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Grim. · 11-06-2012 12:33pm

not long to go now till the 24H of Le mans, scrutineering today and track action starts on Wednesday

BUBBLE WRAP · 11-06-2012 12:38pm

Grim. wrote: »

not long to go now till the 24H of Le mans, scrutineering today and track action starts on Wednesday

Hi, im new to this whole 24hr of le mans, jass

. Is that on T.V.? If it is what channel?

frostie500 · 11-06-2012 1:00pm

BUBBLE WRAP wrote: »

Hi, im new to this whole 24hr of le mans, jass . Is that on T.V.? If it is what channel?

Eurosport will show the whole race, coverage is split between both channels. Im actually not even going to get to see race this year, going to Silverstone for the MotoGP instead.

Is anyone heading over to it?

CaptainFreedom · 11-06-2012 2:40pm

Heading over tomorrow, but will spend most time in the media centre, Id say no Irish printed media have the slightest knowledge or interest that there are 2 Irish funded teams (entered under the Tricolour) and 1 Irish driver there

Killinator · 11-06-2012 11:45pm

On the ferry over tomorrow and driving down, can't bloody wait, 3rd year in a row so its a bug that has thoroughly implanted itself.
Car is dressed in a Gulf livery with number 80 on the side(80th running of LeMans) and will fly the Irish flag.

As said not a mention of the Irish teams in any media, still its only National Geographic's number 1 sporting event in the world, whatever....

Also for anyone going who may not have got the email sent from the ACO, do not expose you're tickets to light for any extended periods, and do not use the window display for camping tickets, apparently the tickets were printed on faulty paper which will turn black and become unscannable(to permit entry) if this happens, there will be areas to print off the tickets again at various venues around the circuit.

Grim. · 13-06-2012 10:35pm

The Flywheel on the Audi sounds pretty feckin cool

Ghost Train · 15-06-2012 5:52pm

Any uk tv coverage this year? Or it just Eurosport or online?

kierank01 · 15-06-2012 8:18pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Has McNish had a massive accident yet?

No Fisichella seems to have taken that job.

Amazing work by AF Corse to build a car from scratch in a couple of hours.

ARGINITE · 16-06-2012 12:25pm

kierank01 wrote: »

Amazing work by AF Corse to build a car from scratch in a couple of hours.

+1

CaptainFreedom · 19-06-2012 10:16pm

LIGHTNING wrote: »

Has McNish had a massive accident yet?

No but he had a little accident on Sunday morning and threw certain victory as far away as he could

Grim. · 27-06-2012 1:01am

fecking awesome onboard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFrHsXf9x5A

it also reminds me why i love corvettes that engine is a monster

Killinator · 29-06-2012 12:07am

Grim. wrote: »

fecking awesome onboard

CORVETTE VIDEO

it also reminds me why i love corvettes that engine is a monster

That is class,
Looking at the LCD rear view he has, its any wonder they can tell whats behind them, just constant blinding bright lights:D

CaptainFreedom · 29-06-2012 2:27pm

Killinator wrote: »

That is class,
Looking at the LCD rear view he has, its any wonder they can tell whats behind them, just constant blinding bright lights:D

Its a bone of contention among most drivers, little point in flashing until you are within a few car lengths/passing distance, not miles away

CaptainFreedom · 01-07-2012 11:30am

http://www.blancpain-endurance-series.com/ - 3 hour GT3 race from Paul Ricard, race coverage starts around 13.00 Irish time

KenSwee · 07-08-2012 8:08pm

ELMS has cancelled it's last two races and optioned for a trip across the water to join up with ALMS. It's looking dodgy for the whole LMS set up. I'm checking the ALMS website and I saw that they completely screwed up the televised coverage with trying to focus on the web feed. The whole feed crashed. It seemed ok on Motors TV but apparently to make matters worse, the TV coverage started one hour into the race. It looks like the American network providing the coverage didn't have red button option for it's viewers and there a lot of unhappy fans threatening to make the cross over to Grand Am for their sportscar fix.

http://www.alms.com/articles/atherton-web-crash-not-acceptable

This year has seen a disastrous coverage by the TV stations with mixed up commentating, bad video feeds and non stop plugs for sponsors eating into the race. Nobody else is winning apart from Muscle Milk and the multiple categories seem very confusing to everybody bar the hardcore enthusiast. Grand Am looks like the prominent series this year with different winners and less confusion with the different categories. It reminds me of the Indy/Champ battle and we all know how that ended up.

