They are not used in any capacity in target shooting.

WRONG!!!!!!!:mad:
They are used in Bullseye 360,Three position shoots, and have been used in open class shoots here in Ireland over the last three years.It was also accepted in the Limerick DC [mentioned in the 64 page report] Sept 2013 that those competitions are prefectly acceptable and were viewed and filmed in the presence of CS D Sheehan, DI Brookes,and Sgt P Greene.who conceeded that this was a ligit type of competition.

EDIT

seemingly all be it not common or regularally shot there is such a competition

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They are also shot once a month these days in Midlands and in An Riocht it is a monthly three position shoot for classics,and semis.So yeah,they are pretty common,and is spreading to team level and inviting other clubs now in bullseye 360.

Lets not start this utter BS of "why would anyone want an assault rifle" now.It is counterproductive ridicilous and flying in the face of reality that these are the next generation of sporting rifles out there. The gun grabbing Gardai and govt are trying King Canute like to hold back the tide of modern sporting firearms that all other EU countries are accepting as a ligit and useful firearm.Even the UK with its much vaunted "assault rifle ban" is accepting that the form of the modular sporting rifle is here to stay no matter what.

LIFFY FISHING wrote: »

Just to get a discussion going..
After reading the 64 page document from the DOJ in relation to the proposed amendment to the firearms act and legislation, & freely admitting that I own multiple firearms for hunting and target shooting..what possible reason would an individual have to licence a center fire semi automatic rifle?..
They are not used in any capacity in target shooting.

They are going afters guns that they see as the easy ones to justify to Joe public if they get them they will be after your centerfire next and then they will come after your rimfires and shotguns

It doesn't matter what firearm a person has. If they bought it they think its the best firearm to suit their needs and who are we or the AGS to say you don't need that firearm for your needs try this less dangerous looking one. It doesn't matter what it looks like its how the person uses it,

Whats concerns me greatly is the whole - anti gardai thing going on at NARGC. Surely the key is to try and insert ourselves into the consultation process. That not going to go well if we seen screaming at the Gardai

I not seen any draft law, Ive seen the document recommending one and suggesting various amendments , but no actual proposed law.

If there is a proposed law, the issue has passed out of the domain of the Gardai and into the political one.

Its great that we can debate these matters.
There will be a meeting in Harbour House Range on Monday evening @ 7.00pm and anyone who has a gun licence for ANY type of firearm is welcome to attend, this will be an information evening where the proposed regulations will be discussed.

yubabill1 wrote: »

Except Joe Public is not interested

My thread in Politics.ie has had 300 views since yesterday and mostly shooters in the 20 comments.

It's only between us and AGS/DoJ - others see this -right or wrong - as an attempt to deflect attention from recent news stories.

Joe Public mightn't be interested but my local TD will be when I see him.

I'm going to meet my local TD and I'm bringing my mam, sister, my niece and as many friends and relatives as I can with me.

He aint going to be pleased to see so many votes that could go to somebody else if things go sideways.

LIFFY FISHING wrote: »

Its great that we can debate these matters.
There will be a meeting in Harbour House Range on Monday evening @ 7.00pm and anyone who has a gun licence for ANY type of firearm is welcome to attend, this will be an information evening where the proposed regulations will be discussed.

Is Tommy going to "fill me in?":p

Made appointments to see three TDs today for next week. They are all going to get a copy of the report and recommendations to study at their leisure before I start ringing back for replies the following week.

Beware the risen people.

Vegeta wrote: »

One thing I'd like to see is a breakdown of the 1293 lost and stolen firearms between 2010 and 2013.

How many centerfire handguns?
How many rimfire handguns?
How many shotguns with more than 3 round capacity?
How many centerfire rifles?

Thats not really the issue they are hi lighting. The issue is a general comment as to the fact that a certain percentage of legally held firearms, "disappear" . They admit they don't know how many end up in criminal use, but the point is its not 0.

We cannot win this argument by saying well look only "2" handguns ended up in criminal hands. because the simple retort is, thats fine if we ban them then at least those "2" wont the next time.

yubabill1 wrote: »

Is Tommy going to "fill me in?":p

Des Crofton and Michael Tope will be there to explain the documents implications to hunters and target shooters

LIFFY FISHING wrote: »

Just to get a discussion going..
After reading the 64 page document from the DOJ in relation to the proposed amendment to the firearms act and legislation, & freely admitting that I own multiple firearms for hunting and target shooting..what possible reason would an individual have to licence a center fire semi automatic rifle?..
They are not used in any capacity in target shooting.

Home protection ?

BoatMad wrote: »

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In my opinion centre fire pistols will have to be sacrificed to facilitate some pistol shooting. I would favour and immediate ban and hand-in of centre fires to at least allow a reasonable range of 22lr pistols to remain. ( and not just massively expensive olympic ones)

If we persist, we will loose all handguns. Its simply an unsustainable policy to continue to insist on retaining large calibre pistols. we will not and cannot win that battle. in persisting I believe we have brought this current change in policy down upon us


An Appeaser.."A person who will sacrifice all before him to the lions in the vain hope that they will be full up before they start eating him."
Winston Churchill

Speak for your own damn self !!!:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
WHat the FRUP gives you the "right" to suggest that MY sport segment should be thrown to the lions ,that I have spent over six thousand EUROS in the last six years fighting to continue along with over three hundred others around Ireland should be given up so that yours can continue???:mad::mad:

Have you learned NOTHING from how these things go in other countries ,even in the UK where the bodies decided to give up CF pistols for exactly this sort of cockeyed thinking so that Olympic style shooting could continue as it was a safe sport???Ask the UK Olympic pistol team how well THAT idea went when they get home from Switzerland from their monthly training??

