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  • #152
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    norrie rugger wrote: »
    A Bicycle does not really count as it is not that fast and provides zero protection.

    Stealth is the best protection!


  • #153
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    Stealth is the best protection!

    Being out of reach and having a boom stick is the best protection.

    A bicycle is only stealthy in relation to noise, you are still on the open streets and highly visible


  • #154
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    visable but without making any noise, no noise means no attention. besides, fueling a car is a lot harder than fixing a puncture on a bicycle.


  • #155
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    visable but without making any noise, no noise means no attention. besides, fueling a car is a lot harder than fixing a puncture on a bicycle.

    What about storage/shelter/protection (when you are spotted)/Long range mobility/Speed/Offence?


  • #156
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    norrie rugger wrote: »
    What about storage/shelter/protection (when you are spotted)/Long range mobility/Speed/Offence?

    storage? backpack, sellotape stuff on the bike.
    shelter - dont need any on a bike, it's lightweight enough to throw over a wall while you make a dash for a treehouse.
    protection - stealth: avoiding a confrontation is twice the armor you're ever going to need.
    long range mobility - your body is your fuel, travel as much or as little as you want without raising much attention. 2 minutes cycling at an easy pace is enough to take you out of earshot, nevermind sight. The perfect reconnaissance vehicle.

    speed - whatever you can handle yourself. You dont need a ferrari to escape from a zombie(s) you just cycle off.

    Offence: ever been hit with a ulock? if you want an offensive vehicle, get a tank.

    imo, the bicycle is the vehicle of choice for the zombie apocalypse.


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  • #157
    magnumbud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    would have to say i dont think bike is that great if your surrounded you cant exactly push your way through and are doomed i tells ya


  • #158
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    magnumbud wrote: »
    would have to say i dont think bike is that great if your surrounded you cant exactly push your way through and are doomed i tells ya

    If you cycle into a crowd of zombies and get surrounded, you deserve to die!


  • #159
    magnumbud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    If you cycle into a crowd of zombies and get surrounded, you deserve to die!

    ha not what i meant i mean you go into a shop to get supplies you come back and the street is now over run. if you have a car/truck/tank you can make a run for it and try to get into the vehicle. if you only have a bike outside you are stuck


  • #160
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    lol i know :) same can be said for a car/van/tank, if the street is that packed you're boned and need a helicopter on the roof :)

    and you should have done some bike recon first instead of just driving up to the shop and stealing those mannequins!


  • #161
    magnumbud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    lol i know :) same can be said for a car/van/tank, if the street is that packed you're boned and need a helicopter on the roof :)

    and you should have done some bike recon first instead of just driving up to the shop and stealing those mannequins!

    no if you get into the vehicle all you have to do is mow down the crowd of zombies


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  • #162
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    magnumbud wrote: »
    no if you get into the vehicle all you have to do is mow down the crowd of zombies

    if the crowd is so large you cant get through it on a bike, a car wont get much further either. Unless you've a snowplough on the front of it.


  • #163
    magnumbud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    if the crowd is so large you cant get through it on a bike, a car wont get much further either. Unless you've a snowplough on the front of it.

    ya but the cant bite through class. also i would have put up so metal meshes around windows. alot safer in the car than in the shop


  • #164
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    storage? backpack, sellotape stuff on the bike.
    shelter - dont need any on a bike, it's lightweight enough to throw over a wall while you make a dash for a treehouse.
    protection - stealth: avoiding a confrontation is twice the armor you're ever going to need.
    long range mobility - your body is your fuel, travel as much or as little as you want without raising much attention. 2 minutes cycling at an easy pace is enough to take you out of earshot, nevermind sight. The perfect reconnaissance vehicle.

    speed - whatever you can handle yourself. You dont need a ferrari to escape from a zombie(s) you just cycle off.

    Offence: ever been hit with a ulock? if you want an offensive vehicle, get a tank.

    imo, the bicycle is the vehicle of choice for the zombie apocalypse.


    Oh I would have a bike too but it would be strapped to my truck/Dreadnaught
    degrassinoel wrote: »
    if the crowd is so large you cant get through it on a bike, a car wont get much further either. Unless you've a snowplough on the front of it.

