Things I've noticed/ Needed explaining/ Need explaining

batistuta9 · 23-03-2012 1:47am

at the end of season 2 when the greek says to vondas

"i'm not even greek" when their getting ready to leave.

Is he only saying that because of

the fake passports/new identities they can get as shown by vondas to nicky earlier with his hungarian passport

and when

the greek & vondas are at a table with some guy and passports from different east european countries

i think that

he is actually greek because of the meals we see them at & him saying to the turkish captain something like them being enemies in the old country and when he says that to vondas he's smiling, because the cops will be looking for greek nationals + they'll have some other nationalities on their passports

Funglegunk · 28-03-2012 5:47pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

at the end of season 2 when the greek says to vondas
"i'm not even greek" when their getting ready to leave.
Is he only saying that because of
the fake passports/new identities they can get as shown by vondas to nicky earlier with his hungarian passport
and when
the greek & vondas are at a table with some guy and passports from different east european countries

i think that
he is actually greek because of the meals we see them at & him saying to the turkish captain something like them being enemies in the old country and when he says that to vondas he's smiling, because the cops will be looking for greek nationals + they'll have some other nationalities on their passports

From a different thread about 6 months ago:

HavingCrack wrote: »

Interestingly some website (maybe wiki) concluded that the Greek was probably Cypriot or Pontic Greek (Georgia/Crimea) in origin due to the fact that he did actually speak Greek on several occasions
.

This would also explain why he

referred to the Turkish captain as an enemy

.

batistuta9 · 28-03-2012 6:18pm

Funglegunk wrote: »

From a different thread about 6 months ago:

This would also explain why he
referred to the Turkish captain as an enemy
.

yeah i came across something similar myself when googling it but no definite answer most of the

other countries they mention him being from like above, including armenia (they don't get on with turks either) which i seen somewhere have some reason for disliking turks and just more or less they just seem to think he's from that region of east europe

but i still think

he's actually a greek because of the way he's smiling when saying it to vondas; he's knows they'll not be looking for him when he's got the new passport

Snoopy1 · 31-03-2012 1:35pm

efla wrote: »

And likes Daniels. The camera hangs on Rawls watching him leave a number of times, and he makes a few overcompensating comments directly to him.

Im going to have to watch it all over again. I totally missed all of this

Toasterspark · 10-04-2012 10:25am

Spent the last few months watching all 5 seasons - I can finally go to forums without fear of spoilers!

Season 2:

Is Vondas gay? I remember in one scene with The Greek where he says "he wishes he had a son - but then he'd have to have a wife!". I was never sure whether his affection for Nick Sobtoka was fatherly love, or more that he fancied him.

briany · 17-04-2012 2:50am

Something I hear drug bosses and fiends refer to throughout a series is a 'smoker' usually when talking about a new package of heroin. Is that just simply slang for a new batch or what?

Chuck Stone · 17-04-2012 3:06am

Toasterspark wrote: »

Is Vondas gay? .

That's not what I took from that comment anyway.

The comment seems to correlate with the scene in that they have to move on as the operation was compromised.

If he had a wife he wouldn't be free to do business and business comes first.

“ Business. Always Business. ”
—The Greek

In this quote The Greek refers to the fact that everything they do is for the business they are running, from the manipulation of the ports to their own names and lives. They are twisting the world to meet their own ends but they are also an institution in itself, connected to the other institutions such as the FBI, the shipping docks, immigration, etc. It also hints at the fact that the crime business cycle will continue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Port_in_a_Storm

krudler · 18-04-2012 12:28pm

I'm watching season 4 again, there's a scene where Jimmy and Bunk are talking in a diner and they both have their kids with them, and Jimmy

asks one of Bunk's kids what he wants to be when he grows up, and Bunk says something like "he's still in the paediatric neurosurgeon phase" thats exactly what one of the kids in the class Bunny is running answers earlier in the season when he asks them what they want to be when they get older, is that Bunks kid in the class?

batistuta9 · 18-04-2012 1:07pm

krudler wrote: »

I'm watching season 4 again, there's a scene where Jimmy and Bunk are talking in a diner and they both have their kids with them, and Jimmy
asks one of Bunk's kids what he wants to be when he grows up, and Bunk says something like "he's still in the paediatric neurosurgeon phase" thats exactly what one of the kids in the class Bunny is running answers earlier in the season when he asks them what they want to be when they get older, is that Bunks kid in the class?

