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My PS3 vs Eircom's F1000 Modem -- a story of constant annoyances

  • 07-09-2013 4:55pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭


    Hello there, now, where to begin, really? Well, I guess I'll tell my story from the start....so you'd best grab a stool...

    I guess I want to begin with saying that I am officially sick to death with Eircom and their 'supposedly super-awesome' eFibre F1000 modem.

    We've been customers with the ISP for a long while now, but only signed up for broadband a few years ago. Then, earlier in the year, around June we applied for the fibre optic upgrade, and finally got it set up around the end of July. So yay, an upgraded connection, 'faster, uncongested speeds' and no more warring for Netflix buffering time, etc etc. The modem worked a treat with my laptop, android phone, and most other devices that wish to connect to the network. All, except, for my ps3.

    *Sigh* So soon after we get the new modem installed, I'm thinking 'Great! no more laggy connections', feeling grateful that I could finally banish that nasty NAT3 connection from my memory. But, soon after, this is when my woes began. About a day or so after upgrading, I tried signing into the PSN network, but lo and behold I am greeted with a sign-in error. 'That's odd,' I start saying to myself, until I try sign-in again. And again. And again. Growing annoyed, I decided to leave it, and come back that night and try and sign in again; with similar results.

    After that, my disruptions began. I started having hit-and-miss days where some times I could be signed in all day and nothing would happen, or on other days I could have a repeat of the above and not be able to sign in at all. Now I'm not a big 'online-gamer' but can you imagine how much of a hassle this would be to someone, especially after forking out the extra dosh for a 'superior connection.'

    A record of the errors I've been experiencing can be viewed at the following links;
    http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network-Technical/Can-t-Sync-Trophies-80710D23-Error/m-p/19509898#M24958
    http://community.eu.playstation.com/t5/PlayStation-Network-Technical/PSN-Woes-Part-2-Error-code-80710092/m-p/19698644#M29109

    But that's not all. So, realising now that I'm stuck with a connection that works perfectly fine with everything else bar my ps3, I had to grow tolerate of its as-of-yet unexplainable tendency to randomly 'kick me' from the network, and render downloading and using media server a strictly hit-and-miss affair. But patience would only last for so long.

    After about two weeks of this, I decided to bite the bullet and contact eircom, in the first of five phone calls to be made all pertaining to this exact same fiasco. Other than being frankly unimpressed by their 'tech support,' I began to try all solutions that they proposed, like adjusting firewall settings, etc etc. In short, half the time that I rang, I ended up telling them what I needed done, and the third timeI rang I ended up talking to some joker who tried telling me that when I used the old netopia silver box I 'was meant to have problems,' when in fact I did not. Not. EVER. AND I used TWO netopia boxes during different times and periods to connect with the ps3, and never had an ounce of trouble. But this is besides the point.

    Growing weary of my troubles & also the staggering phone bills we'll probably be getting for these fruitless phone calls, I rang up eircom for the 4th time to file a complaint. I got told to expect a phone call 'within 7 working days' and then I got inadvertently transferred to tech support again. And this time, after waiting 10 minutes on hold, I got utterly fed up and cancelled the call.

    Despairing by now, my Dad, whom is the account holder in our house, phones up eircom for the 5th and final time and sweet hallelujah, we finally get on to someone who knows his stuff and can relate. Willing to dedicate some of his off-work hours to help solve my problem, we spent a night trying all manner of ways to solve the problem. I'm not particularly techy with the works of the F1000 modem but what I can tell you is that between us we changed numerous settings, lowered and even turned off the firewall, done this, that and the other thing, all of which accumulated in trying to set up portforwarding.

    In brief, that didn't even work, which left the guy who was helping me utterly stumped, and also his friend stumped too, which leaves me at a complete and utter loss for what to do next, save of ring up Sony to try and get their insight on this problem. But again, I shudder to think of the phone bill...

    So, this is why I've come here, to get some perspectives on my woes, you know?

    Stuff worthy of mentioning I guess; particular model of ps3 is the Super Slim edition, bought last October when my 'fat' ps3 died. Tried using the custom connection settings on it, like manually entering ip, primary DNS etc etc, but it was just not happening.

    The console itself is in the exact same place it was when I used to connect to the old modem.

