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Keegan to walk (watch this space)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,211 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    Hopefully. I think when Kev was in those meetings, he was outnumbered, but the backash of the last few hours has told Ashley otherwise, and hopefully he'll tell Dennis to jog the fuck on now!

    Want to hear from Wor Kev though before I have a celebratory ****.

    lol thats very funny

    im glad he is staying, i like the guy and i like newc, i hope dennis wise is going, little thug:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    homah_7ft wrote: »
    Can someone post the full statement? When I click to see the next page of the article it doesn't work.
    Kevin Keegan - Official NUFC Statement

    NEWCASTLE United can confirm that meetings between members of the Board and manager Kevin Keegan were held both yesterday and today.

    Kevin has raised a number of issues and those have been discussed with him.

    The Club wants to keep progressing with its long-term strategy and would like to stress that Kevin is extremely important, both now and in the future.

    Newcastle United values the effort and commitment shown by Kevin since his return to St. James' Park and wants him to continue to play an instrumental role as manager of the Club.

    For the avoidance of doubt the Club has not sacked Kevin Keegan as manager.

    Doesn't say he's not gone tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,124 ✭✭✭homah_7ft


    Not anything ruling out that he has quit then.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Neil1984 posting of that pic has put me off my tea and I've already eaten.

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    It is true that we need to hear from Kev, but I am hoping this has turned the tide, and he now get's the backing he deserves. If Ashley has any sense, then surely he will turf Wise out.


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    mike65 wrote: »
    Neil1984 posting of that pic has put me off my tea and I've already eaten.

    Mike

    Sorry!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,801 ✭✭✭✭Gary ITR


    I hope this means he is staying, if for nothing else then just to embarass sky news. I was watching sky news this afternoon and all it was was 'Keegan sacked'


  • Registered Users Posts: 613 ✭✭✭smog


    This means he wasn't sacked.
    But he has walked, or is looking for a way to walk.
    The club statement is just the boys sitting back waiting for what Kev has obviously threatened. There is also supposed to be a clause in his contract fining him if he walks.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    smog wrote: »
    This means he wasn't sacked.
    But he has walked, or is looking for a way to walk.
    The club statement is just the boys sitting back waiting for what Kev has obviously threatened. There is also supposed to be a clause in his contract fining him if he walks.

    Yeah, the more time passes, and I have time to get my head around what has been a mind fcuk of a day, I think the statement released by the club was Ashley trying to cheap out on an compo deal.

    Reading over the stories coming out about Wise's antics, I want to swing for the %^*! I cannot understand why this little upstart is being given such a huge say in our club, and it baffles me that Mike Ashley can't see how he has now alienated the fans from the club to perhaps an unrepairable extent.

    I have a feeling tomorrow is going to be another bad day, but being a Newcastle United fan, I am clinging to the hope that something positive will come out of St. James.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,988 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    Since Ashley seems to love being a 'man of the people', something as simple as a mass chant of Keegans name, as well as 'Wise Out!' might actually have a bit of success.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Pop your head into the thread that I recently updated and you might find some very interesting reading.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,536 ✭✭✭Dolph Starbeam


    LMA are saying Keegan hasn't left either, i can't see why the club didn't just come out yesterday and say Keegan is still here, it would of saved the crowds of protestors a lot of time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,139 ✭✭✭Wreck


    Keegan (through the LMA) is saying he hasn't walked, the club are saying he wasn't sacked, but no one is saying he is the manager. Looks like this will end up in court tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46,292 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Apparently Keegan is considering going to court citing constructive dismissal. He said when he joined the club he knew they would be going for a director of football/european approach, so i don't see how that is going to fly...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,398 ✭✭✭MIN2511


    I honestly don't know who to believe at this stage... Is Keegan gone or not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Latest official statement from the club http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~1383562,00.html
    Newcastle United Football Club can confirm that discussions are ongoing between the Board and Kevin Keegan.

    Both the Club and Kevin would like to reiterate that Kevin remains as manager. He has not resigned nor has he been sacked, as has been confirmed in respective statements made by Kevin and Newcastle United Football Club.

    Further, Richard Beven from the LMA released this statement
    The League Managers Association has issued the following statement in respect of Kevin Keegan, manager of Newcastle United.

    Kevin Keegan has been in discussions today with the LMA chief executive Richard Bevan. Over the course of the next few days Kevin will be communicating with the club’s board to discuss a number of important issues.