no.

that's a kid called albert - he storms out of that class later in the series, then you find out his mother died- there's a black guy who's a paediatric neurosurgeon & kinda famous/well known or something at the hospital, that's why the both say it.

krudler · 18-04-2012 3:27pm

batistuta9 wrote: »

no.
that's a kid called albert - he storms out of that class later in the series, then you find out his mother died- there's a black guy who's a paediatric neurosurgeon & kinda famous/well known or something at the hospital, that's why the both say it.

ah thats it, cheers

A Primal Nut · 25-05-2012 2:38am

Why do people guarding stash houses not have guns when Omar arrives? There is one time in Season 1 Omar just walks up with a shotgun to a Barksdale stash house, tells them to drop the stash and they just do it. They could have easily just stuck a gun out the window and shot him. In Season 5, episode 8, after he gets police to arrest two of the guys protecting the corner, he simply walks up to a stash house, tells them to hand the stash out the door; they do so. They could have easily just stuck a gun out the door instead and shot him. Another time he walks up to a crew while limping, shoots one of them in the legs and the rest run away. If this is anyone else they would stand their ground and shoot him, but when it's Omar they just run away. Omar just seems too invincible sometimes in the show. Is it just because of his reputation? That everyone is scared of him more than anyone else?

mikemac1 · 25-05-2012 5:43am

Maybe sentencing?

Wiki tells me if you're found with a concealed weapon in the drug trade it's a mandatory five years for a first offence

First time drug offence you might get away with probation

Maybe they are worried the soliders would flip and tell all if they were ever raided and caught and facing mandatory sentances?

Just a theory

DeepBlue · 25-05-2012 11:08am

As Omar says in series one - "You come at the King, you best not miss".

I think it's simply that Omar had built up such a reputation because of his deeds and the fact that most who had gone up against him came off second best that he simply scared them sh*tless.
There was the time he went to the shop in his jammies to get Honey Nut and some hoppers gave up their stash at the sight of him.

briany · 25-05-2012 2:08pm

DeepBlue wrote: »

As Omar says in series one - "You come at the King, you best not miss".

I think it's simply that Omar had built up such a reputation because of his deeds and the fact that most who had gone up against him came off second best that he simply scared them sh*tless.
There was the time he went to the shop in his jammies to get Honey Nut and some hoppers gave up their stash at the sight of him.

Omar's funeral eulogy : "He looooved him some Honey Nut, he looooooved robbin' drug dealers (cut to Prop Joe looking vaguely annoyed) and he looooved gay sex."

Omar's granny : "He worked at the airport!"

Dandelion6 · 26-05-2012 12:52pm

I asked the same question about Omar, I think it stretches credulity TBH. But it

kept him alive for longer

so I don't really mind.

Dave! · 10-10-2012 10:16pm

Season 4:

Just watching the episode where Chris kills Michael/Bug's dad. What's with Chris going so crazy over it and beating him to death? Is there an implication there that Chris had been raped before? Either that or it's just that he really doesn't like child molesters; but Snoop presumably doesn't like them either, yet she manages to keep her cool.

Squarewave · 10-10-2012 11:48pm

Dave! wrote: »

Season 4:
Just watching the episode where Chris kills Michael/Bug's dad. What's with Chris going so crazy over it and beating him to death? Is there an implication there that Chris had been raped before? Either that or it's just that he really doesn't like child molesters; but Snoop presumably doesn't like them either, yet she manages to keep her cool.

It's implied, although never revealed outright.

Michael never actually says he was abused but Chris seems to understand immediately why he wants Bug's dad dead - Snoop doesn't pick up on it at all and is surprised when Chris kills him so violently

Mardy Bum · 17-10-2012 10:27pm

Dave! wrote: »

Season 4:
Just watching the episode where Chris kills Michael/Bug's dad. What's with Chris going so crazy over it and beating him to death? Is there an implication there that Chris had been raped before? Either that or it's just that he really doesn't like child molesters; but Snoop presumably doesn't like them either, yet she manages to keep her cool.

