Prime Time Investigates on Southill now

Spudmonkey · 07-12-2010 11:29am

These people have no fear of anything. They have no fear of authority or of prison and they get everything for free; welfare, housing, medical cards. It really is a sorry state of affairs.

There is no dealing with these people. There is no point being nice to them, hoping that they will turn their lives around. There needs to be some serious work done in these places. Guards need to become feared by these people, they should be terrified by going to prison and they need to have their handouts slashed. Its time these places were reclaimed and decent citizens were given their lives back.

dave 27 · 07-12-2010 12:27pm

Note at the end he mentioned

Southill
Moyross
Delmage
Weston

Forgive me if im wrong but isnt delmage park in Moyross? seems like they try to break everything up to make it seem like theres more areas

skipz · 07-12-2010 12:42pm

I think a harder touch is needed with the gangs of Limerick, big time.
Seriously, they are just sh!ting on their own doorsteps and walking all over it.
No respect for anything! Theres not many places/estates in Ireland where they burn houses and pull down walls for a bit of craic. There's drugs, joyriding and general anti-social behaviour everywhere in Ireland but some of these lads are seriously low life.
Send in the army with night time curfews and when caught flog the sh!t out of them.

On the topic of the kids with the swan-off, seriously if primetime had any cop-on they would pass on the details to the cops.

krudler · 07-12-2010 12:57pm

Watched some of it, made my blood boil, espcially those little cockwarts with the multiple keys for robbing cars, and the fella boasting he broke into hundreds of houses, yet if one of us caught him in our place and gave him the beating he deserved WE'D be the ones up in court. fcuk em I say, you have no respect for your surroundings why should anyone give you anything to make it better? the people who try to get by and have live near these scum are the real victims.

seachto7 · 07-12-2010 1:07pm

Thing is , you could give them a good hiding if you caught them in your house, and rightly so. But thing is, they would probably come back with their mates and give you an even harder hiding, or worse, do what they did to that poor Collins fella.
A friend who knows a garda was told before, if you ever give a thief a hiding on your property, drag him out to the gate, ring the gardai, and tell them you found an unconscious guy outside your gate.;)

niallers1 · 07-12-2010 1:13pm

That programme was very sad and it really shows our failure as a society that this is accepted behaviour.

Shame on all of us.

Itsdacraic · 07-12-2010 1:59pm

seachto7 wrote: »

Thing is , you could give them a good hiding if you caught them in your house, and rightly so. But thing is, they would probably come back with their mates and give you an even harder hiding, or worse, do what they did to that poor Collins fella.
A friend who knows a garda was told before, if you ever give a thief a hiding on your property, drag him out to the gate, ring the gardai, and tell them you found an unconscious guy outside your gate.;)

No need for all that bother now as I think it has changed since the introduction of that bill earlier this year (at least I think it came in) where you are entitled to defend yourself against a trespasser on your property.

So flake away!

um7y1h83ge06nx · 07-12-2010 2:11pm

Itsdacraic wrote: »

No need for all that bother now as I think it has changed since the introduction of that bill earlier this year (at least I think it came in) where you are entitled to defend yourself against a trespasser on your property.

So flake away!

Time to call in the country lads maybe.

gaf1983 · 07-12-2010 5:46pm

CiaranMT wrote: »

That's what I took from it - the only possible punishment is seen as a joke by everyone in that video.

They also say it'll be great to see friends and the like already locked up.

This could be stopped by 1) making prisons spartan, as they should be, and 2) locking criminals up in different locations, separating friends and gang members.

I've said this in some other thread already, but that's why I think it would be a good idea to ship the criminals out to places like Nigeria and Pakistan where we deport people to anyway and pay their country's prison systems to lock up our criminals. I'd say it would definitely be cheaper than the €100 grand a year it costs to keep Irish prisoners in jail, it definitely would be more Spartan than what we have here, they wouldn’t come into contact with their Irish criminal mates.

We could keep the civil liberty brigade happy by allowing them access to Skype calls to their families back home.