    Kind sir, may I direct you to
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=80286513&postcount=138


  • #165
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    norrie rugger wrote: »
    Oh I would have a bike too but it would be strapped to my truck/Dreadnaught

    lol :)


  • #166
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    magnumbud wrote: »
    ya but the cant bite through class. also i would have put up so metal meshes around windows. alot safer in the car than in the shop

    I beg to differ :)

    From the set of WWZ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma8l5udOlvc


  • #167
    magnumbud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    I beg to differ :)

    From the set of WWZ

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma8l5udOlvc

    he was stupid enough to get out. and didnt break the glass as a zombie :-P


  • #168
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    magnumbud wrote: »
    he was stupid enough to get out. and didnt break the glass as a zombie :-P

    doesnt look like that to me.


  • #169
    magnumbud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    doesnt look like that to me.

    didnt see your one jump through the window. still im fairly certain this is a once off and the zombies of my world are the slow stumbling kind not the kind that can run and jump


  • #170
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    that's nice, kind of negates your point about being trapped by zombies in that shop though..


  • #171
    magnumbud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    that's nice, kind of negates your point about being trapped by zombies in that shop though..
    How? slow moving zombies were trapping people in places a long long time before running zombies started appearing in movies. all the original of the deads for example. resident evil games etc all slow moving zombies well capable of trapping you in a shop with no escape if all you have is a ****ty bike


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  • #172
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    And we're going miles off topic here again. In fact, this is a discussion best suited to it's own topic.

    Bikes are better than cars :)


  • #173
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    And we're going miles off topic here again. In fact, this is a discussion best suited to it's own topic.

    Bikes are better than cars :)

    Twist your ankle and tell me that


  • #174
    magnumbud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,531 ✭✭✭magnumbud


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    And we're going miles off topic here again. In fact, this is a discussion best suited to it's own topic.

    Bikes are better than cars :)

    changing the subject as good as admitting defeat :-)


  • #175
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    magnumbud wrote: »
    changing the subject as good as admitting defeat :-)

    Stay on topic please. You were asked once already. Please read the forum charter.


    Edit: Norrie Rugger, multiquoted you meaning to respond to your question but was sidetracked. Yeah, twisted ankle, can still cycle, obviously not as well as one could drive with a broken wrist, but it's possible.


  • #176
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    Edit: Norrie Rugger, multiquoted you meaning to respond to your question but was sidetracked. Yeah, twisted ankle, can still cycle, obviously not as well as one could drive with a broken wrist, but it's possible.

    OK I make you a deal.
    I will have my dreadnaught and you have the bike, that is strapped to the side of it. You run supply runs and, if you come into trouble and have the Z's chasing you, then you make a direct line to the truck where we will be waiting with the heavy weapons to provide cover.

    Best of both worlds.

    We prepared boardsies will have to look out for one another, in the aftermath.


  • #177
    Remmy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Remmy


    I would go for an early nineties Izuzu trooper diesel. Every second farmer seems to have one where I'm from so an easy supply of available parts should not be an issue. Plus as mentioned there are plenty diesel tanks littered around the countryside if needs be.

    Strapped onto the side I would have one or two cheapie bicycles. Should the 4x4 cease to function or should I need more stealth I would kick it vietcong style and pack all my supplies on a bicycle and keep truckin on. ;)

    BicycleSuppliesTrail.jpg


  • #178
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,071 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    sell26.2 wrote: »
    petrol shouldn't be a problem at all. think of all the unused cars lying about. just syphon the petrol out of unused cars. there would be unlimited supplies of petrol all over the place. you could drive around with a 50 ton tank and never worry about fuel problems. plus a daily fuel search and retrieval would break up the general monotony of day to day living under the invasion

    EXCEPT petrol and diesel have very short "shelf life" before they start to go bad.In some cases less than a year.Not surprising,as they are designed to be used pretty quickly so wht add extra long term storage chemicals??
    Ever leave petrol in a lawn mower over Winter and have to drain the tank in Spring because the thing wont start and the fuel looks waxy and pale??
    Stale petrol..Soo all your fuel be it in underground tanks in garages ,or in car tanks will eventually go bad.
    Unless you get a good supply out and treat it with fuel stabiliser before Z day,your "Road warrior" plans of survival arent going to last long..:(

    Syphoning it out of cars...Has anyone TRIED this recently on a new model car[post 1996]?? It is virtually impossible to do anymore with all the safety features built into modern cars like anti roll spillage valves and anti SYPHON devices:D
    Unless you are lugging around some garage equipment,this is going to be a bit of a non option..Sorry!