    Ahmmm. Nothing else is in the room that I'd say would interfere with the signal...if that's any help...haha...

    Another thing; after fiddling with the settings that time, as soon as I get kicked, I can sign in again straight away, and it is behaving better...but I still worry....

    Not sure what else to add, other than saying I'm getting really pissed off at Eircom and their ****-tastic modem.

    So I would gladly appreciate some help. <3

    Thank-you.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭hallo dare


    Have you tried port forwarding?


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    I mentioned we did try and set it up but for some reason it wasn't working. He said put in port 80 for start and finish ports and leave the other two blank, but it wasn't accepting it and kept giving an invalid 'something something' error. I can't remember the error, but if someone could help me try portforwarding again, since I honestly don't understand it, I would like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,104 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Personally ive never found any providers modems to be particularly good.

    so i just bought a belkin and used it as an access point. Never had an issue since then. This is with Eircom and UPC.

    Prior to that nothing but constant issues on their proprietry equipment. So IMO get your own router /access point and add it on to the network. It saved me wasting my time. Doing anything else.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    That was one of the conclusions I came to. But, weary of the price tag of a new modem, what are some modems that would be recommend? And in the event that I do buy a new modem, is there any steps I need to take to accommodate the switcharoo? Or is it a simple matter of just hooking up the new modem to the cable, plug it in and switch on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Liquidchild


    I had constant problems also with Eircom, not so much with the ps3 gaming but with it taking 15 hours to download an average 90 minute movie.... My 45 euro a month bill could have been better spent with another company...To any newcomers undecided on which ISP to choose, my honest advise is STAY AWAY FROM EIRCOM.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,104 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Rilgar wrote: »
    That was one of the conclusions I came to. But, weary of the price tag of a new modem, what are some modems that would be recommend? And in the event that I do buy a new modem, is there any steps I need to take to accommodate the switcharoo? Or is it a simple matter of just hooking up the new modem to the cable, plug it in and switch on?

    Well with UPC i networked it as an access point. As the UPC modem is a cable modem so retained that as the modem to the outside world.

    When i had eircom i ditched the netopia completely and had the Belkin plugged straight into the phone point. You would need login details and IP address from the Netopia first to put into the new modem.

    I simple dont rate anyones equipment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    I had constant problems also with Eircom, not so much with the ps3 gaming but with it taking 15 hours to download an average 90 minute movie.... My 45 euro a month bill could have been better spent with another company...To any newcomers undecided on which ISP to choose, my honest advise is STAY AWAY FROM EIRCOM.

    Yes, I agree, and can't stress this enough! I think we were paying for a 8mb package (don't know price) but we were only getting about an 1/8 of that, event hough there are boxes (which now includes one of those 'V' green-with-hinge-lock box) outside our house and still we were told the exchange was further up the road. Ridiculous.
    listermint wrote: »
    Well with UPC i networked it as an access point. As the UPC modem is a cable modem so retained that as the modem to the outside world.

    When i had eircom i ditched the netopia completely and had the Belkin plugged straight into the phone point. You would need login details and IP address from the Netopia first to put into the new modem.

    I simple dont rate anyones equipment.

    Ah, okay. Thanks for the info, nonethless.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    I had constant problems also with Eircom, not so much with the ps3 gaming but with it taking 15 hours to download an average 90 minute movie.... My 45 euro a month bill could have been better spent with another company...To any newcomers undecided on which ISP to choose, my honest advise is STAY AWAY FROM EIRCOM.

    You mean stay away from DSL really. Its not eircom per say, its that phone lines werent designed with the internet in mind. That line would be the same with Vodafone, Sky, UTV, etc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    Wow so that means a lot of households are pretty much goosed with their connections hmm? Think it's time I moved to the east, haha.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Within 2KM of an NGB exchange or in a fibre enabled area you're fine, outside that its totally hit and miss.

    A lot of people are happy with a 1-3Mb connection because they've known no other, but as sites get larger thats continually be less and less true.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    Yeah, we were like that. Actually starting to regret this upgrade but then we were moving with the changing times...