    Richard Bevan said: “Newcastle United FC and its fans are massively important to Kevin and he has not resigned as manager of the club. The LMA will keep supporters, media and other stakeholders within the game fully informed of developments.”

    Beven also said in an interview with Sky Sports
    Kevin is very concerned about the football club and the fans, he is concerned he does the right thing, concerned about ironing out a number of issues with the club and he will be doing this over the coming days but he has not resigned from Newcastle
    He is in a difficult position, and he is going to be discussing some really important issues with the Newcastle board over the next few days
    I think the important thing is that the Newcastle board and Kevin will be having further discussions, ironing out a number of really key issues
    All we can say is that Kevin did not resign and over the next few days the issues will be debated between Kevin and the Newcastle board.
    All we can say is that Kevin did not resign and over the next few days the issues will be debated between Kevin and the Newcastle board.

    It is important from Kevin's perspective that he makes sure people know he did not resign.

    Beven also stressed that compenstion was not an issue between Kevin and the club.

    To be honest, all of the above leads me to believe that it is a showdown between Keegan and Wise. I think Kev wants to remain manager, but not under the present regime, where he has been undermined and backstabbed by Dennis Wise. I would imagine when it all first kicked off early yesterday morning, Kev made this point clear, but the board and owner made it clear Wise was staying so it was up to Kev whether he was sticking around. However, the reaction of the fans outside St. James and the number of emails and text the likes of SSN were reacieving, changed the balance of power, and Ashley quickly realised he would be Donald Ducked unless he could talk Kev into staying. The club is now meeting with KK, and I imagine, that they will be taking him aot more seriously now, knowing that if he leaves, they are up sh/t creek.

    I am praying and hopin that this farce ends with Kev staying, Dennis the backstabber being shown the door, and Mike Ashley handing over much more power to KK in terms f transfer dealings and contract renewals. If that was to happen, then this mess will have been worth it, and for once, the club will be shown to be held accountable to it's loyal supporters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    If the board chooses Wise over Keegan then they need they be removed!

    Wise is a yard dog who would have been in and out of jail several times by now had he not been a handy footballer.

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    mike65 wrote: »
    If the board chooses Wise over Keegan then they need they be removed!

    Wise is a yard dog who would have been in and out of jail several times by now had he not been a handy footballer.

    Mike

    I honestly think that where we are now, that there is only room for one of them at the club, and the fans have made it loud and clear which one has to stay and which one has to go.

    If Ashley makes the wrong choice, then god help him, as I promise you that the scenes around St James yesterday would be repeated ten-fold. From a financial point of view as well, Ashley would be mad to let Keegan leave, as he is the only real thing that is keeping the numbers coming in at St. James. There were 5000 empty seats on opening day (the lowest turnout in more than 10 years) because of the rumblings of how the club was being run. If KK was to leave, I honestly believe that number would be closer to 30,000 for the next home game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,604 ✭✭✭herbieflowers


    funny that Ashley had KK 1 on the back of his Toon shirt the other day


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Well back in the early 80s they had a home gate of what 15,000-20,000? They couldn't sustain that sort of box-office now.

    Mike


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,213 ✭✭✭✭therecklessone


    funny that Ashley had KK 1 on the back of his Toon shirt the other day

    Read my comment about shiny things yesterday herb.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    Im so happy with the protests that happened yesterday outside St James Park. I think it shows to Ashley and Co. what we really want. I hope Ashley has finally realised this is more than just a business, this one of the biggest football clubs in the world which means so much to so many people.
    Hopefully now he can realise his wrong doings and beg Kev to stay!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    mike65 wrote: »
    Well back in the early 80s they had a home gate of what 15,000-20,000? They couldn't sustain that sort of box-office now.

    Mike

    They would be up the sh/tter with those sort of numbers.

    As well as the 5000 missing on opening day, up to 40 corporate box's weren't renewed this year.

    But like I said, this will pale in comparison to the numbers drop off if Ashley is not very very careful over his next move. The fan forum I use is already talking about mass protests at the Carling Cup game with Spuds. The way St. James is situated in the city, if there was a sitout, it would be next to impossible for any traffic to get near the stadium, including away fans. That game is on Sky, and I can only imagine the headlines if that game was played in front of a crowd of under 10,000. with the cameras also showing al those parked outside. Newcastle doesn't really get many daytrippers (bar myself obviously :)) so I could see this working.

