Vehicle Gallery - Discussion Thread

carzony · 18-11-2014 1:09am

CharlieCroker wrote: »

Correct but you can't drive an automatic in the guards without doing a specific course above the standard car course

surely if you can handle a manual you can handle an auto?

CharlieCroker · 18-11-2014 1:12am

carzony wrote: »

surely if you can handle a manual you can handle an auto?

Completely different driving style required to drive an auto fast

POGAN · 18-11-2014 7:17am

There manuals

Mister Jingles · 18-11-2014 6:25pm

D Trent wrote: »

I think the only reason the Depot would have gone for Auto is simply because it's a slightly higher spec than its manual counterpart. It's that bit quicker.

I mean had the tender gone to Ford or Toyota they could have got 1.9/2.0/2.2 engine.
However with i40 you can only get the 1.7 litre engine- there isn't a 2.0 on offer.
So they were forced to work with what they got

There's a a few 2.0 petrols with over 160 bhp, doubt there's even one in Ireland though.

18-11-2014 7:24pm

quick question folks...

has anyone ever seen a van (i.e. Public Order van) livered up in Traffic Battenburg?

BaronVon · 18-11-2014 7:34pm

1922 wrote: »

quick question folks...

has anyone ever seen a van (i.e. Public Order van) livered up in Traffic Battenburg?

I think Pearse St traffic have (had) a Renault Traffic van, but I don't think it has the Battenburg

18-11-2014 7:47pm

1922 wrote: »

quick question folks...

has anyone ever seen a van (i.e. Public Order van) livered up in Traffic Battenburg?

Some of the Garda owned gatso vans have it. Think the fiat in cork has it. Attached to traffic unit there.

kub · 18-11-2014 8:37pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Some of the Garda owned gatso vans have it. Think the fiat in cork has it. Attached to traffic unit there.

Do you mean the marked up traffic van they got in Anglesea St last year?

If so there is no Battenberg on it, just the normal stripes and 2 light bars on the roof.
All Gatso vans are unmarked, unless the magnetic signage is put on.

fiverfriday · 18-11-2014 8:53pm

kub wrote: »

Do you mean the marked up traffic van they got in Anglesea St last year?

If so there is no Battenberg on it, just the normal stripes and 2 light bars on the roof.
All Gatso vans are unmarked, unless the magnetic signage is put on.

Incorrect. DMR Traffic have two permanently marked up Gatso vans with batten burg.

kub · 18-11-2014 9:06pm

fiverfriday wrote: »

Incorrect. DMR Traffic have two permanently marked up Gatso vans with batten burg.

My apologies I was referring to Anglesea Street.

Terrontress · 18-11-2014 11:12pm

infacteh wrote: »

I think Pearse St traffic have (had) a Renault Traffic van, but I don't think it has the Battenburg

Renault Trafic only has one 'f'. He was talking about the 'Traffic Corps'

Capri · 19-11-2014 12:23am

D Trent wrote: »

I think the only reason the Depot would have gone for Auto is simply because it's a slightly higher spec than its manual counterpart. It's that bit quicker.

I mean had the tender gone to Ford or Toyota they could have got 1.9/2.0/2.2 engine.
However with i40 you can only get the 1.7 litre engine- there isn't a 2.0 on offer.
So they were forced to work with what they got

In Germany there's a 2.0 GDi with 177 hp, but they seem to supply UK forces with the diesel so they must be ok for the beancounters

Hyundai is proud to supply vehicles to 40 out of the 57 police forces in the UK, as well as both fire & rescue and ambulance services.

We gained acceptance onto the PITO Framework Agreement in October 2010 and have since delivered many different models to these services. As a result of another successful tender, we also work with approved converters to turn base vehicles into fully liveried, equipped and operational police vehicles.

carzony · 29-11-2014 1:02am

Silver transit looks really well. That'll be the last of that shape transit to join the fleet i'd say.. front is covered with lights... would a transit like that be used very often?

Capri · 29-11-2014 1:11am

carzony wrote: »

Silver transit looks really well. That'll be the last of that shape transit to join the fleet i'd say.. front is covered with lights... would a transit like that be used very often?

They probably got agood deal from Ford on old model Transits, maybe a few Mondeos as well seeing as they need to shift the old models as well.
http://www.ford.co.uk/FordFleet/SalesSupport/FleetPurchaseSupport/SpecialistFleet Don't see much wrong with the Ford range so I wonder how Hyundai got the gig when Ford is on our doorstep so to speak

carzony · 29-11-2014 1:17am

Capri wrote: »

They probably got agood deal from Ford on old model Transits, maybe a few Mondeos as well seeing as they need to shift the old models as well.
http://www.ford.co.uk/FordFleet/SalesSupport/FleetPurchaseSupport/SpecialistFleet Don't see much wrong with the Ford range so I wonder how Hyundai got the gig when Ford is on our doorstep so to speak

Hyundai must have worked out cheaper in the long run for them. i would have loved to see more new focus and mondeos all done up though..

EireGun · 30-11-2014 3:18am

Unmarked Garda BMW 3 Series? Nice :cool:

Capri · 30-11-2014 7:31am

Unmarked Garda BMW 3 Series?

