Unpopular Rock and Metal Opinions?

Hotale.com · 08-05-2014 6:25pm #1

I'll go first:

1. Enter Sandman is an incredibly overrated song.

2. Like Clockwork is the most boring QOTSA album (Still good!).

3. The amount of stick Fall Out Boy got back in the day was unwarranted (except that Pete Wentz pr*ck :P).

4. Slipknot are worse than Ke$ha.

5. The Beatles weren't all that.

6. Oasis were never good.

7. Kurt Cobain wasn't murdered :P.

8. Muse haven't been good since Absolution.

9. Hotel California has a better solo than Sweet Child O' Mine.

10. Avenged Sevenfold are ruined by their singer.

seachto7 · 08-05-2014 6:43pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

I'll go first:

1. Enter Sandman is an incredibly overrated song.

2. Like Clockwork is the most boring QOTSA album (Still good!).

8. Muse haven't been good since Absolution.

9. Hotel California has a better solo than Sweet Child O' Mine.

Agreed. The Black Album, I think, is overrated.

Mushy · 08-05-2014 6:52pm

No. 2...tut tut!

Liam McPoyle · 08-05-2014 6:59pm

Alter Bridge are fcukin awful.

Just awful.

fiachr_a · 08-05-2014 7:04pm

The Smoke on the water guitar riff is based on a 1960's jazz tune.

Links234 · 08-05-2014 7:12pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

1. Enter Sandman is an incredibly overrated song.

Thought you said UNpopular opinions? :pac:

Lithium93_ · 08-05-2014 7:51pm

Coleman Slawski wrote: »

Alter Bridge are fcukin awful.

Just awful.

I'm genuinely curious to know how'd you come to the conclusion that Alter Bridge are awful?.

stefan idiot jones · 08-05-2014 8:24pm

Axl is a sound guy and well worth the wait for another top quality album to come out. His voice is improving with age and I feel he is maturing with age and gaining some self confidence after being bullied by former band members.

Metallica playing to Pingu and his flightless friends was inspiring.

Black metal where the vocalist puts on a 'comedy' demonic growl is the best genre as it's so sincere.

Grown men dressed up in 'comedy' face paint and costumes is awesome. It adds that much needed flavour to the already strong music.

Hotale.com · 08-05-2014 8:29pm

Mushy wrote: »

No. 2...tut tut!

It was no SFTD, but I think I'll revise my decision and change Like Clockwork to Lullabies, about half of which was awful.

the blunder years · 08-05-2014 8:38pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

5. The Beatles weren't all that.

Whether you like them or not, their influences is so undeniable. From their Studio techniques to the pure song writing. Stuff like Tomorrow Never Knows is absolutely brilliant and way ahead of its time. I might add huge Beatles fan

Also The Eagles are pure muck, check out the Flying Burrito Brothers.

Mushy · 08-05-2014 9:36pm

Hotale.com wrote: »

It was no SFTD, but I think I'll revise my decision and change Like Clockwork to Lullabies, about half of which was awful.

Thats just as bad IMO haha.

My unpopular opinion is that slipknot are dull live.

nyarlothothep · 08-05-2014 11:04pm

Aside from Blood and Thunder Mastodon write turgid rock numbers with stock riffs.

Aside from a few songs, Tool write turgid, bland songs with boring pentatonic guitar solos.

Meshuggah are good but write only one type of song and the shouty vocals are annoying.

Rush are incredibly boring

Dream Theatre are cheese theatre, some of their music sounds like Disney music.

Say Your Number · 09-05-2014 1:29am

Dave Mustaine isn't a bad lad.

Probably not that unpopular but Dio era Sabbath is better than Ozzy era Sabbath.

Most Death Metal (That I've heard anyway) is just noise.

Mr. CooL ICE · 09-05-2014 10:14am

The vast majority of thrash/death metal bands from the last 20 years might be some of the most technically gifted musicians of all time, but they have no idea how to write good tunes.

StaticAge11 · 09-05-2014 11:06am

I agree with the poster above that the Beatles aren't worth the hype. Yes they were influencial. Yes the music world would not be what it is today without them. But I do not get people still obsessing over them nowadays. Their music to me is boring and extremely dated. Amazing for their time but theres a lot better artists out there nowadays.

smackbunnybaby · 09-05-2014 12:27pm

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Aside from Blood and Thunder Mastodon write turgid rock numbers with stock riffs.