    The mood right now around the city and the forums is of utter disgust, and that these actions have topped any of Fat Freddy's stunts in the past by a long long way. We have finally been pushed too far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    We're in a horrible mess at the moment and we need to get it sorted as soon as possible.

    It's hard to know who buys the players for Newcastle these days. That's why I think he wants to leave. You can't expect Keegan to be just given these players without possibly knowing who they are and expect them to be trained.

    Farce.

    Get Ashley out now. He might think he's one of the fans but he has no clue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    Interesting article from the Journal , it states that it was Keegan and managing director Kevin Llambias who were clashing and that Ashley had to step in and try to sort things out.

    THERE was a ceasefire at Newcastle United last night after a tense day of negotiations halted Kevin Keegan’s dramatic exit following a bitter row with managing director Derek Llambias.

    The relationship between Llambias and Keegan has deteriorated badly during the club’s less-than-satisfactory summer transfer business and erupted on deadline day when the manager expressed his anger at the failure to sign the number of players he had requested.

    That drew an indignant response from former casino manager Llambias and it initially looked as though the dispute would lead to Keegan’s premature departure until owner Mike Ashley intervened yesterday morning in a bid to restore harmony among the key players at St James’s Park.

    Nevertheless, although Ashley has assured the man he appointed just eight months ago that he does not want to sack him – something confirmed in an official club statement last night – it remains uncertain whether Keegan will stay after suggesting his position has become untenable as a result of boardroom interference in transfer policy.




    The statement said: “Newcastle United can confirm that meetings between members of the board and manager Kevin Keegan were held both yesterday and today. Kevin has raised a number of issues and those have been discussed with him.

    “The club wants to keep progressing with its long-term strategy and would like to stress that Kevin is extremely important, both now and in the future.

    “Newcastle United values the effort and commitment shown by Kevin since his return to St James’ Park and wants him to continue to play an instrumental role as manager of the club. For the avoidance of doubt the club has not sacked Kevin Keegan as manager.” Whether that statement means Keegan will stay is open to debate as it could merely have been designed in a bid to prevent the former United skipper from claiming compensation.

    If Keegan is sacked he is entitled to have the rest of his three-year-contract paid up, but if he quits, he will not be entitled to that money.

    Newcastle supporters, though, will hope it does not come to that following Ashley’s attempt to persuade his disgruntled manager he should remain at St James’s Park. Keegan did clash with Ashley on Monday over Joey Barton’s future

    at the club following tentative interest from Portsmouth over the weekend, but the two men have generally got on during their time together.

    Instead, Keegan’s frustration is directed at the board Ashley has appointed to run the club in his absence, with the specialist recruitment team of Dennis Wise and Tony Jimenez, as well as Llambias, struggling to recruit the quality players he demanded.

    The situation remains combustible and could ignite again today when Keegan is expected to return to work, although there is no question that the club’s supporters have sided with their manager following a furious reaction across Tyneside to the rumours surrounding Keegan’s departure.

    Keegan has never been one to bite his lip and, having asked the fans last week to judge the club’s transfer policy after the deadline following the controversial sale of James Milner to Aston Villa, he felt personally let down by the lack of new arrivals on Monday.

    Although the Spanish Under-21 striker Xisco arrived from Deportivo La Coruña for £5.8m and Uruguay international midfielder Ignacio Gonzalez has joined on a season’s loan from Valencia, there were no new defenders to bolster a threadbare back line.

    Ultimately, while Keegan has not had the control on transfer policy he is used to, he knows it will be his job on the line if results do not go well this season – something he was quick to point out at yesterday’s meeting.

    As well as a disagreement about what to do with Barton, The Journal also understands there was a difference of opinion on whether to let Alan Smith join Everton, while the future of Michael Owen has also been thrown into fresh doubt as a result of rumours he was offered to another Premier League club by a member of the United board.

    With a week and a half until Newcastle’s next game against newly-promoted Hull City, the warring factions have some vital breathing space in which to bring the dispute to an end.

    However, it is far from certain Keegan has not already decided he has had enough of what should have been his dream job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Interesting article from the Journal , it states that it was Keegan and managing director Kevin Llambias who were clashing and that Ashley had to step in and try to sort things out.

    I heard as much myself from the rumour mill, but this should not get Ashley off the hook.

    Ultimately, we have reached this point because of the men he appointed, and because of the power he himself has allowed them to yield, whilst at the same time, restricting Kev in many important areas, and constantly undermining his position.