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Liquidchild


    Cheers for the replies! How difficult is it to get out of the 18 month contract I've signed with them so? Not looking for tips or anything illegal but your advice is appreciated! :-) The way I see it is I paid for a service I don't receive. So in my eyes, its THEM whom misled ME with the contract!!! And I'm in the process of leaving them because pardon my French, its complete BULL****!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Can't you put the ps3 in the DMZ? All ports will be forwarded.

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    listermint wrote: »
    Personally ive never found any providers modems to be particularly good.
    Sad, my provider here in Germany supplies a high end Fritzbox 7360 as standard. The modems I had in Ireland were all bargain basement ones though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,169 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    Cheers for the replies! How difficult is it to get out of the 18 month contract I've signed with them so? Not looking for tips or anything illegal but your advice is appreciated! :-) The way I see it is I paid for a service I don't receive. So in my eyes, its THEM whom misled ME with the contract!!! And I'm in the process of leaving them because pardon my French, its complete BULL****!

    It'd be easier to buy a decent modem and use that. There is one that works well, cant remember the make/model. Oh, its a Draytek!

    The service isnt the problem tbh, its just shocking gateways. UPC do the same shít unfortunately. If they paid for proper gear they'd save it on support calls.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    lmimmfn wrote: »
    Can't you put the ps3 in the DMZ? All ports will be forwarded.

    Just did this so fingers crossed my problems will end. Thanks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    Update; Nope, even after putting the ps3 in a DMZ, I got kicked out of PSN and errors galore. However, once I switched off the ps3 and switched it back on I was able to sign in again, so yeah.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    I'm curious, if I do wish to try portforwarding with this infernal thing, what are some recommended settings?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,553 ✭✭✭lmimmfn


    Rilgar wrote: »
    Update; Nope, even after putting the ps3 in a DMZ, I got kicked out of PSN and errors galore. However, once I switched off the ps3 and switched it back on I was able to sign in again, so yeah.
    after you configure the router, when moving stuff around i.e. to DMZ its best to reboot the router( normally required anyway, but reboot all clients to that router also ).

    Can you say if its still and issue following the PS3 reboot?

    Ignoring idiots who comment "far right" because they don't even know what it means



  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    I haven't been playing the ps3 much to report how it's been behaving since placed in a DMZ but when and if I do have something to report, I'll add it here.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Can you bridge the modem and add a better router? Consoles like plug and play, uPnP, where they forward their own ports through the firewall. I've never had an issue with any router that has plug and play enabled. Putting the console in the DMZ is not the answer, it is ok for TCP traffic originating on the console, but when random packets arrive at the router on the port used for gaming, the router has no idea where to send them and drops them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    smee again wrote: »
    Can you bridge the modem and add a better router? Consoles like plug and play, uPnP, where they forward their own ports through the firewall. I've never had an issue with any router that has plug and play enabled. Putting the console in the DMZ is not the answer, it is ok for TCP traffic originating on the console, but when random packets arrive at the router on the port used for gaming, the router has no idea where to send them and drops them.

    Wow, this is really helpful!

    Ah, bridging. For the moment, no, as the only other modem we have in the house is the old silver Netopia one previously got with eircom and we all know the line doesn't carry the signal for it any more (at least that's what I've been told?) That would explain the dodgy times I've been having online lately, as I've just tried it tonight and I'm having trouble connecting with other players, but the ps3 itself still seems to be signed into the playstation network.

    *Sigh* I guess I shall really have to invest in a better modem.

    Or another solution might be, considering I'm only having issue with the ps3, is to buy an AOSS router for it, since it seems to support this method. Although, will it be worth it, I wonder.

    I don't know. Desperately searching for solutions other than forking over more dosh to replace this deplorable piece of slag-tech.


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭diarmaidol


    Have you tired turning off the wireless on the F1000 and only using wired connections.

    I'm not suggesting it as a solution, however I think the bridging on the F1000 is very seriously broken. I would be interesting to know if it fixed you issue.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    I have gone with a wired connection simply to test it out and it does work but the position of the router relative to where I have my ps3 is very awkward (the router is on a table just inside the door, whereas the ps3 is upstairs).


  • Registered Users Posts: 105 ✭✭diarmaidol


    Right, I think you are being affected by the same issue I was having.

    I posted this in another thread which for me at least seems to make things better.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86508820&postcount=71


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    diarmaidol wrote: »
    Right, I think you are being affected by the same issue I was having.