There is NO deals,no sacrificing others,no eliteism, no NOTHING this time!
We are ALL in a very leaky lifeboat and there are no first class passengers in a lifeboat.We either hang together or we will hang seperately!
I'm disgusted that already this sort of talk and snivelling backroom deals are being mooted already.:mad:
Grizzly 45.

WHat the FRUP gives you the "right" to suggest that MY sport segment should be thrown to the lions ,that I have spent over six thousand EUROS in the last six years fighting to continue along with over three hundred others around Ireland should be given up so that yours can continue???

NO your sport isn't "continuing", you didn't fight that in court, that case was lost well before the court case. What you succeeded in doing ( and actually you never went to judgement) was to get a settlement that suited you. The fact is the case to retain centre fire pistols has not been accepted.

Speak for your own damn self !!!

Hey, I am.

Have you learned NOTHING from how these things go in other countries ,even in the UK where the bodies decided to give up CF pistols for exactly this sort of cockeyed thinking so that Olympic style shooting could continue as it was a safe sport???Ask the UK Olympic pistol team how well THAT idea went when they get home from Switzerland from their monthly training??

Well they can now use "Trigger trainer". Im not aware that the firearms ban in the UK ever allowed olympic handguns, its was a blanket ban, resulting from a huge public reaction to a tragedy. The same would happen here in a heartbeat.

There is NO deals,no sacrificing others,no eliteism, no NOTHING this time!
We are ALL in a very leaky lifeboat and there are no first class passengers in a lifeboat.We either hang together or we will hang seperately!
I'm disgusted that already this sort of talk and snivelling backroom deals are being mooted already

Great, since we've been SO successful with this policy, alright then I see all the shotgun enthusiasts right behind us then. remember , we're the first class passengers, they WILL leave us to drown.


BY THE WAY, Im not at all against the political lobbying, what I am against is this NARGC style "bull in a china shop" approach

Since you great at quoting

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
ALbert Einstein

kerry4sam wrote: »

Okay, so if members of An Garda Síochána are not suitably tasked for this, who would be?
Genuine Question,

Thanks,
kerry4sam

Have read the proposals over last 2 days and I have to say, the whole thing is constructed in a kak-handed, inconsistent, diversionary and contradictatory way that no civil servant above Executive Officer (first rung of middle-management) would sign their name to.

Any PR company worth their salt would make shreds of this document, the biggest problem they would have would be to actually get anybody interested.

Grizzly 45 wrote: »

Have you learned NOTHING from how these things go in other countries ,even in the UK where the bodies decided to give up CF pistols for exactly this sort of cockeyed thinking so that Olympic style shooting could continue as it was a safe sport???Ask the UK Olympic pistol team how well THAT idea went when they get home from Switzerland from their monthly training??

There is NO deals,no sacrificing others,no eliteism, no NOTHING this time!
We are ALL in a very leaky lifeboat and there are no first class passengers in a lifeboat.We either hang together or we will hang seperately!
I'm disgusted that already this sort of talk and snivelling backroom deals are being mooted already.:mad:
Grizzly 45.

And for all you .22 handgun owners - the Jihadi guy who killed 13 fellow soldiers in Fort Worth, Texas used a .22 - FNH's new 5.7 x 28 calibre pistol with expanding ammo (I know, a little over .22, but not exactly a 9mm, albeit more deadly).

And what about Hornady's 4.6mm/.17 ammo used in HK MP7? That's sub-.22 cal in AGS parlance.

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QUOTE=BoatMad;93038039]NO your sport isn't "continuing", you didn't fight that in court, that case was lost well before the court case. What you succeeded in doing ( and actually you never went to judgement) was to get a settlement that suited you. The fact is the case to retain centre fire pistols has not been accepted.

Well I'm GLAD you were present in all those court cases inc mine to know what went down..Are you a solicitor/barrister bechance??

Well they can now use "Trigger trainer". Im not aware that the firearms ban in the UK ever allowed olympic handguns, its was a blanket ban, resulting from a huge public reaction to a tragedy. The same would happen here in a heartbeat.

If that is soo wonderful why are they all travelling each month to Geneva to practise with real firearms ??Thats sort of like saying you can become a tour de France bike rider by playing a tour de France Xbox game??

Great, since we've been SO successful with this policy, alright then I see all the shotgun enthusiasts right behind us then. remember , we're the first class passengers, they WILL leave us to drown.

You dont get it do you???The shot gunners are just a likely to get it in the neck under the following part of the bill.

Head 2 - Amendment to section 4 of the Firearms Act 1925
Conditions of grant of firearm certificate
Section 4 of the Firearms Act 1925 is amended:
by the insertion of the following subsection after subsection 4(1):
4(1A) An issuing person shall not grant a firearm certificate or the
renewal of a firearm certificate for a firearm, if in the opinion of the
issuing person, granting the certificate could prejudice public safety or
the peace. In forming an opinion, an issuing person may have regard to
any or all of the following :
a) the proliferation of firearms and the nature and extent of crime
resulting from firearms in the issuing person’s division or district as
the case may be;*
b) the calibre of the firearm;
c) the velocity of the ammunition
d) the size and shape (appearance) of the firearm
e) the lethality of the firearm.


