Edge of Tomorrow (Tom Cruise, Emily Blunt, Bill Paxton!)

Skerries · 10-06-2014 5:15pm

what was the ending in the book?

Josey Wales · 11-06-2014 9:29am

Giruilla wrote: »

Loved that a serious film director - Doug Liman - would take on a sci-fi like this and deliver it with such care in the same fashion Guillermo did with Pacific Rim.

This might be the first time I've seen Doug Liman described as a serious film director.

Giruilla · 11-06-2014 9:35am

Josey Wales wrote: »

This might be the first time I've seen Doug Liman described as a serious film director.

He proved himself with Swingers.

Josey Wales · 11-06-2014 9:39am

Giruilla wrote: »

He proved himself with Swingers.

I wasn't saying that he wasn't a competent director, he did direct the original Bourne film after all. He has directed sci-fi before in Jumper and action in Mr & Mrs Smith so I wouldn't have thought it strange that he would take on a film like Edge of Tomorrow.

Giruilla · 11-06-2014 2:39pm

Josey Wales wrote: »

I wasn't saying that he wasn't a competent director, he did direct the original Bourne film after all. He has directed sci-fi before in Jumper and action in Mr & Mrs Smith so I wouldn't have thought it strange that he would take on a film like Edge of Tomorrow.

I was genuinely surprised to see his name on the bill. I know Jumper was a slight delve into sci fi, but the cgi was minimal and it was very character centric. I just think its a great that a director who's previously done Swingers and Go could be given and would want to do such a cgi heavy movie.
I meant serious as in 'proper/capable'.

Chris_Heilong · 11-06-2014 3:31pm

I wasnt too sure about this one but after watching it I can say it was very good. Yes the ending was by the numbers but it wasnt enough to ruin the enjoyment of the film.

krudler · 11-06-2014 8:48pm

Utterly sick to death of the plot device that is

kill the end game boss and all the other enemies drop dead cos they're all linked

. Just stop it Hollywood.

Skerries · 11-06-2014 11:39pm

Giruilla wrote: »

He proved himself with Swingers.

that's a nice hobby but what has that got to do with his films?

13-06-2014 11:53pm

Just out of this and I really enjoyed it, it's a summer blockbuster that strives to be something different and that it largely succeeds is something that should be celebrated. I can't remember the last time we had a summer blockbuster that relied on storytelling above all else.

Not going to go into too much detail as I have Devil's Knot ready to go on Netflix but I have noticed that a lot of people seem to have trouble with the ending and say it makes no sense. From how I read it

the reason he wakes up earlier than throughout the rest of the film is that the sequence of events which seen him first kill the Alpha now no longer take place and as he gets bled on earlier he now wakes up at the start of that day and not the one that follows.

As for why when he wakes up and the Uber Alpha doesn't, well I'm assuming that he stole the power and without when the day resets the Alpha no longer is able to reset.

I also got the impression that he retained his power even after the transfusion, how else did he know so much about the rest of the squad, especially when you consider that the it includes some rather illegal and embarrassing information.

It's not perfect and I imagine that I may be completely wrong but it's how I read the end of the film.

There is still a number of issues,

why does Brighma keep the tracking device in safe? If he thought that it was as useless as were led to believe he thinks then why protect it.

I'm also trying to figure out why Brigham send Cage into battle as I would assume that he's a combat veteran and would realise that sending Cage in as punishment would most likely result in Cage getting other people killed. And surely giving him the exco suit would be a waste of million dollar machinery. Also, how did no one recognise him? It seems that he's all over the media and has been for some while yet not one person on base or outside so much as gives him a second glance.

I'm assuming that when the film hits Blu-Ray we will see an extended cut as Jeremy Piven was nowhere to be seen in the film yet did shoot a number of scenes and gets a credit.

timetogo · 14-06-2014 9:35am

I heard about the day resetting a day earlier was because he died a day earlier.
That brings up a new issue.

His last day was some jam packed day.

