The Great 2011 PSN Outage Megathread *Post 1 updated*

WolfForager wrote: »

O get over yourself. Really, who gives a flying **** why it's down? It's down and that's that. Why give some group of bored cowardly teenagers the satisfaction of public acknowledgment?

I listened to their message, & tbh, I won't lose any sleep over it.

Do yo not think its over the top suing Graf for €1,000,000 for installing Linux on his PS3 & telling others how to. You can do it on a pc, why not a PS3?

This has been coming a long time, Sony are adept at turning people against the so called 'hackers' of the console. But there is a point to all this, the message is about being able to install what you want on your own console. If you disagree with that then fair dues, thats your opinion. I agree with it, I think if you buy & own something you should be able to do whatever the hell yo want to it (within reason, & PSN is a different point. I agree with keeping modded consoles off legitimate multiplayer gaming networks).

Yet today, if Sony gets their way, it would be illegal for me to install a freeware OS such as Linux on my PS3 & keep it off the network. By suing Hotz & Graf, they've pee'd off the wrong people here (watch the PR battle begin). And if you think these chaps are a group of spotty teenagers in their bedrooms, your sorely underestimating them.

The ends never justify the means in these cases, & this will likely alienate normaal every day gamers who don't really give a toss & just want to play COD with their mates etc. But what about the other loyal customers, that Sony pee'd off? What about the folks for who OtherOS was a selling feature? Those who prefer the firmware they're currently on, & have to nother way to play legit games they've bought?

The argument grows old, & I grow weary of constantly pointing out theres wrong on both sides. But these chaps are going to cause one big headache for Sony.

WolfForager wrote: »

Oh i'm pro custom firmware (i just get testy when people start messing around with the PSN), as i have stated before, but this entire ddos attack is ridiculous and is hurting the average joe more than anyone else.

Also apparently anonymous are releasing the identities of senior sony staff's familiy members online, that is REALLY taking it too far. Also harassing the Judge heading the case.

If anything this is giving Sony more fire power to use against GeoHot, especially if the claims of harassing the judge are true.

That has been falsely reported, I read here that Kakarotoks tweeted its more BS

Just spoke with the guy from #SonyRecon, he assures me there is nothing like that, no attacks on people and no plans to, ONLY *recon*, gathering information that is already publicly available, in the hopes of finding something incriminating to help in the lawsuit. Anonymous is against violence or threatening/attacking people. He says nothing illegal is being done, and news sites are reporting the information wrong.

I completely concur re CFW & PSN not mixing (and I'm not even a PSN user), that's just immature kids who used it for cheating in games etc. I think they've fixed it now anyway havn't they?

Is it down again??can't get signed in at all

tonydude wrote: »

Same here, cant sign in but my download list is continuing its downloads. Bloody psn

At least it's not just me,may dust off the snakes and ladders again :):)

Oh look, those evil hackers have told everyone how to restore access, if your suffering problems logging on due to the 'sporadic maintenance'

Go to Network Settings * Internet Connection Settings * Custom * Select your connection method * Manual Settings * Scroll through until you get to DNS Settings - Select Manual * Enter 8.8.8.8 for Primary and 8.8.4.4 for Secondary

Now we should let you know beforehand that this is not a proven method and what is doing is redirecting the DNS (Domain Name Service) from the original PSN servers to google's DNS servers. 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 are the ip addresses for the official Google DNS. A DNS converts ip addresses into readable website names and assists in related network traffic.According to reports of a good number of users, the fix seems to work for some but not for others. We just thought that you might want to give it a try.

Damn those blasted haxors. Source

WolfForager wrote: »

What's the point of attacking the server but then telling people how to get around it? :S

Em, I highly doubt their goal is to p1ss off legitimate gamers

WolfForager wrote: »

Hmmm, i was assuming their goal was to piss off gamers and that in turn would piss off Sony.

Also, what exactly does switching to Googles DNS do? Does it effect the security of the connection?

Nah I'd say p1ssing off gamers is a side effect of the point they're making & how they're making it. But not the end goal.

Headshot wrote: »

God I ****ing hate hackers

Just spoiling the enjoyment for everyone, ****ing ***** anyway

I know, terrible of them isn't it wanting to own what they paid for. And to rub salt into the wounds by telling peoepl how to get psn back? Jeez, these guys have some neck :rolleyes:

Headshot wrote: »

the big bad hackers throwing their toys out of the pram

I hopefully the judge throws the book at that geohot waster

You do know about the Sony rootkit scandal don't you?

Headshot wrote: »

go back to your modding forum for that ****

I paid to use sony ps3 for all its multi functions but since you bloody hackers have hacked the ps3, online play is at nightmare.

I dont want to change my network settings because of my open nat.

Then don't change them, & wait for the 'sporadic mainanence' to end

Headshot wrote: »

ya but nothing to do with my ps3, so I dont give a ****



wow, again I dont give a ****. this **** has ruined the ps3 online gaming community

There's a big difference between jailbreaking a phone and hacking a ps3.

There are no hacked PS3's on psn today, I can guarantee you that, so are you basing your information of media reported bs or were you just not aware of that?

Headshot wrote: »

How can you guarantee that ?

Because there are authentication checks carried out on PS3's now when a user logs into PSN, any discrepancies will result in a refusal of access. That includes CFW & Jailbreak code.

There are some problems with the infinity ward server, where previous cheaters have retained their cheats I think, but that's got nothing to do with Sony as Wolforager stated.

You really should chill out, it's only a games console. Go outside, its a lovely sunny day

F1ngers wrote: »

Em, I'd say it is.
Nobody is forcing them to attack the PSN - they are doing it willingly and knowing it will piss off gamers.
They could take their grievances to court, just like Sony did with Geohot.
If they have merits, the court will find in their favour.

Well I meant their end-goal really, they're obviously making enemies on both sides now. Unfortunately the courts seem to favour the bigger wallet in the states, the recent youtube & google subpoena was clearly a blow for the protection of individual rights & privacy online.

I'm not anti-Sony, nor am I pro-hacker. I simply 'get' the point, that you should be freely available to do what you own to your own hardware. Starting from a neutral perspective, I also believe it was wrong to sue graf for a million euro on the basis of his Linux work. It's excessive, & it's purely a scare tactic as opposed to actual compensation for any wrong-doing.

I think what Anonymous' end goal here is to hit Sony in the pocket, where they'll feel it the most. If people can't get onto the PS Store, or have paid for PSN Plus subscriptions that they can't use, it will cause pain for Sony. Of course doing that will alienate legit gamers, who only want to use the service, I think Anonymous will be well aware of that. Unfortunately there's nothing you, or I or anyone can say or do about it. They've obviously pee'd these guys off, & these people seem to be the real deal. I can't see a quick end to it

Need I remind any of you, that Sony were & still are in trouble over the use of stolen LG technology. And there's also the rootkit fiasco, the harvesting of person info by the PS3 too. None of these warrant the current action, but to some people like myself, it shows that the good guys are far from angelic too. For those that just want to play online games though, all of the above will mean nothing, & I can understand that too.