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Student died after heavy drinking session

  • 04-11-2010 7:00pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,992 ✭✭✭✭gurramok


    Crazy stuff:eek:. I wonder will anyone else take heed of binge drinking like this?.:confused:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2010/1104/murphyg.html
    rte wrote:
    An inquest in Cork has been told how a 19-year-old student died after he drank what was described as a lethal amount of alcohol.

    The coroner's court was told that paramedics could not resuscitate Gary Murphy from Palm Drive, Grantstown Village, Waterford, when they were called to his apartment by friends with whom he had been drinking.

    He died ten days later at Cork University Hospital.

    Mr Murphy, a second-year Arts student at University College Cork, was a keen hurler, and was a member of the Ballygunner U-21 team that won the Waterford Championship on 5 December last year.

    The following night they returned to Cork to celebrate their win, and a number of them gathered in Mr Murphy's apartment at Victoria Mills, Victoria Cross, in Cork.

    Mr Murphy was drinking cans of beer. He and his friends started a drinking game which involved pulling a card from a deck of playing cards and drinking different amounts of alcohol, depending on the card picked.

    The inquest at Cork City Coroner's Court was told that Mr Murphy had more than ten cans of beer before he started drinking vodka neat from a one-litre bottle.

    Some of his friends put down money and dared him to drink about a quarter of a litre of the alcohol straight.

    He drank around half a litre of vodka in total, in addition to the beer he had drunk earlier.

    He became drunk, and fell on a coffee table in the apartment and on the concrete floor of the balcony outside.

    He was asleep on a couch when some of his friends removed his clothes.

    He was put into an elevator naked and sent up a number of floors before the elevator returned. He was then put to bed. Two more friends then shaved off one of his eyebrows.

    Minutes later one of his friends noticed that Mr Murphy's lips had turned blue.

    He was placed in the recovery position and an ambulance was called. He was removed to Cork University Hospital but slipped into a coma.

    He died ten days later of bronchial pneumonia. The jury returned a verdict of death by misadventure.

    Coroner Dr Myra Cullinane described Mr Murphy's death as an unbearable loss. She said the facts of the case were a testament to the risks associated with high alcohol intake.

    Speaking at the inquest, Mr Murphy's father Liam said his son's death had devastated their family.

    He said Gary loved life, he loved hurling, student life and UCC. He said he missed him terribly but also had great memories.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Wonder will alcohol be banned like legal highs now? :rolleyes:


    Shocking stuff all the same


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    Im not saying anything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,101 ✭✭✭MitchKoobski


    Jesus Christ RTÉ I'm sure the family aren't exactly okay with all those details being made public...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Lightweight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,150 ✭✭✭.E_C_K_S.


    Very sad to hear.
    Has definitely put me off drinking games especially with that amount of vodka involved!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Lightweight

    ooooo too soon i'd say


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    What did he think was going to happen?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    That story is so hard to read. His poor family.

    I remember, when i was in college, being part of a society. We used to get money from the students union but only for drinking events. One time i organised a trip to the National Gallery with a bunch from the society and remember being refused point blank when i asked for funding for the trip because there would be no alcohol involved!:eek:

    Sadly, college life, especially in the first few years, revolves around gettin p*ssed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Jesus Christ RTÉ I'm sure the family aren't exactly okay with all those details being made public...

    Common knowledge tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    orourkeda wrote: »
    What did he think was going to happen?
    Probably that he would get drunk and have a good time and do some stupid things and wake up in the morning with an awful hangover. Not die.

    Anyway, I think it was unprofessional of RTE to broadcast the precise sequence of events that took place after he passed out. Nobody needed to know that he was put naked in an elevator or had his eyebrow shaved off. It's just more unnecessary pain and humiliation for the family.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    Don't see what makes this newsworthy.

    Have had some mates who choked on their own vomit and died and it never made the news.