    If Derek Llambias and Dennis Wise have done what they are alleged to have, then Ashley would have to be a fool to retain their services. The pair of them are rotten swines, with the interest of the fans, and the team, way down on their list of priorities.

    Ashley my son, you have one chance to make right what you have so far made so horribly wrong. Make the right decision, back the right man, and you may just be allowed to stick around. Fcuk this up though, you better make sure your on the first train back to Landin, because your fat mug will never be welcomed back north of the Tyne, let alone anywhere near our beloved club. Buck up!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Well said Charllie. Wise is just waiting in the wings to take over. Never mind this director of football crap. He's a back stabber and the fans won't have him.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 41,926 ✭✭✭✭_blank_


    If Wise gets the job and does a good one, either a cup or top 7 finish, the fans will bleedin' love him, and Kevin Keegan will be conveniently forgot about.

    Football fans all over the world are the very same, tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Des wrote: »
    If Wise gets the job and does a good one, either a cup or top 7 finish, the fans will bleedin' love him, and Kevin Keegan will be conveniently forgot about.

    Football fans all over the world are the very same, tbh.

    In an ideal world yes, but I just don't see him getting the chance to do that. The bloke is hated by virtually all of the fans, and should Ashley be stupid enough to give him the job, then I see mass protests and boycotts. It would be an unworkable situation.

    Keegan will never be forgotten about by the ans Des, you only need to visit the city once to know that. He is mre than just a manager and ex-player to that city.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Anyone see John Beresford on SSN? For a someone who always seemed a bit of a soft sod when he was a footballer, the bloke talks a hell of a lot of sense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,342 ✭✭✭✭That_Guy


    Anyone see John Beresford on SSN? For a someone who always seemed a bit of a soft sod when he was a footballer, the bloke talks a hell of a lot of sense.

    Yeah was watching the interview. Good points made and he really wants to have Keegan there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    So far this is unconfirmed, but NUFC.com, the most reliable and usually accurate Newcastle fan site posted this on their front page
    Messiah 1
    Wise man 0?

    Speculation was rife on Wednesday evening that one of the major obstacles to Kevin Keegan remaining in charge of Newcastle United could soon be removed - with the departure of Dennis Wise from the club.

    Different sources claim different recent transfer -related events to have been the trigger for the rows at SJP: the sale of Milner, attempts to flog Barton, Owen, claims that any of the squad were available and the failure to sign players in the positions identified by Keegan as priorities.

    What seems beyond question now though is that one of the two will be departing. And unlike KK, there are no crowds of chanting fans with flags and banners outside the ground in support of Wise - or in the dressing room.

    If this is in fact true, than all I can say is....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    yay!!

    Stupid Newcastle though, why cant they sort themselves out??

    Here's what I want:

    - Keegan to stay put

    - A shopping spree in January and I mean like, at least 6 signings god knows we need them. Good ones too!

    - Ashley to take his fcuking finger out and invest big money in new signings. Or for some foreign lad to buy the club and get a couple robinihos on the cards!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    If only we had politicians like this over here

    From NUFC.com
    Newcastle councillors last night (Wednesday September 3 2008) unanimously passed a notice motion calling for an end to the ongoing uncertainty over the position of Kevin Keegan as manager of Newcastle United.

    There was cross-party support for a notice of motion, tabled by Councillor Nick Forbes, which stated:

    “Council notes the continued confusion over Kevin Keegan’s position at Newcastle United.

    “Council recognises the widespread public support for Kevin Keegan, and knows how much he means to Newcastle United fans. Council believes that he is an asset to the club, the city and the wider community and expresses its support for his continuation in the role of manager.

    “Council regrets the adverse publicity being caused as a result of the current situation and urges Newcastle United (which has been awarded freedom of the city by the council) and Kevin Keegan to come to a mutually acceptable agreement which will allow Mr Keegan to remain in post and manage the team effectively.”

    Coun Nick Forbes, Leader of the Labour group, who proposed the motion, said: “Kevin Keegan is an asset to the club, to the city and the wider community. The whole council is united in hoping that both parties will come to a mutually acceptable agreement to allow him to stay in post and have freedom to manage the team effectively.”