    I posted this in another thread which for me at least seems to make things better.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=86508820&postcount=71

    I have just applied these changes, but won't be able to really test it out until later in the week. When I can, though, I'll again report back to see how things are fairing.

    Glad to know at last that there was some one else who's been experiencing this. I was really going mad and hopping off of Eircom an awful lot. I agree with what you said in that post, too, they should've, shall we say 'field tested' the router a lot more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    Well, here's an update I guess. It's the following day and, after turning on the router today, still experiencing disconnections, with a shiny new psn sign error code to boot. *Sigh*


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Rilgar wrote: »
    Well, here's an update I guess. It's the following day and, after turning on the router today, still experiencing disconnections, with a shiny new psn sign error code to boot. *Sigh*

    Can you bridge the modem and add a proper router?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    Is it worth buying a Fritz!Box?
    I've the Zyxel F1000 set up to bridge to my ASUS RT-N56 and it works fine for short periods of time until the ping doubles and packet loss starts, then the Zyxel goes into a reboot loop when I reset it because bridge mode causes a bug with DSL connecting while in bridge mode etc... etc..

    Have had nothing but trouble, even the old Zyxel p660 was great compared to this heap, at least bridge mode worked.
    Its worth noting that I have a beta firmware on it that Eircom pushed out to it but it still doesn't fix boot loop, random ping spikes, connection drops and periods-of-high-ping-for-no-reason-under-no-load.
    I've turned off everything, all the security and wireless, the only thing enabled is DSL and the bridged ethernet port. No improvement.

    Friend of mine just got a FritzBox with Smart telecoms fibre, I'll be checking it out for a while before looking at one myself.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Is it worth buying a Fritz!Box?
    I've the Zyxel F1000 set up to bridge to my ASUS RT-N56 and it works fine for short periods of time until the ping doubles and packet loss starts, then the Zyxel goes into a reboot loop when I reset it because bridge mode causes a bug with DSL connecting while in bridge mode etc... etc..
    Have had nothing but trouble, even the old Zyxel p660 was great compared to this heap, at least bridge mode worked.
    Its worth noting that I have a beta firmware on it that Eircom pushed out to it but it still doesn't fix boot loop, random ping spikes, connection drops and periods-of-high-ping-for-no-reason-under-no-load.
    Friend of mine just got a FritzBox with Smart telecoms fibre, I'll be checking it out for a while before looking at one myself.

    FritzBox is more of the same, generic household crap, see what I suggested in this thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057038212


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    smee again wrote: »
    FritzBox is more of the same, generic household crap, see what I suggested in this thread:
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057038212

    Ain't that a router though?
    My problem is the VDSL modem, the ASUS does its routing job alright for what I need. Just need a consistent modem to bridge to it really.


  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    smee again wrote: »
    Can you bridge the modem and add a proper router?

    Ain't got the mula to pay for another router to enact bridging to be honest. Plus, I doubt the thoughts of buying another router so soon wouldn't go down well in my house. Half the family is frigging technophobic, I swear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Ain't that a router though?
    My problem is the VDSL modem, the ASUS does its routing job alright for what I need. Just need a consistent modem to bridge to it really.

    Yes, I thought that us what you wanted. Is your Asus not dialling PPPoE, if so, I can't see how you're having problems as the modem wouldn[t be doing anything other than connecting ethernet rj45 to analogue rj11
    Rilgar wrote: »
    Ain't got the mula to pay for another router to enact bridging to be honest. Plus, I doubt the thoughts of buying another router so soon wouldn't go down well in my house. Half the family is frigging technophobic, I swear.

    You aint gonna fix it without adding better kit


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    smee again wrote: »
    Yes, I thought that us what you wanted. Is your Asus not dialling PPPoE, if so, I can't see how you're having problems as the modem wouldn[t be doing anything other than connecting ethernet rj45 to analogue rj11
    Yeah the ASUS is dialing IPoE, so it would make you wonder how the Zyxel is managing to effect ping, its 100% not the ASUS either because I was using it all summer on a different broadband connection at home and it was fine there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Yeah the ASUS is dialing IPoE, so it would make you wonder how the Zyxel is managing to effect ping, its 100% not the ASUS either because I was using it all summer on a different broadband connection at home and it was fine there.

