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    #6152
    [Deleted User]
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    dieselbug wrote: »
    Vizzy wrote: »
    If these horses are kept in private fields( a lot of time with the blessing of the owner) then the Council have no role to play, in fact it would be illegal for the Council to trespass on private land.
    If horses are kept on the side of the road then the Council can seize them, and have done so on numerous occasions. The owner then needs to pay a hefty price to get them back, but all the horses in the current incident were on private land.

    But if it was brought to their attention as it apparently it may have been, don't they have, at least a moral obligation to bring it to the attention of the relevant authorities as all of us do.

    Surely it's not acceptable to have knowledge of this unfortunate situation and not act on it.

    When dealing with the owners of those misfortunate animals, everyone not just welfare officials, tend to tread very carefully. ‘Tis the culture.


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    #6153
    Vizzy
    Registered Users Posts: 2,527 ✭✭✭Vizzy


    dieselbug wrote: »
    But if it was brought to their attention as it apparently it may have been, don't they have, at least a moral obligation to bring it to the attention of the relevant authorities as all of us do.

    Surely it's not acceptable to have knowledge of this unfortunate situation and not act on it.

    Agree that the Council should have brought this to the attention of the relevant authorities.
    Don't know about this case in particular but in previous cases the Council would have notified Dept of Agriculture(I think) who look after cuellty to animals.
    From what I have read about this case, it only came to light when some of the animal corpses were found by somebody out walking. Unfortunately, Irish social culture generally is not to report these things for fear of "getting involved".
    What I was responding to really was "When are the Council going to get off their collective holes and start taking horses away that are left in fields and in the side of the road". Typical of some, blame the Council for everything !!


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    #6154
    by8auj6csd3ioq
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    If these horses are kept in private fields( a lot of time with the blessing of the owner) then the Council have no role to play, in fact it would be illegal for the Council to trespass on private land
    Not so. An authorised officer authorised by local authority can enter private land. so can the garda and the gardai can bring with them anyone they deem necessary to perform their duties


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    #6155
    Jakey Rolling
    Registered Users Posts: 918 ✭✭✭Jakey Rolling


    F34 wrote: »
    This is sickening:

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/councillor-reduced-to-tears-in-field-of-dead-horses-and-a-starving-foal-36423557.html

    When are the Council going to get off their collective holes and start taking horses away that are left in fields and in the side of the road. Do they really fear the ethnic minority that own them that much?

    Well according to this Nationalist article
     they collected 40 horses in the first 8 months of 2016, at a cost of €40,000 of taxpayers money. Call it €60k for the year. I thought I had seen a figure of over €100k for previous years. Limerick council have typically been spending €500-600k every year mostly disposing of these maltreated horses.

    So they are being dealt with at times, where horses are accessible and not on private land. Costing the rest of us a packet though!

    100412.2526@compuserve.com



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    #6156
    by8auj6csd3ioq
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    Disgraceful waste of public money. I have to say that the calendars fit on the fridge grand....once all the vital information is cut off. https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/revealed-two-tds-used-dil-facilities-to-print-more-than-100000-calendars-for-constituents-36422598.html

    nearly as bad as handouts to farmers


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    #6157
    SnitchenBubs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭SnitchenBubs


    Anyone no of a good place to buy a garden shed in Clonmel for a reasonable price?


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    #6158
    All in all
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    SnitchenBubs wrote: »
    Anyone no of a good place to buy a garden shed in Clonmel for a reasonable price?

    Depends what you are after but pollards on the dungarvan rd across from applegreen would be worth a visit.


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    #6159
    Xenophile
    Registered Users Posts: 4,069 ✭✭✭Xenophile


    SnitchenBubs wrote: »
    Anyone no of a good place to buy a garden shed in Clonmel for a reasonable price?

    Try Commeragh Service Station on the Waterford Road

    The Forum on Spirituality has been closed for years. Please bring it back, there are lots of Spiritual people in Ireland and elsewhere.



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    #6160
    clfy39tzve8njq
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    SnitchenBubs wrote:
    Anyone no of a good place to buy a garden shed in Clonmel for a reasonable price?

    Depends what you're after there's the two already mentioned and also the garden centre in Glenconner


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    #6161
    SnitchenBubs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭SnitchenBubs


    Thanks for the suggestions I wasn't sure of where to look apart from woodies, I'll give those places a look into.

