but would rather Donnelly over Copinger.

ThisRegard · 24-05-2014 3:41pm

Donnolly ahead on the actual count. No one called that this morning. Who's more transfer friendly?

Kiwi_knock · 24-05-2014 3:43pm

Still would have Coppinger as favourite, but then no one thought Donnelly would do that well.

Donnelly (SF) 6056
Coppinger (SP) 5977
McGuinness (FF) 5053
Hall (Ind) 3803
Coghlan (FG) 3715
O’Gorman (Grn) 1856
Mulligan (Lab) 1505

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