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Video of man caught trying to meet 15 year old for sex

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  • #102
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    "We are journalists".

    Yep, and I am an astronaut.


  • #103
    Lingua Franca
    Registered Users Posts: 2,800 ✭✭✭Lingua Franca


    Morag wrote: »
    But most of those countries have 'sweetheart' clauses that is the age of consent may be 14 if they are are with someone thier age or 2/3 years older but an adult having sex with a 14 year old can still be in trouble legally.

    I wish more people knew this rather than tried to justify anything with "well, the age of consent in Xland is 12" or whatever.


  • #104
    wexfordman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 490 ✭✭wexfordman


    Brutal Deluxe wrote: »
    I think it's still 12 in the Vatican City and some parts of North/South America, no? And I think there's only a handful of countries where it's 13.

    I don't think a little thing like legal age would determined a few priests!


  • #105
    anhedonia
    Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭anhedonia


    fatknacker wrote: »
    How come internet paedos are often middle aged men? Is there some sort of sick switch that goes off once they're over the hill?

    they are all middle aged men in trenchcoats with a hitler-esque tash.


  • #106
    Downlinz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    tan11ie wrote: »
    Who cares? They are the scourge of the Earth.

    Disgraceful attitude, if they've never acted on their uncontrollable desires then they've done nothing wrong.


  • #107
    tan11ie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,056 ✭✭✭tan11ie


    Downlinz wrote: »
    Disgraceful attitude, if they've never acted on their uncontrollable desires then they've done nothing wrong.

    By not acting on it, you mean by not doing anything physically to a child?

    So do you believe they just go around undressing children with their eyes? Hang around schools?What do you think they do to curb their urge? nothing?

    I suppose none of them indulge in watching child pornography......Nah of course not.


  • #108
    Tombi!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    tan11ie wrote: »
    By not acting on it, you mean by not doing anything physically to a child?

    So do you believe they just go around undressing children with their eyes? Hang around schools?What do you think they do to curb their urge? nothing?

    I suppose none of them indulge in watching child pornography......Nah of course not.

    Question: let's saw I'm a pedophile and I decided to come forward and seek help before I hurt a child.

    How many people do you think would like to see me dead or at least locked up for life without consideration for my life at all?


  • #109
    dickwod1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭dickwod1


    msg11 wrote: »
    In Irish law, anyone under the age of 17 is a child.
    Except when you turn 16 you have to pay adult fares on Dublin Bus.


  • #110
    softy2012
    Closed Accounts Posts: 90 ✭✭softy2012


    Whats the story with the lad making the video ??

    It is awfull what this old bloke is doing, but who the hell is this guy ?

    he works for the sun or what ??

    he even gets in that he has an iPhone 5 ! ??


  • #111
    Tombi!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    softy2012 wrote: »
    Whats the story with the lad making the video ??

    It is awfull what this old bloke is doing, but who the hell is this guy ?

    he works for the sun or what ??

    he even gets in that he has an iPhone 5 ! ??

    Well, he has another video, about a man meeting (Well what the man thought) was a 14 year old girl.
    I didn't watch it.

    He made it quite clear that he does this to video them. And I reckon it's just to get some time on YouTube. The fact that he's at least 40 (as said in the video) and thinks trying to be the next Chris Hansen, makes him look like feckin' jackass TBH.


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  • #112
    BorneTobyWilde
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,434 ✭✭✭✭BorneTobyWilde


    Celine Dion met her now husband when she was 12
    He was 38
    They became epic lovers
    And still are to this day,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxoj-tDDIU


  • #113
    OnTheCouch
    Registered Users Posts: 526 ✭✭✭OnTheCouch


    BorneTobyWilde wrote: »
    Celine Dion met her now husband when she was 12
    He was 38
    They became epic lovers
    And still are to this day,

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDxoj-tDDIU

    While this was certainly an unconventional, and for many, slightly creepy method of forming a relationship, the fact remains that Celine Dion was well over the age of consent (and more importantly an adult) when they started going out. Your post gives the erroneous impression to those who do not know the full story that they started a relationship not long after they first met, which is not the case.

    It is also unfair to compare the situation to the men in these videos, who are actively looking to meet up with underage girls for sexual relations, already knowing the girls' age.


  • #114
    Mince Pie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭Mince Pie


    Not comfortable with the video being uploaded to youtube rather than given to the police. Just wondering have they thought of the repercussions on that mans children and grandchildren. Nice to see Grandpa on the internet with no actual charges brought against him.


  • #115
    Lone Stone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,405 ✭✭✭Lone Stone


    Its a bit dogy, i mean the guy this 40 year old guy is luring old men into park's under the guise that he is a young girl, reverse pedophile alert !


  • #116
    Tombi!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,689 ✭✭✭Tombi!


