Car engine oil

V.W.L 11 · 17-07-2014 7:40pm #1

seen this stuff called north sea recently and it was €10 for 5L,so i got it for my car,now its smokey,avoid this oil,back to castrol for me without a doubt!anyone had this issue???

magentis · 17-07-2014 7:44pm

In fairness what did you expect for a tenner!
Micksgarage has some great deals on total oil at the mo,try there.
Thanks for the heads up on that stuff though!

V.W.L 11 · 17-07-2014 7:59pm

magentis wrote: »

In fairness what did you expect for a tenner!
Micksgarage has some great deals on total oil at the mo,try there.
Thanks for the heads up on that stuff though!

i'll be getting castrol in my local MF tomorrow cant go wrong with it but avoid North Sea oil

magentis · 17-07-2014 8:10pm

what car is it for?

V.W.L 11 · 17-07-2014 9:04pm

magentis wrote: »

what car is it for?

hyundai accent 1.3 its a 00

magentis · 17-07-2014 9:19pm

Castrol gtx is your only man.

V.W.L 11 · 17-07-2014 9:37pm

magentis wrote: »

Castrol gtx is your only man.

it always was,chanced a different brand,didnt work,back to usual brand :pac:

V.W.L 11 · 17-07-2014 9:58pm

https://www.google.ie/search?q=north+sea+oil&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mTjIU4vCA4PX7AbEzIDoAQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=673#q=north+sea+lubricants&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=F8SfCjb3FHKrSM%253A%3BnscraEAceaWNFM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.demonoils.co.uk%252Fmedia%252Fcatalog%252Fproduct%252Fcache%252F1%252Fimage%252F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%252F7%252F2%252F7226.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.demonoils.co.uk%252Findex.php%252Fnorth-sea-lubricants%252Fnorth-sea-lubricants-low-ash-le-5w40-5l.html%3B503%3B503

That is the oil,very thin stuff compared to Castrol though

quadrifoglio verde · 19-07-2014 1:07am

From seeing the inside of a couple of engines using castrol I wouldn't use it either. Seems to be glorified chip pan ****e

Tropheus · 19-07-2014 2:18am

€10 for 5l. For that price it wasn't far short of water. :rolleyes: I've used Castrol Edge for the last 10 years and can't fault it. Not cheap, but it's the engine that's at stake.

toastedpickles · 19-07-2014 2:27am

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

From seeing the inside of a couple of engines using castrol I wouldn't use it either. Seems to be glorified chip pan ****e

I can attest to this statement, I've proof to back it up too

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 7:02am

Tropheus wrote: »

€10 for 5l. For that price it wasn't far short of water. :rolleyes: I've used Castrol Edge for the last 10 years and can't fault it. Not cheap, but it's the engine that's at stake.

yeah i was able to see the difference in the 2 oils one like water the other seems thicker and both are 10/40

demanufactured · 19-07-2014 9:39am

Alway buy from your local motor factor , and only use the specified oil....simples.

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 10:48am

demanufactured wrote: »

Alway buy from your local motor factor , and only use the specified oil....simples.

it is my local but that weird stuff is now all they sell

demanufactured · 19-07-2014 11:08am

I've heard of the north sea stuff...not bad apparently , theres a chance there is some other issue with your engine too.

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 11:24am

demanufactured wrote: »

I've heard of the north sea stuff...not bad apparently , theres a chance there is some other issue with your engine too.

engine was fine before i put it in and is now good ith castrol,north sea aint very common though.

corkgsxr · 19-07-2014 11:33am

quadrifoglio verde wrote: »

From seeing the inside of a couple of engines using castrol I wouldn't use it either. Seems to be glorified chip pan ****e

toastedpickles wrote: »

I can attest to this statement, I've proof to back it up too

I use castrol in everything mighty oil.

My gsxr went from 98.8 with silcoline to 109.98 with castrol. No other changes to the bike.

And for a 11 year old bike the engine is in top condition.

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 11:45am

corkgsxr wrote: »

I use castrol in everything mighty oil.

My gsxr went from 98.8 with silcoline to 109.98 with castrol. No other changes to the bike.

And for a 11 year old bike the engine is in top condition.

i agree!!!a gallon of castrol for €18 is the job!well worth it

toastedpickles · 19-07-2014 12:11pm

corkgsxr wrote: »

I use castrol in everything mighty oil.

My gsxr went from 98.8 with silcoline to 109.98 with castrol. No other changes to the bike.

And for a 11 year old bike the engine is in top condition.

Magnatec was used religiously in my car, and when we dropped the sump on it well yeah it wasn't pretty

corkgsxr · 19-07-2014 1:50pm

toastedpickles wrote: »

Magnatec was used religiously in my car, and when we dropped the sump on it well yeah it wasn't pretty

What car

Alanstrainor · 19-07-2014 2:03pm

corkgsxr wrote: »

What car

Saab...

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 2:14pm

Alanstrainor wrote: »

Saab...

was that a diesel 95???

toastedpickles · 19-07-2014 2:16pm

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

was that a diesel 95???