So that means if you are living in Havemore Ave Dub 4,and there is a spate of break ins in the area.The super could say."oh well this is a high crime neighbourhood area the same as Gurrier ville .Sorry no more liscenses in this area.Hand in the Purdy there lads."
Where are guns more likely to be stolen and what types?? Farmers shotguns with virtually zero security..Suddenly Rathnafec No where county is now a" high crime area".There goes farmer Murphys double barrel.
It dawns on some smart boy in ADS or DOJ watching Love/Hate or some other TV trash "Oh Hey..Sawn off shotguns in DBBL configuration are leathl..." D and E of that head kicks in!! Still think the shotgunners are safe????

Think the "white list" will be any great saving??Doubt it considering they already have a problem with target pistols anyway.and what happens when the first scrote shoots a fellow scrote with a Olympic style target pistol??You are hust as dead with a bullet from a Walther GSP or a GSG .22.. Will the GSP suddenly become the new "criminals weapon of choice" As they are pretty available in Europe for about 100 quid these days.

BY THE WAY, Im not at all against the political lobbying, what I am against is this NARGC style "bull in a china shop" approach

So am I ,but the trouble seems to be that talking nice and offering submissions have got precisely NOWHERE as the letter in circulation from NARGC about a meet in the DOJ that suggests any and all of our submissions will be "circular filed "and that there will be NO meaningful engagement with the parties.....Would you be surprised at the NARGC reaction??Sham consultation ,sham democracy..

Since you great at quoting

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
ALbert Einstein[/QUOTE]

Here's another one for you.
There comes a time when silence is betrayl
Martin Luther King.


* I should add onto that point last year CS D Sheehan Henry St was interviewed in the Limerick Leader along with Dr Marie Cassidy where they were lauding the "dramatic drop of gun crime in Limerick,by so much as 95%" Yet in the court cases CS Sheehan under oath stated that he was worried bout the "rise" in gun crime in Limerick!!
Not that he was belived by the court very much.But it just goes to show that they cant even tell the truth on this in any shape or form..

Sh1tbag OToole wrote: »

Are there any politicians who are into shooting?

There is one down in Kerry...

Not to sure he is the best public representative though to be fair.

We could get whey gun club to request a meeting with all local td's ?

Any benefit in that, get them all into a town hall type forum and give em a brief of how craps this is not hair for usbut for any td or party that supports it.

Town hall meetings, I'd make sure not just myself but friends neigh kits and family attend as well.

kerry4sam wrote: »

Okay, so if members of An Garda Síochána are not suitably tasked for this, who would be?
Genuine Question,

Thanks,
kerry4sam

Simple ,like in any civilised EU country that doesnt fear their citizens having arms.This is mostly handled by a civillian staff in what is the equivilent of their county/city councils. Take Germany[as I know this one the best] it is the Lands rat amt a type of super council that has authorithy over all admistritive functions in its Bezirk or Landkreis [Trans city and County areas]

If you have either your sport shooter liscense,or your hunting liscense[The harder one of the two but allows you to own and purchase unlimited long guns but only TWO pistols]. You can pop into any gun shop and buy over the counter what takes your fancy and go home.HOWEVER the onus is on you to register it on your liscense within 14 days.

The staff are civillians with no special firearms training,many of them are actually anti gun,but dont let their personal opinions interfere with their civil servant duties[Unlike Ireland] as civil servants over there can and are sacked for any infringements of their duties.For some of the stunts pulled over here,were it in Germany,they would be in jail along time ago.

The system works as it is set out clearly and unambigously WHAT you need to own,carry and posses a firearm with definitions of items ,etc.Unlike here where you fulfill the conditions and it is left in the hands of your local anti gun Superintendant to a personal whim on whether the gun is safe because of its "looks".
Ironic too that in NI during a virtual civil war from of 30 odd years.The amount of firearms legally liscensed for sporting or self defence never dropped or was tightned up or banned outright and was administerd byTEN civillians in the RUC using mostly card indexes and pens and paper.
Who could also tell who had what,where and when.Compared to this shambolic system down in the South then and now.

This whole system should be removed from AGS ,bar a backround and criminal check they should have no further part to play in this as it clearly obvious they cant handle it,are uttterly anti gun and paranoid about civillians owning anything more dangerous than a super soaker.Not to mind that they area political arm of the State,which NO police force should be either.
A competant civillian admin with knowledgeable people an efficent computor filing system ,clear and unambigious rules as to what you need to own a firearm of any particular type and you fulfilling the conditions should be under law an automatic SHALL ISSUE,isnt too much to ask for is it??

lucas247 wrote: »

If their from FG or Labour or a Garda we need to e-mail, write or phone them as often as possible, dont let them say their not involved, if they're a member of the party or the Gardi they can raise the issue at a higher level.

An individual Garda... Who has nothing to do with this kind of thing? Sure Go ahead and while your at it, get yourself nicely acquainted with section 10 of the non fatal offences against the person act 1997.

This is not the time to go making rash decisions, it only serves to make you look like a nut and discredit any argument you have.

Unashamedly cut&pasted off the ICABS website.:D
[The antis are useful for something once in awhile]
Now you have multiple choices for contacting your local TD via all sorts of methods,if you cant get down in person Write or comment on their Facebook or Twitter account.
There are NO EXCUSES acceptable anymore not to get in contact.