Aside from a few songs, Tool write turgid, bland songs with boring pentatonic guitar solos.

Meshuggah are good but write only one type of song and the shouty vocals are annoying.

Rush are incredibly boring

Dream Theatre are cheese theatre, some of their music sounds like Disney music.

I don't think we can ever be friends

slavetothegrind · 09-05-2014 12:28pm

hetfield should shut the fcuk up and just play, when he talks now it's cringeworthy and embarrasing.

Angron · 09-05-2014 12:39pm

I find Mastodon and Gojira to be incredibly overrated, and in particular I find Mastodon boring.

Grindcore is much, much better than prog metal.

Tony EH · 09-05-2014 12:40pm

Queen are shit. Utter, utter shit. They don't have a single song worth the time.

Metallica should have been all shot after '...And Justice for all'.

jacksie66 · 09-05-2014 12:44pm

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the blunder years · 09-05-2014 1:02pm

StaticAge11 wrote: »

I agree with the poster above that the Beatles aren't worth the hype. Yes they were influencial. Yes the music world would not be what it is today without them. But I do not get people still obsessing over them nowadays. Their music to me is boring and extremely dated. Amazing for their time but theres a lot better artists out there nowadays.

Why can't people obsess over music that is years old, regardless if you get it or not. I listen to some of those early rock n roll records from sun records and chess records, and the sound and energy is great. Everything dates in some fashion or another, be it in recording production value or lyric content. To say they were good for there time, is like saying ah sure Hendrix and Zeppelin were neat for their time.
Also whats with all the Metallica hate, from being disappointed to actually wanting to kill em all, the reactions are so extreme. Don't buy the records or go the show, Metallica fans who hate Metallica seems to be quite popular.

Liam McPoyle · 09-05-2014 1:48pm

Lithium93_ wrote: »

I'm genuinely curious to know how'd you come to the conclusion that Alter Bridge are awful?.

Because I think they are?

I could ask why you are such a big fan if theirs.

It's personal preference.

Links234 · 09-05-2014 4:05pm

This thread's gonna end well :pac:

Dark Artist · 09-05-2014 9:08pm

I think there's a difference between people who appreciate music for what it is, and people who appreciate music for what it sounds like.

The people who appreciate music for what it is can appreciate a Disney-like Dream Theater melody because it requires more of a musical ear.

The people who appreciate music for how the sound makes them feel are less likely to appreciate melodies and changing tempos because they're looking instead for an atmosphere, specific textures, and probably lyrics that speak to them.

Protest the Hero is a good example - I can very much appreciate what they do, but to a huge chunk of metal fans they are just emo garbage, because that's what their music SOUNDS like - but it's not the real reason why they're a good band.

So my unpopular metal opinion is - if you don't at least appreciate more melodic/experimental/prog bands you are lacking a certain ear. You call them cheesy or boring because you're unable to see past their overall sound, in order to see what makes their actual compositions great.

Lawrence1895 · 09-05-2014 9:59pm

Slayer are a racist band, because of 'Angel of Death' and a 'Reinhard Heydrich' sticker on Jeff's guitar...

...this one lasted in Germany for decades, and I am not sure, if there is still people around who believe in that crap :mad:

Lithium93_ · 09-05-2014 10:05pm

Chinese Democracy - Despite the history, & money poured into it & the revolving door of members post original line up, isn't a bad album, once you've put bias aside.

Moffett · 09-05-2014 11:37pm

Thrash metal has had a far greater influence on the modern hardcore sound than hardcore punk ever did on thrash metal.

SilverScreen · 10-05-2014 12:04am

Rammstein are a boring and highly unoriginal band who stole most of their ideas from bands like Laibach and KMFDM.

Links234 · 10-05-2014 12:15am

SilverScreen wrote: »

Rammstein are a boring and highly unoriginal band who stole most of their ideas from bands like Laibach and KMFDM.

