The Official Cavan GAA Discussion thread.

tayto lover · 18-03-2023 4:43pm

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You can't always hand pass your way through games. Sometimes you have to kick the ball in and not starve your forwards of possession.

tanko · 18-03-2023 4:45pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120373078#Comment_120373078

We’re relegated.

celt262 · 18-03-2023 4:46pm

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Have to beat Fermanagh or could end up in three way tie and Westmeath would have us on scoring.

Edit if Fermanagh beat westmeath I think we are promoted.

tanko · 18-03-2023 5:07pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120373094#Comment_120373094

If Fermanagh beat Westmeath today they join us on 10 pts, Westmeath can only get 8 pts at most. Down and Offaly still have hope i think.

We need a draw to be sure, even if we lose very good chance of promotion have we not.

celt262 · 18-03-2023 5:11pm

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Yeah but only 1 off them as they play each other and we have both on head to head.

Bit off a joke to be in this position.

tanko · 18-03-2023 5:17pm

Maybe Cavan had a heavy weeks training this week, who knows, getting promoted is the important thing. Didn’t get to listen on the radio, what was the problem today?

Cavan_King · 18-03-2023 5:18pm

Poor performance but I’d prefer the lads get a bit of a kick up the arse now. Antrim were always going to be hugely pumped up and looks like our lads were too complacent.

Re promotion, I still think it’d be some mess if we didn’t get promoted from here.

Bottom line is you’ve to beat Fermanagh at home to get promoted. If you can’t do that, you don’t deserve to be in Division 2 anyway.

celt262 · 18-03-2023 5:20pm

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Fermanagh beating Westmeath well at moment if it stays like that we're up with them.

Cavan_King · 18-03-2023 5:25pm

Westmeath just got two goals!!

celt262 · 18-03-2023 5:27pm

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I give up!

celt262 · 18-03-2023 5:43pm

OK I think we are promoted thanks to Fermanagh.

tanko · 18-03-2023 5:45pm

Did Fermanagh beat Offaly, if so they’re promoted also?

Cavan_King · 18-03-2023 5:45pm

Yep I think we are. Cahair O’Kane said earlier only us, Fermanagh or Offaly can be promoted now and if we lose to Fermanagh next week, we’ve Offaly on head to head.

Hammar · 18-03-2023 7:03pm

Well that was an extremely disappointing result, I wasn't there, so hard to comment too much on it, The Lads whom came on seemed to make a big difference, hopefully Gearoid,James Smith etc start against Fermanagh.

Cavan_King · 18-03-2023 7:31pm

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I listened to it on the radio but annoying that they keep skipping to other games.

Seemed like when the game was in the melting pot, the ref made a few home decisions.

Conor Madden sounded to have made his presence felt when he came on.

Paddy Lynch missed a free which would have been vital because we were four down and in the next play he scored his goal.

celt262 · 18-03-2023 9:23pm

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Radio was annoying I doubt even many in Monaghan were tuning in to listen to how there hurlers were getting on.

Through injury or for whatever reason there was to many changes in defence today and I'd hope to see McLoughlin and are two off our best players in Mcvetty and Carolan back next week. Though James Smith should have started also.

baconsarnie · 18-03-2023 9:42pm

That was a very limp display. I can’t help feeling that we thought we only had to show up to win this. Fair play to Antrim, they out-fought us for every ball & treated it like a championship match. We looked like it was a challenge game for large parts.

we also looked very leggy, I wonder did we do a lot of training in the last two weeks.

of the subs, Conor Madden looked superb, Conor Smith was lively and David Brady did well:

I’m a huge James Smith fan but he’s not fit and did very little today.

baconsarnie · 18-03-2023 9:46pm

The ref was poor and one decision was a joke. We had got back to one, Antrim were reeling and Cian Reilly had stopped an attack and was fouled and the ref inexplicably gave a free in that they tapped over and took the pressure off. It was a joke of a decision.

The disappointing thing was that Antrim swarm tackled us and made us work to get into any scoring a position, whereas they got their scores at ease. We didn’t put a glove on them.

McKenna had an interesting debut. He should have scored three goals in the first half. Not sure how he missed the one which he fisted over for a point.

baconsarnie · 18-03-2023 9:47pm

Offaly beat Fermanagh in Tullamore I think.