He woke up on the base, had to find Blunt, drive / fly to London, get into the generals office, talk with him, get chased, caught, knocked unconscious, have a blood transfusion, escape, get back to the base, convince his squad he's a time traveller, steal a plane, fly to Paris, battle with the aliens, get into the Louvre and kill the alien mom and die.

14-06-2014 2:38pm

timetogo wrote: »

I heard about the day resetting a day earlier was because he died a day earlier.
That brings up a new issue.

His last day was some jam packed day.

He woke up on the base, had to find Blunt, drive / fly to London, get into the generals office, talk with him, get chased, caught, knocked unconscious, have a blood transfusion, escape, get back to the base, convince his squad he's a time traveller, steal a plane, fly to Paris, battle with the aliens, get into the Louvre and kill the alien mom and die.

Not really an issue, sure it's a little bit of a packed day but it's harly all that much of an issue.

The reason he wakes up a day earlier isn't because he died a day earlier, throughout the film Emily Blunt's character repeatedly kills him the day before the beach landing and it resets.The reason why he wakes up a day earlier at the end is because the beach invasion never took place and he was coated in the mimics blood earlier on meaning that when the day reset it would reset to whenever he last woke up.

As for why his final day was no longer so action packed, well it would seem that the Alpha Mimic exists outside of our understanding of time meaning that when time resets for Cage and the rest the Mimic is no longer alive because it exists outside the new time loop. It would appear that when time reset that final time it closed off the loop in which the Alpha existed. It would explain why J squad, Cage and Vrataski are all alive but the mimics no more.

When you think of it that way the ending makes sense, Cage is no longer branded a deserter, never meets the general and never comes into close proximity with battle of any kind. Time reset to the point where the film began.

Now that does leave one important question, is Cage still able to reset time?

pah · 15-06-2014 1:57am

[Deleted User] wrote: »

.The reason why he wakes up a day earlier at the end is because the beach invasion never took place and he was coated in the mimics blood earlier on meaning that when the day reset it would reset to whenever he last woke up.

This makes. absolutely. no. sense.

15-06-2014 10:59am

I saw this on Thursday - have always been a sucker for those Groundhog Day-type scenarios (Supernatural did a wonderful episode like it before!) so it was right up my street.

As mentioned previously, it was so good to see Cruise play someone who isn't this uber-soldier, like he has been in his last movie roles. Sure he eventually morphs into one (not a spoiler - look at the trailer and watch what he does!) but you can really see the progression from one to the other.

15-06-2014 12:55pm

pah wrote: »

This makes. absolutely. no. sense.

Should be

reset to whenever her last woke up but a day earlier.The reset seems to jump back a day but is set in a time, meaning that were he to die four days later then he would still reset to waking up on the base. It does raise the question if when he dies, 20 years from now will he wake up back on the helicopter over London.

Skerries · 16-06-2014 4:49pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I saw this on Thursday - have always been a sucker for those Groundhog Day-type scenarios (Supernatural did a wonderful episode like it before!) so it was right up my street.

did you ever see the film that came out around the same time as Groundhog Day called 12:01?
low budget but very good sci-fi

hmmm · 18-06-2014 11:43am

I'm a small bit disappointed they didn't stick closer to the book, because I thought the ending in that was quite good. I really did enjoy the first 2/3 of the movie,

but the final third descended into a "tick the box" Hollywood ending - a car chase, a romance, a location Americans might recognise, a single baddie that the hero can defeat, a happy ending.

I thought I got my moneys worth. I wouldn't rank it as a classic Sci-fi action movie by any means however, but at least it had some proper hard edges to it unlike something like Pacific Rim.

expectationlost · 21-06-2014 12:11am

notice their walking exposition reshoot bit near the start with the noticable rear projection

PartnerSeeds · 22-06-2014 11:59am

overall I enjoyed the movie. I liked how they included some comedy in parts which was unexpected

Adamantium · 22-06-2014 5:17pm

I'm hard enough to impress, but this is a stone cold classic.

Finally a "grounded" war film film set in Europe. The perfect meld of reality, history call backs WW2 and sci-fi. A small story in what felt like a larger war.