    Lone Stone wrote: »
    Its a bit dogy, i mean the guy this 40 year old guy is luring old men into park's under the guise that he is a young girl, reverse pedophile alert !

    First it was the pedophiles, harassing the young kids, then it was the adults protecting the kids, so the pedophiles used lies to trick the kids and now we have the adults lying to the pedophiles.

    I sense a thriller movie coming out soon.


  • #117
    Just Like Heaven
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,132 ✭✭✭Just Like Heaven


    Such a pair of weirdos filming the videos.


  • #118
    johnwest288
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 665 ✭✭✭johnwest288


    Its a money making venture, If you can get a succesful youtube channel going the more views you get afaik Youtube will actually pay you :cool:
    Surprised no-one else has started this before over here.
    I might do the Irish Version Myself :cool:


  • #119
    harney
    Registered Users Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭harney


    johnwest288 wrote: »
    Its a money making venture, If you can get a succesful youtube channel going the more views you get afaik Youtube will actually pay you :cool:
    Surprised no-one else has started this before over here.
    I might do the Irish Version Myself :cool:

    Be honest, for you it's more about pretending to be an underage girl offering herself up for sex than it is about making money from youtube :eek:

    You sick b@stard!


  • #120
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    tan11ie wrote: »
    By not acting on it, you mean by not doing anything physically to a child?

    So do you believe they just go around undressing children with their eyes? Hang around schools?What do you think they do to curb their urge? nothing?

    I suppose none of them indulge in watching child pornography......Nah of course not.

    So you'd like to jail people for thought crimes? You have an argument with someone and think it'd be great to hit them. You don't hit them, because that would be wrong, but you do think it. Are you now guilty of assault?

    And child pornography is wrong. Unless you're aware of some that was made without harming kids. But they are two separate things.

    It's like comparing rape to pornography.


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  • #121
    Grayson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    OnTheCouch wrote: »
    While this was certainly an unconventional, and for many, slightly creepy method of forming a relationship, the fact remains that Celine Dion was well over the age of consent (and more importantly an adult) when they started going out. Your post gives the erroneous impression to those who do not know the full story that they started a relationship not long after they first met, which is not the case.

    It is also unfair to compare the situation to the men in these videos, who are actively looking to meet up with underage girls for sexual relations, already knowing the girls' age.

    A few hundred years ago, it wouldn't have been considered that bad. But here's the thing, girls then were prepared for it. They would have been far more grown up than now. From birth, everyone knew that a girl was going to get married young, so their parents prepared them for that day.

    Nowadays, people get married far later. We extend childhood. The fact is that an 18 year old today is probably as mature as a 13 year old back then. We extend childhood as long as possible (which isn't always a bad thing).

    I'm sure out there, there are a few 15 year olds who are capable of being in an adult relationship. But lets face it, they're pretty rare and that's why the law is the way it is. It caters for the norm rather than the exception. The other option is to make everyone sit a maturity test before they are allowed have sex.


  • #122
    woodoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,219 ✭✭✭woodoo


    m.j.w wrote: »
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aiCpyGDCY

    Just watched this video, have no sympathy for the men getting caught but the two lads doing this seem to be arseholes!
    !

    Yeah those guys seem like dickheads. Watch the 'to catch a predator' with Chris Hanson they are good shows, the reaction of some of the men caught is hilarious. The rabbi is a good one and the man caught naked in the kitchen is funny too.

    The good thing about the shows is there are no underage people involved, the crime is that they think they are dealing with young people. I'd like to see them done over here.


  • #123
    opti0nal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭opti0nal


    Grayson wrote: »
    It's like comparing rape to pornography.
    Pornography is a form of rape or sexual violence. Those watching it have no way of knowing if the people depicted consented for their pictures to be taken or distributed. They have no way of knowing if the participants were coreced in any way.


  • #124
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    opti0nal wrote: »
    Pornography is a form of rape or sexual violence. Those watching it have no way of knowing if the people depicted consented for their pictures to be taken or distributed. They have no way of knowing if the participants were coreced in any way.

    What a very stupid thing to say.

    When you were typing it, did a little voice inside you not say "STOP, you'll embarrass us both"?


  • #125
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    opti0nal wrote: »
    Pornography is a form of rape or sexual violence. Those watching it have no way of knowing if the people depicted consented for their pictures to be taken or distributed. They have no way of knowing if the participants were coreced in any way.


    Coerced with money, most likely.
    Ya know...... Like a professional model is coerced with money.


  • #126
    opti0nal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 892 ✭✭✭opti0nal


    mikom wrote: »
    Coerced with money, most likely.
    Or drugs or violence (off-camera). Or the person depicted did not give permission for the material to be viewed or distributed publicly.


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  • #127
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    opti0nal wrote: »
    Or drugs or violence (off-camera). Or the person depicted did not give permission for the material to be viewed or distributed publicly.

    You make this sound like KPMG.


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