Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Gerry Adams, Leader of Opposition

Options
  • 18-02-2011 5:05pm
    #1
    Podge83
    Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭


    Following the opinion polls, if there is a FF/Lab coalition, which seems v likely, with the concentration of SF votes in areas, unlike FF's blanket support, surely this means that SF will be bigger than FF. In that case Gerry Adams will be leader of the opposition - that'll be interesting!

    Any Thoughts??


«134567

Comments

  • Options
    #2
    almighty1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭almighty1


    Good point. Even seeing Gerry Adams in the Dail will make interesting viewing in itself.

    Will he definitely get a seat?


  • Options
    #3
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Podge83 wrote: »
    Following the opinion polls, if there is a FF/Lab coalition, which seems v likely, with the concentration of SF votes in areas, unlike FF's blanket support, surely this means that SF will be bigger than FF. In that case Gerry Adams will be leader of the opposition - that'll be interesting!

    Any Thoughts??

    The concentration of votes could also work against SF, just giving them seats where they have higher profile candidates. Bad and all as FF will do, I'd be surprised they get less seats than SF.

    PS. I take it you mean FG/Labour Government.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



  • Options
    #4
    seamus
    Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The independents could actually make up the largest opposition "group".

    I would not be all too surprised if a new party emerged out of the elected independents - or FF manage to launch "New FF" by absorbing the most popular independents and ousting their rotten apples.


  • Options
    #5
    reprazant
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,417 ✭✭✭reprazant


    almighty1 wrote: »
    Good point. Even seeing Gerry Adams in the Dail will make interesting viewing in itself.

    Will he definitely get a seat?

    I know people who have been doing polls for different papers and they say that it is in no way definite.

    I was surprised by it as I presumed that he would walk it but no, it looks like it might be a tight one for him.


  • Options
    #6
    Permabear
    Closed Accounts Posts: 39,022 ✭✭✭✭Permabear


    This post has been deleted.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #7
    danbohan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭danbohan


    Permabear wrote: »
    This post had been deleted.

    did we have a credible alternative policy from the opposition when fianna fail were giving the blanket bank guarantees that has bankrupted this country ?


  • Options
    #8
    Podge83
    Registered Users Posts: 637 ✭✭✭Podge83


    Of Course, i Meant FG/ Labour!!!

    Some polls have it tight for him - but it's a big possibility. Who would deputize, Marty Lou, Pearse???


  • Options
    #9
    GSF
    Registered Users Posts: 1,662 ✭✭✭GSF


    Podge83 wrote: »
    Who would deputize, Marty Lou, Pearse???
    50% Marty Whelan; 50% Mary Lou :eek:


  • Options
    #10
    Phoenix Park
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Phoenix Park


    you're really gonna have to read back over these posts of yours Podge :D


  • Options
    #11
    EithneMasterson
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭EithneMasterson


    Would hate to see Gerry adams get in...................we have had theives liars cheats wimps...................do we really need Murderer to the list


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #12
    Lawrence1895
    Registered Users Posts: 7,627 ✭✭✭Lawrence1895


    EithneMasterson wrote: »
    Would hate to see Gerry adams get in...................we have had theives liars cheats wimps...................do we really need Murderer to the list

    Is there any evidence, that Gerry Adams killed someone?

    Is there any evidence, that Enda Kenny, Richard Bruton, etc. are not telling lies or would cheat, once they are in government?


  • Options
    #13
    Reilly616
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    EithneMasterson wrote: »
    Would hate to see Gerry adams get in...................we have had theives liars cheats wimps...................do we really need Murderer to the list

    Odd, I would have expected to have heard of Gerry Adams' conviction for murder. Could you point me in the direction of the case and let me know how many years of his life sentence he's served to date? Thanks.


  • Options
    #14
    Liam Byrne
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,163 ✭✭✭✭Liam Byrne


    seamus wrote: »
    The independents could actually make up the largest opposition "group".