One of the greatest things about this film is that nothing was overdone. There was just the right amount of action, drama, romance, thrill, and sci-fi to make this film one cohesive, compelling story, without going off onto to tangents (as many films do by including draggy love scenes, or over complex scientific explanations for events). Every aspect of this film is weighed and measured to craft a well-balance feast for our minds, and that prowess speaks to the ability of both the director and the editor(s). Undoubtedly, the editing of this film must have been painstaking and intricate. Trying to figure out how much of each day was enough to keep the audience following along, without being overplayed must have been quite the process.

Loved the evocative war time feel of

London and Whitehall, and it made me want to see more of the wider world. How we would get glimpses of different events and then play them back with assumed knowledge at another level

The bit in the

pub reminded me of 1984 with Winston and the proles

Tom Cruise has NEVER been better. Blunt is just as good. Those two and Paxton, especially her make anything they're in better, so seeing them together is alike a dream. It was wonderful to have adult leads acting with the no BS mentality of war veterans, not some YA ****e. The comedy is just the right tone. I had a big ass grin the whole way through and I was recognising while watching it, "god this is special". Nobody had a line out of place, Paxton is finally back with some of that Edge.

That scene with Cruise and the truck and his reaction. He tried to sneak out of doing the pushups and miscalculated the trucks movement and gets ran over. Paxton: "What the hell were you thinking? to the assuredly bloody mess we don't see,

It was so morbidly funny, and It got the biggest laugh of the year for me.

It felt all so plausible not just in situations, but in character development and I can't say that of hardly any blockbusters since the mass advent of CGI and inflated budgets.

The movie seemed to be creating itself naturally.

There was no warping across the galaxy, "hey why do we need starships so" and jumping the captains chair. There was little breaking of internal logic.

Reminded me of BSG in terms of the aesthetics, set up and the poster who mentioned Emily Blunt as the best sci-fi heroine since Kara Thrace is 100% correct.

The humans felt like humans, soft meat puppets, and the world was shown as dangerous and weighty, not just talked about and

I honestly feared for how fallible them which is truly extraordinary in a film which whole premise is resetting/reliving the same day. He is a very different person by the end and nobody will know why, until he tells her obviously

His character kinda reminds me of Wikus from District 9; he does what he does out of survival and desperation. You slowly see the toll it has on his mental health. Its very anti Michael Bay in that it at no point glorifies war. It's one of those movies where you get some idea how PTSD affects soldiers.

And it somehow manges to be the rage/terror and trance like state of war, and be ridiculously entertaining and cool and terrifying. Those moments where Cruise is in the dropship the first time and he struggling like some scared child to get somebody to answer him to turn the safety off were amazing He just wanted to. You could see the fear and hear it in his voice, I felt for him and was affected, I was bricking it too. It's all the countless little moments like this.

It got the cruelty and devil may care attitude of war across, it was really subversive

You forget Tom the star and just watch the film wondering what will happen next and how far into each day he'll go, or how far other people will allow him to go. I found the part

at the farm where Cruise had seen her future and tried multiple ways to save her, but didn't want to let on to her, very affecting and sad in a way

The movie flows in an interesting way and it likes to surprise you. I'm not talking about forced twists, I'm talking about that special situation where you don't know what happens next. I've missed that feeling. I didn't have to pretend to care about the movie, I was interested in every minute of it. This happens rarely. And when it ends, you're satisfied. No setting up sequels, no ambiguous crap, just a solid, fitting ending.

If we could have more this, blockbuster cinema will be saved. Yet of course it's my favourite film of the year and it's doing terrible in the US at least.

I'll be honest with most films these days, you hear me say "it was alright for what it was" like Mc Donalds. Making Rationalisations that we have to make do with the junk that roles off conveyor belt from the studios. This didn't feel like one despite all the obvious signs it looks like one.

This film didn't want that as a thought/option, and it both dazzled and delighted me in doing so.

I only wish I could have brought a few of my people along with me, as lord knows enough I've been too enough ****e with them.

