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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    shavins wrote: »
    so propecia is unsafe?am trying viviscal from tomorrow-does anyone know if it is a waste of time or worth a go?Thanks
    he there i went to my dermatologist 3 weeks ago and she prescribed me proscar which i cut into quarters to give me 1.25mg of finasteride a day. its only like 25euro for 6months supply. Its the same as propcia. She told me the drug is very safe and has been around for over 20 years so it has a good safety profile. i have been on it 3 weeks but it takes up to a year to notice any benefits. This shave your head thing is an idiotic comment as some people me included just look terrible bald. As briang said try it and see thats what i am doing anyway and hopefully in few years something better will come along and i will have maintained what i have. There is sides to all drugs and in a tiny percenatge as with this drug.


  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭owen85


    so its an idiotic idea to shave your head if it suits some? well done lad, perhaps that proscar stuff is making you irritated.

    anyway, to everyone else, if couldnt imagine ever being bald, i thought id look awful, but decided to just give it a go and sure if i hated it, it would grow back soon enough and i could go down another route. so perhaps it will work for you too, perhaps not.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,611 ✭✭✭iebamm2580


    owen85 wrote: »
    so its an idiotic idea to shave your head if it suits some? well done lad, perhaps that proscar stuff is making you irritated.

    anyway, to everyone else, if couldnt imagine ever being bald, i thought id look awful, but decided to just give it a go and sure if i hated it, it would grow back soon enough and i could go down another route. so perhaps it will work for you too, perhaps not.

    Its idiotic in the sense that you did not give the poster any other options but to shave it off which i vbelieve is not a fair comment. of course some people look good with the shaved look but for the vast majority of irish men it does not. I m not trying to have an argument im just letting a poster know that there are options.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭Lenin Skynard


    I completely agree with you. Every time someone is losing their hair you hear this chorus of "OMG the horror! Better shave your whole head clean before anyone notices your filthy hairline!"

    Sure, a zero blade suits some people, whether or not they're balding but there's certainly nothing shameful about having a receding hairline or being bald without being buzzed. Thankfully enough I haven't gone bald but if I do then I won't be running to grab the razor blades, bad enough having having to do the face all the time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,797 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    After six years of using propecia with no side effects, I starting developing man boobs quite rapidly, despite the fact that I'm thin. No amount of exercise or fat cutting could change the shape that was forming and it was super noticeable and unnatural-looking on every type of clothing I wore on upper body. Slowly tapered off propecia entirely and got examined, was diagnosed with pseudo-gynecomastia, meaning that no breast tissue had yet formed, thank god.

    Ended up getting laser lipo (most uncomfortable experience of my life) for around €2800, which wasn't a bad price but I'm not 100% satisfied with my results, nearly five months later. It annoys me that to prohibit hair transplant surgery, I ended up going down a route that ended in a different type of surgery due to side effects.

    Long story short: my advice is to not use propecia. Even if you haven't experienced any side effects, that could change quite quickly. As far I'm aware, with erectile issues, they fade once you stop using propecia, but in the case of unnatural fatty deposits or breast tissue on your chest, you will need surgery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Nappy


    Yea Stay away from anything that effects your hormones or medication in general. Laser Hair therapy can prevent further baldness. You can keep what you have essentially.


  • Registered Users Posts: 402 ✭✭BrianG23


    Am still using that Spiro and still see no 'worthy' results but if I start regrowing properly i'll get back to ya's. If it ends up working it is a viable alternative to Propecia because well -> There is no chance of sides.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 329 ✭✭Nappy




  • Registered Users Posts: 69 ✭✭ragnarl


    Fin, Dut, Minox or SMP as a last measure.

    Google is your friend


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭chopper6




  • Registered Users Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Reebrock


    Stone Cold Steve Austin got a buzz cut because he was going bald. I wonder if he would have had credibility as "Stone Cold" is he was just some guy with a receeding hairline. Random thought...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    I made a post about Propecia in another thread.