CiaranMT · 07-12-2010 7:58pm

dave 27 wrote: »

Note at the end he mentioned

Southill
Moyross
Delmage
Weston

Forgive me if im wrong but isnt delmage park in Moyross? seems like they try to break everything up to make it seem like theres more areas

I think they only mentioned Delmege. I remember because I thought it was odd at the time.

maggot12345 · 07-12-2010 8:21pm

They all said jail was too easy, so make it tougher for them and they won't want to be there. No TV in the cell, no fancy food, seperate them from their fiends --send them off to different parts of the country or better still Africa where they would discover what prison should be like. Make them work in public maybe on a chain gang cleaning ditches. If they assault a prison officer punish them severely ie. if they punch or kick an officer tie up that arm / leg or whatever for a week and if they do it again for a month. As to the really young kids I feel terribly sorry for them --their parents shouldn't have a dog. They should be monitored very closely from birth and if the parents can't set boundaries their welfare payments should be hit hard. You would have to wonder why parents of kids as young as 5 and 6 leave them roam the streets at night.

Kev_ps3 · 07-12-2010 8:31pm

That programme showed weak liberalism in action. The right thing to do would be send in the guards and arrest all those people and send them to a camp indefinitely doing manual work for the state. Problem solved overnight.

rasper · 07-12-2010 8:56pm

The way I see it is these problem areas have been on the cards for the last 20 years , Ireland has taken all the appropiate steps to ghettoize certain areas in all the cities. These areas will get worse as they always do, and in 10 years time we'll have more areas and more lost youngsters.
We never learn and always repeat the mistakes that other countries try, look at the US or the UK has their hang em, flog em , cut their benefits campaigns worked

mike kelly · 07-12-2010 10:27pm

time to cut welfare to anti-social families

Twin-go · 08-12-2010 12:21pm

Time to consider Eugenics I'm afraid.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

krudler · 08-12-2010 1:11pm

niallers1 wrote: »

That programme was very sad and it really shows our failure as a society that this is accepted behaviour.

Shame on all of us.

Sorry what? "all of us"? even people who work, are law abiding and contribute their hard earned taxes to pay for these scum to mooch around on the dole? what have decent people got to be ashamed about over a incompetent social system and scumbags who dont want to contribute to society?

um7y1h83ge06nx · 08-12-2010 1:21pm

niallers1 wrote: »

That programme was very sad and it really shows our failure as a society that this is accepted behaviour.

Shame on all of us.

A lot of people hands are tied by weak liberals.

I have always maintained we need a strong police unit like Rio's BOPE or closer to home, the old Free State CID, whose work was summed up in a study as "Oriel House succeeded in its task of suppressing small scale republican activities in the Dublin area, not by the sophistication and efficiency of its intelligence work... but by the more direct method of striking terror into its opponents"

Once we clean out the vermin, only then can we truly carry out regeneration. If you tear down a rat's nest, rebuild it but leave the rats there, it is still a rat's nest.

I feel terribly sorry for the innocents caught up in this and nothing but contempt and hatred for the criminals.

mike kelly · 08-12-2010 11:33pm

gaf1983 wrote: »

I've said this in some other thread already, but that's why I think it would be a good idea to ship the criminals out to places like Nigeria and Pakistan where we deport people to anyway and pay their country's prison systems to lock up our criminals. I'd say it would definitely be cheaper than the €100 grand a year it costs to keep Irish prisoners in jail, it definitely would be more Spartan than what we have here, they wouldn’t come into contact with their Irish criminal mates.

We could keep the civil liberty brigade happy by allowing them access to Skype calls to their families back home.

the legals eagles would loose too much money, that will never happen

josephlaffan900 · 10-12-2010 11:38pm

does anyone know where i can watch this online tried rte player doesnt seem to on it??

Amazotheamazing · 11-12-2010 12:07am

josephlaffan900 wrote: »

does anyone know where i can watch this online tried rte player doesnt seem to on it??

http://www.rte.ie/player/#v=1086460

zuroph · 11-12-2010 4:32pm

so, from what I gather, he paid someone to produce a gun for the camera. Thats your tax money folks, handed over to scumbags just so he could get a camera shot of a gun. Also, cars were burnt out specifically because there was cameras there.

mike kelly · 11-12-2010 6:17pm

zuroph wrote: »

so, from what I gather, he paid someone to produce a gun for the camera. Thats your tax money folks, handed over to scumbags just so he could get a camera shot of a gun. Also, cars were burnt out specifically because there was cameras there.

same thing used to happen in Belfast. The press paid kids to throw stones at soldiers so they could get good pictures. I expect it's a standard module at journalism school. Doesn't mean that cars aren't burnt out and robbers don't used shotguns though.

flutered · 11-12-2010 6:20pm

ah yes so much for unbaised reporting, then again if it shows up our local politicians council corpo and gaurds its money well spent, plus it may get something done (doubtfull tho)

deathbot · 11-12-2010 7:35pm

osarusan wrote: »

We need to nuke the entire site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

That wouldn't work, ignoramous. Remove the people in housing estates, and in less than 10 years, the same situation would be produced again. Since people aren't perfect (you included) neither, is a society that is populated.