Yes the ending is

implausible, but it felt earned, if that makes any sense. How many blockbusters make the heroes earn their moment? I wanted them together, as opposed to rolling my eyes. It worked despite the plot contrivance. It's also bittersweet. I mean, the guy spent so much time with her, and in the end, it starts all over but it's her first time meeting him, for the final time. All I would do in that situation is just smile or even laugh, just like Cage. He had spent years fighting, it used to be all about what he wanted in the beginning, and he comes to the realisation he hasn't thought about himself for a very, very long time, he's surprised by the question

The poster is mentioned that mentioned that

morbidly dark

ending was initailly what I had in mind too for a split second.

I love that

nobody will know what they did.

This would have been my younger brother's dream movie but he is on a J1! D-Day goes sci-fi.

I could have sat with these characters for another few hours!

It is everything that used to be great about summer blockbusters before the superhero renaissance of the year 2000, and it is everything that has been forgotten about cinema in general. There once was a time when you weren't so certain about the fate of the characters in your movie, full-well knowing that they are either invincible or planned for the sequel. There once was a time when action movies made you actually feel something other than, "Eww, that was cool." And it does that as well. You feel the full spectrum of emotion in this one.

This goes right up upside with Terminator 2.
In fact if I didn't know any better, I'd have believed 90's Cameron directed this!

It's a film that most action/sci fi movies and superhero movies wish they could be. It never felt safe. It actually has something to say Groundhog day, Back to the Future, It's a Wonderful life, about personal development and growth, and how if we fail; why not treat every day as new start like a videogame? No matter hellish it can be, we can learn, endure, live, die, repeat, everytime we fall asleep at night to a point where we get to a place where we're satisfied, accomplished the goals. Of course this all buried so well in the allegory of the story. It's subversive, and that's the mark of the greatest storytelling.

That end theme music....Beautiful

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZLTMC-BMCI

I'm trying to think of anything I didn't love....

I'm kind of in shock. I haven't enjoyed a sci-fi film like this since..since I was a child, and I'm a grown ass adult. The biggest surprise in YEARS.
I wouldn't mind seeing Doug Liman have a go at Star Wars in some form. Maybe Episode IX, if Rian Johnson is only writing but not directing that.

I agree with everything in this article:

http://thisisinfamous.com/edge-tomorrow-deserves-redemption-sakes/

http://plarko.com/movies/edge-tomorrow-future-original-action-films/

Of all the original "big" movies over the past few years, this deserves to blow up at the BO and be fought for. Basically anything that isn’t a prequel, sequel or reboot of a decades long franchise

Giruilla · 23-06-2014 10:06am

Adamantium wrote: »

I'm kind of in shock. I haven't enjoyed a sci-fi film like this since..since I was a child, and I'm a grown ass adult. The biggest surprise in YEARS.

Nice post, I felt the same on pretty much everything you said and especially the above.

The film was a big surprise for me, and I only went to it after a friends recommendation. I've read the original book, and just been so repeatedly disappointed by sci-fi/action in recent years, combined with a fairly poor trailer, this was one I was going to give a miss. It's prob not for everyone, but it really should have performed better at the box office.

Agree that would have been very interesting to see Doug Liman do a Star Wars, but alas not to be. I'm sure JJ will do a vastly superior job than the prequels.. but I really really didn't like that second Star Trek film, Super 8 and MI3. Reason being they weren't original enough.. too wanky homage-y to previous films.

Thargor · 23-06-2014 1:03pm

Enjoyed it aswell, but can someone explain why in some scenes:

Cruises character was a big successful media relations major that people stood to attention for and then the next day was a deserter and a traitor that nobody recognizes?

timetogo · 23-06-2014 2:02pm

Thargor wrote: »

Enjoyed it aswell, but can someone explain why in some scenes:
Cruises character was a big successful media relations major that people stood to attention for and then the next day was a deserter and a traitor that nobody recognizes?

He was a major in the American army. He said at the start that the general had no authority over him.

