Hurling All-Stars 2014

deadybai wrote: »

Still dont think Canning has lived up to his hype. Him getting an All Star this year is completely out of the question. What did he do? Galways only win was against Laois in this years championship.

Not saying he should or will get an All-Star, but the most people that say he hasn't lived up to his hype are usually the least who have seen him play. Go watch him live and see how good he really is.

glasagusban wrote: »

Clearly you are a bit simple. Firstly, yes, yes it is some kind of fantasy team. Clearly. Numpty.

JJ is the best defender of modern times. Richie Mc is currently the best full back in Ireland.

Cahill was injured, that is the reason he was not on the Tipp team. Clearly you know very little about hurling.

You're hardly in a position to insult anyone else given your contribution on this thread. I'm wondering how much hurling you've ever actually seen.

Kilkenny have won every competition they've entered this season and they've won three of the last four All Ireland's. Yet apparently they only merit two players on a composite team of the best players currently playing the game. Meanwhile, the team they've beaten time and again over recent years make up half that composite team. Do you really think that makes sense? Do you honestly think Brian Cody would take half of the Tipp team in preference to his own players, given the opportunity?

You also seem to have very arbitrary reasons for including players. Seamus Callanan & John O'Dwyer are included on the strength of one good year ahead of Richie Power who has been a key player for several years and who was the most decisive forward over the two recent finals. Michael Cahill, who played little this year, and Seamus Hickey, who had a brilliant year, are both included ahead of Paul Murphy who has had three brilliant years. Padraic Maher is picked ahead of Cillian Buckley for God alone knows why! Michael Fennelly doesn't even get a mention.

glasagusban wrote: »

Do you understand the difference between best individuals and best teams?

Do you understand that between very good players personal preference plays a part? Is Ronaldo better than Messi? Are they close? Which do you prefer? Does it matter?

The reaction of Kilkenny posters to an off the cuff selection is very funny.



Actually you probably would have a stronger half back line to my fantasy team by shifting B Maher to 6 and playing Buckley instead. Or Murphy, who if prefer to fit in somewhere.

Canning is the best forward in Ireland and as touched on above is held back by virtue of playing for an inconsistent Galway. Callanan is not in his league.

Michael Fennelly is awesome at his best, but he has not been at that for quite a while now.

I understand that difference very well. I just didn't realise that Kilkenny had so many inferior players to Tipperary and that we only continually beat them due to a greater team ethic. What a plucky bunch we are!;)

I'd prefer to include both Murphy & Buckley, thanks. I certainly wouldn't have Padraic Maher in the best three half backs in the game. Liam Rushe is a better centre back while Brendan Maher is a better wing back and all round hurler.

Michael Fennelly was the most influential midfielder last Saturday. He's been curtailed by injuries the last two years. You selected Michael Cahill despite him having the same problems. I thought your whole point was to select the best team when fit!Of course personal preference plays a part. In this case your personal preference is to rule against the Kilkenny players, for different reasons each time.

Mountainlad wrote: »

Gleeson will get an all star but in my opinion he is maybe 5/6th best Goalkeeper in Ireland, Glas.

Eoin Murphy, Stephen O Keeffe, Nash (although had a poor year), Alan Nolan and probably Gary Maguire are all better.

Discount Nash. Any of the rest of them, grand.

MfMan wrote: »

Think he will also, on balance. However, the only ball from play he hit in the NHL final was the winner in the last minute, was largely quiet for the rest of the game and drove a few shots wide. Ditto, in the drawn game v Galway, it was nearly an hour before he made any contribution from play. MOTM in the replay. Leinster final 6/10, semi-final v LK, largely marked out of it. Drawn AI final very good and influential, replay sub-par. Very up-and-down would you agree?

Conor Cooney an outside bet anyone?

If I had a choice between Cooney or Canning I'd take Cooney every time. Far better hurler for GY this year.

citykat wrote: »

If I had a choice between Cooney or Canning I'd take Cooney every time. Far better hurler for GY this year.

Oh God! I wish you were managing KK!!

Here is Joe Dooley's team of the year as published on the RTE website:

GOALKEEPER: Eoin Murphy (Kilkenny)


FULL-BACK LINE: Paul Murphy (Kilkenny), JJ Delaney (Kilkenny) and Seamus Hickey (Limerick).


HALF-BACK LINE: Brendan Maher (Tipperary), Paudie Maher (Tipperary), Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny).


MIDFIELDERS: Richie Hogan (Kilkenny), Shane McGrath (Tipperary).