100 years ago in 1914 there was a recruitement poster for the army which said "What did you do in the war Daddy?" Dont let us be the last generation with our sons and daughters asking us "What did you do to stop the 2014 gun ban Daddy/Mummy?"




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Tel: 01 618 3230
Constituency Offices
58 Fassaugh Avenue, Cabra, Dublin 7
Tel: 01 868 3934
139 North Strand Road, Dublin 3
Tel: 01 772 7102

Maureen O'Sullivan, TD
Email: maureen.osullivan@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 6183488

DUBLIN MID WEST

Robert Dowds, TD
Email: Robert.Dowds@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dáil Office 01 618 3446
Constituency Office 01 4056895 or 01 618 4170
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/robertdowds/clinics.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Robert-Dowds/317195538269

Frances Fitzgerald, TD
Email: Frances.Fitzgerald@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183771
Fax: 01-6184512
Constituency Details
Laurel House, New Road, Clondalkin, Dublin 22
Telephone: 01-4577712

Derek Keating, TD
Email: Derek.Keating@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184014
Fax: 01-6184626
Constituency Details
66 Beech Park, Lucan, Co.Dublin
Telephone: 087-2857435
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Keating.Derek

Joanna Tuffy, TD
Email: joanna.tuffy@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dáil Office 01 6183822
Constituency Office 01 6218400
Clinics details - http://www.labour.ie/joannatuffy/clinics.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joanna-Tuffy-TD/181115348573461

DUBLIN NORTH

Clare Daly, TD
Email: Clare.Daly@oireachtas.ie
Phone: 01-6183390
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/ClareDalyTD

Alan Farrell, TD
Email: Alan.Farrell@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184008
Fax: 01-6184328
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1035764987

Dr. James Reilly, TD
Email: james.reilly@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6711026
Constituency Details
Chamber Buildings, 1st Floor, Unit 3, North Street, Swords, Co. Dublin
Telephone: 01-8901300
Fax: 01-8417633
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DrJamesReillyTD

Brendan Ryan, TD
Email: Brendan.Ryan@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dáil office 01 618 3421 or 01 618 4584
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/brendanryan/clinics.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Brendan-Ryan-Labour-Party/184047904961795

DUBLIN NORTH CENTRAL

Richard Bruton, TD
Email: richard.bruton@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6312172
Fax: 01-6184501
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/richardbrutontd

Finian McGrath, TD
Email: finian.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie
Tel: Dail Office: 01 618 3942
Tel: Constituency Office: 01 618 3031
Fax: 01 618 4993

Aodhán Ó Ríordáin, TD
Email: aodhan.oriordain@oir.ie
Tel 01 6183209
Mobile 086 8190336
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AodhanORiordain

DUBLIN NORTH-EAST

Tommy Broughan, TD
Email: thomas.p.broughan@oireachtas.ie
Phone; 01 6183557 (Dail Eireann)
Fax: 01 6184545
Clinics Information http://www.tommybroughan.com/newsite/index.php/contacts/

Terence Flanagan, TD
Email: terence.flanagan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183634
Fax: 01-6184571
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001700869544

Sean Kenny, TD
Email: Sean.Kenny@oireachtas.ie
Tel 016183744
Mobile 086 8126340
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/SeanKennyTD

DUBLIN NORTH-WEST

Dessie Ellis, TD
Email: Dessie.Ellis@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3006
Constituency office : 01 834 7575

John Lyons, TD
Email: John.Lyons@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Details Labour Party Office, 5 Main Street
Finglas, Dublin 11
Tel: Leinster House Office 01 618 3280
Clinic Details http://www.labour.ie/johnlyons/clinics.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/JohnLyonsDublinNorthWest

Róisín Shortall, TD
Email: roisin.shortall@oireachtas.ie
Tel For Constituency Matters: 01 6183593
Fax: 01 635 4765
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/roisinshortall/clinics.html

DUBLIN SOUTH

Peter Mathews, TD
Email: Peter.Mathews@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184443
Fax: 01-6184650
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/petermathewsfg

Olivia Mitchell, TD
Email: olivia.mitchell@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183088
Fax: 01-6184579
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/oliviamitchellTD

Shane Ross, TD
Email: Shane.Ross@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 6183014
Fax : 01 618 4192
Constituency Officer: Stephen O'Shea, Tel : 01 618 3342

Alan Shatter, TD
Email: alan.shatter@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183911
Fax: 01-6184135

Alex White, TD
Email: Alex.White@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 618 3972
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/alexwhite/clinics.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Alex-White/58389344622

DUBLIN SOUTH-CENTRAL

Catherine Byrne, TD
Email: catherine.byrne@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183083
Fax: 01-6184511
Constituency Details
5A Tyrconnell Road, Inchicore, Dublin 8
Telephone: 01-4735080/01-4735087
Fax: 01-4735112
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001779687553

Eric Byrne, TD
Email: Eric.Byrne@oireachtas.ie
Tel Office 01-6183223
Fax: 01 6184371
Advice Centre: Crumlin Area Office
Directions: The centre is located in the Dublin City Council area office, which is in the heart of Crumlin Village.
Days & Times: Every Monday at 11 a.m., except for the month of August
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=540411687

Joan Collins, TD
Email: Joan.Collins@oireachtas.ie
Phone Joan at Dail Eireann at 6183215
Constituency Office
10A Old County Road
(Across from Crumlin Shopping Centre)
Dublin 12
Contact the office at
01 454 0085 / 454 0086
Facebook: http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Joan-Collins/100000746982480

