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Israeli organ donors to get transplant priority

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  • #52
    RobbieTheRobber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    mikom wrote: »
    Scan, it'd be more in your line to start sticking a few commas or full stops in your sentences rather than rolling your eyes.

    So, you, cant, argue, with, my, statements, so, you, instead, complain, about, commas, and, fullstops!

    Well done sir you have proven how witty your original statement was by pointing out a lack of commas.


    Here is my fullstop quota for the day
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    and my comma quota
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    Now that should be more than enough! Take those commas and fullstops and whenever you read my comments and feel it needs one just come back here and use one of these.


  • #53
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,053 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    Doesnt this Discriminate?

    You have to address the number of issues that would make someone ineligible to be a donor. As one poster pointed out, this system would immediately discriminate homosexuals.


  • #54
    Kooli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Kooli


    Overheal wrote: »
    Doesnt this Discriminate?

    You have to address the number of issues that would make someone ineligible to be a donor. As one poster pointed out, this system would immediately discriminate homosexuals.

    Are you sure homosexuals can't be organ donors?


  • #55
    Overheal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85,053 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    No, But there are other examples im sure. Im not a doctor though :/


  • #56
    Kooli
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,312 ✭✭✭Kooli


    Overheal wrote: »
    No, But there are other examples im sure. Im not a doctor though :/

    Yes but if there is no screening to become a donor (i.e. you just have to carry a donor card), then there is no discrimination.

    After you're dead, the doctors can discriminate all they want and turn down the organs. But what matters is that you agreed to hand them over.


  • #57
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    Kooli wrote: »
    I think organ donation and blood donation are totally different and should be treated as such.

    For organ donation, I'm all for it. You have to agree to give yours up before you can ask for someone else's.

    But blood is different. For a start, too many of us are excluded. Secondly, people may not want to donate blood for other reasons (fear of needles etc.), which I don't think is enough of a crime to withhold blood from them in case of emergency.

    But donating your organs costs you absolutely nothing, so it should be the norm rather than the exception.

    Excellent post


  • #58
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    hooradiation wrote: »
    I don't know about you guys, but i totally hate the Jews.

    who do they think they are, living in igloo like they're all kinds special....


    Seriously?.


  • #59
    NothingMan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,178 ✭✭✭✭NothingMan


    Paula Damaged Milkshake wrote: »
    Seriously?.

    I was going to make some quip about you in your igloo. Then I remebered that's really you in your avatar.

    Lookin good today sir.


  • #60
    givyjoe81
    Closed Accounts Posts: 690 ✭✭✭givyjoe81


    RobbieTheRobber wrote: »
    Very good attempt at distraction, what other assumption would you suggest I take from these comments?

    Mountain out of mole hill perhaps MR Serious?!


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  • #61
    RobbieTheRobber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    givyjoe81 wrote: »
    Mountain out of mole hill perhaps MR Serious?!

    Well no seeing as it took relatively little effort on my part to point those things out, I dont see how I made a mountain out of it and I haven't yet called for a tribunal into the comments made.

    However I do thank you for pointing out to me, that i was pointing out something and that by pointing out something, other people could percieve that as being me making something out of something else, such as in your example mountains or mole hills or perhaps even cake.

    Yours
    Very :confused:


  • #62
    The Saint
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,932 ✭✭✭The Saint


    Interesting idea. Although I'm sure there would have to be other crteria. It would be a bit of a joke if George Best got a liver just because he had an organ donor card.


  • #63
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    RobbieTheRobber wrote: »

    However I do thank you for pointing out to me, that i was pointing out something and that by pointing out something, other people could percieve that as being me making something out of something else, such as in your example mountains or mole hills or perhaps even cake.

    Yours
    Very :confused:

    Which one are you, Meekus or Brint?


  • #64
    RobbieTheRobber
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,844 ✭✭✭RobbieTheRobber


    mikom wrote: »
    Which one are you, Meekus or Brint?

    First its about commas now its about zoolander, do you have an issue with me?
    Are you gong to just quote me and make silly comments?


    bbbbbbb comma's :rolleyes:


    Eagerly awaiting your reply! :rolleyes:


  • #65
    cmcd
    Closed Accounts Posts: 25 ✭cmcd


    Robbie you are not much craic for a robber. This is after hours, it was pointed out to you already.Go easy on the :rolleyes: you might do yourself an injury.


  • #66
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Should be implemented here along with a reward scheme (of some type) for blood donation.

    There already is a "reward"

    Regular blood donors are exempt from the BTSB "service charge"

    Prioritising organ donors does not discriminate against homosexuals or those whose organs are unsuitable for donation since anyone can register as an organ donor and a decision on the useability of their organs is not made until they are dead (even if unsuitable for transplant they can still be used for research)
    amacachi wrote: »
    Until the carrying of a donor card overrides the next-of-kins right to decide what happens to someone's organs I won't be carrying a card.
    Why

    You (and I) may disagree with the possibility but your manner of protesting it amounts (at best) to throwing your toys out of the pram and (at worst) amounts denying life saving treatment to one (or more) people in order to make some kind of point ?
    Cookie_Monster wrote: »
    I don't want no homo blood in me...
    Fine. They can let you die and give the blood to a worthier recipient


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  • #67
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Ta decision on the useability of their organs is not made until they are dead (even if unsuitable for transplant they can still be used for research)


    Actually an organ can not be transplanted from a dead person!.


  • #68
    Mike 1972
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,018 ✭✭✭Mike 1972


    Paula Damaged Milkshake wrote: »
    Actually an organ can not be transplanted from a dead person!.

    Actually you are talking through your vagina


  • #69
    arybvtcw0eolkf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Actually you are talking through your vagina

    Really, pray tell?.

    Although in about a nano second I'll have forgotten about you & can't promise to read your reply, but pray tell all the same.


  • #70
    Naos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,738 ✭✭✭Naos


    No idea if it's been said or not:

    What would stop me signing up and then letting my next of kin know that it's actually just a fraud and they are not to let anyone take my organs when I die?


  • #71
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    RobbieTheRobber wrote: »
    Very good attempt at distraction,

    Distraction from what?
    RobbieTheRobber wrote: »
    what other assumption would you suggest I take from these comments?

    A certain antipathy towards the Israeli state....


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  • #72
    Bottle_of_Smoke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,770 ✭✭✭Bottle_of_Smoke


    toiletduck wrote: »
    Fine, I should give my posts the same attention as a legal document in future. It's rather pedantic to get bogged down in I think. In future I'll make sure to use "MSM" (Men who have sex with Men). Happy? :pac:

    I think it should be challenged anyways.

    I'm not being pedantic, its just the way you were referring to it makes it out to be homophobia when its actually a safety measure.


  • #73
    SomeDose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭SomeDose


    Mike 1972 wrote:
    Prioritising organ donors does not discriminate against homosexuals or those whose organs are unsuitable for donation since anyone can register as an organ donor and a decision on the useability of their organs is not made until they are dead (even if unsuitable for transplant they can still be used for research)
    Paula Damaged Milkshake wrote: »
    Actually an organ can not be transplanted from a dead person!.

    You guys are both incorrect! Organs for donation can be harvested from both live and deceased (cadaveric) donors. Obviously only certain organs permit transplants from live donors, the kidney being the best example. Deceased donors are further sub-divided into "heartbeating" and "non-heartbeating", meaning that although they are clinically and legally dead, the heart may be kept beating in order to maintain a healthy blood supply to the organ for as long as possible (heartbeating donor). A non-heartbeating donor would be someone who dies suddenly and has no heart beat at the time of harvesting, a car crash victim for example.


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