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M11 Road Works

  • 02-03-2015 2:38pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭


    Does anyone know when the work on the M11 for the jack white bypass will be done?

    How long will it take then from say the start of the m50 to Gorey?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    ezra_ wrote: »
    Does anyone know when the work on the M11 for the jack white bypass will be done?

    How long will it take then from say the start of the m50 to Gorey?

    Spoke to a lad working on it and they've been told they have to be finished by August, as it is to open then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,363 ✭✭✭ezra_


    Spoke to a lad working on it and they've been told they have to be finished by August, as it is to open then

    THanks.

    Will be great when it is done!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 702 ✭✭✭wreckless




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭bido


    Anyone know who to approach about jobs in the new services


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,395 ✭✭✭sjb25


    bido wrote: »
    Anyone know who to approach about jobs in the new services

    I'd say they will be advertised soon looks almost done it would be whoever is running it I suppose topaz or apple green maybe?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    bido wrote: »
    Anyone know who to approach about jobs in the new services
    applegreen have the contracts for motorway services so contact them


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    so after putting up with years of tailbacks and putting up with the stress of the construction the road is finally finished and set to open to the public from next monday woohoo


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭mackeire


    so after putting up with years of tailbacks and putting up with the stress of the construction the road is finally finished and set to open to the public from next monday woohoo
    Starting a new job in bray next week so just in time :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    An hour and twenty minutes from River chapel to the Beehive this morning, thank fcuk that's all over.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    An hour and twenty minutes from River chapel to the Beehive this morning, thank fcuk that's all over.
    jaysus i could get to wicklow in 2hrs from waterford and i drive a truck restricted to 89kph and thats when the road works were happening, how fast rya driving


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    You wouldn't have done it on Monday at 8am. Jam started just after the first Arklow exit off the M11 and it was stop start the whole way to the Beehive, average speed couldn't have been more than 10mph. I kept expecting to come across a reason for it such as a stop/go system but there was nothing, it was down to sheer volume and foul weather.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭mackeire


    Took just over 20 mins from loughlinstown to arklow (junction 20) in Tuesday.
    Took about 3or 4 minutes from beehive to jack whites (you can see both from the motor way)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    mackeire wrote: »
    Took just over 20 mins from loughlinstown to arklow (junction 20) in Tuesday.
    Took about 3or 4 minutes from beehive to jack whites (you can see both from the motor way)

    Nope, no you didn't


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭mackeire


    Nope, no you didn't
    Yeah I lied. We were actually in a helicopter!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    mackeire wrote: »
    Yeah I lied. We were actually in a helicopter!

    Well the new section between Jack Whites and the Beehive is 16km. Doing it in 4 minutes would have you doing an average speed of 240kph. Loughlinstown to the Arklow turn is approx 50km, which has you doing an average speed of 150kph


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    Well the new section between Jack Whites and the Beehive is 16km.
    Jack White and Beehive is 9km or 5.5 miles!
    https://www.google.ie/maps/dir/52.8826475,-6.0991933/N11,+Co.+Wicklow/@52.8561624,-6.1437883,12z/data=!4m9!4m8!1m0!1m5!1m1!1s0x4867b9c07542c4fd:0x9eb9beea91dae9a7!2m2!1d-6.0959721!2d52.9528727!3e0?hl=en

    There was more to the scheme than between those two points


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    You wouldn't have done it on Monday at 8am. Jam started just after the first Arklow exit off the M11 and it was stop start the whole way to the Beehive, average speed couldn't have been more than 10mph. I kept expecting to come across a reason for it such as a stop/go system but there was nothing, it was down to sheer volume and foul weather.
    that would explain it so, i go up that direction and pass junction 23 at 6am


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Do you have drops en route, cookie? As a former trucker myself, I would have thought Waterford/Dublin via the N11 was unnecessary hardship.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    Do you have drops en route, cookie? As a former trucker myself, I would have thought Waterford/Dublin via the N11 was unnecessary hardship.
    ah i only go up as far as wicklow, yeah i work for kerry foods direct sales to shops


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    An hour from Leopardstown to Enniscorthy this evening,that would have been impossible on the old road.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    Are plans in existence to further extend the road southwards?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭RadioRetro


    Yes, all the way to Rosslare Harbour, bypassing Enniscorthy and Oylegate. But they're on the long finger.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    New Ross by pass will start before Enniscorthy by pass apparently


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,620 ✭✭✭Roen


    RadioRetro wrote: »
    Yes, all the way to Rosslare Harbour, bypassing Enniscorthy and Oylegate. But they're on the long finger.
    vicwatson wrote: »
    New Ross by pass will start before Enniscorthy by pass apparently

    Thanks lads, Ross is crying out for a bypass alright. Always was.
    My biggest moan is the unholy trinity of Enniscorthy, Camolin and Ferns before getting back on decent road again.
    Here's to the hopefully not too distant future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    Enniscorthy will start early in the New Year. BAM are the preferred tenderer and the usual negotiations are going on prior to signing of the contracts.
    http://www.wexfordpeople.ie/news/start-date-on-new-ross-and-enniscorthy-bypasses-delayed-31289478.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    Roen wrote: »
    Are plans in existence to further extend the road southwards?
    yes land was purchased and all, the plan is also to build second bridge down river from new ross and link up with lower end of motorway before wexford town apparently


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 199 ✭✭The Gride


    Is there another toll bridge on this road ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    The Gride wrote: »
    Is there another toll bridge on this road ?

    No toll.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,280 ✭✭✭mackeire


    Well the new section between Jack Whites and the Beehive is 16km. Doing it in 4 minutes would have you doing an average speed of 240kph. Loughlinstown to the Arklow turn is approx 50km, which has you doing an average speed of 150kph
    Again today, beehive to jack whites in 4 minutes. Going at the speed limit!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Just in passing I noticed hand painted signs for Jack Whites and the Tap. Surely these are illegal and the actual act of placing them there was illegal. Pay for your signage like everyone else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    mackeire wrote: »
    Again today, beehive to jack whites in 4 minutes. Going at the speed limit!

    I did it myself going up on Tuesday, back yesterday. Took me JUST under 5 minutes, sticking strictly to the limit, as other cars flew past me :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    Just in passing I noticed hand painted signs for Jack Whites and the Tap. Surely these are illegal and the actual act of placing them there was illegal. Pay for your signage like everyone else.
    surprised BAM hasn't taken them down yet!!! but yeah surely those landmarks such as jack whites and beehive or lil doyles that would have usually had been used by AA roadwatch in traffic reports should get there name on signs by the NRA. only matter of time before they close the doors since passing trade has moved


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,923 ✭✭✭To Elland Back


    surprised BAM hasn't taken them down yet!!! but yeah surely those landmarks such as jack whites and beehive or lil doyles that would have usually had been used by AA roadwatch in traffic reports should get there name on signs by the NRA. only matter of time before they close the doors since passing trade has moved

    Well Lil Doyles has been closed for some time now, almost from when work started on the flyover beside it. The cafe at The Tap was doing great business, hopefully it will still be a destination venue for its customers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    craggy2 wrote:
    picked this up in Naas today €11.25, one left on the shelf


    What's the purpose of the lay-bys on this stretch of road? The signs say "Authorised vehicles only", so I presume they're for maintenance vehicles because there are separate ramps for Garda cars. I've already seen cars parked in them and, being Ireland, it's only a matter of time before they become car parks.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    What's the purpose of the lay-bys on this stretch of road? The signs say "Authorised vehicles only", so I presume they're for maintenance vehicles because there are separate ramps for Garda cars. I've already seen cars parked in them and, being Ireland, it's only a matter of time before they become car parks.
    they could be used by rsa and gardai to pull in hauliers for tachograph and vehicle checks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    That's a possibility all right cookie though with the amount spent on the road you'd think they'd have sprung for a weighbridge as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    I think there is a gate on to private land at one of these lay-bys - it possible could enable access to Coillte lands if necessary. I'd have to look more closely next time I'm down


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    jd wrote: »
    I think there is a gate on to private land at one of these lay-bys - it possible could enable access to Coillte lands if necessary. I'd have to look more closely next time I'm down

    Passed both ways yesterday, didn't notice a gate at either lay-by although strangely enough there are gates at other locations, I can't remember ever seeing that on a motorway before. I did notice the gates when the road was being built and they were used by construction traffic, I thought they would have been blocked off on completion, strikes me as being a bit dangerous.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Poochie05


    There is a gate just before the lay-by going southbound, it leads from the old road. I presume this is for access for the 'authorised vehicles' that can only use these lay-bys.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Poochie05 wrote: »
    There is a gate just before the lay-by going southbound, it leads from the old road. I presume this is for access for the 'authorised vehicles' that can only use these lay-bys.