    Looking for a timber shed, around 8ft x 8ft or something in or around that.


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    #6162
    clfy39tzve8njq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 597 ✭✭✭clfy39tzve8njq


    SnitchenBubs wrote:
    Looking for a timber shed, around 8ft x 8ft or something in or around that.


    Pollards are your best bet so. They have a Facebook page if you're on that


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    #6163
    by8auj6csd3ioq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭by8auj6csd3ioq


    Does anyone know who is going to publish the new paper in Clonmel. i am told it will be sold on the street like the big issue but is not a homeless thing


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    #6164
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    The last few times I was in town,I saw some work going on inside the Piper Inn on upper Gladstone street..Anyone heard any news of it opening again?


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    #6165
    F34
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The last few times I was in town,I saw some work going on inside the Piper Inn on upper Gladstone street..Anyone heard any news of it opening again?

    Yeah it’s open again with Pollards the name above the door.


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    #6166
    cml387
    Registered Users Posts: 8,379 ✭✭✭cml387


    Rant switch on/

    In the Showgrounds shopping centre, what's the story about traffic insisting on queueing for the low level car park when there are loads of spaces in the upper level. Are ye afraid of going up the ramp? I've seen drivers insist on trying to enter that ground car park even though the (infinitely patient) security guy has put cones up to indicate that it's full

    Rant off/

    By the way, before Christmas I noticed a car had been clamped there. Mrs CML being of a curious nature asked the security guy what was the story. Apparently the driver had "gone off on his holidays" because it had been there for three days.

    If you own a silver Avensis and have come back from Tenerife or whatever and found your car clamped, you should have read the large signs that say parking is free for three hours only.


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    #6167
    dieselbug
    Registered Users Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭dieselbug


    cml387 wrote: »
    Rant switch on/

    In the Showgrounds shopping centre, what's the story about traffic insisting on queueing for the low level car park when there are loads of spaces in the upper level. Are ye afraid of going up the ramp? I've seen drivers insist on trying to enter that ground car park even though the (infinitely patient) security guy has put cones up to indicate that it's full

    Rant off/

    By the way, before Christmas I noticed a car had been clamped there. Mrs CML being of a curious nature asked the security guy what was the story. Apparently the driver had "gone off on his holidays" because it had been there for three days.

    If you own a silver Avensis and have come back from Tenerife or whatever and found your car clamped, you should have read the large signs that say parking is free for three hours only.


    And how was your Christmas other than these issues :)


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    #6168
    Mountainsandh
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    I agree though it's ridiculous, I'm often grumbling about the same thing myself. People are silly sometimes. Maybe some older folks are genuinely worried about going up the ramp ? But it doesn't seem to be just older folks doing it.


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    #6169
    cml387
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    dieselbug wrote: »
    And how was your Christmas other than these issues :)

    I'm not really a Christmas person:o


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    #6170
    klose
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    Only got caught at the little roundabout today going into the showgrounds cause someone was too busy leaving someone out in the lower car park near the entrance and proceeded to try reverse park in and took an age, I myself went up to the room were surprisingly enough there was tons of spaces, who'd have thought.
    Fare wack of people using the car park for the free parking and heading to town.


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    #6171
    SnitchenBubs
    Closed Accounts Posts: 35 ✭SnitchenBubs


    https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2017/1230/930240-dead-horses-clonmel/

    Made the news.

    You're pissing against the wind really when it comes to tackling travellers in any meaningful way since their culture is crime and it's indulged in our society but this is horrendous.

    Walk pass any halting site in Clonmel, ANY, and you'll find flagrant displays of animal cruelty in various forms, among other things like littering etc. The Halting site on the Bypass is pissing sewage since forever and it's just left there.


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    #6172
    dieselbug
    Registered Users Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭dieselbug


    Is there financial help available to provide feed etc to animals that you own and may have difficulty providing for?

    Just trying to confirm if something I heard this morning is accurate.



    Can anyone elaborate on this.


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    #6173
    pooch90
    Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭pooch90


    cml387 wrote: »
    Rant switch on/

    In the Showgrounds shopping centre, what's the story about traffic insisting on queueing for the low level car park when there are loads of spaces in the upper level. Are ye afraid of going up the ramp? I've seen drivers insist on trying to enter that ground car park even though the (infinitely patient) security guy has put cones up to indicate that it's full

    Rant off/

    By the way, before Christmas I noticed a car had been clamped there. Mrs CML being of a curious nature asked the security guy what was the story. Apparently the driver had "gone off on his holidays" because it had been there for three days.

