Manny Pacquiao vs Chris Algieri - Nov 22nd - Venetian Macao

Andrew Flexing · 22-09-2014 10:07pm #1

Hi all,

How do you see this one going? Anyone else feel an upset on the cards with Pacman losing?

unknown13 · 23-09-2014 12:08am

Pacquiao by dominant decision, Algieri wont win more than one or two rounds on each card.

Chrissybhoy · 23-09-2014 12:59pm

pac_man wrote: »

I saw Algeri a couple of fights ago and really all I saw was an athlete. Stylistically it will be awkward for Manny( given away lots of height and reach) but for me I can't see any upset and I have a feeling this match is set up so that Manny will break his five year KO hiatus. All of course designed to intensify a public outcry directed towards Mayweather.

Agree with u pacman Algeri is a athlete. Could make it awkward with his height. But I'd expect Manny to win comfortably.

Andrew Flexing · 23-09-2014 2:56pm

Is it really 5 years since pacman KO'd someone?
And who was his last?

megadodge · 23-09-2014 5:40pm

Andrew Flexing wrote: »

Is it really 5 years since pacman KO'd someone?
And who was his last?

Yup, five years in November since he beat Cotto.

In fairness, his opponents since then were all pretty big men (besides Marquez, who's quality) and none of them are the type that get stopped easily (if at all).

Henno30 · 29-09-2014 1:29am

Algieri is certainly a stylistic challenge for Manny. Tall, sharp, and throws in volume. There's no real reason to believe he's near Manny's level yet though, not after fighting just two recognised opponents.

It could be an interesting fight, depends on what version of Pacquiao shows up.

Henno30 · 21-11-2014 1:53am

Anyone see an argument for Algieri?

Seems like he's being written off for the most part. Stylistically I can see how he could pose some issues for Pac, but it's a huge step-up in class for him.

Chrissybhoy · 21-11-2014 8:14am

Too much too soon IMO but will give Manny some hairy moments. Manny on points for me

Henno30 · 21-11-2014 3:24pm

pac_man wrote: »

What time is this on at tomorrow Irish time?

Boxnation coverage starts at 2am so I'm guessing 4am at the earliest?

menoscemo · 21-11-2014 3:44pm

Henno30 wrote: »

Boxnation coverage starts at 2am so I'm guessing 4am at the earliest?

I am guess this is on tonight as Friday night/Saturday morning rather than Saturday night/Sunday morning?

Henno30 · 21-11-2014 4:53pm

Manny looks in superb condition in the lead-up to this one. As fast and as sharp as I've seen him look in years.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkPKBSxuDgs

xtal191 · 21-11-2014 5:02pm

menoscemo wrote: »

I am guess this is on tonight as Friday night/Saturday morning rather than Saturday night/Sunday morning?

It's on Saturday night/Sunday morning

12thofthe12th · 21-11-2014 11:15pm

It's a big pay day for Algieri, that's all it is. Pac to win by KO.

weemcd · 22-11-2014 9:12am

Manny is looking superb. Lean and quick.

I'm expecting him to win a wide UD, flurries in and out again all night. I don't think he'll get the KO though.

clubwelly · 22-11-2014 12:51pm

It took Algieri three goes to hit the weight hope this isn't going to be a rabbit in the headlights come round 1

Henno30 · 22-11-2014 3:50pm

pac_man wrote: »

Mustn't have learned much from that Masters in Nutrition that he has.

It's pretty funny. Especially when he was tweeting stuff like this yesterday.

microsim · 23-11-2014 4:38am

Hope this fight is next.

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 4:39am

Lomachemko looks decent again! Great to watch star in the future

Big Ears · 23-11-2014 4:43am

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

Lomachemko looks decent again! Great to watch star in the future

Ya, plenty of flaws o still iron out but he really is something to behold in full flow. That 4th round is a must watch for any boxing fan, beautiful stuff from Loma.

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 4:48am

Big Ears wrote: »

Ya, plenty of flaws o still iron out but he really is something to behold in full flow. That 4th round is a must watch for any boxing fan, beautiful stuff from Loma.

That last round (11) was a joy to watch the fellas skill is ridiculous

Kirby · 23-11-2014 5:01am

Kwanpichit Onesongchaigym up next on the undercard.

Yes, that's hit name. :P

megadodge · 23-11-2014 5:02am

Big Ears wrote: »

Ya, plenty of flaws o still iron out but he really is something to behold in full flow. That 4th round is a must watch for any boxing fan, beautiful stuff from Loma.

Not being picky here, but what flaws do you see?

Kirby · 23-11-2014 5:04am

megadodge wrote: »

Not being picky here, but what flaws do you see?

He cuts easy.

Cant really change that though.

microsim · 23-11-2014 5:05am

Looks like manny's younger brother fighting now

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 5:06am

megadodge wrote: »

Not being picky here, but what flaws do you see?

He does get caught with a punch u can hit him. But I think he beats Rigondeux all day long. His skill set is lovely to watch

Big Ears · 23-11-2014 5:07am

megadodge wrote: »

Not being picky here, but what flaws do you see?