Presumably Chris's sociopathic tendencies can be attributed to some sort of neglect in his past which may have been abuse as a child. On the otherhand he may have been born sociopathic but that seen seems to reveal that he had a personal grudge against child molesters. He lost his cool, something which doesn't happen again when hes on a "job".

spitfireIRL · 23-10-2012 12:38pm

Penn wrote: »

From Wikipedia:
Koutris is an agent in the FBI's counter-terrorism unit who feeds information on the bureau’s activity to The Greek. He is responsible for telling the Greek about an investigation by Baltimore police and the local FBI, and gives The Greek warning enough to temporarily shut down his smuggling operation. He is rewarded with information on a large shipment of drugs that he seizes on the FBI’s behalf. Koutris is also responsible for telling The Greek that his contact in the Baltimore port, Frank Sobotka, has agreed to give evidence against him. This information leads to Sobotka’s death. FBI Agent Fitzhugh realizes Koutris is a leak, but is unable to do anything because Koutris is well-regarded because of the drug arrest. It is implied (and has subsequently been confirmed by creator David Simon) that Koutris is protecting The Greek as a confidential informant for information about potential acts of terrorism; rather than being "corrupt" per se, Koutris is actually following standard FBI policy.

sorry I know it's an old post but just to confirm this, in an earlier episode Vondas and Eton are talking about the Colombians, 'They take our chemicals and they do not pay. They are thinking that this is all profit for us.' Eton says the Greek will be angry and Vondas says 'The Greek? He will be smart.' Next thing you know, the Colombians crack/coke shipment is busted... took me watching it three of four times to cop that. Tricksy producers!

Wacker The Attacker · 24-10-2012 7:45pm

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone knows....
Are Randy and Cheese related?...when his real name is up on the case board he has the same surname as Randy but I don't remember anything being mentioned about any connection.

Yes. They are father and son

gaius c · 10-01-2013 12:48am

Dave! wrote: »

Ahh but who could resist Daniels' infective personality, his warm sense of humour, his disarming charm, and his ...... deceptively well-defined abs...??? If wanting to shag Daniels makes you gay, then gay me up!

Reckon the cameraman might have fancied him too such was the amount of topless shots of him!

shenanigans1982 wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone knows....
Are Randy and Cheese related?...when his real name is up on the case board he has the same surname as Randy but I don't remember anything being mentioned about any connection.

It has been confirmed by Simon and with his wheeling-dealing nature it really fits that he's related to Prop Joe.

mloc wrote: »

I can't remember if they highlighted this elsewhere, but if they didn't it's even cooler because it's so subtle.
I like the way Omar, after robbing the co-ops drug shipment asks for 20 on the dollar from Prop Joe. Prop Joe then says 30 on the dollar to Marlow, clearly seeing an opportunity to make cash himself.

Yeah, cheeky Joe. Guy didn't get to the top of the Baltimore drug trade by being 100% honest. It's exactly the sort of "stroke" I'd imagine Randy pulling.

newballsplease · 20-03-2013 8:18pm

Who did Kima's ex partner have the kid with?

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 20-03-2013 8:20pm

kima..

batistuta9 · 20-03-2013 10:45pm

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »

kima..

Kima hardy has a dick :pac:

I don't think the sperm donor is known

krudler · 25-03-2013 12:37am

newballsplease wrote: »

Who did Kima's ex partner have the kid with?

IVF wasnt it, they were talking about the cost involved at 10 grand a time or something in one episode.

06-06-2013 11:40pm

Two things I noticed yesterday.

I'm on my 3rd watch now, so I'm at the stage where small details are sticking out.

One intentional. One unintentional.

The unintentional doesn't need a screenshot.
When they set up Stinkum with the stash in his car, the young guy bails and they arrest him.
For some reason they decide to bring the teenager to the basement they are working out of. And they leave out the big board with all of Barksdales crew. Since the kid is affiliated, letting him see their entire set up would compromise the operation.
Don't think they intended to leave the operation board in the scene(if ye had to bring him there you'd remove the board with the pictures and links) but you can see it behind him a few times.

The intentional.
In that same episode McNulty is at his desk using the typewriter, though the writing isn't clear, you can tell there's a copy of the Proclamation of the Republic on the wall.
It's blurry-maybe a HD version makes it easier to see- but if you're familiar with the lay out of the document, it's recognisable.
Great attention to detail considering it's never used as a prop.

chicken foot · 14-07-2013 11:11pm

Also noticed in season 5, episode 7 when the reporter is chatting to bubbles in the soup kitchen you can see a picture of the Hunger Strikers on the wall behind bubbles head - amazing attention to detail, a lot of irish imagery used.

pvt6zh395dqbrj · 26-10-2013 3:43am

In season one, when they take they take the dnr's off the payphones - what exactly are they looking at?