Cavan_King · 18-03-2023 9:53pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374393#Comment_120374393

I was disappointed to see Killian Brady & Moynagh back in. If Carolan wasn’t available, why not bring Finnegan back in?

I don’t think Moynagh is a starting player anymore and I don’t think Killian Brady should be either.

How did Cian Reilly do? McKenna? It sounded from the radio like McKenna got about but he was hooked early enough.

Look it’s disappointing but the bottom line is we’re promoted. That was the goal.

Hopefully that’s the bad performance out of our system. To be honest, things were too positive. No harm for fans and players to get a dose of reality as the serious business starts.

baconsarnie · 18-03-2023 10:05pm

Cian Reilly came into the game as it went on. I thought McKenna did well, carried the ball well and unlucky not to score a few goals. Went asleep a few times at Fermanagh kick outs but wasn’t the only one to be honest.

Given the amount of rain it was no surprise that the pitch was heavy but it seemed to be a bigger problem for our lads.

Look it, if you have one team treating it like an all Ireland final & the other team knowing they are all but promoted, it’s no surprise if there is a difference in levels of intensity. And that was the difference today. Collectively it was a very poor showing. And then we played for 12 minutes and almost snatched a win!

baconsarnie · 18-03-2023 10:06pm

Cian Reilly came into the game as it went on. I thought McKenna did well, carried the ball well and unlucky not to score a few goals. Went asleep a few times at Fermanagh kick outs but wasn’t the only one to be honest.

Given the amount of rain it was no surprise that the pitch was heavy but it seemed to be a bigger problem for our lads.

Look it, if you have one team treating it like an all Ireland final & the other team knowing they are all but promoted, it’s no surprise if there is a difference in levels of intensity. And that was the difference today. Collectively it was a very poor showing. And then we played for 12 minutes and almost snatched a win!

Cavan_King · 18-03-2023 11:07pm

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That ref decision was highlighted on the radio a lot, along with some others.

I agree with you re the need of the two teams. I am actually taking the Antrim reaction as a huge compliment. The way they and their media are reacting online, it’s like they just beat Dublin.

The reality is they’ve just had a home win against a team promoted from Division Four. It was always going to be the worst possible time to play them after the hammering they took the last day.

This may also take a bit of the media attention off Cavan and give some of our supporters a reality check - I know he reads this forum, despite his attempts to argue that he doesn’t, but when ya hear Paul Fitz saying Cavan at 4-1 ON is a good bet ya know you’re in trouble!!!

tanko · 18-03-2023 11:21pm

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Yeah Offaly won by a point and Fermanagh beat Down so that means that Down can’t get promoted even if they beat Offaly in the last game?

If Cavan beat Fermanagh and Offaly beat Down then Offaly are promoted and Fermanagh lose out?

celt262 · 18-03-2023 11:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374638#Comment_120374638

Yep

baconsarnie · 18-03-2023 11:25pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374593#Comment_120374593

I agree: it’s not doom and gloom, but a handy reminder that while this panel is definitely on the up, they can’t expect to win games at walking pace.

on good news, Oisin Brady was taking part in pre-match drills, and Martin Reilly & Oisin Kiernan doing serious work before throw in. No sign of Jason though; or Carolan.

baconsarnie · 18-03-2023 11:31pm

Correct. Big game for Offaly.

after todays performance, i would expect a reaction from us on Sunday. So Offaly have a real chance next Sunday

Cavan_King · 19-03-2023 1:02am

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Or Dara Mc I would imagine from the rumours I am hearing?

baconsarnie · 19-03-2023 1:20am

He was doing drills with Oisin and Martin. All three looking very lively.

windy shepard henderson · 19-03-2023 1:27am

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fcuk ye , i forgot ye had been promoted last week and out of range today , like half the country put ye in my acca today as a kicker at 2/9 , it seems i am the only one that got kicked out of it

your a top class side , still regard ye as division 1 , upper division 2 team but days like today need to stop , ye surly are good enough to make them changes and still win today

Cavan_King · 19-03-2023 9:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374874#Comment_120374874

I’d agree we should be but Antrim had extra incentive and hunger today - the beating we gave them in the championship last year and their hammering in the last round by Westmeath.

There’s a video doing the rounds on social media and you can see Gearoid McKiernan walking down the pouch after the final whistle and one of the Antrim lads is giving him loads even after the game has ended.