Michael Conaghan, TD
Email: Michael.Conaghan@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dáil Office 01 618 4033
Dáil Fax 01 618 4632
Mobile: 086 1753747

Aengus Ó Snodaigh, TD
Email: aengus.osnodaigh@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 4084

DUBLIN SOUTH-EAST

Lucinda Creighton, TD
Email: lucinda.creighton@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6194309
Fax: 01-6184191
Constituency Details
Telephone: 01-6194453
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=550146716

Kevin Humphreys, TD
Email: Kevin.Humphreys@oireachtas.ie
Tel Office: 01 6183224
Mobile: 087 2989103
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/kevinhumphreys/clinics.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/cllrkevinhumphreys

Eoghan Murphy, TD
Email: Eoghan.Murphy@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183324
Fax: 01-6184666
Constituency Details
54A Ranelagh Triangle, Ranelagh, Dublin 6
Telephone: 01-6183324
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/murphyeoghan

Ruairí Quinn, TD
Email: ruairi.quinn@oireachtas.ie
Tel Office: 01 6183434
Fax: 01 6184153
Clinics details http://www.ruairiquinn.ie/?page_id=286

DUBLIN SOUTH-WEST

Sean Crowe, TD
Email: Sean.Crowe@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3941

Brian Hayes, TD
Email: brian.hayes@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183567
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Brian-Hayes-TD/213901058679622

Eamonn Maloney, TD
Email: Eamonn.Maloney@oireachtas.ie
Tel Office: 01-6184833

Pat Rabbitte, TD
Email: pat.rabbitte@oireachtas.ie
Constituency office - 29 - 31 Adelaide Road, Dublin 2
Tel Constituency Office 01 678 2011 / 01 618 3772
Department Office 01 678 2000 / 01 678 9807
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Pat-Rabbitte-TD/137057356358931

DUBLIN WEST

Joan Burton, TD
Email: joan.burton@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dail: 01 6184006
Fax: (01) 6184175
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Joan-Burton/300073646806

Joe Higgins, TD
Email: Joe.Higgins@oireachtas.ie
Phone: 01-6183370

Patrick Nulty, TD
Email: patrick.nulty@oireachtas.ie
Tel: (01) 618 3133
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Patrick-Nulty/67427617480
Advice centres http://patricknulty.ie/?page_id=1013

Dr. Leo Varadkar, TD
Email: leo.varadkar@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6041062
Fax: 01-6184125
Constituency Details
37A Main Street, Ongar, Dublin 15
Telephone: 01-6403133
Fax: 01-6403155
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Leo-Varadkar-TD/178974912140818

DÚN LAOGHAIRE

Sean Barrett, TD
Email: sean.barrett@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183895
Fax: 01-6184127
Constituency Details
2-3 Rogans Court, Patrick Street, Dun Laoghaire, Co. Dublin
Telephone: 01-2845333
Fax: 01-2845250

Richard Boyd Barrett, TD
Email: Richard.BoydBarrett@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01-6183449
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=574107974

Eamon Gilmore, TD
Email: eamon.gilmore@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 618 3566 To Contact the Labour Party Leader's Office.
01 4082018 & 01 408 2019 FOR CONSTITUENCY QUERIES ONLY.
Constituency Office Fax: 01 4082690
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/EamonGilmore

Mary Mitchell O'Connor, TD
Email: Mary.MitchellOConnor@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183302
Fax: 01-6184344
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001867521181

GALWAY EAST

Ciaran Cannon, TD
Email: Ciaran.Cannon@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-8896510
Fax: 01-6184796
Constituency Details
King Street, Loughrea, Co. Galway
Telephone: 091-880790
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ciaran.cannon

Paul J Connaughton, TD
Email: PaulJ.Connaughton@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183032
Fax: 01-6184373
Constituency Details
Main Street, Ballinasloe, Co. Galway
Telephone: 090-9646878
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=560988008

Colm Keaveney, TD
Email: Colm.Keaveney@oireachtas.ie
Tel Constituency Office 093 24070
Dail Office 01 6183821
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Colm-Keaveney/122380051117671

Michael P Kitt, TD
Email: michael.kitt@oireachtas.ie
Tel: (090) 9678147
Fax: (090) 9678148

GALWAY WEST

Noel Grealish, TD
Email: noel.grealish@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office
Unit 14 Briarhill Business Park, Briarhill, Galway

Seán Kyne, TD
Email: Sean.Kyne@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184426
Constituency Details
Telephone: 087-6137372
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SeanKyneTD

Derek Nolan, TD
Email: Derek.Nolan@oireachtas.ie
Tel Constituency Office (091) 561006
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/dereknolan.galway

Éamon Ó Cuív, TD
Email: eamon.ocuiv@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office
Kirwin House
Flood St, Galway
Phone: (091) 562846
Fax: (091) 562844

Brian Walsh, TD
Email: Brian.Walsh@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184236
Constituency Details
114 Bohermore, Galway
Telephone: 091-513051
Fax: 091-513050
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000643948346

KERRY NORTH LIMERICK WEST

Jimmy Deenihan, TD
Email: jdeenihan@eircom.net
Telephone: 01-6313804
Constituency Details
Finuge, Lixnaw, Co. Kerry
Telephone: 068-40154
Fax: 068-40383

Martin Ferris, TD
Email: martin.ferris@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 4043

Arthur Spring, TD
Email: Arthur.Spring@oireachtas.ie
Tel Kerry Office (066) 71 25337
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/arthurjspring