:eek: Rammstein mightn't be the most original band out there, I'd add Oomph! in there with where they got their sound, but they're ANYTHING but boring!

stefan idiot jones · 10-05-2014 12:44am

All German thrash metal is horrendous. No feeling, no inventiveness, just a blueprint that they stick to time and time again.

Moffett · 10-05-2014 1:04am

That will be especially unpopular with the hipster Neo-Punks who claim that early Sodom was an influence on the crust movemnt. Here's one, Amebix were full on heavy metal by the time they recorded their first LP. Ausgebombt!

Mushy · 10-05-2014 1:27am

Angron wrote: »

I find Mastodon and Gojira to be incredibly overrated, and in particular I find Mastodon boring.

Grindcore is much, much better than prog metal.

I think this one wins!

SilverScreen · 10-05-2014 1:22pm

stefan idiot jones wrote: »

All German thrash metal is horrendous. No feeling, no inventiveness, just a blueprint that they stick to time and time again.

I'm not too familiar with other German thrash metal bands but I think the early Kreator albums are awesome.

RayCon · 10-05-2014 3:17pm

I don't rate Motorhead - never have.

Links234 · 10-05-2014 3:50pm

Cradle of Filth were actually a pretty decent band, but some people just can't look past the aesthetics.

Angron · 10-05-2014 3:51pm

Links234 wrote: »

Cradle of Filth were actually a pretty decent band, but some people just can't look past the aesthetics.

I genuinely like Cradle of Filth.

Links234 · 10-05-2014 3:57pm

Angron wrote: »

I genuinely like Cradle of Filth.

Midian is possibly one of my favourite albums ever

stefan idiot jones · 10-05-2014 4:35pm

Pantera, Damageplan and Down.

So, so disappointing.

Tony EH · 10-05-2014 5:35pm

Angron wrote: »

I genuinely like Cradle of Filth.

Did they get you through some difficult times?

Lawrence1895 · 10-05-2014 5:51pm

SilverScreen wrote: »

I'm not too familiar with other German thrash metal bands but I think the early Kreator albums are awesome.

I would prefer Tankard's early stuff, but Kreator or Sodom were high quality stuff as well :cool:

Tony EH · 10-05-2014 6:38pm

I remember loving 'The Morning After' when I was a kid. It was my "fun" record.

Liam McPoyle · 10-05-2014 7:14pm

Links234 wrote: »

Cradle of Filth were actually a pretty decent band, but some people just can't look past the aesthetics.

They were fantastic up til Midian in fairness, Dusk is a great album. They lost their way after that I think (Midian I mean)

RichFTW · 10-05-2014 11:51pm

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Aside from Blood and Thunder Mastodon write turgid rock numbers with stock riffs.

Aside from a few songs, Tool write turgid, bland songs with boring pentatonic guitar solos.

Meshuggah are good but write only one type of song and the shouty vocals are annoying.

Rush are incredibly boring

Dream Theatre are cheese theatre, some of their music sounds like Disney music.

I would consider this blasphemy rather than an unpopular opinion!

For me, Nirvana's come as you are is the most over rated song ever. It's an awful awful song.

Placebo would have been a lot more successful had it not been for the gay/bisexual connections.

We will never have a rockstar with the aura of Morrison, Hendrix, Cobain ever again due to blanket media coverage, information availability and modern technology. Nobody has that mystique anymore.

Steve Jobs has done more harm to the music industry than Simon Cowell. Too much music is available with MP3's. People don't zone in on a band anymore and just skip to the next album/artist if they are bored rather than give an album more time or another listen.

SilverScreen · 11-05-2014 11:25am

Come as You Are isn't awful or anything. The only thing is that the main riff is basically a slowed-down version of the riff from Eighties by Killing Joke, which is an awesome song by the way.

Regarding mp3s, I don't see how too much music being available is a bad thing. People have so much more choice now and access to artists whom they might not have access to otherwise. Even more so now with streaming services like Spotify. I usually try to give an album at least two listens before I form an opinion on it. Granted some albums take many listens to get into but I don't like to waste too much time on an album which I think is only good at best. If I hear some redeeming qualities in it I might listen further. There's a lot of great music out there to listen to and I want to zone in on the albums that sound amazing to me, not just good. It just takes a bit of effort to find them even if it means skipping from one album to another.

nyarlothothep · 11-05-2014 2:56pm

RichFTW wrote: »

I would consider this blasphemy rather than an unpopular opinion!

