Disappointed.... sky go related

listermint wrote: »

Use it on a laptop instead ? genius as it sounds..

Did all that before, a lot of dragging cables and laptops around, would be much easier to just bring up the phone ya know....

120_Minutes wrote: »

it's called "protecting their business"

the object of sky go is not for you to be sneaky and share your sky sub on a big screen via a phone, its for you to watch your sky sub on your phone "on the go"

hardly bad form.

First off, going to assume when you say 'you' you don't directly mean me personally & are talking in the more general use of the word?

Assuming you are correct and they are protecting their business they are not doing a very good job. As pointed out above, laptops can show sky go programs on a tv, so why pick out phones??? Also as a part 2 to this, why have other companies not prevented this sort of thing?


The sad fact of it all is that your right, yet soool wrong. You call it 'protecting' when lets call a spade a spade here, its ****in greed simple as. In my opinion....


I PAY for sky
I PAY for sky sports
I BOUGHT my android device
I PAY my mobile contract every month
I BOUGHT a HDMI connection for this purpose


Not giving out here as I know others pay and do the same but to misread the situation as you have and call it protecting is plain laughable

120_Minutes wrote: »

first off, you assume correctly.

secondly because the technology exists that they can do it on phones, and not on other devices (see my post above)

secondly part 2, other companies arent sky.

thirdly, you are right you have paid for/bought all those things. but you also agreed to skys terms and conditions......right?

saying "its bad form" that sky dont let you view sky go via a phones hdmi output is like saying its bad form that mobile networks simlock their phones.

it's not bad form, its business, and even though i may not agree with it, it is what it is.

dont like it? dont give sky your business.

*edit* Also, the most obvious point, which should really be staring us all in the face is: for sky go to work, you must have a sky account. to have a sky account, no doubt you have a sky box, which is hooked up to your tv. if thats the case, why do you need to output sky go to your tv anyway?

Sky is marketed for people who want to watch sky while temporarily away from their tv, eg on a laptop, tablet or phone...ie on the go.....hooking it up to your tv is not that, and its not gonna be a feature they'll give you.

its pointless arguing some of the above as we differ in our views, but i will pick out a few points...

Terms, firstly Im sure im not the only one with the hand up here, never have/never will read em. They are there to cover said company. Nothing more to say on this other than we are binded to adhere to whatever sky want us to do here, life i suppose....

Regarding sky and my business, I would like to expand on this but I won't. I'll say this though, if sky did monopolize football rights they would be told where to go, not just by me id be guessing....


Regards my home setup, its an obvious question with a very very simple answer. Kids. I (as a paying sky customer) would prefer to watch the football in HD on my small tv in the backroom whilst smallie watches tiny pop!!! Also, yes it would be handy up in the parents, not going to lie about that.


I never expected them to 'give' me that feature but when they take it away..... like i said, bad form.


I sincerely hope someone out there clever enough figures a way around this (not likely)... its just like the time when sky were trying to stop the pubs showing the football on the foreign channels and they couldn't.....


Side note: I think locked phones are a joke also and bad form considering they can be unlocked, at least the OWNER of the device is just that....

120_Minutes wrote: »

1. sky multiroom

2. they cant take away what was never there to begin with.

3. you are not the full owner. you buy a phone from a network store, it is subsidised, a little bit on prepay, and a lot more on bill pay. once you pay back the network either in credit or in line rental/revenue they unlock it for you then you can do what you like. want an unlocked phone on day 1? buy it full whack online or from a non affiliated shop.


...thems the breaks.

1. OR go the laptop to tv route, or ipad route....

2. How would you describe it? Blocking/removing/disabling... getting pretty playground now if we are going to disagree on the wording of it....

3. I think its just an Irish thing (yes I'm Irish) to just sit back and say 'ah sure' to any **** that is thrown at us, we have a good moan about things and get on with it. Thank christ not everyone adopts this (your) attitude towards these things. We'd have no jailbreaks, roms, torrents etc!!! We would simply get our company spec products out of the box and conform accordingly to whatever **** protocols they set out for us!!!!!

You say in point 3 that my phone is not mine since i'm on bill, correct, now should that prevent me from installing a custom rom? Since I am not the owner I should conform to whatever rules the provider set out? Ha ha!!!! Doubt it, what a boring world we would live in.....

120_Minutes wrote: »

It doesnt prevent you from rooting/flashing. in fact under an EU directive it doesnt even void your warranty.

my point was in regard to sim locking, which you also thought was bad form, and is put in place to ensure the networks get back some revenue from you. rooting/flashing at its core doesnt cost your provider any revenue, unless you're using that route to unlock your phone.

so fire away, i'm running a custom rom of vanilla 4.2.1 and i love it.

I'm done on this subject, you seem hard done by the fact that there are t&c's in place by sky to use their app and you dont like it simply cos it doesnt suit you. They have the right to do it, and you have the right to complain about it. but once again, its not "bad form" on their part.

So of someone gets sky go working on a rooted phone & finds a way to get the hdmi to tv working then you wont use it?

120_Minutes wrote: »

You're missing my point. Hack away all you want. I never said that sky say its wrong. Sky just don't allow you to do it, and you feel hard done by that. I, however, don't.

I have no need to output sky go from my phone so to answer your question: no I probably wouldn't use it. But that's because I've no need to not because I'm doing what sky tell me to do.

I'll repeat what I said before because you seem to be missing it: I didn't say I agreed with what sky do regarding the app, but they have every right to do it.


Also you said that you cancelled multi room as it was of no use to you, yet earlier you sad you wanted sky in two rooms..... That seems like a use to me....

I think you just want multi room for free...

You say I miss your point yet I've never said sky were outside their rights to do this? That is the point your making but I never argued that point? I think maybe its your missing what I'm saying...


Also I asked you if you would use sky go FULL STOP if they cracked it, not what I was planning to do...




And just to repeat and be clear (again) I do not want multi room!!!!! Even for free!!!!

Your getring away from the main point here, which is where we differ, the core matter of the issue is not weather sky CAN do this rather SHOULD they do this.


Ah look we can post and post on this all day long, at the end of it we just have different views on this & neither of us are going to change that viewpoint anytime soon, rendering this pointless!!! We have made our points