    Happens regularly enough I would have thought.
    Happens, but when do we ever really hear the details?
    If this prevents one student from binging in the same way, then i think it is very newsworthy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    rebel10 wrote: »
    Sadly, college life, especially in the first few years, revolves around gettin p*ssed.

    but most courses are only 3 years long :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    Saila wrote: »
    but most courses are only 3 years long :confused:
    No many are four years.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,562 ✭✭✭scientific1982


    orourkeda wrote: »
    What did he think was going to happen?
    I doubt he thought he was going to die.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    rebel10 wrote: »
    No many are four years.


    no but many are 3 years, see what I did there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,698 ✭✭✭✭Princess Peach


    Imagine how his friends feel


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Saila wrote: »
    no but many are 3 years, see what I did there.

    The vast majority of courses are 4 years or more.

    Now shush.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,564 ✭✭✭✭whiskeyman


    Jesus Christ RTÉ I'm sure the family aren't exactly okay with all those details being made public...
    I reckon and hope they've advocated the details are reported.
    It sounds like many a crazy night on the rip many of us have had or seen, but never really think of the consequences. Maybe his death being reported will make someone think twice from doing such a dare or peer pressuring someone to do such.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭PanchoVilla


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Lightweight

    Now I know this is AH and you wanna look cool in front of all your mates but that's completely uncalled for. A kid just died, don't be such a dick.

    I wonder if they'll consider banning alcohol now seeing as they banned mushrooms a couple of days after one guy decided to jump off a roof a few years ago. I don't think there had been any mushroom related fatalities recorded in this country up until that point. I heard the man in the following article was actually completely pissed and only took a small amount of mushrooms.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article722171.ece


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    M5 wrote: »
    Wonder will alcohol be banned like legal highs now? :rolleyes:


    Shocking stuff all the same


    We should ban all headshops that sell alcohol.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,775 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Now I know this is AH and you wanna look cool in front of all your mates but that's completely uncalled for. A kid just died, don't be such a dick.

    I wonder if they'll consider banning alcohol now seeing as they banned mushrooms a couple of days after one guy decided to jump off a roof a few years ago. I don't think there had been any mushroom related fatalities recorded in this country up until that point.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article722171.ece

    Just for the record, this didn't happen recently - it was a year or more ago iirc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    Saila wrote: »
    no but many are 3 years, see what I did there.
    I.T.'s have 3 year courses
    Universities, most are 4 years.
    This is off the point and kind of pointless really


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,675 ✭✭✭TechnoPool


    10 cans and a litre of vodka? arent these students supposed to be broke?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 613 ✭✭✭Misanthrope


    Now I know this is AH and you wanna look cool in front of all your mates but that's completely uncalled for. A kid just died, don't be such a dick.

    I wonder if they'll consider banning alcohol now seeing as they banned mushrooms a couple of days after one guy decided to jump off a roof a few years ago. I don't think there had been any mushroom related fatalities recorded in this country up until that point. I heard the man in the following article was actually completely pissed and only took a small amount of mushrooms.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/ireland/article722171.ece


    When you think you can fly,you usually try to take off from the ground first not off a balcony


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    rebel10 wrote: »
    If this prevents one student from binging in the same way, then i think it is very newsworthy.

    I think and hope it might stop some fcuking idiots from striping their mate and leaving him open to getting pneumonia, but I doubt it will stop binge drinking, as young people see what is happening around them and act accordingly.

    When they see young Joe Bloggs knocking back half a dozen JD's and a few pints and yet still out and about the next night, then they too will do the same as they will see that there is apparently no consequence.

    Same works for drugs unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Just for the record, this didn't happen recently - it was a year or more ago iirc.
    No, but the inquest was held today and many that knew him would probably not have known the full details surrounding his death.
    Just because this happened a year ago does not make it ok to joke about. He was only 19 FFS!:(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭PanchoVilla


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Just for the record, this didn't happen recently - it was a year or more ago iirc.
    after one guy decided to jump off a roof a few years ago.
    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Let's face it. We've all (or most of us) done this crap. Drinking till we drop literally into blackout mode. Drinking enough beer to float a battleship and then thinking it would be a great idea to suck down something even stronger like whiskey, or vodka or fcuking turps (almost). The human body can take a tremendous battering but sadly there are so many young bodies that go into shutdown mode.
    I don't know what the solution is. Maybe people could take a medical test when they're teenagers to see if they are more prone to alcohol poisoning than others? Maybe some people might have a congenital kidney or liver weakness that they don't know about and that a few blood tests would reveal so that they could be less reckless with booze.