    Yes, that's one of the gates I mentioned. It doesn't make any sense to me that any vehicle bigger than a toy car would come out at right angles onto a motorway with traffic passing at 120kph.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,709 ✭✭✭jd


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    Yes, that's one of the gates I mentioned. It doesn't make any sense to me that any vehicle bigger than a toy car would come out at right angles onto a motorway with traffic passing at 120kph.
    Is it on to Coillte land? Maybe it is for emergency access in case of fire etc?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    jd wrote: »
    Is it on to Coillte land? Maybe it is for emergency access in case of fire etc?

    No, it's on to the old N11 south of Jack White's, I think the Coillte land is near the Beehive. There are several gates, all of which I think access the old road, as far as I remember there is one close to Lil Doyle's, close to the bridge that was used by construction traffic.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    i,d say these are for gardai,maintenance vehicles etc to gain acces as i have seen a garda car parked at the one near barndarraig checking speed. they could also be used if say there was an accident on the road to allow traffic use old road because they are at several locations on the road


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    i,d say these are for gardai,maintenance vehicles etc to gain acces as i have seen a garda car parked at the one near barndarraig checking speed. they could also be used if say there was an accident on the road to allow traffic use old road because they are at several locations on the road

    I can't see why Gardaí would check for speed from off the motorway when there are purpose built ramps on the motorway but then a lot of things Gardaí do and don't do confuse me. I thought Gardaí had to actually stop you to give you a speeding ticket, has this changed because by the time they'd get the gate open to follow, the speeder would be in Donegal. I must take a trip on the old section of road and see if the gates are actually locked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,260 ✭✭✭Poochie05


    I think I saw someone mention in the Roads Forum that these areas are for other types of checks, such as customs and excise etc. The guards doing speed checks there recently is probably just a show of force to remind road users not to get carried away on the lovely quiet and smooth surface.


  • Registered Users Posts: 425 ✭✭cookie.monster


    Marhay70 wrote: »
    I can't see why Gardaí would check for speed from off the motorway when there are purpose built ramps on the motorway but then a lot of things Gardaí do and don't do confuse me. I thought Gardaí had to actually stop you to give you a speeding ticket, has this changed because by the time they'd get the gate open to follow, the speeder would be in Donegal. I must take a trip on the old section of road and see if the gates are actually locked.
    yeah shur they can stand on an over pass with speed gun that has anpr built in kinda like gatso vans but its usually on a tripod, have seen them few times in cork when you go past mahon point. i think the gates are actually locked must take quick gander meself, but it they were open the people of barndarriag wouldn't need to head to jack whites to join the motorway lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    yeah shur they can stand on an over pass with speed gun that has anpr built in kinda like gatso vans but its usually on a tripod, have seen them few times in cork when you go past mahon point. i think the gates are actually locked must take quick gander meself, but it they were open the people of barndarriag wouldn't need to head to jack whites to join the motorway lol

    Was out by Arklow Rugby club yesterday and the gate on that stretch does indeed have a padlock and chain on it so I'd imagine all are the same. I think if it was intended as an access to the motorway the access would have been paved rather than just use hardcore, it'll just have to remain a mystery for the moment. I still think it's a dangerous way to leave it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Poochie05 wrote: »
    I think I saw someone mention in the Roads Forum that these areas are for other types of checks, such as customs and excise etc. The guards doing speed checks there recently is probably just a show of force to remind road users not to get carried away on the lovely quiet and smooth surface.

    Yeah, that idea was put forward by cookie monster a while back and it does seem logical. I still can't see why they would do that and not include a weighbridge though, doesn't make economic sense. The utilities are there to service it, all that would be required is a small hut and the scales, chickenfeed in the scheme of things and overweight trucks have long been a problem on our roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 384 ✭✭bido


    Any one know when the new services is opening and who is going to be running it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,916 ✭✭✭Marhay70


    Last I heard was November, Applegreen have the contract.


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