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Tour de France Stage 5 – July 9th, Ypres - Arenberg **Unmasked Spoilers**

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  • #152
    letape
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    Peter Sagan
    Ormus wrote: »
    Why would he be grinning? He hasn't put in the effort to get on the team. Would he really want all his teammates to fail?

    He was in great form and had recently won the tour of California. It was widely expected that he would be in the tour team.

    He wouldn't want all his team mates to fail - but perhaps just the one.


  • #153
    MPFG
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    Alexander Kristoff
    Sky made a major mistake IMO not bringing Wiggo.......it seems like the Gods were against them becasue everyone was saying 'what if Froome crashes' and he did


  • #154
    lennymc
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    It's always sad to see a rider abandon any race, nevermind the biggest race in the world. What a pity. I was really looking forward to the Contador/Froome mountain stages.


  • #155
    A_Sober_Paddy
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    If wiggo is fit, why wouldn't you bring him?

    It makes no sense, unless he wasn't happy riding for froome


  • #156
    2smiggy
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    Alejandro Valverde
    Carlton half wishing Contador back luck there! He is disgusted


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  • #157
    mikeyjames9
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 700 ✭✭✭mikeyjames9


    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    If wiggo is fit, why wouldn't you bring him?

    It makes no sense, unless he wasn't happy riding for froome

    froome didn't want him either

    so it was a non-runner


  • #158
    2smiggy
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    Alejandro Valverde
    A_Sober_Paddy wrote: »
    If wiggo is fit, why wouldn't you bring him?

    It makes no sense, unless he wasn't happy riding for froome

    Froome did not want him, or that's the story anyway


  • #159
    DominoDub
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    Peter Sagan
    How much is this down to Froome's alleged poor bike handling skills ?


  • #160
    velo.2010
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    Contador struggling or taking it handy?


  • #161
    MPFG
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    Alexander Kristoff
    Nibbles looking to make time I think


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  • #162
    2smiggy
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    Alejandro Valverde
    DominoDub wrote: »
    How much is this down to Froome's alleged poor bike handling skills ?

    He rides with his head down a bit too much, no doubt that has to lead to greater chances of crashing


  • #163
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    Nibali's got a pretty good gap over Contador, he should capitalize


  • #164
    godtabh
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    MPFG wrote: »
    Sky made a major mistake IMO not bringing Wiggo.......it seems like the Gods were against them becasue everyone was saying 'what if Froome crashes' and he did

    repeatedly


  • #165
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    DominoDub wrote: »
    How much is this down to Froome's alleged poor bike handling skills ?

    I would say it's heavily down to that. He couldn't have done anything about his crash yesterday which was also decisive, but I think a better bike-rider wouldn't have crashed the way he did today.


  • #166
    ThisRegard
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    velo.2010 wrote: »
    Contador struggling or taking it handy?

    I'd say he's just ensuring he finishes the stage without issue.


  • #167
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    31 seconds between Nibali and Contador


  • #168
    DDC1990
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    Greg Van Avermaet
    Lotto and Astana going to come to blows if Astana continue to be lazy :P


  • #169
    velo.2010
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    So, how much time can Contador afford to lose to Nibali? The way its looking with five sections still to go, he could lose 5mins plus here.


  • #170
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    Gap is growing, Sagan/Nibali group have about 45 seconds over Contador who now has 3 team-mates


  • #171
    DDC1990
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    Greg Van Avermaet
    Lotto guy who was arguing with Astana goes over the handlebars.


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  • #172
    dastardly00
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    Peter Sagan
    A nice soft landing there! :D


  • #173
    marvin80
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    Andre Greipel
    @PelotonWatch

    #TdF Break has 42" to Nibali and 1'28" to Contador.


  • #174
    couerdelion
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    Peter Sagan
    Nibali in trouble and we cut to an ad break :eek:


  • #175
    Dermot Illogical
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    John Degenkolb
    Oh look! Nibali in trouble...let's cut to ad break!


  • #176
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    This is absolute chaos, but Belkin are in an excellent position. Boom, Vanmarcke have just powered off the front of what was the yellow jersey group. Ten Dam and Mollema not too far behind.

    About 45 seconds between Contador and Nibali. Nibali looking much more comfortable on the cobbles, but he has just had to put a foot on the ground when his team-mate fell down in front of him. Possibly the most difficult pave section up next, anything could happen


  • #177
    fishfoodie
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    Darkglasses wrote: »
    I would say it's heavily down to that. He couldn't have done anything about his crash yesterday which was also decisive, but I think a better bike-rider wouldn't have crashed the way he did today.