There seem to be a lot of majors in the US army (https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100503140725AANo2Tq)

Thargor · 23-06-2014 2:05pm

I wasn't asking what a Major was, I'm asking why is he a successful officer in one scene and a traitor and a deserter in another. If he was only impersonating an officer how was he on all the news programmes and getting helicopter rides over London etc?

timetogo · 23-06-2014 2:07pm

Thargor wrote: »

I wasn't asking what a Major was, I'm asking why is he a successful officer in one scene and a traitor and a deserter in another.

Because he tried to blackmail the general.

The second bit (why did nobody recognise him), was because he was a major in the US army.

Manach · 23-06-2014 2:09pm

Perhaps the combat troops in the squad did recognise him as familiar to the PR guy on TV, but as he was being introduced as a deserter (the lowest of life in the army) then that would have been the tag that stuck with him

Thargor · 23-06-2014 2:22pm

timetogo wrote: »

Because he tried to blackmail the general.

The second bit (why did nobody recognise him), was because he was a major in the US army.

Wow I must have zoned out and missed that spoiler! I had climbed Djouce mountain earlier in the day

Spent a lot of the film wondering why the timelines were different over missing that little spoiler, doh...

timetogo · 23-06-2014 2:23pm

Thargor wrote: »

Wow I must have zoned out and missed that spoiler! I had climbed Djouce mountain earlier in the day

Spent a lot of the film wondering why the timelines were different over missing that little spoiler, doh...

That would have been a confusing film so.

Adamantium · 23-06-2014 7:17pm

After this, I want to now see Emily Blunt's take on Sarah Connor.

I don't know anyone could say Emilia Clarke would be better, even though they are clearly aiming for somebody a decade younger or so than Blunt.

I would watch a buddy cop comedy with Cruise and Blunt, hey that even sounds like a good title!

This was also the best Resistance: Fall of Man movie ever,

in respects to taking back Europe (Meteor landing in Germany, as opposed to Tugaska, Russia)

expectationlost · 28-06-2014 2:06am

good film and but did they ultimately not despite trying there hardest fall back into the 'man dragging women around by the hand' film we've so much of (think of the other emily blunt film the Adjustment Bureau and its poster http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1385826/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_12)

she may have been the the full metal bitch but no longer and she does have to pulled around by cruise now in order to get anywhere.

Goldstein · 28-06-2014 11:42am

expectationlost wrote: »

good film and but did they ultimately not despite trying there hardest fall back into the 'man dragging women around by the hand' film we've so much of (think of the other emily blunt film the Adjustment Bureau and its poster http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1385826/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_12)

she may have been the the full metal bitch but no longer and she does have to pulled around by cruise now in order to get anywhere.

Vrataski was the full metal bltch because she had knowledge of the future. Losing that ability was why she was at a disadvantage compared to Cage, not because she was a woman. Any man would have had to have been guided/helped given the scenario.

expectationlost · 28-06-2014 5:45pm

Goldstein wrote: »

Vrataski was the full metal bltch because she had knowledge of the future. Losing that ability was why she was at a disadvantage compared to Cage, not because she was a woman. Any man would have had to have been guided/helped given the scenario.

yes i know but ultimately thats what we see on screen for most of the film, her being led around.

rockbeast · 28-06-2014 10:47pm

expectationlost wrote: »

yes i know but ultimately thats what we see on screen for most of the film, her being led around.

Yeah, was a shame, although I really enjoyed EOT.

Would definitely check out a Full Metal Bitch movie!

charlie_says · 30-06-2014 7:30am

Overall pretty decent and a grand spectacle in the cinema. So much to like in nearly all of the film, except as said here earlier, the final scenes was total cruise control CGI gruel. Shame, though as it could have been something pretty special if it didn't go down that route.

I totally didn't understand

the corny ending. Was that put in for people who didn't understand the entire movie? Arrgh is that me? :pac:

Also, I thought Tom did well. Bill Paxton was fun too.

expectationlost · 30-06-2014 7:57pm

did she turn out to be the full metal dream bitch?