Don't get me wrong, he's very much elite already and I am nit picking, but I feel he has a tendency to switch off at times, occasionally take breaks where he's not throwing but stays in range.

He was also coasting early on in that fight and Barrie Jones called it spot on. He could of got rid of the Thai if he'd stepped it up, but didn't decide to, and instead he injured his hand and had to go the full 12 fighting with pretty much one hand. Now that probably turned out to be good experience, but if that's a guy like Walters in there and the finish is there he better take it, because it's too dangerous to leave guys like that around.

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:01am

Kirby wrote: »

He cuts easy.

Really? Like when?

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:03am

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

He does get caught with a punch u can hit him. But I think he beats Rigondeux all day long. His skill set is lovely to watch

Firstly, even the very best defensive boxers in the world get hit.
Secondly, he is among the very best defensive boxers in the world.
Absolutely beautiful defensive skills.

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:04am

Big Ears wrote: »

Don't get me wrong, he's very much elite already and I am nit picking, but I feel he has a tendency to switch off at times, occasionally take breaks where he's not throwing but stays in range.

He was also coasting early on in that fight and Barrie Jones called it spot on. He could of got rid of the Thai if he'd stepped it up, but didn't decide to, and instead he injured his hand and had to go the full 12 fighting with pretty much one hand. Now that probably turned out to be good experience, but if that's a guy like Walters in there and the finish is there he better take it, because it's too dangerous to leave guys like that around.

Not exactly "plenty of flaws" though?

microsim · 23-11-2014 6:12am

Those two presenters on box nation are the most annoying ***** ever.

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 6:14am

megadodge wrote: »

Firstly, even the very best defensive boxers in the world get hit.
Secondly, he is among the very best defensive boxers in the world.
Absolutely beautiful defensive skills.

Never disputed that

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:20am

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

Never disputed that

I was asking about his "flaws" and the language you used in your answer suggested that he wasn't hard to hit, which I strongly disagree with.

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:25am

Bad call by the ref there. That was no knockdown.

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:30am

Good footwork from Algieri so far, even with his fast feet Manny is finding it hard to close the distance.

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 6:38am

megadodge wrote: »

I was asking about his "flaws" and the language you used in your answer suggested that he wasn't hard to hit, which I strongly disagree with.

Well the fight tonight showed that he can get hit but doesn't have an effect on him. We'll be raving about him in a year or two

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 6:40am

megadodge wrote: »

Good footwork from Algieri so far, even with his fast feet Manny is finding it hard to close the distance.

Were at loggerheads tonight lad. I think manny is getting into the pockets very easy just needs his shots to ge cleaner

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:42am

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

Well the fight tonight showed that he can get hit but doesn't have an effect on him. We'll be raving about him in a year or two

Yeah, but that's hardly a 'flaw', as every fighter gets hit.
Mayweather was hit something like 220 times against Maidana in their first fight, yet you'd never hear anyone saying "he can be hit".

I agree though that he's on his way to being a big star.

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:43am

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

Were at loggerheads tonight lad. I think manny is getting into the pockets very easy just needs his shots to ge cleaner

He is now. I wrote that in the second I think and things have changed in the meantime.

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 6:45am

megadodge wrote: »

Yeah, but that's hardly a 'flaw', as every fighter gets hit.
Mayweather was hit something like 220 times against Maidana in their first fight, yet you'd never hear anyone saying "he can be hit".

I agree though that he's on his way to being a big star.

It will be flaw if a better fighter hits him clean to many times

microsim · 23-11-2014 6:54am

It's over.

microsim · 23-11-2014 6:56am

How did Algieri survive that

moneymad · 23-11-2014 6:56am

pacquiao needs a ko or this is a setback for him.

megadodge · 23-11-2014 6:58am

Chrissybhoy wrote: »

I will be flaw if a better fighter hits him clean to many times

But he's not getting hit very often.
And that was my whole point. You seem to be suggesting he is.
It's pretty obvious that he'll be hard to hit for anybody. His defense is brilliant. But even defensive wizards get hit.
Roy Jones is the only boxer in the history of Compubox to go through a round without having a punch scored against him. ONE ROUND EVER.

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 6:59am

Middle class loses again. Working class sport!!!

Kirby · 23-11-2014 7:03am

Algieri corner is completely delusional.

Chrissybhoy · 23-11-2014 7:04am

Kirby wrote: »

Algieri corner is completely delusional.

100% agree

megadodge · 23-11-2014 7:08am

Katie's on TG4 right now.

microsim · 23-11-2014 7:09am

That was never in doubt.

Henno30 · 23-11-2014 7:27am

Kirby wrote: »

Algieri corner is completely delusional.

Hilarious though

12thofthe12th · 23-11-2014 12:28pm

weemcd wrote: »

Manny is looking superb. Lean and quick.

I'm expecting him to win a wide UD, flurries in and out again all night. I don't think he'll get the KO though.

I hope you've put money on that, good prediction man.

walshb · 23-11-2014 3:26pm

Very unimpressed with Algieri. In there to survive. Never offered anything of substance.

Manny Pacquiao vs Chris Algieri - Nov 22nd - Venetian Macao

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