    Might be worth considering four hooves rather than two or four wheels instead.
    A Horse or a "Harse" is usually available around the Irish city and countryside,they can carry a fair ol load,pul a cart or plough at later stages if trained to it.Dont need much fuel apart from grass,some oats and water ,are alot faster than Zs,can reproduce once a year,and when they are too old they make a tasty dinner..[Ask the French!:pac:]

    Drawbacks,they can be smelly and dangerous at both ends and uncomfortable in the middle.So you do need to have some experiance of handling them and treating them with RESPECT.[Useful post Z event skill maybe,learn how to ride a horse..Doesnt have to be to RDS show jumping standard]
    Need to have some tack,like a saddle and bits and bridle,although you can learn to ride bareback,and improvise a halter from some old rope.

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • #179
    thermo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,439 ✭✭✭✭thermo


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »

    Syphoning it out of cars...Has anyone TRIED this recently on a new model car[post 1996]?? It is virtually impossible to do anymore with all the safety features built into modern cars like anti roll spillage valves and anti SYPHON devices:D
    Unless you are lugging around some garage equipment,this is going to be a bit of a non option..Sorry!

    yep, only last week, i found the handiest way was to lift the back seat and remove the fuel level sensor 2 mins or less work to remove and i only needed 10mm and 12mm spanners to remove the sensor.


  • #180
    Tzar Chasm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,069 ✭✭✭Tzar Chasm


    Even easier way if you don't intend to use the donor car again is to just slide under it and punch a hole in the tank ;)


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  • #181
    RiderOnTheStorm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭RiderOnTheStorm


    always liked the look of the Unimog, and a recent post in the Campervan thread (a couple are touring S.America in a converted Unimog http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056793283 ) renewed my interest in them, from a Zombie Apoc point of view.

    unimog1.jpgunimog2.jpg


    Follow this link to see Unimogs (campers & explorer versions) for sale :

    http://www.xor.org.uk/unimog/uksell/uksold.htm


  • #182
    Kromdar
    Registered Users Posts: 783 ✭✭✭Kromdar


    wow. some of those trucks. i mean, the blue DAF one, wow.
    and here's me pining after that ZIL [or whatever it is] they have in trinity college...


  • #183
    Chewabacca
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 367 ✭✭Chewabacca


    Realistically I reckon this would be a good choice. Rugged enough to stand up to bad roads and surfaces. Won't get through the really tough stuff but still a much better option than a big truck because fuel would be scarce and this will do up to 50mpg.



  • #184
    the culture of deference
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,196 ✭✭✭the culture of deference


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  • #185
    silentrust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭silentrust


    the culture of deference wrote: »
    Combine-3_1704422c.jpg

    Out of interest where are people planning to go in these vehicles? I think I'll stay put, batten down the hatches and grow my pumpkins thank you. :-)


  • #186
    Draper666
    Registered Users Posts: 38 ✭Draper666


    I would not last long but a horse would be epic . With armour of course


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  • #187
    silentrust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭silentrust


    Draper666 wrote: »
    I would not last long but a horse would be epic . With armour of course

    Actually I'd bet good money that you'd last longer with a horse than someone in an armoured Humvee - you'll certainly fuelling your vehicle easier! :)


  • #188
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    Except your vehicle is now also Zombie food and easily spooked. Spare parts would also not be an option


  • #189
    silentrust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭silentrust


    norrie rugger wrote: »
    Except your vehicle is now also Zombie food and easily spooked. Spare parts would also not be an option

    In the kind of scenario we're talking about, if you're driving a motor vehicle, spare parts are the least of your worries. You'd most probably run out of petrol before you wore through it, leaving you with a very expensive metal box which will take you nowhere.

    I suppose in theory you could run a car on Biodiesel but it'd be a hell of a job refining that much vegetable oil from crops when you could be using the same farmland to grow food instead - sadly there won't be any more chippies around the corner who can donate their used stuff. Finding a convenient patch of grass for your horsie to feast on by comparison would be appreciably easier.

    Naturally spare parts could be a problem if your horse was injured but we've been raising and maintaining these kind of vehicles a lot longer than we have automobiles.

    I think before we talk about vehicles we should probably think about where we'd go in them - speaking personally I am trying to improve my garden to allow my family and I to stay put come the T Virus rather than jumping into a jeep and heading for the woods (along with millions of other people who have had the same idea). Time will tell which strategy is the best! :-)


  • #190
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    With some of the larger vehicles posted here, they are mobile fortresses. Should they breakdown or run out of fuel they are then stationary fortress (or if you come across an area that you wish to camp up in).

    I would be staying put also (as I have a garden large enough to grow a lot of food and a boundary that is easy to somewhat fortify) but not everyone has this luxury.