    I think he isn't smart enough about where he places himself on the road & where he has his guys around him, so that they can shepard him around.


  • #178
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    Jesus Contador must be going backwards, gap is still growing


  • #179
    Paddigol
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    John Degenkolb
    Darkglasses wrote: »
    Jesus Contador must be going backwards, gap is still growing

    Where are his team? Does he have anyone around him?


  • #180
    retalivity
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    Greg Van Avermaet
    hehe the letour site actually has contador's group listed as 'stragglers'


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  • #181
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    Leaders -> VanMarcke/Boom (17 seconds) -> Nibali/Cancellara group (26 seconds) -> Contador group (1'19) (Peloton)

    Best guess of the situation right now


  • #182
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    Paddigol wrote: »
    Where are his team? Does he have anyone around him?

    Yes he has 4 riders around him at least


  • #183
    death1234567
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    Andre Greipel
    Darkglasses wrote: »
    Jesus Contador must be going backwards, gap is still growing
    Movistar there to help with the chase now.


  • #184
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    Nibali group has caught Vanmarcke/Boom


  • #185
    curiouscycles
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    Chris Froome
    4 sections of cobblestone still left. It's going to be a great finish.


  • #186
    mistermatthew
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    Peter Sagan
    What happened cancellara?


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  • #187
    Ormus
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    John Degenkolb
    letape wrote: »
    He was in great form and had recently won the tour of California. It was widely expected that he would be in the tour team.

    He wouldn't want all his team mates to fail - but perhaps just the one.

    Does he have much experience as a domestique?

    Is it normal to bring a reserve team leader who isn't a noted domestique and doesn't like the team leader and isn't liked by the team leader?

    He finished 32nd in Tour of Flanders and 9th in Paris Roubaix, before beating a second class field in California.


  • #188
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    There's now 4 OPQS riders in the Nibali group??

    Tony Martin dropped back from the break, not sure who the other three are!


  • #189
    death1234567
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    Andre Greipel
    mistermatthew wrote: »
    What happened cancellara?
    Nothing, he's in the Nibali group.


  • #190
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    mistermatthew wrote: »
    What happened cancellara?

    He's with Nibali, happy as Larry I'd say.


  • #191
    fishfoodie
    Registered Users Posts: 564 ✭✭✭fishfoodie


    Remember when the 1st week of the tour was a boring ould plod until you hit the first hills :D:D:D


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  • #192
    retalivity
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    Greg Van Avermaet
    jaysus nibali has really landed on his arse as the only gc guy in a that group of specialists

    Kwiatowski is in there...how the hell did he get back after being off the back?


  • #193
    Darkglasses
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    Michal Kwiatkowski
    Darkglasses wrote: »
    There's now 4 OPQS riders in the Nibali group??

    Tony Martin dropped back from the break, not sure who the other three are!

    Martin, Renshaw, Trentin and Kwiato I think


  • #194
    xxyyzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,213 ✭✭✭xxyyzz


    Carlton Kirby is very dramatic. He couldn't hack commenting on a XC MTB race at all.


  • #195
    sheepfield
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    Sagan for victory, bar a fall.., :)

    What a day. And what a ride by Nibali


  • #196
    velo.2010
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    Well its official! Nibali is a cobble specialist..... some bike rider.


  • #197
    dastardly00
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    Peter Sagan
    Nibbles to win Paris-Roubaix next year :D


  • #198
    2smiggy
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    Alejandro Valverde
    With Froome gone, it would be nice for Nibili to have a few minutes on Contador ahead of the mountains


  • #199
    curiouscycles
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    Chris Froome
    First Group with 18km to go: Nibali, Fuglsang, Westra (Astana), Sagan (Cannondale), Boom, Vanmarcke (Belkin), Kwiatkowski, Renshaw, Trentin (OPQS), Gallopin (Lotto), Cancellara (Trek), Lemoine (Cofidis), Clarke, Hayman and Keukeleire (Orica).


  • #200
    Inquitus
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    Peter Sagan
    Have to think that with Froome out Contador won't mind shipping a minute to Nibali, unless Porte has his best form, all Contador has to do to win the tour is stay upright, you'd think!

    Edit: Latest time check 1:53! 3 minutes would make it real interesting!


  • #201
    death1234567
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    Andre Greipel
    Shocking that Saxo and Movistar can't pull any time back and are losing so much time.


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