    But I think what's most important of all is that young people are taught early how to drink and how to gauge the rate at which they're getting drunk. If they can have a few beers with the family once in a while to practice knowing when and how soon intoxication starts to kick in then they wouldn't be so eager to neck a half-litre of vodka because they're not getting "buzzed" immediately.
    My first time getting drunk I drank a pint mixture of vodka, gin, poteen and ETHANOL that my friend kept his dead scorpions in. Because the first few mouthfuls of this revolting Molotov cocktail didn't get me drunk immediately, I drank more of it. Within 45 minutes to an hour I was oblivious. Eventually picked up by the gardai and brought to a neighbour's house where they induced vomiting and then put me to bed and kept watch over me. I was 14. That was a shameful episode. I've seen it in Amsterdam too. People come and have a space-cake. Nothing happens for 40 minutes so they do another one. 10 minutes later they are like something out of One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest. Just taking a little bit and waiting patiently would spare them having an experience that resembles a horror movie.

    In Holland you are allowed into a pub at 16 to drink but are only allowed beer. No hard stuff until you are 18. consequently Dutch teenagers (who like to get drunk) don't hide in a field quaffing a Litre bottle of Smirnoff Blue. They learn what their beer limit is in a controlled environment.

    Getting pissed is great fun especially when you're young. But getting palatic on paint-stripper spirits like gin and vodka is downright dangerous and young people should be educated that these drinks are not EVER supposed to be guzzled like beer. They should be mixed and sipped slowly.

    Condolensces to the family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    I wonder if they'll consider banning alcohol now seeing as they banned mushrooms a couple of days after one guy decided to jump off a roof a few years ago....

    Did he take the equivalent of half a litre of vodka and 5 litres of beer worth of mushrooms? Just as this thread should not be about taking the piss out of the young lad involved it shouldn't be about trying to score some stupid f*cking points about alcohol v mushrooms v headshops or anything of the sort. Heed your own advice.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    I think and hope it might stop some fcuking idiots from striping their mate and leaving him open to getting pneumonia, but I doubt it will stop binge drinking, as young people see what is happening around them and act accordingly.

    When they see young Joe Bloggs knocking back half a dozen JD's and a few pints and yet still out and about the next night, then they too will do the same as they will see that there is apparently no consequence.

    Same works for drugs unfortunately.
    I disagree. Think of all the students out there that would consider what he drank as being managable.:eek: Think of the idiots on here thinking the same. If this makes just one student, which it certainly will in UCC anyway, think about the amount they have drunk and limit it, then the media has done ok here i think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭PanchoVilla


    When you think you can fly,you usually try to take off from the ground first not off a balcony

    I personally think there was a lot more to that story than some guy taking a few mushrooms. I've know lots of people that have been out of their head on mushrooms and not one ever thought they could fly. That doesn't even happen with LSD. The only drug I know of that would have that effect is PCP and that's not particularly popular is this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    TBH, his friends probably caused this, not by daring him, but I bet they didn't put him in a proper sleeping position when he was in bed!

    One does not die from half a litre of vodka and 10 beers. One may pass out, and choke if in a bad position though.

    I am not trying to act the big man, when I say I have drank far more than that and slept in the correct position to not die. If someone else puts you in a position then there is a higher risk of death I would think because they don't sense your discomfort!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭Fremen


    OutlawPete wrote: »
    I think and hope it might stop some fcuking idiots from striping their mate and leaving him open to getting pneumonia...

    Being naked in a lift didn't cause pneumonia - in order to get it, you need to be very unlucky, or your immune system needs to be f*cked already. The reason he got it was that he was in a coma. See here.

    It was just a typical student night out that went badly wrong because of a little poor judgement. I feel bad for the kid's family.




  • I never, ever understood this crap about shaving off eyebrows and stripping people naked. I'm not boring or anything, I love a good session, but what is funny about humiliating someone who is supposed to be a friend? When a friend of mine gets too drunk, my instinct is to look after them, put a blanket on them and leave them alone, not assault them. But I guess it's just 'having a laugh' in these idiots' eyes. Who needs enemies...? :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,739 ✭✭✭✭minidazzler


    I personally think there was a lot more to that story than some guy taking a few mushrooms. I've know lots of people that have been out of their head on mushrooms and not one ever thought they could fly. That doesn't even happen with LSD. The only drug I know of that would have that effect is PCP and that's not particularly popular is this country.

