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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    Hermy wrote: »
    Mothers name is Annie Pelly.
    Managed to find his other siblings but some of the transcriptions are poor...

    no success for me either, under and Rathdown and Murphy/Pelly and variations, just the siblings and the only 3rd Qtr (27th Sept) birth in Rathdown listing I can find with Pelly as mother's maiden name is surname Thompson, and female. At least in this case there's a good match on FamilySearch so you can order a cert to see the other details.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,318 ✭✭✭✭Menas


    I am absolutely loving this ! So much extra data to play with. Have managed to fill in a few gaps in my tree and even found a new Grand aunt that I never new I had. (she died in infancy in 1907 so never hit our radars)


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭dido2


    I've some that I haven't been able to find too, but even with Family search and Ancestry i've always used both anyway so this is just another one in the mix!!


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    From Irish Genealogy News
    In recent years, other 'enhancements' have been made to the indexes used by GRO staff. Whereas older marriages (1845 to the turn of the 20th century) are still recorded with each partner to the marriage entered separately, necessitating the need to cross-check the reference details to find a match, GRO staff started indexing the bride and groom as a couple. For example, the marriage of John Doyle and Catherine Faul on 01 October 1904 is found whether you search for his name or her name – no need to cross-check. These 'joint' entries have been indexed back to 1912; they're a bit hit and miss from 1903 to 1911.

    Despite this working for most cases, in one instance when I search for a marriage of a Dolan with second party surname Hoade I get nothing found. Yet when I do it the other way around with Dolan as the second party I get the marriage I'm looking for.
    So for those struggling to find records, as ever be creative with the search tools!

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    It doesn't seem necessary to make the results 'live' as all the information is there beside it. When you click the 'live' result you get exactly the same information.

    I also had a family of 5 children in my tree but only found three of them, I discovered that the mother's birth surname had been transcribed with a letter 'A' for the three children which is correct, but for the other two I found her name had been transcribed with a letter 'O' instead of the 'A'.

    Another family I was searching for I could only get two results when I knew there were a whole load more. As the surname of the mother started with Mc, I tried dropping the Mc, and I then got tons of results including the ones I was looking for. It might also work for names beginning with O'


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    When searching for McGing or similar also try searching for Mc Ging with a space.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Really needs a fuzzer for O' (probably best to allow that as an option) and Mc/Mac (permanent, I'd suspect) and maybe a soundex setup for searches. As well as helping with transcription issues it can help with badly handed down family history - I once managed to find someone after being told they'd married a "Beardsley" and ScotlandsPeople soundex found the actually correct "Mawdsley" for her wedding and death cert.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    And don't bother spelling Mairéad with a fada.

    I hate to be the moaning Michael but this really is pathetic.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    This can't have been done locally surely? Was it outsourced again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,204 ✭✭✭jos28


    Very productive couple of days. Lots of dates in my tree changed from circa to actual dates ! Still quite a few of mine that I can't find but I'll keep looking. Can we use the details online to order certificates ? I've found a couple that I need to verify.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    haven't tried it out myself yet - apparently you can use the Group Registration ID instead of the usual index references to order certs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,204 ✭✭✭jos28


    I'll give it a go and let you know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    I heard back from someone who the that used the Group IDs for certs from Werburgh street no problem, so imagine orders by post/fax should be OK also


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    revised order form for certs allowing for either Group Reg. ID or the volume and page references here (John Grenham's website)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,070 ✭✭✭OU812


    Is there a way of correcting the spelling of a name on the Irish Genealogy site ? Did a search & the surname is spelt with an O instead of an A under civil records


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    shanew wrote: »
    I heard back from someone who the that used the Group IDs for certs from Werburgh street no problem, so imagine orders by post/fax should be OK also

    Yeah. I just received my first cert via email just using the group ID.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 566 ✭✭✭hjr


    Ponster wrote: »
    Yeah. I just received my first cert via email just using the group ID.

    Did it take long from when you requested it, to when you received it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    I've been in. The Group ID is accepted no problem! :) Got a few records which are guiding me back in time again which is great, but a few others were not relevant to me, at least not right now. I always hope at some stage the records that don't relate to me, might be knitted in with future information.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Jellybaby1 wrote: »
    I've been in. The Group ID is accepted no problem! :) Got a few records which are guiding me back in time again which is great, but a few others were not relevant to me, at least not right now. I always hope at some stage the records that don't relate to me, might be knitted in with future information.

    Always worth putting them up here just in case someone has use for them: http://www.certificate-exchange.co.uk/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    I had known about that service but forgotten it. I will look into that. A little help goes a long way.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    MYOB wrote: »
    Always worth putting them up here just in case someone has use for them: http://www.certificate-exchange.co.uk/

    Perhaps there isn't the traffic to warrant it but does anyone think we should have a thread here for unwanted certs and stuff?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭googled eyes


    Hermy wrote: »
    Perhaps there isn't the traffic to warrant it but does anyone think we should have a thread here for unwanted certs and stuff?