They were hugely up for it.

baconsarnie · 19-03-2023 12:11pm

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The full back (Lynch) was hanging out of Gearoid, and goading him from the minute he came on. Linesman was watching but did nothing but had no problem (correctly) flagging Moynagh’s trip for a black card. Lynch should have been carded at least for his blatant of the ball skullduggery.

One of McAntee’s team was in the stands and flew from his seat to berate the linesman for failing to spot a transgression from the Gunner in the first five minutes. Some of the fans were screaming steps before Cavan even had the ball in hand. It was like a championship game for them.

tanko · 19-03-2023 12:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374839#Comment_120374839

What rumours are these?

Blue47 · 19-03-2023 4:10pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120374869#Comment_120374869

Do you mean Mc Veety was?

KeepTheFaith · 19-03-2023 4:20pm

Losing to Antrim is damaging, even if there are mitigating circumstances. There are positives though. It was a good comeback and with some stronger refereeing we could have got a result.

There were some sub par performances from experienced players yesterday. Mickey will probably be a bit more certain about his pecking order after that.

Two games against Fermanagh now and a chance to put that Antrim game to bed and pick up some silverware before Armagh come to town.

Cavan_King · 19-03-2023 4:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120375899#Comment_120375899

I presume he does as it was Dara I had referenced. I heard a rumour he had done his hamstring and was a doubt for the Armagh game but thankfully it appears it was pub talk.

rrs · 19-03-2023 4:28pm

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Cavan are a good team but not top class. Top class would be a Kerry or Galway .

Ulster looks very average,Derry probably the most solid looking team. Tyrone beat Monaghan today but they weren't that impressive against a 13 men Monaghan.

Cavan_King · 19-03-2023 6:21pm

Division 2 next year:

Meath

Louth

Cavan

Kildare

Cork

Donegal

Monaghan (looking most probable)

Fermanagh/Offaly

dxhound2005 · 19-03-2023 6:23pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120376365#Comment_120376365

Dublin/Louth.

windy shepard henderson · 20-03-2023 1:05am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120375949#Comment_120375949

you are good enough to make division 1 , thats not far off it in fairness ,

Hammar · 20-03-2023 11:11am

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I think we are a mid division two, standard team at present to be honest, Capable of beating one or two of the division one teams on a good day, but also capable of getting beaten by very substandard teams like we did on Saturday.

rrs · 20-03-2023 11:23am

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Compared to Derry who will be Division 1 next year it's a bit off. In the last couple of years Cavan have lost to Antrim,Wicklow, scrapped past London last year in the League.

Cavan are Division 2 at best currently.

baconsarnie · 20-03-2023 11:34am

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As noted, it could be Louth or Dublin. But with no ill-will to Clare or Limerick, that wouldn't be a bad division to be in. Cork aside, no massive journeys. Possible tasty local derbies. Would be nice to get Monaghan* or Meath in Breffni for a Saturday night game.

*I know they could technically perform their last day heroics again to cheat relegation.

Hammar · 20-03-2023 11:50am

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It will be tough division next year, Cavan and probably Fermanagh, are far stronger than Limerick in my opinion, Clare are a very solid outfit whom just haven't caught any breaks in this campaign.

Potentially, Monaghan, Cavan Meath, Louth, all in the same division as you say, it will be ultra competitive, We will want to come out all guns blazing next February or we could find ourselves back in Division 3 in 2025.

baconsarnie · 20-03-2023 1:39pm

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Good man Hammar- that's the Cavan spirit. We've not even finished the 2023 season and you're planning our league campaign for 2025 😉

dxhound2005 · 20-03-2023 1:47pm

Will Cavan have to go to Cork, or could it be a home game for Cavan?

celt262 · 20-03-2023 2:08pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120379084#Comment_120379084

Come back next December or January and we will let you know.

baconsarnie · 20-03-2023 4:39pm

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If we get Cork for the opening game of the league in 2024, it will be in Cork.

It's in the rule book for the Allianz League that Cavan must play their opening games away.

rrs · 20-03-2023 4:49pm

Cork are a kind of standard Division 2 team. They are capable of beating anyone but then lose to teams they should beat. They have lots of good players but consistency always their issue.

Pairc Ui Chaoimh would be a nice ground to visit.

KeepTheFaith · 20-03-2023 5:15pm

If Louth don't achieve it this year (playing Dublin in Croke Park so unlikely they will) Cavan will have the chance next year of being the first team to go from Div 4 to Div 1 in consecutive years.

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