    And besides, if they think they can fly, why don't they just take off from the ground first, test it out, you know, like birds do! :D


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  • Posts: 0 CMod ✭✭✭✭ Martin Echoing Teenager


    gurramok wrote: »
    Crazy stuff:eek:. I wonder will anyone else take heed of binge drinking like this?.:confused:

    No, because it'll never happen to me :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,053 ✭✭✭PanchoVilla


    prinz wrote: »
    Did he take the equivalent of half a litre of vodka and 5 litres of beer worth of mushrooms? Just as this thread should not be about taking the piss out of the young lad involved it shouldn't be about trying to score some stupid f*cking points about alcohol v mushrooms v headshops or anything of the sort. Heed your own advice.

    Eh? I only brought up mushrooms because the government banned them because they believed mushrooms were the cause of a suicide. Now we know for a fact that alcohol causes numerous deaths/suicides annually but there's never a call for a ban. So why the hypocrisy? Maybe it has something to do with the massive amount of money the drinks industry makes in this country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭Sheeps


    BAN ALOCHOL


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 53 ✭✭postgrad23


    I never, ever understood this crap about shaving off eyebrows and stripping people naked. I'm not boring or anything, I love a good session, but what is funny about humiliating someone who is supposed to be a friend? When a friend of mine gets too drunk, my instinct is to look after them, put a blanket on them and leave them alone, not assault them. But I guess it's just 'having a laugh' in these idiots' eyes. Who needs enemies...? :rolleyes:

    I found that part of the story the most upsetting. They must feel terrible about what they did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,689 ✭✭✭✭OutlawPete


    rebel10 wrote: »
    I disagree. Think of all the students out there that would consider what he drank as being managable.:eek: Think of the idiots on here thinking the same. If this makes just one student, which it certainly will in UCC anyway, think about the amount they have drunk and limit it, then the media has done ok here i think.

    I wasn't talking about the media, more the thread :p

    I'd be for the media reporting it more if they want.

    I just think young people will blame the idiot mates as the cause of death, not the alcohol.

    Not that I'm blaming them mind, we all make mistakes in life and I guess they were drunk themselves at the time.

    Had a friend who went to sleep on the sofa and choked on his own vomit and died and another mate that the same happened to after just three pints when he was 20 (he was on antibiotics) at the time.

    If highlighted this story helps, cool.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,125 ✭✭✭talla10


    Nice friends!! wonder did he ever collect his winnings...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    postgrad23 wrote: »
    I found that part of the story the most upsetting. They must feel terrible about what they did.
    Agree with you.:( Can you even begin to imagine...
    They, i presume, were around the same age. I work with boys around the same age as them and honestly they don't realise the possible consequences of some of the stuff they do. After this story, maybe a few will.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,288 ✭✭✭✭ntlbell


    I didn't read the rte link but breakingnews.ie said it was 1/4 of a bottle of vodka , is 250ml of vodka a lot in one whack?

    seems like a very small amount of drink to kill someone.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭evercloserunion


    ntlbell wrote: »
    I didn't read the rte link but breakingnews.ie said it was 1/4 of a bottle of vodka , is 250ml of vodka a lot in one whack?

    seems like a very small amount of drink to kill someone.
    RTE says he ended up drinking a litre of vodka on top of some beer he had had previously.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,038 ✭✭✭jackiebaron


    Probably that he would get drunk and have a good time and do some stupid things and wake up in the morning with an awful hangover. Not die.

    Anyway, I think it was unprofessional of RTE to broadcast the precise sequence of events that took place after he passed out. Nobody needed to know that he was put naked in an elevator or had his eyebrow shaved off. It's just more unnecessary pain and humiliation for the family.

