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Influential Woman of the week..

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  • #52
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Thaedydal wrote: »
    Two of mine.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Paul

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmeline_Pankhurst

    With out these two women and those who supported them women would not be able to vote, one did so in Britain and the other in the USA.

    Both were imprisoned for demonstrating, went on hunger strike and were force feed and suffered other humiliations.

    They were called iron jawed angels.

    http://www.hbo.com/films/ironjawedangels/

    First of all, I would have thought that Mary Wollostonecraft did more for women's suffrage than Emmeline Pankhurst because Wollostonecraft was the first significant thinker to argue for women's suffrage whereas Pankhurst was just a radical who threw herself in front of the english king's horse.

    Second of all, while I've never heard of Alice Paul, surely Woodrow Wilson is misrepresented in that article in that it suggests that he bowed to political pressure from the suffragettes. Is it not farer to say that women's suffrage was granted as a cynical political ploy on his part to increase the democratic vote? Not exactly a noble motivation I know, but in terms of American politics the suffragettes played a very small role.

    Finally, what do those two videos have to do with Pankhurst?


  • #53
    johnnyskeleton
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 14,535 Mod ✭✭✭✭johnnyskeleton


    Jules wrote: »
    How about our 7th President - Mary Robinson...

    I'll know what i think of her and what she did for women of this country, this country in general and also in her role as UN High Commissioner for Human Rights.

    So what do you guys think of her as a woman of influence?

    This post seems to have gone unanswered for a whole year, which is a shame.

    Mary Robinson is a great person and did more for Ireland than any other president. However, because she advocated human rights as opposed to women's rights, she seems to have been sadly overlooked on this forum.


  • #54
    Jules
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,756 ✭✭✭Jules


    yes she is an advocate for human rights but initally she did a lot of womens rights in this country. And this being a forum aimed mainly at women thats what i have focused on.


  • #55
    Crumble Froo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,196 ✭✭✭Crumble Froo


    what about countess marcievicz? man i hate attempting to spell that one, but she was a pretty interesting chick. never studied her specifically, but did do my history special topic during her era, and she did prop up again. seemed to have been a very opinionated, educated, strong woman. fought for what she believed in. might not have specifically been women's rights, but certainly put herslef out there for her ideals, and her political and social beliefs.


  • #56
    brianthebard
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,165 ✭✭✭✭brianthebard


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »

    Second of all, while I've never heard of Alice Paul, surely Woodrow Wilson is misrepresented in that article in that it suggests that he bowed to political pressure from the suffragettes. Is it not farer to say that women's suffrage was granted as a cynical political ploy on his part to increase the democratic vote? Not exactly a noble motivation I know, but in terms of American politics the suffragettes played a very small role.

    No politician wants to increase the franchise. Besides why do you assume that women would vote Democratic?


  • #57
    tallaght01
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭tallaght01


    Mary Harney FTW :D


  • #58
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    Crumble Froo wrote: »
    what about countess marcievicz? man i hate attempting to spell that one, but she was a pretty interesting chick. never studied her specifically, but did do my history special topic during her era, and she did prop up again. seemed to have been a very opinionated, educated, strong woman. fought for what she believed in. might not have specifically been women's rights, but certainly put herslef out there for her ideals, and her political and social beliefs.

    Countess Markiewicz FTW

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constance_Markiewicz
    Constance Georgine Markiewicz, Countess Markiewicz (née Gore-Booth; 4 February 1868 – 15 July 1927), was an Irish Sinn Féin and Fianna Fáil politician, revolutionary nationalist and suffragette. She was the first woman elected to the British House of Commons, though she did not take her seat and along with the other Sinn Féin TDs formed the first Dáil Éireann. She was also the first woman in Europe to hold a cabinet position (Minister of Labour of the Irish Republic, 1919–1922).


  • #59
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    First of all, I would have thought that Mary Wollostonecraft did more for women's suffrage than Emmeline Pankhurst because Wollostonecraft was the first significant thinker to argue for women's suffrage whereas Pankhurst was just a radical who threw herself in front of the english king's horse.

    The thread is for posters to post about women they think made a difference and inspired them.
    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Second of all, while I've never heard of Alice Paul,

    Maybe you shoudl do some reading so
    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    surely Woodrow Wilson is misrepresented in that article in that it suggests that he bowed to political pressure from the suffragettes. Is it not farer to say that women's suffrage was granted as a cynical political ploy on his part to increase the democratic vote? Not exactly a noble motivation I know, but in terms of American politics the suffragettes played a very small role.

    Actually the political opinion only shifted in favour of the suffragettes after it came out the horrendous conditions that the women who were unconstitutionally arrested also post world war 1 russia and germany had given women the vote and those two combined made Wilson give in.
    johnnyskeleton wrote: »
    Finally, what do those two videos have to do with Pankhurst?

    There hasn't be a film made about suffrage in Britain but Pankhurt was also arrested, went on hunger strike and was force feed.


  • #60
    Nevyn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,045 ✭✭✭✭Nevyn


    tallaght01 wrote: »
    Mary Harney FTW :D

    While I can not ignore her historic place as woman who was party leader and the first to be An Tánaiste I don't have a lot of time for her personally or her politics.


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  • #61
    stovelid
    Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    Any votes for the two Rosas: Rosa Luxembourg and Rosa Parks yet?


  • #62
    Stheno
    Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,688 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    BBC news magazine do a regular "Valley Girls" feature on influential women in the technology sector e.g. Padma Warrior of Cisco

    As I work in IT I find the articles interesting to read.


  • #63
    panda100
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    The person who I admire most this week is Pamela Izevbekhai,a Nigerian women who fled to Ireland in order to protect the lives of her family.

    Her first daughter,Elizabeth, bled to death in 2005 following a FGM procedure. To protect her other two daughters, Jemima and Naomi, she fled to Ireland.However, her and her family face deportation any day now,with her two daughters facing almost certain FGM and Pamela, probably worse, If she returns to Nigeria.
    I have great admiration for this articulate and loving women who endangers her life more and more each day as she speaks out to try and save the lives of her two daughters.

    This is a short documentary on her: *WARNING: While there are no disturbing images, the descriptions of FGM are not pleasant:* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yk_me_60NQ


  • #64
    EamonnKeane
    Closed Accounts Posts: 950 ✭✭✭EamonnKeane


    panda100 wrote: »
    The person who I admire most this week is Pamela Izevbekhai,a Nigerian women who fled to Ireland in order to protect the lives of her family.

    Her first daughter,Elizabeth, bled to death in 2005 following a FGM procedure. To protect her other two daughters, Jemima and Naomi, she fled to Ireland.However, her and her family face deportation any day now,with her two daughters facing almost certain FGM and Pamela, probably worse, If she returns to Nigeria.
    I have great admiration for this articulate and loving women who endangers her life more and more each day as she speaks out to try and save the lives of her two daughters.

    This is a short documentary on her: *WARNING: While there are no disturbing images, the descriptions of FGM are not pleasant:* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Yk_me_60NQ
    What, no part of Nigeria is safe, so she "fled" to a country to which there are no direct flights from Nigeria?


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