    I think that could be a great idea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    Hermy wrote: »
    Perhaps there isn't the traffic to warrant it but does anyone think we should have a thread here for unwanted certs and stuff?

    I can't see the harm - I have unwanted certs. And won't the thread show up on a search engine now? Posting each one with an image and short transcription should do the trick.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Is the feedback tab not working either? Keeps sending me back to the 'fill out form' page without clarifying if it's a bloody captcha problem or something else :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    Hermy wrote: »
    Perhaps there isn't the traffic to warrant it but does anyone think we should have a thread here for unwanted certs and stuff?

    Great idea, but my family don't want any of our info online so its going to be difficult for me and also for the UK site now I think of it. There could be a 'records wanted' thread so I could always pm anyone rather than publicly embarrass my family! :o


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Jellybaby1 wrote: »
    Great idea, but my family don't want any of our info online so its going to be difficult for me and also for the UK site now I think of it. There could be a 'records wanted' thread so I could always pm anyone rather than publicly embarrass my family! :o

    Well you might not be embarrassing your family if, lets say, your posting a cert or other record which was ordered in error and doesn't relate directly to your own kin. And I like the idea of a wanted/ offered type thread.

    Anyone like to suggest a thread title?

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 6,672 Mod ✭✭✭✭pinkypinky


    I think "certs ordered in error".

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,089 ✭✭✭✭P. Breathnach


    I am collaborating with a distant cousin that I have yet to meet in person on one branch of my family history (I count 3rd cousin once removed as distant). We share copies of relevant and irrelevant certs as we sift through possibilities. I don't think such sharing is in any way improper.

    The chances of making contact with people who have an interest in my small stock of irrelevant certs seem to me to be very small - so small that it does not seem to me to be worth setting up a clearing house.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    Hermy wrote: »
    Well you might not be embarrassing your family if, lets say, your posting a cert or other record which was ordered in error and doesn't relate directly to your own kin. And I like the idea of a wanted/ offered type thread.

    Anyone like to suggest a thread title?

    I get what you are saying, but however wrong the certs are, they would still have our surnames on them of course.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,629 ✭✭✭googled eyes


    What if there were two threads.

    1. For people who just want to share the certs they have.

    2. For people who wish to ask about certs.

    It may seem more complicated but it might keep everyone happy to use the idea


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Well I've made an attempt at the thread here. If anyone has any suggestions or a better way of doing it I can delete the thread and try again.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    Been thinking over the 'certs wanted' part and wondered if that could become rather long as there could be hundreds of posts looking for certs. What do ye say?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 11,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hermy


    Jellybaby1 wrote: »
    Been thinking over the 'certs wanted' part and wondered if that could become rather long as there could be hundreds of posts looking for certs. What do ye say?

    Agreed. Most threads are seeking a record of some sort so maybe that's already covered by the general posts and threads.

    Genealogy Forum Mod



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Waitsian


    I notice the death cert index on Irishgenealogy.ie has entries with the age of the deceased - that's handy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    Mother's birth surname is good on baptisms, however I am sadly looking for the dad on one of mine so even when the mum looks right I have had to spend many shillings to find the wrong dads.:(


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭dido2


    Jellybaby

    Do you have any idea of the dads name?? Surname even??


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    No, but I am just guessing it is the family name but its really guesswork. I was hoping something would add up, but so far, nuthin'!


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭dido2


    I take it you have a first name and a mothers name so?? Do you have a date of birth?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    No date of birth, no mother's name, total guesswork on the dad's name. I have the child's name. Its a family mystery which none of my family knows the answer to.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭dido2


    Oh Jellybaby it's one of those mysteries!!!!! Any luck with a baptism??? Maybe if you post a seperate thread with the info you might get some more help too.... Unless you've already done that too!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,108 ✭✭✭Jellybaby1


    Naw, can't post family info unfortunately. I will get to the bottom of it.....eventually!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    Civil records down for me


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Same here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,777 ✭✭✭shanew


    server is up and running ok but URL gives a not found (404). Thought maybe the structure was tidied up, but the civil records option seems to missing from the homepage


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭dido2


    Gone for me too! Wonder why it's suddenly gone...


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,912 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ponster


    All I can spot is that the front page has been changed and the button to go to civil records removed. Doubt it'll be fixed this late on a Friday but lets hope so !


  • Registered Users Posts: 447 ✭✭dido2


    There is a message up now

    Civil Records Search temporarily unavailable
    Further update will be provided.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭CassieManson


    dido2 wrote: »
    Gone for me too! Wonder why it's suddenly gone...

    Hope its not down all weekend...funny how the tab has disappeared...hope its back soon.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,538 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I worry (but hope that its not accurate) that there's been complaints about it having precise dates to 2013.


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