    I would not be all too surprised if a new party emerged out of the elected independents - or FF manage to launch "New FF" by absorbing the most popular independents and ousting their rotten apples.

    I can't see FF launching anything new or worthwhile, especially since one of Martin's first acts was to reinstate O'Dea.

    The rotten apples will be kept on and promoted, as usual.

    On the main topic, there is no guarantee that Adams will even be elected.


  • Options
    #15
    EithneMasterson
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭EithneMasterson


    Reilly616 wrote: »
    Odd, I would have expected to have heard of Gerry Adams' conviction for murder. Could you point me in the direction of the case and let me know how many years of his life sentence he's served to date? Thanks.


    Gerry Adams.....................will let you suss that out yourself,


  • Options
    #16
    Ruire
    Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Ruire


    Podge83 wrote: »
    Following the opinion polls, if there is a FF/Lab coalition, which seems v likely, with the concentration of SF votes in areas, unlike FF's blanket support, surely this means that SF will be bigger than FF. In that case Gerry Adams will be leader of the opposition - that'll be interesting!

    Any Thoughts??
    It'll never happen. Thanks to SF's concentration of support, SF candidates will have to compete with each other for less seats in less constituencies while FF's wide spread of candidates will return the third-largest party in the Dáil.


  • Options
    #17
    EithneMasterson
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭EithneMasterson


    Lars1916 wrote: »
    Is there any evidence, that Gerry Adams killed someone?

    Is there any evidence, that Enda Kenny, Richard Bruton, etc. are not telling lies or would cheat, once they are in government?
    None at all I believe enda and the rest of them should be serving time along with adams


  • Options
    #18
    BORDS.IE
    Registered Users Posts: 4 ✭BORDS.IE


    Podge83 wrote: »
    Following the opinion polls, if there is a FF/Lab coalition, which seems v likely, with the concentration of SF votes in areas, unlike FF's blanket support, surely this means that SF will be bigger than FF. In that case Gerry Adams will be leader of the opposition - that'll be interesting!

    Any Thoughts??
    Q


  • Options
    #19
    Reilly616
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    EithneMasterson wrote: »
    Gerry Adams.....................will let you suss that out yourself,

    In other words, you have no reply, because you're wrong...


  • Options
    #20
    EithneMasterson
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭EithneMasterson


    Well I would do my own leg work to see who would be running my country....................or do you believe in what you are told.......................like your Government for the last few years or maybe the bankers..........not me I would keep myself informed.

    Not so simple as you deciding because you do not like an answer that the it is wrong............go on educate yourself.
    Also let me add do not rely totally on links to find the truth


  • Options
    #21
    declan37
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4 ✭declan37


    came across this today online,
    really interesting esp at a time where about to gamble the fate of our country.


    http://info-wars.org/2011/01/06/irish-leaders-castigated-as-greatest-traitors-of-all-time/


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #22
    Anita M.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Anita M.


    Strange that you hear no talk of the missing children of Ireland anymore nor of the abused children in the homes like Artane and Goldenbridge.


  • Options
    #23
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    I don't think many people in the Republic have taken the time to really consider what it must be like to grow up in a part of your own country which is under the macro-control of a foreign power and the micro-control of bigoted unionists who sought to take every basic human right from the indigenous Irish population.

    How many of you can really say that if one of your teenaged relatives, a child of yours or a nephew, or a niece had been brutally slain and subsequently labelled a terrorist (Bloody Sunday, Ballymurphy) that you would not have responded with violence?

    Gerry Adams may have controlled the IRA, may have ordered killings but he could have done much worse, he could have done nothing.

    Bloody Sunday in Derry,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)
    Ballymurphy in Belfast, http://www.ballymurphymassacre.com/

    I came across this article earlier, Please take the time to read it as comes from an English source but eloquently describes life in the North.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2001/nov/17/weekend7.weekend9


  • Options
    #24
    SafeSurfer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,421 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    forfuxsake wrote: »
    I don't think many people in the Republic have taken the time to really consider what it must be like to grow up in a part of your own country which is under the macro-control of a foreign power and the micro-control of bigoted unionists who sought to take every basic human right from the indigenous Irish population.