    Coun David Faulkner, Deputy Leader of Newcastle City Council and Executive Member for Policy Development and Co-ordination, who seconded the motion, said: “This is an issue that is more than just a contractual issue between employer and employee. Because of the special place of Newcastle United in our community, it affects the reputation of the club and to an extent the city. We hope that it can be resolved soon and that Kevin Keegan stays, with his position both clarified and enhanced.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Absolutely smashing piece written in the journal by Mark Douglas, head and shoulders above the sensationalist bullsh/t of The Mail, Sun, and Alan Oliver's scribblings for the Chronicle.
    The meetings that will determine Kevin Keegan’s future at Newcastle should be used to resolve the issues that have festered for months, argues Mark Douglas

    AFTER the ferocious whirl of claim and counter-claim that battered Tyneside on Tuesday, relative calm descended on St James’s Park yesterday.

    The fear for Newcastle United supporters is that it is merely the eye of the storm, and the winds of change will return to sweep Kevin Keegan away from the club forever.

    First, the bare facts communicated by a sparse club statement on Wednesday morning. Away from the febrile atmosphere in Newcastle the important business is taking place as Keegan, along with representatives from the League Managers’ Association, thrashes out his future with a delegation from the club thought to include chairman Derek Llambias and executive director (football) Dennis Wise.

    Keegan is still manager and has neither resigned nor been sacked, but it remains to be seen whether a couple of days of talks can hammer out a solution to problems that have been smoldering for almost six months. The very fact that meetings between Keegan and the board have taken place offers a glimmer of light that Newcastle’s iconic manager may yet resume his day-to-day duties.

    But it remains improbable that all of the key power brokers at St James’s Park will survive the week, and even less likely that Keegan will stay at the club if he is asked to work in the same structure, and with the same responsibilities, that he currently holds.

    Negotiating a new way forward that satisfies all parties would be a masterstroke of diplomacy for the meeting’s mediators, and it requires issues that have been allowed to linger for too long to be finally tackled head on.

    The top agenda item to be resolved is the working relationship between chairman Derek Llambias and the Newcastle manager, which has deteriorated to the point where Keegan walked away from the club on Monday morning. There are doubts about whether the two can repair a relationship that is one of the most crucial in the set-up devised by owner Mike Ashley to run the club.

    Keegan feels as if he was sidelined in the days leading up to Monday’s disappointing deadline day, and his advice was ignored on the crucial issue of the sale of James Milner to Aston Villa.

    While his relationship with Llambias has become fractious, Keegan gets on well with Ashley and speaks highly of the owner both in public and in private.

    There have been disagreements between the two men but there is a mutual respect that was evident when Ashley personally intervened to bring the manager back from the brink on Tuesday afternoon.

    It may be the owner who holds the key to repairing the relationship between Keegan and former casino boss Llambias, who took over from chairman Chris Mort in July under the title managing director.

    Keegan’s next priority is to gain more influence on transfers, an area in which his authority has been severely eroded in the past six months.

    He will argue that, after the club’s under-whelming performance in the transfer market, he deserves a more prominent role if he is to see the club through the January window. To divorce him from the recruitment process appears a shameful waste of Keegan’s powers of persuasion. He was, after all, the man who convinced Alan Shearer to snub Manchester United and join his hometown club, and even if some of the fire in his eyes has dimmed lately he remains, on his day, a truly inspirational orator.

    An interesting insight was recently offered by a third party close to Milner, who revealed the extent of the division between Wise and the manager. There are, he confirmed, two distinct camps at Newcastle United and disagreement between the two paved the way for Milner’s eventual departure.

    Keegan had told the England Under-21 forward that he would support his case for a new deal, only for Wise to turn down two approaches by the Milner camp to discuss one.

    The arrival of Spain Under-21 international Xisco from Deportivo La Coruña and Uruguay midfielder Ignacio Gonzalez from Valencia on transfer deadline day also had the fingerprints of Wise and head of recruitment Tony Jimenez.

    Keegan’s distance from transfer dealings is a situation that can not be allowed to go on.

    It is not Wise, after all, who will have to front up to the media and supporters if Xisco turns out to be the next Albert Luque and Newcastle flounder without the graft of Milner.

    The Newcastle manager must cast an envious glance towards Wearside, where his Sunderland counterpart Roy Keane speaks in glowing terms of the backing he has received in the transfer market this summer.

    Although chief executive Peter Walker and chairman Niall Quinn are in place to negotiate the deals, it is the Black Cats manager who wields the majority of the power.

    He pulled the plug on a deal for Romanian defender Dorin Goian because he believed his club were asking too much money, and it is his gut feeling when meeting a player that influences a decision on whether to proceed with the transfer.