    Doubtful it's the bridged modem when it's not doing anything. Are you plugged into the main socket? How are your line stats? There have been reports here of higher/erratic pings on VDSL
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=84782556


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  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    smee again wrote: »
    You aint gonna fix it without adding better kit

    Yeah, I was afraid someone was gonna say that. *Sigh* Guess I'll wait for the January sales for price drops or something.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Rilgar wrote: »
    Yeah, I was afraid someone was gonna say that. *Sigh* Guess I'll wait for the January sales for price drops or something.

    You could buy something like this, won't break the bank. You'll need to bridge the modem and add PPPoE settings to this router.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    smee again wrote: »
    Doubtful it's the bridged modem when it's not doing anything. Are you plugged into the main socket? How are your line stats? There have been reports here of higher/erratic pings on VDSL
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=84782556

    Its at the main socket, there's nothing else connected to the line.
    Here's 2 captures of the line stats I'm getting at the moment:
    http://i.imgur.com/quMpVXs.png
    http://i.imgur.com/Nw8bmQT.png
    Thing is, is this just the VDSL or is it the Zyxel? Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, I'm mainly wondering if there's any point replacing it.
    I'd try using just the Zyxel but seeing Rilgar's hassle with his PS3, I don't know if I could be bothered with that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Its at the main socket, there's nothing else connected to the line.
    Here's 2 captures of the line stats I'm getting at the moment:
    http://i.imgur.com/quMpVXs.png
    http://i.imgur.com/Nw8bmQT.png
    Thing is, is this just the VDSL or is it the Zyxel? Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, I'm mainly wondering if there's any point replacing it.
    I'd try using just the Zyxel but seeing Rilgar's hassle with his PS3, I don't know if I could be bothered with that.

    Let me guess, console gaming? See, the thing is about console gaming, is that there is no central server, it is hosted on one of the connections and the best connection one minute may not be the best connection later.

    Looks fine, how are you testing your ping? Ping www.inex.ie using command prompt
    In Windows, select Start > Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt.
    Enter the word ping, followed by a space, then www.inex.ie
    Paste results here
    You can run a longer ping with the -t parameter added at the end


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 391 ✭✭Tommy Lagahan


    smee again wrote: »
    Let me guess, console gaming? See, the thing is about console gaming, is that there is no central server, it is hosted on one of the connections and the best connection one minute may not be the best connection later.

    Looks fine, how are you testing your ping? Ping www.inex.ie using command prompt
    In Windows, select Start > Programs > Accessories > Command Prompt.
    Enter the word ping, followed by a space, then www.inex.ie
    Paste results here
    You can run a longer ping with the -t parameter added at the end

    Gaming on PS3 and PC, I know full well the woes of P2P matchmaking but I noticed the ping jump today when BF3 started acting up on PS3 and its dedicated servers as far as I know, anyway sure enough it was back up to 40ms to google with big spikes frequently.
    There wasn't any traffic other than the 40KB/s or so that BF3 uses, checked on the router's interface.
    I'm testing with a ping to google, this was the set of tests I did back when I got it installed first: http://imgur.com/a/4VRr8
    This is my latest few pings: http://i.imgur.com/h0k52Yu.png
    It just takes fits of doubling the ping every now and then that doesnt stop till you reboot the Zyxel.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Rilgar


    smee again wrote: »
    You could buy something like this, won't break the bank. You'll need to bridge the modem and add PPPoE settings to this router.

    Wow, that's a handy little device! This is going straight on the want list and shall purchase it when I can. Thanks!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    Gaming on PS3 and PC, I know full well the woes of P2P matchmaking but I noticed the ping jump today when BF3 started acting up on PS3 and its dedicated servers as far as I know, anyway sure enough it was back up to 40ms to google with big spikes frequently.
    There wasn't any traffic other than the 40KB/s or so that BF3 uses, checked on the router's interface.
    I'm testing with a ping to google, this was the set of tests I did back when I got it installed first: http://imgur.com/a/4VRr8
    This is my latest few pings: http://i.imgur.com/h0k52Yu.png
    It just takes fits of doubling the ping every now and then that doesnt stop till you reboot the Zyxel.