  • #191
    silentrust
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭silentrust


    norrie rugger wrote: »
    With some of the larger vehicles posted here, they are mobile fortresses. Should they breakdown or run out of fuel they are then stationary fortress (or if you come across an area that you wish to camp up in).

    I would be staying put also (as I have a garden large enough to grow a lot of food and a boundary that is easy to somewhat fortify) but not everyone has this luxury.

    I have been following "Urban Green Survival" on Youtube - even if you live in the inner city as I do, it's actually surprising how much food you can grow. I admit my partner and I aren't at a point yet where we can grow all the veg we need but we hope to be self sufficient one day - as with all survival plans, now is the time to start!

    What concerns me about these mobile/immobile impregnable fortresses is the fact that not much thought seems to have been put into long term survival as I said. If it's a way to get to your "cabin in the woods" complete with garden and so on, so much the better - I suppose I would just be worried by the time I got there it'd be overrun.

    Have you read the post apocalyptic story "Wolf and Iron" incidentally? That involves a travelling caravan (actually an armoured SUV), which is drawn by a team of horses - the family living inside are able to get what they need by being travelling traders, mostly trading tools and low value cooking utensils in exchange for the food they need. What I liked about the story was that they had solar panels on the roof in order to have hot water for washing/shaving. :-D


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  • #192
    bushball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭bushball


    http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00zeETGZQBTRqr/Ride-On-Lawn-Mower-12hp-400cc-LV012H-.jpg
    a zombie apocalypse is no excuse for an untidy garden


  • #193
    ScumLord
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    If you could learn to sleep on your horse it could keep you safe from zombies. Whatever about catching humans, a zombie has little chance of catching a horse.


  • #194
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Not so sure about that, ye might need two horses, one to rest while the other is carrying you. Bodyweight and horse size and breed would be major factors too

    Would be awesome having a big Clydesdale for the apocalyspe though


  • #195
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    norrie rugger wrote: »
    Except your vehicle is now also Zombie food and easily spooked. Spare parts would also not be an option

    i don't know about your experiences but I've seen horses that don't spook at anything. Its all in the training


  • #196
    laoch na mona
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,966 ✭✭✭laoch na mona


    degrassinoel wrote: »
    Not so sure about that, ye might need two horses, one to rest while the other is carrying you. Bodyweight and horse size and breed would be major factors too

    Would be awesome having a big Clydesdale for the apocalyspe though

    depends what you want the horse to do a clydsdale will pull all day (good if you need a plow horse) or plod along with you on its back but for long ride where you need a fair bit of speed and able to rest without fully stopping id go for an arab.


  • #197
    degrassinoel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,751 ✭✭✭✭degrassinoel


    Clydesdale for me, cant beat a good ol' workhorse. Multifunctional role, tough as old coffin nails and looks awesome. Besides, arabian horses are far too pretty for the apocalypse, even if they are more awesome for endurance.

    it's like a choice between a tractor or a ferrari, but i'd still take the tractor :)


  • #198
    loveisdivine
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭loveisdivine


    I work about 5 minutes from home so in reality we would probably grab our own car and use that to get to a safe zone, with push bike on the bike rack. Then I can use the bike for smaller runs to and from the safe zone.


  • #199
    Micky Dolenz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,080 ✭✭✭✭Micky Dolenz


    Bicycle is good. Horse is ok too. Bit loud though and needs constant maintance. I would not be overly concerned about being spooked. Most if not all broke horses are familiar with noise and people. Think winners enclosure at horse races.

    Best form of transport is legs though, stay local, stay safe. If you venture into unknown territory, tank or not. You enter a world of grief.


  • #200
    bushball
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 709 ✭✭✭bushball


    what about forklift, not the small ones but the big jcb ones, if you had a group and you were moving out convoy style they would be in valuable as they could clear the roads and crush zed in your way, not the best for gas consumption though


  • #201
    ScumLord
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    Micky Dolenz wrote: »
    Bicycle is good. Horse is ok too. Bit loud though and needs constant maintance.
    Horses could probably go wild easily enough and their maintenance requirements would be pretty low being a herbivore. The only reason race horses require a lot of work is because their being managed to be at peak performance for the race in the same way a human athlete would. That would include making sure they don't over train at the right time coming up to a race.
    bushball wrote: »
    what about forklift, not the small ones but the big jcb ones, if you had a group and you were moving out convoy style they would be in valuable as they could clear the roads and crush zed in your way, not the best for gas consumption though
    They'd be fairly uncomfortable on road and they're probably not designed for long periods of driving. On a building site they do a lot of very short runs back and over.


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