KERRY SOUTH

Tom Fleming, TD
Email: Tom.Fleming@oireachtas.ie
Tel : 01-6183354

Brendan Griffin, TD
Email: Brendan.Griffin@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184480
Fax: 01-6184664
Constituency Details
Castlemaine Village, Castlemaine, Co. Kerry
Telephone: 066-9795666
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=545556933

Michael Healy-Rae, TD
Email: Michael.HealyRae@oireachtas.ie
Tel : 01-6184319

KILDARE NORTH

Bernard Durkan, TD
Email: bernard.durkan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183732/01-6183191
Fax: 01-6184515
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Bernard-Durkan-TD/116782611727827

Anthony Lawlor, TD
Email: Anthony.Lawlor@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183007
Constituency Details
56 South Main Street, Naas, Co. Kildare
Telephone: 045-888488
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001680805706

Catherine Murphy, TD
Email: Catherine.Murphy@oireachtas.ie
Dáil: 01 618 3099
Constituency: 01 615 6625
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/catherinemurphytd

Emmet Stagg, TD
Email: emmet.stagg@oireachtas.ie
Tel Home: 01 6272149
Dáil: 01 6183013
Fax (home): 01 6270601
Fax (Dail): 01 6184538
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/emmetstagg/clinics.html

KILDARE SOUTH

Martin Heydon, TD

Email: Martin.Heydon@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183017
Fax: 01-6184323
Constituency Details
Moorefield Road, Newbridge, Co. Kildare
Telephone: 045-487624
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/martinheydonfg

Seán Ó Fearghaíl, TD
Email: sean.ofearghail@oireachtas.ie

Jack Wall, TD
Email: jack.wall@oireachtas.ie
Tel Constituency Office Tel 059 86 32874
Constituency Office Fax 059 86 33157
Dáil Tel (01) 6183571
Dáil Fax (01) 6184540
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/jackwall/clinics.html

LAOIGHIS-OFFALY

Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, TD
Email: corcorankennedy@eircom.net
Telephone: 01-6184075
Fax: 01-6184582
Constituency Details
5 The Courtyard, Emmet Street, Birr, Co. Offaly
Telephone: 057-9125825
Fax: 057-9122865
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/marcella.corcorankennedy

Barry Cowen, TD
Email: barry.cowen@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office: Grand Canal House
William St, Tullamore, Co. Offaly
Tel: 057 9321976
Fax: 057 9321910
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=100001924079188

Charles Flanagan, TD
Email: charles.flanagan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183652
Fax: 01-6184568
Constituency Details
Lismard Court, Portlaoise, Co. Laois
Telephone: 057-8620232
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1080158510

Sean Fleming, TD
Email: sean.fleming@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 057 8732692
Fax: 057 8732922

Brian Stanley, TD
Email: Brian.Stanley@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3987

LIMERICK

Niall Collins, TD
Email: niall.collins@oireachtas.ie
Telephone - 01 6184277
Fax 01 6184183
Constituency Office:
Red House Hill, Patrickswell, Co Limerick
Tel 061 300 149. Fax: 061 307451
Mobile: 087 2749659
Clinic details http://www.niallcollinstd.ie/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000787972474

Dan Neville, TD
Email: daniel.neville@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183356
Fax: 01-6184581
Constituency Details
Main Street, Rathkeale, Co. Limerick
Telephone: 069-63610
Fax: 069-63609
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1436657462

Patrick O'Donovan, TD
Email: Patrick.O'Donovan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183610
Fax: 01-6184677
Constituency Details
24 Maiden Street, Newcastle West, Co. Limerick/Main Street, Cappamore, Co. Limerick
Telephone: 069-77998/061-381868
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=579346009

LIMERICK CITY

Michael Noonan, TD
Email: michael.noonan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6764735
Fax: 01-6184504
Constituency Details
Telephone: 061-229350

Willie O'Dea, TD
Email: willie.odea@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 061-454488/454522
Fax: 061-328849

Kieran O'Donnell, TD
Email: kieran.odonnell@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183808
Fax: 01-6184199
Constituency Details
27 William Street, Limerick
Telephone: 061-204040
Fax: 061-204057
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001635598211

Jan O'Sullivan, TD
Email: jan.osullivan@oireachtas.ie
Dáil Tel 01 6183670
Dáil Fax 01 6184617
Constituency Office Tel 061 312316 Fax 061 313707
Mechanics Institute, Hartstonge Street, Limerick

LONGFORD - WESTMEATH

James Bannon, TD
Email: james.bannon@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184226
Fax: 01-6184398
Constituency Details
Richmond Street, Longford
Telephone: 043-3336185
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jamesbannonTD

Nicky McFadden, TD
Email: Nicky.McFadden@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183938
Fax: 01-6184139
Constituency Office Athlone: Sean Costello Street, Athlone
Phone: (090) 64 78004
Constituency Office Mullingar: Dominick Street, Mullingar
Phone: (044) 93 90534
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NickyMcFaddenTD

Willie Penrose, TD
Email: willie.penrose@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 6183734
Fax 01 6184541
Constituency Office - Convent Lane, Bishop Gate Street, Mullingar, Co. Westmeath
Tel 044 93 43987
Fax 044 93 43966
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WilliePenroseLabourParty

Robert Troy, TD
Email: Robert.Troy@oireachtas.ie
Tel: (01) 6184059
Mobile: (087) 7979890
Constituency details
The Manse, Castle Street
Mullingar, Co. Westmeath
Tel: 044 9330769
Facebook: http://en-gb.facebook.com/people/Robert-Troy/1596728296