    I don't think the details of their drunken pranks would cause pain and humiliation. These kind of silly antics happen all the time during teenage drinking sessions.
    So he was pranked by his mates who no doubtedly loved and miss him. It's not like he was murdered and tortured and grisly details of what was done to him were made known adding to the family anguish.
    The tragedy of a young man's unecessary death far outweighs a few details about the horseplay and tomfoolery at the party.
    A little bit of clarity and perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    rebel10 wrote: »
    I remember, when i was in college, being part of a society. We used to get money from the students union but only for drinking events. One time i organised a trip to the National Gallery with a bunch from the society and remember being refused point blank when i asked for funding for the trip because there would be no alcohol involved!:eek:
    What??

    If anything, there has been a big push over the last number of years from colleges / student services (source of society funding) / student unions to curtail any perception of encouraging drinking, even at the most harmless level.

    What college are you talking about?
    rebel10 wrote: »
    I.T.'s have 3 year courses
    Universities, most are 4 years.
    Em ... no.

    Degrees in universities can be 3 years or 4 years, depending on the faculty (leaving aside unusual ones like medicine / dentistry / pharmacy).

    IoTs for the most part have ...

    ... 2 year courses (Higher Certificates)
    ... 3 year courses (Ordinary Degree)
    ... 4 year courses (Honours Degree)

    It is normally possible to progress from Higher Cert. to ordinary degree to honours degree.

    If anything, 3 year courses are more common in Universities, 4 year in IoTs.

    You seem to be throwing a lot of information out there which is questionable as to its accuracy for a student / former student tbh.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,080 ✭✭✭Gunsfortoys


    I knew the self-righteous majority would rear their heads on this.:rolleyes:

    We were all young once and did things we are not proud of and I doubt his mates wanted him to die. So get off your high horses.

    I think kids, should be taught at an early age of the effects of drugs and alcohol in order to make an informed decision for themselves. I am sick and tired of people thinking they can point their fingers at others and say "well what did he expect" or "that would never happen to me" as if to say they lead cosy, mistake free lives.

    RIP and I hope lessons are learned from this.




  • ntlbell wrote: »
    I didn't read the rte link but breakingnews.ie said it was 1/4 of a bottle of vodka , is 250ml of vodka a lot in one whack?

    seems like a very small amount of drink to kill someone.

    Not at all, I'm sure I've had more than that in one go, after other drinks, but it really does affect everyone differently. I have a friend who's practically comatose after a few strong pints. Makes a difference how much you've eaten that day, all sorts of things. The important thing is to look out for your friends instead of acting like a total selfish twat. Imagine if they'd told him to take it easy and have some water instead of egging him on for their own entertainment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,047 ✭✭✭rebel10


    What??

    If anything, there has been a big push over the last number of years from colleges / student services (source of society funding) / student unions to curtail any perception of encouraging drinking, even at the most harmless level.

    What college are you talking about?

    Em ... no.

    Degrees in universities can be 3 years or 4 years, depending on the faculty (leaving aside unusual ones like medicine / dentistry / pharmacy).

    IoTs for the most part have ...

    ... 2 year courses (Higher Certificates)
    ... 3 year courses (Ordinary Degree)
    ... 4 year courses (Honours Degree)

    It is normally possible to progress from Higher Cert. to ordinary degree to honours degree.

    If anything, 3 year courses are more common in Universities, 4 year in IoTs.

    You seem to be throwing a lot of information out there which is questionable as to its accuracy for a student / former student tbh.
    Sorry but i just couldn't be bothered going into details about something that was kinda irrelevant. The courses have changed since i went to college, I received a diploma after 3 years and my degree after 4.
    I went to CIT. That was 8 years ago, so perhaps alot has changed in terms of funding for societies in the colleges, but this was my experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,386 ✭✭✭✭Ghost Train


    Not at all, I'm sure I've had more than that in one go, after other drinks, but it really does affect everyone differently. I have a friend who's practically comatose after a few strong pints. Makes a difference how much you've eaten that day, all sorts of things. The important thing is to look out for your friends instead of acting like a total selfish twat. Imagine if they'd told him to take it easy and have some water instead of egging him on for their own entertainment.

    The friends do come out of this looking bad but they did call for help when they realised it was more serious. For all they knew he was just sleeping. Hopefully it will make people take more care in future, very sad for the friends and family in this case though


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