    This poison should be taking off the market.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=92148912&postcount=28


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    Also here's another great article by Dr Andrew Rynne on Propecia.

    http://medicaladviceforyou.com/baldness-cure/

    Baldness is natural

    Male Pattern Baldness - the statistics
    The global statistics for male pattern baldness or hair loss are quite staggering and of course speak for themselves:
    • 40% of men will have noticeable hair loss by age 35.
    • 60% of men will have noticeable hair loss by age 60.
    • 70% of men will have noticeable hair loss by age 80.
    • The hair transplant business in America is worth $ 1.3 billion annually.
    • In 2010 worldwide 279,381 men had surgical hair transplants.

    So what does all this tell you? It should tell you quite simply that male pattern baldness is a normal age related phenomena. It should tell you that it is not a disease or a condition that requires medical treatment. That said, it also shows that there are an awful lot of men out there who simply do not accept this testosterone and age related natural phenomena. And equally, there are plenty of doctors out there who are all too ready to exploit this weakness in men’s self-image and confidence.
    An inability to accept yourself as you are reflects a lack of self confidence or self esteem. It comes from within not from without. As Eleanor Roosevelt so wisely pointed out: “No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.” When I see a bald man walk into a room I see self confidence and someone to be admired. When I see a man walk into a room wearing an ill-fitting toupee I see weakness and I feel sorry for him. I have always counselled patients that if they are having self esteem issues as a result of baldness then the first point of remedy should be a psychotherapist rather than a doctor.


    Baldness cure - Propecia, Proscar or Finasteride

    This drug group was designed and licensed to treat Benign Prostate Hyperplasia and to slow down the progress of metastatic prostate cancer. Its action is to block the conversion of Testosterone into Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) which is the potent active form of this androgen or sex hormone. In a word, Finasteride renders testosterone useless. Once the testosterone can’t act on the hair follicles it slows down the balding process. It does have side effects though.

    The sexual side-effects of Finasteride

    The sexual side-effects of Finasteride may appear while the man is taking it or, more usually, when he stops taking it. To say that these side-effects go away when the man stops taking Finasteride is a lie peddled by those making a fortune in prescribing it. The sexual side-effects of Finasteride remain on indefinitely and there is, as yet, no cure or proper understanding of them. Symptoms of Post Propecia Syndrome vary a lot from victim to victim but the chief ones would be:
    • Total loss of libido or sex drive.
    • Loss of nocturnal or spontaneous erections.
    • Penile numbness.
    • Testicular atrophy.
    • Erectile dysfunction.
    • Sexual Adhedonia or the inability to experience any pleasure from sexual stimulation or ejaculation.
    • Insomnia, anxiety, brain fog and depression leading to suicide.
    • Urinary frequency disturbing night’s sleep.
    What percent of men taking Finasteride develop Post Propecia Syndrome? As yet we do not have accurate figures for this question. It could be as high as 2% but does that matter? If only one man in a thousand developed this horrible, hideous life sapping disease then that, in my opinion would be one too many. I would not recommend taking Finasteride as a treatment for male pattern baldness but rather consult with your doctor on alternative treatment options. If you would like to gain a professional medical opinion on how best to deal with balding then use the link to contact us for free.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,413 ✭✭✭funkey_monkey


    So what is in the pipeline as an alternative?

    Do we have any at the minute? There is always talk of next generation treatments most of which seem to be based on stem cell treatment.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,294 ✭✭✭Jumboman


    So what is in the pipeline as an alternative?

    Do we have any at the minute? There is always talk of next generation treatments most of which seem to be based on stem cell treatment.


    They are looking at using an Arthritis drug to treat hair loss.

    I think this is also a bad idea god knows what side effects will come from that drug if its used to treat hair loss.

    http://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/hair-loss/news/20140620/hairless-man-now-hairy-thanks-to-arthritis-drug


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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 10,571 Mod ✭✭✭✭Robbo


    Lads, we're onto medical advice territory here. I'll have to lock it.


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