KenSwee · 10-08-2012 12:59pm

Great looking car.

CaptainFreedom · 13-08-2012 12:38am

KenSwee wrote: »

ELMS has cancelled it's last two races and optioned for a trip across the water to join up with ALMS. It's looking dodgy for the whole LMS set up. I'm checking the ALMS website and I saw that they completely screwed up the televised coverage with trying to focus on the web feed. The whole feed crashed. It seemed ok on Motors TV but apparently to make matters worse, the TV coverage started one hour into the race. It looks like the American network providing the coverage didn't have red button option for it's viewers and there a lot of unhappy fans threatening to make the cross over to Grand Am for their sportscar fix.

http://www.alms.com/articles/atherton-web-crash-not-acceptable

This year has seen a disastrous coverage by the TV stations with mixed up commentating, bad video feeds and non stop plugs for sponsors eating into the race.

I agree with you, but never forget, no sponsors = no coverage, so Id rather put up with the ads than a non existant stream

Nobody else is winning apart from Muscle Milk and the multiple categories seem very confusing to everybody bar the hardcore enthusiast. Grand Am looks like the prominent series this year with different winners and less confusion with the different categories. It reminds me of the Indy/Champ battle and we all know how that ended up.

Granted Muscle Milk keep winning but some wins have have taken an even bigger effort than normal - they came from 4 laps behind to win at Lime Rock Park. Dyson are being hampered by the Lola chassis - moreso no Lola support/parts than the team themselves. The recession is hitting the series too, with P2 promising but lacking, the GTC class is good though, but only there to make up numbers and due to the fundig Yokohama tyres are putting in.

Grand-Am is owned by NASCAR so there is more discontent in the series lately with dissatisfied teams and drivers

ALMS has THE best GT racing in the world though, factory Corvette and Viper teams against factory supported BMW,Ferrari,Lotus and Porsche teams, with mostly reasonable Balance of Performance to keep it tight. When SRT/Riley get the Viper fully dialled in it will be even better. The big question mark though is what will replace the BMW M3 in 2013, rumours abound of a compromised Z4, but wait and see as the GT3 Z4 uses the M3 engine, not available in a roadgoing Z4 and therefore illegal under ACO (ALMS) rules

ALMS promotes itself as both 'World Class' and 'For the Fans' so it will be interesting to see how they handle the broadcasting disaster

KenSwee · 27-08-2012 4:38pm

CaptainFreedom wrote: »

I agree with you, but never forget, no sponsors = no coverage, so Id rather put up with the ads than a non existant stream

Granted Muscle Milk keep winning but some wins have have taken an even bigger effort than normal - they came from 4 laps behind to win at Lime Rock Park. Dyson are being hampered by the Lola chassis - moreso no Lola support/parts than the team themselves. The recession is hitting the series too, with P2 promising but lacking, the GTC class is good though, but only there to make up numbers and due to the fundig Yokohama tyres are putting in.

Grand-Am is owned by NASCAR so there is more discontent in the series lately with dissatisfied teams and drivers

ALMS has THE best GT racing in the world though, factory Corvette and Viper teams against factory supported BMW,Ferrari,Lotus and Porsche teams, with mostly reasonable Balance of Performance to keep it tight. When SRT/Riley get the Viper fully dialled in it will be even better. The big question mark though is what will replace the BMW M3 in 2013, rumours abound of a compromised Z4, but wait and see as the GT3 Z4 uses the M3 engine, not available in a roadgoing Z4 and therefore illegal under ACO (ALMS) rules

ALMS promotes itself as both 'World Class' and 'For the Fans' so it will be interesting to see how they handle the broadcasting disaster

Well, ALMS certainly gave us a good ending. I watched it on Motors TV and I know that it's broadcast was delayed (not sure how long as I watched the race the next morning) but as far as I could see, the broadcast was good this time. I did read that there were huge problems with the various online options available to for fans so it seems that the whole TV problem is beyond the organisers capabilities for this season. I even read that one channel decided to broadcast 8 year old's playing baseball instead on the race so that tells us what problems the event had.
I do hope the championship continues as it would be a shame to see it go down the tube.