However, it's clear you're full of hatred for the poor or anyone who you feel is beneath you. Guaranteed if you were brought up on these estates, you'd be droning around with your pimp cane and bomber jacket, and tracksuit bottoms tucked into your socks.

krudler · 12-12-2010 1:52am

deathbot wrote: »

That wouldn't work, ignoramous. Remove the people in housing estates, and in less than 10 years, the same situation would be produced again. Since people aren't perfect (you included) neither, is a society that is populated.

However, it's clear you're full of hatred for the poor or anyone who you feel is beneath you. Guaranteed if you were brought up on these estates, you'd be droning around with your pimp cane and bomber jacket, and tracksuit bottoms tucked into your socks.

Hands down, best "missing the joke" post of 2010.

hint: watch more sci-fi movies. particularly ones about say...Aliens.

cruiser178 · 12-12-2010 2:22am

zuroph wrote: »

so, from what I gather, he paid someone to produce a gun for the camera. Thats your tax money folks, handed over to scumbags just so he could get a camera shot of a gun. Also, cars were burnt out specifically because there was cameras there.

and you have this from what source??just asking

dont think i need to tell you this(coz your a mod)links or gtfo
dont get me wrong im on your side but dont talk ****e if you cant back it up
i know posters here that had to leave their home through fear of intimation(<sp)fear of rape and because are now seeking phychyratic help and you throw words around very freely.I like to see you deal with this kind of asb and have the same attude

cruiser178 · 12-12-2010 2:28am

zuroph wrote: »

so, from what I gather, he paid someone to produce a gun for the camera. Thats your tax money folks, handed over to scumbags just so he could get a camera shot of a gun. Also, cars were burnt out specifically because there was cameras there.

source???or delete your post,you cant talk here say in a dabate,sure we could talk ****e if thats the case.

maxxie · 12-12-2010 2:31am

Too many travellers! That is the honest truth! Animals...

cruiser178 · 12-12-2010 2:38am

maxxie wrote: »

Too many travellers! That is the honest truth! Animals...

what? explain yourself,too many travellers has noting to do with this disussion

maxxie · 12-12-2010 2:50am

cruiser178 wrote: »

what? explain yourself,too many travellers has noting to do with this disussion

Whats there to explain, crime , feuding, intimidation! What names keep repeating themselves..

cruiser178 · 12-12-2010 3:07am

maxxie wrote: »

Whats there to explain, crime , feuding, intimidation! What names keep repeating themselves..

J C maxxie,im on your side but we cant name then(as much as we want too)...i want to tell(with proff)what these ***** do for a living,boards wont let me

zuroph · 12-12-2010 11:53am

cruiser i'm nou denying the asb in any way, i'm just pointing how low the journalist will go for footage. Giving these pricks money is only further enabling them. As for source, not every source is online, but trust me, its come pretty direct from the show.

flutered · 12-12-2010 1:12pm

cruiser178 wrote: »

J C maxxie,im on your side but we cant name then(as much as we want too)...i want to tell(with proff)what these ***** do for a living,boards wont let me

that is some possibly more of the problem, if one starts to tell the truth one of two things happen, ban, or infaction, thread closed, limerick mods are the worst, there was a thread on after hours on a recent accident, perhaps a bit over the top but it was ah, a limerick mod locked it, all these people have away too much proctectionism, they never have to fight their own corner, they have more rights than most people, they know them, they use them,if the disabled had as much protection, then the budget would not have hit them as hard.

Insect Overlord · 12-12-2010 5:40pm

This thread is gone to the dogs.

Flutered, if you have a problem with mods then I'd suggest you either sort it out or else stop posting controversially and asking for trouble.

Maxxie, if I find you disrupting another thread just to bitch about Travellers, I will ban you.

cruiser, if you're uncertain about whether or not a post is suitable, send me a PM and I'll let you know. I'm actually here to help people enjoy this forum, despite the rubbish Flutered is spouting.

Prime Time Investigates on Southill now

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