Because they make a point of saying how all the numbers dialled are jibberish and all the numbers received on some pagers are jibberish. Then they figure out that the drug dealers are using a code that Prez figures out...

Here's my problem - Lester finds D'Angelo's number written on the wall - why isn't it written in code?

e_e · 30-10-2013 7:40pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ANAtaQsBL4

The foreshadowing for Bodie at 2:10.

MrKingsley · 31-10-2013 7:24pm

Madilynn Weak Poppycock wrote: »

In season one, when they take they take the dnr's off the payphones - what exactly are they looking at?

Because they make a point of saying how all the numbers dialled are jibberish and all the numbers received on some pagers are jibberish. Then they figure out that the drug dealers are using a code that Prez figures out...

Here's my problem - Lester finds D'Angelo's number written on the wall - why isn't it written in code?

I would say that that was just indiscipline by the guys in the stash house. They probably wouldve thought that if it gets raided by omar or police then the 4/5 g-packs they had was bad enough so what difference does it make if there is a mid level dealers number written on the wall.

For all of the genius behind the avon, prop joe and marlo's methods there are always a couple of morons with them who arent careful. Gerrard and sapper(avon),Cheese and drax(the one they didnt promote) for joe and kenard, bernard and little kevin for marlo.

At the end the day if all of their soldiers were as careful as themselves, narcotics wouldnt have been able to get close to them

kumate_champ07 · 19-11-2013 12:29am

does Herc cross over to the darkside at the end? he helps his cop friends but then rats them out to his new boss. will he throw them the odd bone in the future or is he now just another corrupt player in the Game?

Mardy Bum · 19-11-2013 12:01pm

kumate_champ07 wrote: »

does Herc cross over to the darkside at the end? he helps his cop friends but then rats them out to his new boss. will he throw them the odd bone in the future or is he now just another corrupt player in the Game?

Herc is too stupid to know either way. He wouldn't even see it as ratting them out because he lacks the intellect for even that as he would see it as him just doing his job as a private investigator.
Levy is the man behind it all pulling the stringers and collecting the dough.

Dolph Starbeam · 04-04-2014 2:44pm

From season 5.

I've never understood why Nick Sobotka stayed at the docks and didn't go into witness protection? And why do Vondas and The Greek return when they are known to police? And why do they not have Nick killed?

kumate_champ07 · 04-04-2014 2:49pm

YayaBanana wrote: »

From season 5.
I've never understood why Nick Sobotka stayed at the docks and didn't go into witness protection? And why do Vondas and The Greek return when they are known to police? And why do they not have Nick killed?

probably wanted to man it out,

the Greek returned after the heat died down, he's a business man and went back to business. higher powers were aware of his activities but the oridinary cops wouldnt be privy to that information and would go after him. I think he might also have been some kind of high level informer re: terrorist activites

newbie11 · 14-05-2014 9:15am

newballsplease wrote: »

Who did Kima's ex partner have the kid with?

Kima and Cheryl had the kid together, when the kid arrived Kima got bored and moved on. Later she came back but found out Cheryl was with someone else

kryogen · 18-05-2014 8:31pm

The stay at home life, being a mom thing, wasnt for her at that point in time.

I call it her "McNulty stage"

mailliw_11 · 24-08-2014 12:37am

YayaBanana wrote: »

From season 5.
I've never understood why Nick Sobotka stayed at the docks and didn't go into witness protection? And why do Vondas and The Greek return when they are known to police? And why do they not have Nick killed?

during the finale of season 2 it shows nick looking in on the docks, think it might be part of the montage at the end, a car drives past nick and i really though he was going to be shot by them. nice to include him in season 5, for old times sake

raindog.promo · 24-08-2014 8:09am

He's also part of the group that shout abuse at Carcetti at the opening of an apartment block (or something similar, you can see the fat developer guy with him - Andy Crawcheck? [or similar, it's been a while since I last watched it]) on the waterfront which Frank Sobotka was trying to save in Season 2.

Thidp · 13-04-2015 2:24pm

/watch?v=hDfoWLcGfqo (New user, can't post links. Just put "youtube.com" before)

Anyone else noticed that watching for the first time?

This show is incredible.

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