The World Endurance Championship? Has this has done damage to LMS events around the world. Could it be possible for ELMS & ALMS to combine into a global series with heavy emphasis on European and American events?

Definitely agree with you that the GT class is far better in ALMS.

As a footnote, big kudos to Patrick Dempsey and his team in both ALMS and Grand Am. He is investing a lot and I hope his efforts are fulfilled as I think he and his team are setting a great example and benchmark.

CaptainFreedom · 01-09-2012 9:27pm

ALMS Baltimore GP time http://www.alms.com/camera/television-broadcast

KenSwee · 02-09-2012 11:02am

Well done to Damien Faulkner with solid

3rd in class.

KenSwee · 02-09-2012 11:06am

I saw on the Motors TV website that they were showing all the races bar Le Mans, live but I didn't see the last race (Silverstone) on their listing. Am I wrong or was the races shown only in highlights/delayed coverage?

Also has anybody seen the magazine program for the WEC on Eurosport?
I thought is was full of too much talking and very little racing. I can se that they are trying to promote the championship by introducing drivers, teams and some tips but asking Martin Brundle how it feels to pass backmarkers? I thought it was bit too much.

CaptainFreedom · 02-09-2012 12:10pm

GT1 Championship Race from Moscow Raceway just starting http://gt1world.com/pages/live

kierank01 · 02-09-2012 2:04pm

KenSwee wrote: »

I saw on the Motors TV website that they were showing all the races bar Le Mans, live but I didn't see the last race (Silverstone) on their listing. Am I wrong or was the races shown only in highlights/delayed coverage?

Also has anybody seen the magazine program for the WEC on Eurosport?
I thought is was full of too much talking and very little racing. I can se that they are trying to promote the championship by introducing drivers, teams and some tips but asking Martin Brundle how it feels to pass backmarkers? I thought it was bit too much.

sometimes I think there is not enough talking/features on motors, but that WEC show on eurosport was a bit much.
They seemed to totally ignore lmp2, apart from the wheels coming off the Murphy car.

CaptainFreedom · 02-09-2012 3:01pm

kierank01 wrote: »

sometimes I think there is not enough talking/features on motors, but that WEC show on eurosport was a bit much.
They seemed to totally ignore lmp2, apart from the wheels coming off the Murphy car.

Unfortunately its a case of what people want to see, granted the LMP2 class produces some fantastic racing, but its not at the front of the field, same with GTE

. I was there, epic weekend though

KenSwee · 03-09-2012 12:12am

kierank01 wrote: »

sometimes I think there is not enough talking/features on motors,

My guess is that Motors TV won't pay for presenters.

CaptainFreedom · 03-09-2012 12:31am

KenSwee wrote: »

My guess is that Motors TV won't pay for presenters.

Probably, they are a very low budget operation

KenSwee · 04-09-2012 6:49pm

CaptainFreedom wrote: »

I was there, epic weekend though

Is it going to be a long term formula in your opinion?
How do you think will it work along side Le Mans and Grand Am?

CaptainFreedom · 05-09-2012 10:53am

KenSwee wrote: »

Is it going to be a long term formula in your opinion?
How do you think will it work along side Le Mans and Grand Am?

First Question: Yes

Second Question: Ill give my opinion later after the formal announcement of the Grand Am - ALMS takeover ahem merger

KenSwee · 05-09-2012 3:50pm

CaptainFreedom wrote: »

Second Question: Ill give my opinion later after the formal announcement of the Grand Am - ALMS takeover ahem merger

Is there something I should know?

CaptainFreedom · 05-09-2012 3:55pm

KenSwee wrote: »

Is there something I should know?

http://www.motorsport.com/grandam/news/grand-am-and-alms-series-officially-announce-historic-merger-in-daytona/

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