    I still wouldn't lie blame on the Zyxel, if it's bridged it's not actually doing anything. Rebooting it would force PPPoE on your Asus to get a different IP address. Next time try rebooting the Asus, see do you get the same temporary fix.
    Rilgar wrote: »
    Wow, that's a handy little device! This is going straight on the want list and shall purchase it when I can. Thanks!

    It's a cable router, you'll still need the modem and will need to figure how to bridge it. Someone else here may have done it before and advise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 233 ✭✭Boogietime


    Its at the main socket, there's nothing else connected to the line.
    Here's 2 captures of the line stats I'm getting at the moment:
    http://i.imgur.com/quMpVXs.png
    http://i.imgur.com/Nw8bmQT.png
    Thing is, is this just the VDSL or is it the Zyxel? Sorry if I'm derailing the thread, I'm mainly wondering if there's any point replacing it.
    I'd try using just the Zyxel but seeing Rilgar's hassle with his PS3, I don't know if I could be bothered with that.

    Tommy, here's a handy tip that'll save you the trip to the bank: set the MTU on the router to 1484. Knocking off those extra bytes of data will take the zyxel bootloop out of discussion. If it's stuck in a loop try to reset it (pin at the back) and then bridge it again but after you've changed that MTU on yer Asus. Enjoy! :)

    Rilgar, happy I could help, even if it was to that extent... Bridging to your netopia will be a good solution until you can afford a good n draft wifi router so think about that :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 980 ✭✭✭Freddy Smelly


    always use mtu 1484 on pppoe settings on your 3rd party router when bridging the f1000

    mtu 1484 will set the packet size to 16bit

    the f1000 prefers those packet sizes


  • Registered Users Posts: 25 daveh077


    Hi, I was wondering if you could provide some basic instructions so I could bridge my efibre router to my netopia, efibre's signal is terrible but the netopia reached the entire house.

    I have them cabled together just lacking the required settings to make it all work.

    If I do this and only use the netopia for wireless while having the efibre router to do just the routing do I still lose half my bandwidth like a traditional repeater would lose it?
    Boogietime wrote: »
    Tommy, here's a handy tip that'll save you the trip to the bank: set the MTU on the router to 1484. Knocking off those extra bytes of data will take the zyxel bootloop out of discussion. If it's stuck in a loop try to reset it (pin at the back) and then bridge it again but after you've changed that MTU on yer Asus. Enjoy! :)

    Rilgar, happy I could help, even if it was to that extent... Bridging to your netopia will be a good solution until you can afford a good n draft wifi router so think about that :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    smee again wrote: »
    FritzBox is more of the same, generic household crap
    Disagree with that tbh. AVM take the trouble to supply regular firmware upgrades even for older devices. They don't just fix bugs but add new functionality and so on. Their support pages are detailed and tech support is available (for free) from them.

    The FitzBoxes (at least the 73xx series) also do MUCH more than just perform as a modem/wireless router. My 7360 is also a fully functional PBX with many clever features. For example: I can add as many VoIP providers as I want to it and set up rules for outward dialing. I call my family back in Ireland and the FritzBox knows from the number that it should use a given VoIP provider (so the call actually costs me nothing and I don't have to fiddle around with prefix codes etc.)

    It also works well updating no-ip and other such free dynamic dns servers (very useful if you're using overplay smart dns to get around geo blocking and access iPlayer, Hulu etc.)

    The FritzBox also functions as a DECT base station, so you can move your "real" DECT base station to anywhere you want in the house. Doesn't have to be near the phone socket because you pair the handset to the FritzBox and just use the base station for charging.

    If you're not in the market for a DECT handset, AVM provide an Android/iOS app to turn your smartphone into one (for free). You can then use your smartphone to call out over your landline via your FritzBox!

    I can set up "callthrough" so I can dial my FritzBox, enter a PIN and then dial a further number (useful if I want to call internationally and have no 3G connection on my smartphone). Call forwarding based on rules is also useful: I can call my mobile for free from my FritzBox, so I have a rule set up that whn my family call my Irish VoIP number (for free-included in their bundle), my Fritzbox in Berlin will immediately redirect the call to my mobile: My family can call my German mobile for nothing from their landline and for the cost of a national rate call from their mobiles-thanks to the FritzBox.