LOUTH

Gerry Adams, TD
Email: gerry.adams@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 6184884

Peter Fitzpatrick, TD
Email: Peter.Fitzpatrick@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183563
Fax: 01-6184514
Constituency Details
2 Court House Square, Dundalk, Co. Louth
Telephone: 042-9330100
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002024295766

Séamus Kirk, TD
Email: seamus.kirk@oireachtas.ie
Tel: (042) 9331032 or (01) 6183468
Fax: 042-9355680

Gerald Nash, TD
Email: Gerald.Nash@oireachtas.ie
Tel 01 6183576
Constituency Office:
Connolly Hall, Palace Street, Drogheda,Co Louth.
Tel: 041 9810811
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1044516565

Fergus O'Dowd, TD
Email: fergus.odowd@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6782024
Fax: 01-6184628
Constituency Details
Unit 1, Jameson House, Bachelor's Lane, Drogheda, Co. Louth
Telephone: 041-9842275
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/pages/Fergus-ODowd-TD/109482069074958

MAYO

Dara Calleary, TD
Email: dara.calleary@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office: 19 Pearse Road, Ballina, Co. Mayo
Tel: 096 77613
Fax: 096 78510
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Dara-Calleary-TD/121643426343

Enda Kenny, TD
Email: enda.kenny@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6194020
Fax: 01-6764048
Constituency Details
Tucker Street, Castlebar, Co. Mayo
Telephone: 094-9025600
Fax: 094-9026554
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/endakennyofficial

Michelle Mulherin, TD
Email: Michelle.Mulherin@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183065
Fax: 01-6184599
Constituency Details
John Street, Ballina, Co. Mayo
Telephone: 096-77596
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/people/Michelle-Mulherin/1394704019

John O'Mahony, TD
Email: john.omahony@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183706
Fax: 01-6184595
Constituency Details
D'Alton Street, Claremorris, Co. Mayo
Telephone: 094-9373560
Fax: 094-9373379
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/john.omahonytd

Michael Ring, TD
Email: michael.ring@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6041034
Fax: 01-6041672
Constituency Details
Quay Street, Westport, Co. Mayo
Telephone: 098-25734/098-27012
Fax: 098-27644

MEATH EAST

Regina Doherty, TD
Email: Regina.Doherty@oireachtas.ie Telephone: 01-6183573
Fax: 01-6184524
Constituency Details
2 Main Street, Ratoath, Co. Meath
Telephone: 01-8257204
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/cllr.regina.doherty

Dominic Hannigan, TD
Email: Dominic.Hannigan@oireachtas.ie
Work Address: 6 Civic Square, Ashbourne, Co. Meath
Telephone: 01 835 3871
Clinics details http://www.dominichannigan.com/clinics/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Senator-Dominic-Hannigan/110917065610132

MEATH WEST

Ray Butler, TD
Email: Ray.Butler@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183378
Fax: 01-6184616
Constituency Details
1 St Martin's House, Finnegan's Way, Trim, Co. Meath
Telephone: 046-9486717

Damien English, TD
Email: damien.english@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184012
Fax: 01-6183430
Constituency Details
20 Watergate Street, Navan, Co. Meath
Monday to Friday 9am to 5pm.
Closed for lunch 1pm to 2pm
Telephone: 046-9071667
Fax: 046-9072225
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000056572070

Peadar Tóibín, TD
Email: Peadar.Toibin@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3518

ROSCOMMON LEITRIM SOUTH

Frank Feighan, TD
Email: frank.feighan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184289
Fax: 01-6184799
Constituency Details
Bridge Street, Boyle, Co. Roscommon
Telephone: 071-9662608
Fax: 071-9662383
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001403124521

Luke 'Ming' Flanagan, TD
Email: luke@lukemingflanagan.ie
Tel 086 368 5680
Constituency office,
Priory House, Barrack Street, Castlerea, Co. Roscommon
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/Lukemingflanagan

Denis Naughten, TD
Email: denis.naughten@oireachtas.ie Tel: 01 6183545
Fax: 01 6184581
Mobile: 086 170 8800
Constituency Offices :
Abbey Street, Roscommon
Tel: 090 6627557
Mon, Tue, Thurs, Fri 10am-5pm
Monksland Business Park, Athlone, Co. Roscommon
Tel:090 6435039
Tue (by appointment), Wed 10am-5pm, Thurs 7-8pm (drop in clinic)
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000788867080

SLIGO LEITRIM NORTH

Michael Colreavy, TD
Email: Michael.Colreavy@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 01 618 3745

Tony McLoughlin, TD
Email: Tony.McLoughlin@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183537
Fax: 01-6184503
Constituency Details
48 John Street, Sligo/Main Street, Manorhamilton, Co Leitrim (Thu/Fri only)
Telephone: 071-9110011/071-9856626

John Perry, TD
Email: john.perry@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6312243
Fax: 01-6184610
Constituency Details
Westward Town Centre, Bridge Street, Sligo
Telephone: 071-9151011/071-9189611
Fax: 071-9151119
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002028216471

TIPPERARY NORTH

Noel J Coonan, TD
Email: noel.coonan@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183842
Fax: 01-6184789
Constituency Details
Bank Street, Templemore, Co. Tipperary/1 Rosemount, Roscrea, Co. Tipperary/
Pearse Street, Nenagh, Co. Tipperary
Telephone: 0504-32544/0505-31655/067-33008
Fax: 0504-56796
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/noelcoonan