    If you own a silver Avensis and have come back from Tenerife or whatever and found your car clamped, you should have read the large signs that say parking is free for three hours only.

    I'll queue for downstairs if I've the kids. YOu need the P&C spaces with car seats etc. If there were some upstairs then grand but travellator and buggy a pain!


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    #6174
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    pooch90 wrote: »
    I'll queue for downstairs if I've the kids. YOu need the P&C spaces with car seats etc. If there were some upstairs then grand but travellator and buggy a pain!

    You could also use the lift.


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    #6175
    pudzey101
    Registered Users Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭pudzey101


    Saw a post/video on bookface about the beggars in town that quotes " This is the "Clonmel begging crew". They just got out of a new car down near the Showgrounds. Guy on the outside nearest the road with the red bobble hat will be around town barely able to walk with a crutch. You can see him here not even trying to use it and keeping up with the others who are half his age. All have backpacks with some sort of seat built in and no doubt plenty of food. These people are only in Clonmel because people give them money. It's a begging enterprise and should not be supported. Please share this if you can "

    not sure if im allowed to post link to the video


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    #6176
    lollsangel
    Registered Users Posts: 473 ✭✭lollsangel


    I'll queue for downstairs if I've the kids. YOu need the P&C spaces with car seats etc. If there were some upstairs then grand but travellator and buggy a pain![/quote]

    There is p&c spaces upstairs. They are on the left hand side near the entrance?


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    #6177
    zurbfoundation
    Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭zurbfoundation


    pudzey101 wrote: »
    Saw a post/video on bookface about the beggars in town that quotes " This is the "Clonmel begging crew". They just got out of a new car down near the Showgrounds. Guy on the outside nearest the road with the red bobble hat will be around town barely able to walk with a crutch. You can see him here not even trying to use it and keeping up with the others who are half his age. All have backpacks with some sort of seat built in and no doubt plenty of food. These people are only in Clonmel because people give them money. It's a begging enterprise and should not be supported. Please share this if you can "

    not sure if im allowed to post link to the video

    I mentioned some time ago these lads were staying in the old closed up mart on Davis road / so how a man with a crutch junps the wall i dont know / some bleeding hearts were even defending their choice of digs


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    #6178
    zurbfoundation
    Registered Users Posts: 816 ✭✭✭zurbfoundation


    cml387 wrote: »
    Rant switch on/

    In the Showgrounds shopping centre, what's the story about traffic insisting on queueing for the low level car park when there are loads of spaces in the upper level. Are ye afraid of going up the ramp? I've seen drivers insist on trying to enter that ground car park even though the (infinitely patient) security guy has put cones up to indicate that it's full

    Rant off/

    By the way, before Christmas I noticed a car had been clamped there. Mrs CML being of a curious nature asked the security guy what was the story. Apparently the driver had "gone off on his holidays" because it had been there for three days.

    If you own a silver Avensis and have come back from Tenerife or whatever and found your car clamped, you should have read the large signs that say parking is free for three hours only.

    Instead of parking in the showgrounds carpark there are a few adjoining residential roads marked as "parking for residents only", you could park on one of these like showgrounds staff do everyday or other holiday makers catching the kavanagh bus.


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    #6179
    by8auj6csd3ioq
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,124 ✭✭✭by8auj6csd3ioq


    But if they are stayinging in the mart they must be begging from need. If it is a begging enterprise would they not have proper home? The silver car could be a taxi. Why would a new car drop people to live in a mart? I presume the old mart is abandoned no heat etc.

    Are these the people who were sleeping under the arches in o'connell street?


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    #6180
    pooch90
    Registered Users Posts: 2,371 ✭✭✭pooch90


    lollsangel wrote: »
    I'll queue for downstairs if I've the kids. YOu need the P&C spaces with car seats etc. If there were some upstairs then grand but travellator and buggy a pain!

    There is p&c spaces upstairs. They are on the left hand side near the entrance?[/QUOTE]

    I thought they were only disabled spots?


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    #6181
    freshpopcorn
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    The main reason why we never really park on the upper level of The Showgrounds is. It always seems to take ages to get to M&S form there!


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