OzCam · 30-06-2014 10:55pm

Does anyone know why Edge of Tomorrow has a shot of an Irish soldier marching behind a Piranha APC (probably from an Easter Parade, I think the GPO is in the background) in the prologue, and a shot of an Irish Tricolour at the end of the road in FOB Heathrow?

These things don't survive the Editing process for no reason.

30-06-2014 11:00pm

OzCam wrote: »

Does anyone know why Edge of Tomorrow has a shot of an Irish soldier marching behind a Piranha APC (probably from an Easter Parade, I think the GPO is in the background) in the prologue, and a shot of an Irish Tricolour at the end of the road in FOB Heathrow?

These things don't survive the Editing process for no reason.

The army is made up of soldiers from all around the world so it makes sense to have some Irish in there

CINCLANTFLT · 30-06-2014 11:24pm

Just saw this... I am a big Sci Fi fan and this was one of my favourites... highly recommended...

Also... for us Paddies... the general in charge is Irish and keeps his Irish accent... thank you Mr Gleeson...

And... is Jeremy Piven in it? I have tried to emulate Ari Gold in my worklife and marriage, but I don't remember him in the film???

expectationlost · 01-07-2014 12:32am

OzCam wrote: »

Does anyone know why Edge of Tomorrow has a shot of an Irish soldier marching behind a Piranha APC (probably from an Easter Parade, I think the GPO is in the background) in the prologue, and a shot of an Irish Tricolour at the end of the road in FOB Heathrow?

These things don't survive the Editing process for no reason.

and the fat irish general?

OzCam · 01-07-2014 5:07pm

Deleted User wrote: »

The army is made up of soldiers from all around the world so it makes sense to have some Irish in there

Well obviously, but why ours?

Despite the Defence Forces' stellar reputation in peacekeeping and training, there are lots of other armies they could have used. The entire Irish Army is slightly smaller than the UK 16 Air Assault Brigade, and smaller than some Regiments in the USMC.

Why not the Canadians, or Russians, or Chinese, or Aussies, or Belgians, or Germans or whatever?

So my question is: was there an Irish connection in the making of EoT? Direction? Production? Financing? Set Dressing?

pixelburp · 01-07-2014 5:37pm

OzCam wrote: »

Does anyone know why Edge of Tomorrow has a shot of an Irish soldier marching behind a Piranha APC (probably from an Easter Parade, I think the GPO is in the background) in the prologue, and a shot of an Irish Tricolour at the end of the road in FOB Heathrow?

These things don't survive the Editing process for no reason.

For a little local colour? I don't recall the prologue that well, but they probably just used some stock military footage from the EU for legitimacy's sake. It was odd all right that Gleeson used his natural accent, but I got the impression he was a general in the British army, not Irish. Either way I don't think it was a big thing or that deliberate beyond underlining just how international the effort was. The Russians and Chinese were mentioned as holding up the Eastern front so I guess that's why they didn't feature. Armies on mainland Europe probably got wiped out during the initial phases of the war, so it would stand to reason all that was left were those from the UK, Ireland and Nordic countries (iirc there were a few Swedish flags knocking about too) and there was no sign of any German or French soldiers.

Adamantium · 01-07-2014 5:51pm

Realistically the Edge of Tomorrow was right in that the only way we'll ever survive an invasion is through the use of time travel.

It's amazing how having infinite lives in a movie has the counter intutive effect where that the characters feel more vulnerable than any film I've seen in years.

I like the details with the Irish Flag, I'd imagine there was mass exodus/flight of people/refugees from Europe to the British Isles exponentially increasing their population, and the UK and Ireland's defence forces were bolstered to an unprecedented level by the United States.

Loved the wartime feel of Whitehall, quiet, shutdown, even eerie with sandbags and garbage just piling up. Where are all the people besides the elderly? ammunitions factories, That's world building. I'm mad for all those allusions to a modern day WW2 scenario, retro future style.

OzCam · 01-07-2014 5:55pm

pixelburp wrote: »

It was odd all right that Gleeson used his natural accent, but I got the impression he was a general in the British army, not Irish.