HALF-FORWARD LINE: John O'Dwyer (Tipperary), Patrick Maher (Tipperary), TJ Reid (Kilkenny).


FULL-FORWARD LINE: Colin Fennelly (Kilkenny), Seamus Callanan (Tipperary), Richie Power (Kilkenny).

From rte.ie:

All-Ireland champions Kilkenny lead the way in the hurling All Star nominations with no fewer than 13 Cats making the shortlist. They are followed closely by beaten finalists Tipperary, who receive 11. The remainder of the 45 places go to Limerick (7), Cork (6) Wexford (3), Dublin (2) and one apiece for Clare, Offaly and Galway.

Kilkenny's Richie Hogan and TJ Reid, along with Tipperary's Séamus Callanan, are nominated for the Hurler of the Year award. Cathal Barrett (Tipperary), Shane Dowling (Limerick) and Conor McDonald (Wexford) are up for the Young Hurler of the Year gong.

The All Stars shortlist was selected by GAA journalists and the awards for the successful 15 candidates, along with the Player of the Year awards, which are voted on by the GPA membership, will be made at the All-Star banquet on October 24 in Dublin.

2014 ALL STARS NOMINATIONS

Goalkeepers: Darren Gleeson (Tipperary), Eoin Murphy (Kilkenny), Alan Nolan (Dublin).

Full-backs: Cathal Barrett (Tipperary), JJ Delaney (Kilkenny), Séamus Hickey (Limerick), Richie McCarthy (Limerick), Stephen McDonnell (Cork), Paul Murphy (Kilkenny), Paddy Stapleton (Tipperary), Jackie Tyrrell (Kilkenny), Liam Ryan (Wexford).

Half backs: Kieran Bergin (Tipperary), Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny), Mark Ellis (Cork), Brendan Maher (Tipperary), Pádraic Maher (Tipperary), Pádraic Walsh (Kilkenny), Liam Rushe (Dublin), Lorcán McLoughlin (Cork), Wayne McNamara (Limerick).

Midfield: Paul Browne (Limerick), Lee Chin (Wexford), Richie Hogan (Kilkenny), Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny), Shane McGrath (Tipperary), James Ryan (Limerick).

Half-forwards: Noel McGrath (Tipperary), Michael Fennelly (Kilkenny), Declan Hannon (Limerick), Conor Lehane (Cork), Patrick Maher (Tipperary), John O’Dwyer (Tipperary), Eoin Larkin (Kilkenny), TJ Reid (Kilkenny), Conor Cooney (Galway).

Full-forwards: Alan Cadogan (Cork), Séamus Callanan (Tipperary), Shane Dowling (Limerick), Patrick Horgan (Cork), Conor McDonald (Wexford), Colin Fennelly (Kilkenny), Richie Power (Kilkenny), Conor McGrath (Clare), Brian Carroll (Offaly).

Player of the Year: Richie Hogan (Kilkenny), Séamus Callanan (Tipperary), TJ Reid (Kilkenny).

Young Player of the Year: Cathal Barrett (Tipperary), Shane Dowling (Limerick), Conor McDonald (Wexford).

mickmackey1 wrote: »

Prediction:

Darren Gleeson (Tipperary),
Paul Murphy (Kilkenny)
JJ Delaney (Kilkenny)
Séamus Hickey (Limerick)
Kieran Bergin (Tipperary)
Cillian Buckley (Kilkenny)
Pádraic Maher (Tipperary)
Richie Hogan (Kilkenny),
Conor Fogarty (Kilkenny)
Patrick Maher (Tipperary)
John O’Dwyer (Tipperary)
TJ Reid (Kilkenny)
Séamus Callanan (Tipperary)
Shane Dowling (Limerick)
Richie Power (Kilkenny)

7 KK
6 Tipp
2 Limk
0 Cork :eek:

Player of the Year: Richie Hogan (Kilkenny)
Young Player of the Year: Shane Dowling (Limerick)

It'll be close between Shane Dowling and Cathal Barrett for young player if the year.

Well this thread died a death but its on tonight so I said I'd resurrect it So we can all whine and argue over the selections.

The event itself is always a little stilted and awkward to me, loads of empty seats in the venue as well. Can't help thinking it wouldn't be hard to make it a more impressive event.

Realt Dearg Sec wrote: »

Jaysus someone tell Michael Lyster to take his hands out of his pockets, he's like an uncle drinking a pint at a wedding.

don't know what i was expecting but the football part was very lame .

HON THE BORO!!