    With a FritzBox you can also issue "guest WiFi passwords" so visitors can get internet access via the box but cannot access your internal network. You can also make these passwords expire after a set time.

    The FritzBox also functions as a NAS (when attached to a USB drive) if you so wish. It can also take a USB 3G dongle and allow all devices to access the internet via it (possibly useful during a dsl outage)

    That's a world away from some Zyxel thing supplied by Eircom.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    You're right, It may be better than the Zyxel, but it's still household grade. There is a massive difference between it and the Mikrotik, in cpu power, ram and wireless power. Mikrotik are an enterprise router and Mikrotik Routerboards are used by wireless providers for their core network for this reason. The overpriced Asus RT N66U I've seen recommended here lots of times is 200mW, the Mikrotik is 1000mW. Also, generic household routers have weaker cpu's and limit TCP connections so they don't get swamped with heavy bittorrent whereas the Mikrotik can handle whatever you throw at it as it's packet per second count is much higher.

    Click on routerboard on left and you see what they specialise in: http://routerboard.com/products

    Edit, I'm not saying the FritzBox is a poor router, just it isn't anywhere near the features or value for money of the Mikrotik


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    smee again wrote: »
    Edit, I'm not saying the FritzBox is a poor router, just it isn't anywhere near the features or value for money of the Mikrotik
    Which one of those RouterBoards would be comparable to say a FritzBox 7360 for its feature set? (sorry but there are many products listed on that page and you appear familiar with their line up)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭smee again


    murphaph wrote: »
    Which one of those RouterBoards would be comparable to say a FritzBox 7360 for its feature set? (sorry but there are many products listed on that page and you appear familiar with their line up)

    None come with a built in modem like the FritzBox, they make routers, so you'd need to bridge your existing modem. No telephony either, Mikrotik's expertise is in low cost routing and wireless, all for a lot less than a Cisco. The RB951 comes with 5x Gigabit and a USB port. The linux operating system (RouterOS) is really powerful and highly configurable, there are guides and scripts for whatever you need on here and their forum (very helpful community). It's an affordable wireless router that does all routing protocols (RIP, BGP, OSPF etc), layer 2 protocols (MPLS, L2TP, PPTP, EoIP etc) , vlans and switching protocols, virtual AP, hotspot, traffic queues, bandwidth shaping etc. even does MPLS where the cheapest Cisco to do MPLS costs thousands.

    The cheapest I can find the FritzBox is ~€150 + Shipping (average €200+), the RB951 €47 plus VAT and Shipping here: http://www.interprojekt.com.pl/mikrotik-routerboard-rb951g2hnd-level-128mb-p-1370.html

    Make no mistake, these are an enterprise router much like a Cisco, there is a huge learning curve, but it's worth it for all they can do. Trust me, these things are crazy value


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,031 ✭✭✭✭murphaph


    smee again wrote: »
    None come with a built in modem like the FritzBox, they make routers, so you'd need to bridge your existing modem. No telephony either, Mikrotik's expertise is in low cost routing and wireless, all for a lot less than a Cisco. The RB951 comes with 5x Gigabit and a USB port. The linux operating system (RouterOS) is really powerful and highly configurable, there are guides and scripts for whatever you need on here and their forum (very helpful community). It's an affordable wireless router that does all routing protocols (RIP, BGP, OSPF etc), layer 2 protocols (MPLS, L2TP, PPTP, EoIP etc) , vlans and switching protocols, virtual AP, hotspot, traffic queues, bandwidth shaping etc. even does MPLS where the cheapest Cisco to do MPLS costs thousands.

    The cheapest I can find the FritzBox is ~€150 + Shipping (average €200+), the RB951 €47 plus VAT and Shipping here: http://www.interprojekt.com.pl/mikrotik-routerboard-rb951g2hnd-level-128mb-p-1370.html

    Make no mistake, these are an enterprise router much like a Cisco, there is a huge learning curve, but it's worth it for all they can do. Trust me, these things are crazy value
    I think we're comparing apples and oranges, don't you? The 47 + vat excludes a case and power supply, right? You also have to add the cost of a modem and a PBX to the cost of the mikrotik to make any sort of fair price comparison!


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