    Looking at the summer dealings of the two clubs, it is the Sunderland model that appears to have proved more successful.

    So Keegan has concrete evidence to back up the demands he has made of the Newcastle board. It may not be enough to broker a longer-lasting peace treaty from the uneasy truce that was reached on Tuesday, however.

    Because whatever the minutiae of the meeting it really all boils down to how much – if at all – the board value the judgement of their manager.

    If Ashley – and it is his club and not Llambias’ or Wise’s – believes that Keegan can advance United’s cause, he must hand him increased powers with immediate effect. The manager should have a final veto over comings and goings, and it must be his counsel that is sought over the burning issue of new contracts for Michael Owen and Steve Harper.

    If not, the only way forward is for the two parties to find an amicable way of parting company.

    A compromise that ignores or fails to resolve any of the big issues that hang heavily over St James’s Park this morning would merely be delaying the inevitable.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    SSN reporting Keegan has resigned


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭String


    This is becoming a joke. I think there should be a new job description. Manager and coach is a completely different thing. Denis wise is a complete twat and I cant stand him. I dont think the newcastle fans are going to be too pleased next home game. In fact I would think there would be a riot, they are too passionate for them to just chant anti ashely and wise songs...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,983 ✭✭✭leninbenjamin


    DeadSkin wrote: »
    SSN reporting Keegan has resigned

    isn't that how it started in the first place?

    now BBC have it...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Dennis Wise, Mike Ashley, Derek Llambias, watch your fcuking backs you traitorous swines. :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I think St. James Park will be very empty for quite a while. I think it will take all three of Wise, Ashley and Llambias to go if you are to see the crowd back again. I hope they stay away and force them out.
    Edit: Add in a player revolt as well and things might happen


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭DeadSkin


    Newcastle fan gettin' interviewed on SSN there, an ambulance flies by with sirens blaring, she turns and says that's for Mike Ashley. Brilliant stuff!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 88,972 ✭✭✭✭mike65


    Thats it this time.

    Did anyone else hear the stuff about the entire first team being put up for sale for the right price?

    Mike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭Limerick Dude


    I honestly cant believe this.

    There are going to be some serious consequences because of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    Keegan's statement
    I’ve been working desperately hard to find a way forward with the directors, but sadly that has not proved possible. It’s my opinion that a manager must have the right to manage and that clubs should not impose upon any manager any player that he does not want. It remains my fervent wish to see Newcastle United do well in the future and I feel incredibly sorry for the players, staff and most importantly the supporters. I have been left with no choice other than to leave

    A good man has been hung out to dry by a bunch of clowns who haven't got a fcukin clue the trouble they have now brought themselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,010 ✭✭✭besty


    Circus St.James' Park returns. As a Manchester United fan I have to empathise with Keegan. He's been treated very badly there and it's suicide from Ashley, Wise et al. to treat the Toon "Messiah" in such a way. Granted, I don't know the whole story behind the scenes but if the reasons for his departure are as reported, the club is more of a shambles than I previously thought - and that's saying something!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,000 ✭✭✭Cionád


    :(:(:(:(

    DeadSkin wrote: »
    Newcastle fan gettin' interviewed on SSN there, an ambulance flies by with sirens blaring, she turns and says that's for Mike Ashley. Brilliant stuff!!!

    that did cheer me up... a little.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,815 ✭✭✭Charlie


    I just cannot understand the logic of all this.

    Ashley, despite not deserving it, was granted a second chance to do right when it emerged initially that KK was still the manager. How the fcuk he still felt that Dennis Wise was the right man to back out of the two is beyond me. Whatever he has against Keegan, surely Ashley can see this is absolute suicide pushing Keegan out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,661 ✭✭✭✭Helix


    hvae to say i was amazed when he got/took the job second time round. it was always going to end in tears imo, im only surprised it took so long. i had him to walk before the end of last season


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,946 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Helix wrote: »
    hvae to say i was amazed when he got/took the job second time round. it was always going to end in tears imo, im only surprised it took so long. i had him to walk before the end of last season
    There is a clear reason behind this, and its not a normal one either, so what you thought is pretty irrelevant as there are very few managers that would put up with this.

    Would Ferguson, Wenger or Benitez accept being treated like this? You can bet your bottom dollar they would not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,561 ✭✭✭GrumPy


    I was in such a good mood today and now more of this ****. :(

    Division 1 anyone?


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