Alan Kelly, TD
Email: Alan.Kelly@oireachtas.ie
Work Address: No 1 Summerhill Nenagh, Co. Tipperary
Tel: Office 067 34190
Fax: 067 34011
Department 01 670 7444
Clinics details http://www.alankelly.ie/clinics/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/alankellylabour

Michael Lowry, TD
Email: michael.lowry@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 0504 22022
Fax: 0504 23349

TIPPERARY SOUTH

Tom Hayes, TD
Email: tom.hayes@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183168
Fax: 01-6184634
Constituency Details
The Green, Cashel, Co. Tipperary
Telephone: 062-62892/052-618073
Fax: 062-63595
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TomHayesTipperaryTD

Seamus Healy, TD
Email: Seamus.Healy@oireachtas.ie
Tel: 052 6121883
Clinics details http://wuag.wordpress.com/deputy-seamus-healy-td/

Mattie McGrath, TD
Email: mattie.mcgrath@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Office
2 Joyce's Lane, The Quay, Clonmel, Co Tipperary
Tel: 052 6129155 / 086 8184307
Clinics details http://www.mattiemcgrath.ie/clinics.asp

WATERFORD

Paudie Coffey, TD

Email: Paudie.Coffey@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183902
Fax: 01-6184572
Constituency Details
62 Mayors Walk, Waterford
Telephone: 051-853867
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1107070069

Ciara Conway, TD
Email: Ciara.Conway@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dáil office 01 618 4011
Constituency Office
36 Mary Street, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford
Tel Constituency Office 058 24514
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/ciaraconway/clinics.html

John Deasy, TD
Email: john.deasy@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183596
Fax: 01-6184517
Constituency Details
83 O'Connell Street, Dungarvan, Co. Waterford
Telephone: 058-43003 Fax: 058-45315

John Halligan, TD
Email: John.Halligan@oireachtas.ie
Tel 051 - 871735
Clinics details http://www.johnhalligan.net/constituency-offices/
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/johnhalliganwaterford

WEXFORD

John Browne, TD
Email: john.browne@oireachtas.ie
Constituency Details
Lower Church Street, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford
Tel: 053 92 35046 Fax: 053 92 35049
Constituency Office open Monday to Friday 10.00am - 1.00pm and 2.00pm - 4.00pm.

Brendan Howlin, TD
Email: brendan.howlin@oireachtas.ie
Tel Minister's Office (01) 631 8102
Minister's Office (01) 631 8021
Constituency Phone (053) 912 4036
Constituency Fax (053) 912 3765
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/brendanhowlin/clinics.html

Paul Kehoe, TD
Email: paul.kehoe@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6194080
Constituency Details
7 Weafer Street, Enniscorthy, Co. Wexford
Telephone: 053-9243558
Fax: 053-9239562
Clinics details http://www.paulkehoe.com/?page_id=23
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1052814002

Dr. Liam Twomey, TD
Email: Liam.Twomey@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6184299
Fax: 01-6184536
Constituency Details
Anne Street, Wexford
Telephone: 053-9146682
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000910306491

Mick Wallace, TD
Email: Mick.Wallace@oireachtas.ie
Phone: 01 618 3287
Facebook http://www.facebook.com/wallacemick

WICKLOW

Stephen Donnelly, TD
Email: Stephen.Donnelly@oireachtas.ie
Phone: 01 618 4293
Constituency Office: Church Road, Greystones
Tel: (01) 2017300
Mobile: 086 3602421
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/DonnellyforWicklow

Andrew Doyle, TD
Email: andrew.doyle@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183611
Fax: 01-6184560
Constituency Details
2a, The Lower Mall, Wicklow
Telephone: 0404-66622
Fax: 0404-66670
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AndrewDoyleTD

Anne Ferris, TD
Email: Anne.Ferris@oireachtas.ie
Tel Dáil office 01 6183539
Fax Dáil Office 01 6184671
Constituency Office
115 Main Street, Bray, Co Wicklow
Tel Constituency office 01 2764699
Constituency Office Fax 01 2116664
Clinics details http://www.labour.ie/anneferris/clinics.html
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Anne-Ferris/105231102881307

Simon Harris, TD
Email: Simon.Harris@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183805
Fax: 01-6184197
Constituency Details
Office Unit 4, Market Court, Main Street, Bray, Co. Wicklow
Telephone: 01-2813727
Clinics details http://www.simonharris.ie/?page_id=173
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DeputySimonHarris

Billy Godfrey, TD
Email: billy.timmins@oireachtas.ie
Telephone: 01-6183384
Fax: 01-6184604
Constituency Details
Weaver Square, Baltinglass, Co Wicklow
Telephone: 059-6481016
Fax: 059-6482444
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/billy.timmins

Of course there is no magic bullet, Of course we must lobby TD's, lets not forget Senators too. Did me shag all good when I lobbied them on a few issues (non gun) in recent years, but I'll go at it again.
An open letter in a paid advert will get a clear, unadulterated message to the Minister that is difficult to ignore.
Paid advocates are polished and savvy. Shooting reps often aren't.
And please, no more recriminations and backroom negotiations.
The govt are in a hard place over water etc, AGS are in an awkward place too. We need to make things even more awkward publicly. With an offer to walk quietly away if given fair treatment to all branches of our hobby.