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NTA to Close Sligo, Waterford, Wexford & Galway Rail Passenger Services (Speculation)

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  • #32
    Aard
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,905 ✭✭✭Aard


    LivelineDipso wrote: »
    dozens of towns to have their stations closed too.

    This is more likely than wholesale closures of lines imo.


  • #33
    strassenwo!f
    Registered Users Posts: 1,512 ✭✭✭strassenwo!f


    Ah, so it sounds from the thread title like they're planning to keep the Rosslare - Wexford bit open.

    Future passengers on the ferry from Fishguard will thus still be able to partake in one of the time-honoured traditions of railway service in Ireland, which is watching the train depart just as the ferry gets in.


  • #34
    Markcheese
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,557 ✭✭✭Markcheese


    "it does, the fact a bus, yes thats right a bus, is faster then a train on some routes says it all, it says irish rail and the government didn't do enough to improve speeds, the railway could offer speeds that a bus could never offer if it got the right investment on the right things, sure having the youngest fleet in europe is all fine and dandy but if its crawling around the place at speeds slower then when the railway opened then it isn't good enough"
    I dunno , I think that mainly the whole speed thing is a red herring .... It's price and timetableing that affects a lot of people , and to be fair to IR their timetable has got way better..(cork-Dublin anyway)...20 mins extra (in comfort wouldnt) put me off,
    Rail does point to point mass transit, we don't really have mass population....

    Slava ukraini 🇺🇦



  • #35
    kingshankly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭kingshankly


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Not an ardent IE/CIE supporter, but the word that springs to mind for anyone seriously contributing to this thread is gullible.

    Thanks for your contribution


  • #36
    Cookie_Monster
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,522 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    One thing that will happen is DART freq will be cut from 15 min service to 30 min service before any intercity route closes. So ask your friends within IE or the NTA when this will be happening.
    why would that be? Does the DART not make more than any other route, it's the busiest by a country mile and should be the last remaining line viableif it came to it.
    Markcheese wrote: »
    It's the same story as always , if it's not used enough it'll be axed ...
    I know iarnrod eireann aren't the most efficent company in the world but does anyone think a private crowd could actually make it work??
    A coach with 50 -70 seats is cheaper,faster ,more flexible...
    Says it all really ... It'd be great if someone could find a role for rail in Ireland ... But what....
    intercity is ideal, the NTA shouldn't be allowing bus and rail to compete side by side, it's a monumental waste of resources and energy. buses should be feeding the trains that cover long distance routes. But that will never change as there is no will to tackle this kind of waste against some minor flexibility costs.


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  • #37
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    strassenwo!f wrote: »
    Ah, so it sounds from the thread title like they're planning to keep the Rosslare - Wexford bit open.

    Future passengers on the ferry from Fishguard will thus still be able to partake in one of the time-honoured traditions of railway service in Ireland, which is watching the train depart just as the ferry gets in.

    the Wexford line no doubt is implied in the title.


  • #38
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    why would that be? Does the DART not make more than any other route, it's the busiest by a country mile and should be the last remaining line viableif it came to it.


    intercity is ideal, the NTA shouldn't be allowing bus and rail to compete side by side, it's a monumental waste of resources and energy. buses should be feeding the trains that cover long distance routes. But that will never change as there is no will to tackle this kind of waste against some minor flexibility costs.

    But isn't that what this list implies?
    With the exception of Cork and Belfast,The intention would be to leave Rail dealing with the bits not so far served by Motorways.

    The Westport line will remain, therefore there will be Railhead in Athlone for Galway passengers to change mode

    Wexford passengers can change on to the Dart at some point from their buses.

    Sligo passengers will have railhead somewhere like Maynooth.

    But in reality once people are off the train on to the road , they wont want to change during the journey and road will get them all.

    And what of the future? When the M21 is built to Tralee, will the Kerry line be closed?

    No, I can't see such a (Plan, rumour, scheme ,call it what you will) working. We need to retain the main lines to Galway and Waterford at the very least. SOme of the local lines and no doubt a few stations could be closed without too much hardship but closing Main Lines down to Cities is a step too far.


  • #39
    corktina
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17,733 ✭✭✭✭corktina


    Jamie2k9 wrote: »
    It's amazing how many people have "friends" who work for IE, NTA or whoever related to trains there is.

    Only a few weeks ago the CEO of IE commented how well the Galway line is doing however there is one problem that they are trying to improve and that's journey time.

    Just a comment on the Westport route, the IE CEO also said it has being preforming very well and only had a service increase a few months ago.

    Of course the CEO of IE would have all his facts wrong and the friend within the NTA would be 100% correct!.

    One thing that will happen is DART freq will be cut from 15 min service to 30 min service before any intercity route closes. So ask your friends within IE or the NTA when this will be happening.

    the Westport line is not on the hit-list


  • #40
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Waterford to limerick would be no loss as the requirement to change at Limerick Junction makes it just as easy to get the bus
    Messing with Waterford to Dublin would be a disaster. It's half an hour quicker than the bus and a hell of alot more pleasant of a Journey.
    The Route to Rosslare has already been scrapped, and while it has been replaced by a New Bus route, it's not exactly the same so some rural communities have been wiped off the map.
    It really is shameful how under utilised railways are in this country.


  • #41
    monument
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 14,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭monument


    Grandeeod wrote: »
    Not an ardent IE/CIE supporter, but the word that springs to mind for anyone seriously contributing to this thread is gullible.

    Don't bother posting on the thread again -- not a request.

    For everybody else: Any further attacks on poster will recive an infraction.


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  • #42
    BuffyBot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,924 ✭✭✭✭BuffyBot


    Closing this pending further review.


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