    How many of you can really say that if one of your teenaged relatives, a child of yours or a nephew, or a niece had been brutally slain and subsequently labelled a terrorist (Bloody Sunday, Ballymurphy) that you would not have responded with violence?

    Gerry Adams may have controlled the IRA, may have ordered killings but he could have done much worse, he could have done nothing.

    Bloody Sunday in Derry,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloody_Sunday_(1972)
    Ballymurphy in Belfast, http://www.ballymurphymassacre.com/

    I came across this article earlier, Please take the time to read it as comes from an English source but eloquently describes life in the North.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/theguardian/2001/nov/17/weekend7.weekend9

    John Hume didn't lead the IRA. Did he do nothing?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Options
    #25
    UpTheSlashers
    Registered Users Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭UpTheSlashers


    EithneMasterson wrote: »
    Would hate to see Gerry adams get in...................we have had theives liars cheats wimps...................do we really need Murderer to the list

    Source please, when you're ready.


  • Options
    #26
    Reilly616
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 374 ✭✭Reilly616


    EithneMasterson wrote: »
    Well I would do my own leg work to see who would be running my country....................or do you believe in what you are told.......................like your Government for the last few years or maybe the bankers..........not me I would keep myself informed.

    Not so simple as you deciding because you do not like an answer that the it is wrong............go on educate yourself.
    Also let me add do not rely totally on links to find the truth

    :rolleyes:

    A "murderer" is someone who has been proven guilty, by a court of law, of the crime of murder. You are proposing that Adams is a murderer. I am pointing out that you are wrong and cannot back up your claim by evidence.

    Also, an elipsis is a series of three full stops. Go on, educate yourself!


  • Options
    #27
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,089 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    There's talk of Adams stepping aside in the next Dail to allow Pearse Doherty to take over the leadership of the party.

    Whether that will happen or not is another thing - Adams has proven himself to be just like every politician in Ireland in one respect - ego maniac that loves the media limelight.


  • Options
    #28
    blahfckingblah
    Registered Users Posts: 1,666 ✭✭✭blahfckingblah


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    There's talk of Adams stepping aside in the next Dail to allow Pearse Doherty to take over the leadership of the party.

    Whether that will happen or not is another thing - Adams has proven himself to be just like every politician in Ireland in one respect - ego maniac that loves the media limelight.

    just wondering, where did you hear this??


  • Options
    #29
    Anita M.
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 260 ✭✭Anita M.


    EithneMasterson wrote: »
    Would hate to see Gerry adams get in...................we have had theives liars cheats wimps...................do we really need Murderer to the list

    We had murderers before. Forget ye not the distant past where wee little children were brutally worked to the bone and starved under the eye of the clergy...oh not so distant


  • Options
    #30
    forfuxsake
    Registered Users Posts: 829 ✭✭✭forfuxsake


    John Hume didn't lead the IRA. Did he do nothing?

    No, on the contrary, he has done an amazing job and was fully deserving of his nobel prize. I think in the dirty world of Irish politics he alone can truly hold his head high and serve as an example to us all. I also doubt that his influence, his example, and his determination did not influence Gerry Adams in his moving SF away from armed struggle.

    I


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #31
    Tucker.Tim
    Registered Users Posts: 293 ✭✭Tucker.Tim


    UpTheSlashers wrote: »
    Source please, when you're ready.

    I love this attitude his defenders throw at you if you say what everyone and their dog knows. If Adams didn't do a sterling job covering his tracks do you think he would even be running for election? He'd be in a prison in the north or completely and utterly discredited. Asking for 'evidence' is a straw man at best.

    This is the court of public opinion, not the law and the rules are different. People don't need to compile a Holmes-esque collection of forensic evidence to lay claim to Adams having done some very nefarious thing. Suck it up.


Advertisement