Petrol 95 I know they've a reputation but none the less

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 2:24pm

toastedpickles wrote: »

Petrol 95 I know they've a reputation but none the less

i was offered a 2.0 petrol version recently ,full leather interior ,140k on it,all for 300 euro,all was good until I discovered it needed a bottom end rebuild.did yours OP?

toastedpickles · 19-07-2014 2:45pm

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

i was offered a 2.0 petrol version recently ,full leather interior ,140k on it,all for 300 euro,all was good until I discovered it needed a bottom end rebuild.did yours OP?

Nope thankfully I've went a bit all out to make sure it doesn't happen but anyways story for another day and all that

Kenny Logins · 19-07-2014 3:02pm

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

seen this stuff called north sea recently and it was €10 for 5L,so i got it for my car,now its smokey,avoid this oil,back to castrol for me without a doubt!anyone had this issue???

Where did you get that for a tenner? I use it to top up a Focus with no issues.

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 3:04pm

Kenny Logins wrote: »

Where did you get that for a tenner? I use it to top up a Focus with no issues.

got it on a trip home to Cork,never. again will i buy it,very watery

jca · 19-07-2014 3:04pm

toastedpickles wrote: »

I can attest to this statement, I've proof to back it up too

Really? I'd love to see it.

Avns1s · 19-07-2014 3:07pm

jca wrote: »

Really? I'd love to see it.

So would I, supported by some evidence that whatever the problem was, that it wouldn't have been caused by using any other oil the same way.

Castrol would be regarded as a premium oil and would be recommended my many manufacturers including BMW.

Also, it's worth noting that there are many "Castrol oils" and that you can do as much damage using oil of the wrong spec as you can using "inferior" oil or by not changing oil on time.

toyotaavensis · 19-07-2014 4:36pm

I have never used the north sea stuff but i am wondering if the stuff you got happened to be from a bad batch.
Surely if it was usually this bad, nobody would be using it.

corkgsxr · 19-07-2014 4:47pm

toastedpickles wrote: »

Nope thankfully I've went a bit all out to make sure it doesn't happen but anyways story for another day and all that

So a engine very prone to sludging. Maybe the reason the car kept going fine is because it had castrol?

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 4:56pm

toyotaavensis wrote: »

I have never used the north sea stuff but i am wondering if the stuff you got happened to be from a bad batch.
Surely if it was usually this bad, nobody would be using it.

could well have been from a bad batch,but my first experience is definitely my last,has anyone on this thread ever used it for a full oil change rather than just topping up?

Kenny Logins · 19-07-2014 4:57pm

toyotaavensis wrote: »

I have never used the north sea stuff but i am wondering if the stuff you got happened to be from a bad batch.
Surely if it was usually this bad, nobody would be using it.

...or the wrong type? The labeling is pretty poor and it took me a few minutes to find the one I wanted.

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 4:59pm

Kenny Logins wrote: »

...or the wrong type? The labeling is pretty poor and it took me a few minutes to find the one I wanted.

its the 10w40 part synthetic I got but was like water,got the same type of Castrol ( my usual) and you can see the difference between them,either way the old reliable done the job for me yet again :cool:

Kenny Logins · 19-07-2014 5:03pm

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

its the 10w40 part synthetic I got but was like water,got the same type of Castrol ( my usual) and you can see the difference between them,either way the old reliable done the job for me yet again :cool:

There are a few different 10w-40s listed - http://www.northsealubricants.com/passenger_car_motor_oils.html

V.W.L 11 · 19-07-2014 5:08pm

Kenny Logins wrote: »

There are a few different 10w-40s listed - http://www.northsealubricants.com/passenger_car_motor_oils.html

it was the guy in the motor factors store who selected the oil for me after looking up the reg on his computer.went to another MF,same story,asked for Castrol and no issues thank fcuk

toastedpickles · 19-07-2014 8:43pm

jca wrote: »

Really? I'd love to see it.

Avns1s wrote: »

So would I, supported by some evidence that whatever the problem was, that it wouldn't have been caused by using any other oil the same way.

Castrol would be regarded as a premium oil and would be recommended my many manufacturers including BMW.

Also, it's worth noting that there are many "Castrol oils" and that you can do as much damage using oil of the wrong spec as you can using "inferior" oil or by not changing oil on time.

corkgsxr wrote: »

So a engine very prone to sludging. Maybe the reason the car kept going fine is because it had castrol?

Here ye go, I know you'l jump to the "oh its because its a saab line" I bought the car off a guy who swore by using castrol when i got it i took it home and took it off the road, dropped the sump and here's what came out, pickup strainer was blocked to the last

And some work later

Anyways, it happens due to using the wrong oil and a bad breather system or so i've been lead to believe, ever since I've been using mobil one and checking for sludge where i can, and theres not a spec of it around anyways, that's my side of the argument take what ye want from it

toyotaavensis · 19-07-2014 8:47pm

To be fair castrol recommend edge oil not magnatec for the saab.
From looking at saab forums on the web they all say that if you use Mobil 1 ESP 5w30, you wont have any bother.

toastedpickles · 19-07-2014 8:50pm

toyotaavensis wrote: »

To be fair castrol recommend edge oil not magnatec for the saab.
From looking at saab forums on the web they all say that if you use Mobil 1 ESP 5w30, you wont have any bother.