For me, Nirvana's come as you are is the most over rated song ever. It's an awful awful song.

Placebo would have been a lot more successful had it not been for the gay/bisexual connections.

We will never have a rockstar with the aura of Morrison, Hendrix, Cobain ever again due to blanket media coverage, information availability and modern technology. Nobody has that mystique anymore.

Steve Jobs has done more harm to the music industry than Simon Cowell. Too much music is available with MP3's. People don't zone in on a band anymore and just skip to the next album/artist if they are bored rather than give an album more time or another listen.

Agree with the state of the music industry today. I think it's ridiculous as well that people expect music for free. Yes, I and anyone else would be like cool, free music! when you get a cd from a friend to rip but it seems that popular opinion holds art to have no value. I would still pay for an album that I like. Btw, thanks, that's a higher compliment, I'm a blasphemer!

RichFTW · 11-05-2014 9:53pm

SilverScreen wrote: »

Come as You Are isn't awful or anything. The only thing is that the main riff is basically a slowed-down version of the riff from Eighties by Killing Joke, which is an awesome song by the way.

Regarding mp3s, I don't see how too much music being available is a bad thing. People have so much more choice now and access to artists whom they might not have access to otherwise. Even more so now with streaming services like Spotify. I usually try to give an album at least two listens before I form an opinion on it. Granted some albums take many listens to get into but I don't like to waste too much time on an album which I think is only good at best. If I hear some redeeming qualities in it I might listen further. There's a lot of great music out there to listen to and I want to zone in on the albums that sound amazing to me, not just good. It just takes a bit of effort to find them even if it means skipping from one album to another.

Just listened to that Killing Joke song, it's pretty good alright. Plus the guitarist looks like Conan O'Brien! Makes me dislike come as you are even more though!

Don't get me wrong, I love my ipod and the convenience of having everything in one place but I know there has been times when I moved on from a new album without giving it the time that I would have before the ipod, mainly as I had so many other options at my fingertips.

There is loads of great music out there but it is quite easy for a gem to get lost in it. You might sacrifice some extra plays of a new album that could push it from an okay to a cult in your eyes and keep searching for a 'better' album. MP3's have facilitated this through increasing the ease of access to music. It's the modern era problem of information overload I think.

beauf · 12-05-2014 12:28am

Zakk Wilde sounds better when he plays slower. Sorry.

the blunder years · 12-05-2014 12:45am

RichFTW wrote: »

We will never have a rockstar with the aura of Morrison, Hendrix, Cobain ever again due to blanket media coverage, information availability and modern technology. Nobody has that mystique anymore.

Steve Jobs has done more harm to the music industry than Simon Cowell. Too much music is available with MP3's. People don't zone in on a band anymore and just skip to the next album/artist if they are bored rather than give an album more time or another listen.

You make some great points, as far current listening habits it's why people dismiss albums as boring or whatever. They won't give it time, and that's what art needs. Just to expand on this I don't think cds ruined album culture soundwise like people who obsess over vinyl like to believe. But time instead of a solid 35-38 minutes artists had twice the time and a lot of filler got stuck on. I mean some of my favourite albums are sprawling but it ramped up the average album time and again a lot of filler was placed on an album.

As far as the rockstar mystique, I agree with that to an certain point Zeppelin and Sabbath rarely talked to the media, then again the media hated those bands and vice versa. But it's not the 70's anymore, and things change naturally. I believe with the whole rockstar thing is a very rose tinted romantic image a lot of people like to carry with them as well.

Also The Doors are terrible.

Reiketsu · 12-05-2014 12:48am

Tool bore me to tears.

Lithium93_ · 12-05-2014 12:52am

Dio era Sabbath > Ozzy era Sabbath

Say Your Number · 12-05-2014 1:02am

*Ahem*

Say Your Number wrote: »

Probably not that unpopular but Dio era Sabbath is better than Ozzy era Sabbath.

Lithium93_ wrote: »

Dio era Sabbath > Ozzy era Sabbath

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