Yes, he was wearing MultiCam. It's not a PCS MTP shirt, I don't think they were on issue when the movie was shot, and the Canadian-style slotted buttons indicate that it may have been made up by the costume dept. British utility shirts have hidden buttons. The nametape over the left breast pocket is very British though.

Lots of people with Irish accents in the British Army, and not just in the Irish Guards. Stands to reason that one of them will make General sooner or later.

(Sorry. Camo nerd.)

02-07-2014 10:59am

OzCam wrote: »

Well obviously, but why ours?

Despite the Defence Forces' stellar reputation in peacekeeping and training, there are lots of other armies they could have used. The entire Irish Army is slightly smaller than the UK 16 Air Assault Brigade, and smaller than some Regiments in the USMC.

Why not the Canadians, or Russians, or Chinese, or Aussies, or Belgians, or Germans or whatever?

So my question is: was there an Irish connection in the making of EoT? Direction? Production? Financing? Set Dressing?

Why not ours? from watching the film it's obvious that there is no longer separate armies but one united front, the broad range of accents used by the soldiers in Cruise's own team shows this.

Adamantium · 02-07-2014 2:42pm

Did anyone else notice how the credit visuals and song were akin to the Bourne films? (Doug Liman directed the first, IDENTITY?

FunLover18 · 02-07-2014 3:14pm

According to Wikipedia Brigham is a Genera of the "NATO-led United Defense Forces (UDF)"

expectationlost · 02-07-2014 6:37pm

FunLover18 wrote: »

According to Wikipedia Brigham is a Genera of the "NATO-led United Defense Forces (UDF)"

it might have taken an alien invasion for Ireland to join Nato

pixelburp · 03-07-2014 9:49am

According to an interview with the scriptwriter, the ending was originally going to be darker and more of a downer:
http://filmschoolrejects.com/features/edge-of-tomorrow-ending-alternate.php

Cue the 'typical Hollywood' comments, but honestly that above ending sounds terrible and just confirms to me that darker is not always better. What we got was a bit too pat sure, but narratively it worked fine within the context of the adventure.

OzCam · 03-07-2014 10:16pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Why not ours?

Because the Irish Army isn't even a speck of dust on the desk of the radar screen of Hollywood. Apart from messrs Gleeson, Neeson, Byrne and the delectable Ms Ronan I'd be astonished if anyone in Hollywood even knows we have a regular army.

So to get two product placements in a blockbuster movie like that is a major achievement. Maybe Gleeson suggested it?

BTW, The Army has participated in NATO-led missions before. I think Kosovo was the first, but I'm open to correction on that.

Goldstein · 03-07-2014 11:01pm

pixelburp wrote: »

According to an interview with the scriptwriter, the ending was originally going to be darker and more of a downer:
http://filmschoolrejects.com/features/edge-of-tomorrow-ending-alternate.php

Cue the 'typical Hollywood' comments, but honestly that above ending sounds terrible and just confirms to me that darker is not always better. What we got was a bit too pat sure, but narratively it worked fine within the context of the adventure.

Agreed. I think a dark ending would have been totally at odds with what the tone of the entire film which had been relatively light-hearted and fun.

Mickeroo · 03-07-2014 11:09pm

pixelburp wrote: »

According to an interview with the scriptwriter, the ending was originally going to be darker and more of a downer:
http://filmschoolrejects.com/features/edge-of-tomorrow-ending-alternate.php

Cue the 'typical Hollywood' comments, but honestly that above ending sounds terrible and just confirms to me that darker is not always better. What we got was a bit too pat sure, but narratively it worked fine within the context of the adventure.

That just says it would have ended with him

waking in the helicopter rather than showing him going and finding Blunt's character as well?

Would definitely have preferred what we got instead of that for sure, but I would have preferred

himself and Blunt just staying dead after the saved the world

to either scenario, that seemed like the natural ending to me.

Edge of Tomorrow (Tom Cruise, Emily Blunt, Bill Paxton!)

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