I asked the guy when i was buying it what he put in during his time owning the car and proud as punch he goes "4.5 litres of castrols finest magnatec 10w40!"

I was a bit worried, for good reason too, ever since I've used mobil one

challengemaster · 19-07-2014 8:52pm

toastedpickles wrote: »

Here ye go, I know you'l jump to the "oh its because its a saab line" I bought the car off a guy who swore by using castrol when i got it i took it home and took it off the road, dropped the sump and here's what came out, pickup strainer was blocked to the last

Anyways, it happens due to using the wrong oil and a bad breather system or so i've been lead to believe, ever since I've been using mobil one and checking for sludge where i can, and theres not a spec of it around anyways, that's my side of the argument take what ye want from it

Was he the first and only owner?

Just because one owner keeps the car right, doesn't mean they all did. That was probably the first time in that cars life the sump was off. Hence it's pretty unfair to judge Mobil1 vs Castrol based on what you've observed since. If you used Mobil 1 for the next... 15? years, then checked the sump again and posted a comparison, you'd have an idea of how good Mobil1 was but not castrol, because you can't guarantee that it's the only oil ever used until you bought it.

toastedpickles · 19-07-2014 8:55pm

challengemaster wrote: »

Was he the first and only owner?

Just because one owner keeps the car right, doesn't mean they all did. That was probably the first time in that cars life the sump was off. Hence it's pretty unfair to judge Mobil1 vs Castrol based on what you've observed since. If you used Mobil 1 for the next... 15? years, then checked the sump again and posted a comparison, you'd have an idea of how good Mobil1 was but not castrol, because you can't guarantee that it's the only oil ever used until you bought it.

Second actually

I'll get back to you on which is better in the next year or so, I'm dropping it again in another 50K just to see anyways, I'm just posting what my experience of it has been, it's going to differ from person to person like

toyotaavensis · 19-07-2014 8:57pm

toastedpickles wrote: »

I asked the guy when i was buying it what he put in during his time owning the car and proud as punch he goes "4.5 litres of castrols finest magnatec 10w40!"

I was a bit worried, for good reason too, ever since I've used mobil one

Castrol say 0w30 edge oil so 10w40 magnatec wont help an engine that is known for sludge. I would like to see how the right castrol oil gets on but I wouldnt experiment with my own car.

challengemaster wrote: »

Was he the first and only owner?

Just because one owner keeps the car right, doesn't mean they all did. That was probably the first time in that cars life the sump was off. Hence it's pretty unfair to judge Mobil1 vs Castrol based on what you've observed since. If you used Mobil 1 for the next... 15? years, then checked the sump again and posted a comparison, you'd have an idea of how good Mobil1 was but not castrol, because you can't guarantee that it's the only oil ever used until you bought it.

There are a lot of threads on this on SAAB owners club sites and the consensus seems to be use Mobil 1. Given the experience people have with Mobil 1 with the SAAB engines of that vintage I think you have to go along with it just to be safe.

Marcusm · 20-07-2014 5:56pm

V.W.L 11 wrote: »

https://www.google.ie/search?q=north+sea+oil&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=mTjIU4vCA4PX7AbEzIDoAQ&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ&biw=1366&bih=673#q=north+sea+lubricants&tbm=isch&facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=F8SfCjb3FHKrSM%253A%3BnscraEAceaWNFM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.demonoils.co.uk%252Fmedia%252Fcatalog%252Fproduct%252Fcache%252F1%252Fimage%252F9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95%252F7%252F2%252F7226.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.demonoils.co.uk%252Findex.php%252Fnorth-sea-lubricants%252Fnorth-sea-lubricants-low-ash-le-5w40-5l.html%3B503%3B503

That is the oil,very thin stuff compared to Castrol though

The irony of a fully synthetic oil being called North Sea Oil.

V.W.L 11 · 20-07-2014 6:04pm

Marcusm wrote: »

The irony of a fully synthetic oil being called North Sea Oil.

have you used it?apparently it was semi synthetic I got,but since I put Castrol in she is good to go again thank god

JohnBoy26 · 22-07-2014 3:44pm

Castrol is a very overrated oil imo, nothing special about it at all imo. Those old accents aren't immune from oil burning issues, its actually common enough on those early examples.

V.W.L 11 · 22-07-2014 3:57pm

JohnBoy26 wrote: »

Castrol is a very overrated oil imo, nothing special about it at all imo. Those old accents aren't immune from oil burning issues, its actually common enough on those early examples.

it failed the NCT on emissions,high idle,it was burning oil,the valve seals were gone in it I think,i got rid of it today,so its all 1.4 VW engine motors and Hyundai accents are to be avoided for future

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