There is one or 2 out there, darker grey or black IIRC, but this wasn't one. Just blue sidelights (legal or illegal, or just not covered under the Road Traffic Act :rolleyes: )

kub · 30-11-2014 12:01pm

I noticed on etenders during this last week that the Gardai are looking for 2 second hand family cars with less than 60k on their clocks and in show room condition.

Capri · 02-12-2014 12:29am

kub wrote: »

I noticed on etenders during this last week that the Gardai are looking for 2 second hand family cars with less than 60k on their clocks and in show room condition.

The mind boggles :rolleyes:

02-12-2014 2:45am

Capri wrote: »

The mind boggles :rolleyes:

Why? Got some before.

kub · 02-12-2014 10:42pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Why? Got some before.

Undercover cars?

D Trent · 02-12-2014 10:54pm

kub wrote: »

Undercover cars?

Nope
They're for Joan Burton
Dem lovelies over in Tallaght will never expect Pog mo Joan to turn up in an Opel Signum

03-12-2014 2:58am

kub wrote: »

Undercover cars?

Unmarked ones.

Old diesel · 04-12-2014 3:58pm

kub wrote: »

I noticed on etenders during this last week that the Gardai are looking for 2 second hand family cars with less than 60k on their clocks and in show room condition.

Why would you even go to the bother of having a tender for TWO second hand cars.

More to the point - why didn't they get THESE two cars as part of a wider tender.

I wonder what exactly do they mean by family cars????.

Id argue that a Skoda VRs 170 is a family car

Or a Superb 170 tdi Estate

But my suspicion is that for this tender - a 1.6 Avensis probably qualifies :rolleyes:

carzony · 04-12-2014 10:56pm

you can spot most of the unmarked cars by the cage in the back now

I seen a pure white one today which wasn't very nice colour..

kub · 04-12-2014 11:27pm

carzony wrote: »

you can spot most of the unmarked cars by the cage in the back now I seen a pure white one today which wasn't very nice colour..

Sccchhh, don't state the obvious about the cages. I suppose the reason is health and safety.

Capri · 05-12-2014 1:27am

kub wrote: »

Sccchhh, don't state the obvious about the cages. I suppose the reason is health and safety.

If it was South Africa they'd put prisoners in there :rolleyes:

Capri · 07-12-2014 2:45am

City of London police - wonder why Land Rover lost out to BMW for the 4wd's (same parent co. tho' ) and VW got the personnel carrier over a Transit 17 seater . ( I'd say there's some jockeying for those contracts :rolleyes: )

Capri · 07-12-2014 9:08am

Preserving old NHP cruisers

http://nhpcars.com/page3.php

07-12-2014 2:19pm

Capri wrote: »

City of London police - wonder why Land Rover lost out to BMW for the 4wd's (same parent co. tho' ) and VW got the personnel carrier over a Transit 17 seater . ( I'd say there's some jockeying for those contracts :rolleyes: )

Most forces over there seem to use the X5, probably due to performance and the fact BMW do police kit outs.

The personal carriers mix between BMW, Ford, VW and the odd ldv.

Terrontress · 08-12-2014 1:40am

City of London police is a strange one as it is massively resourced, has a total force area of one square mile and hardly anyone lives there. They've always got lovely cars, Octavia estates seem to be the standard patrol now. The chances of there being an incident which requires a riot van are very real, due to g8 protestors, but very infrequent.

There are loads of cops, very few beggars, no graffiti. Probably how a wise person would run a police force with loads of money.

CharlieCroker · 08-12-2014 2:43am

My brother works in that area, says the place shuts down from 6pm on Friday to 7am on Monday. The majority of work they do is financial crimes and terrorism/public order prevention

kub · 08-12-2014 10:34pm

What is the point of this City Of London Police service? It is surrounded by and works hand in hand with The Met.....so why don't they absorb it into the Met? Just make it a division of same?

Capri · 08-12-2014 11:11pm

kub wrote: »

What is the point of this City Of London Police service? It is surrounded by and works hand in hand with The Met.....so why don't they absorb it into the Met? Just make it a division of same?

Like a lot of things in life, I'd say it's about 'tradition' and prestige - bit like the APFS and Harbour Police here.

The City has a resident population of about 7,000 (2011) but over 300,000 people commute to and work there, mainly in the financial services sector

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_of_London_Police

1737 An Act was passed 'for better regulating the Night Watch and Bedels within the City of London and the liberties thereof'. This Act directed the payments to be made for serving and directed the number of Constables who where to be on duty each night, i.e. the City established a paid police force before any other area

1829 The Metropolitan Police Act established that Force. The Metropolitan Police was divided into seventeen divisions each with a Superintendent, four inspectors and sixteen Sergeants

1833 The Lighting and Watching Act allowed the establishment of paid police forces in England and Wales generally

1835 The Municipal Corporations Act required 178 Royal Boroughs to set up paid police forces

1836 Inspectors of Constabulary were first appointed

1839 The County Police Act allowed the establishment of police forces for the counties - eight were formed in 1839, twelve in 1840, four in 1841 and a further four by 1851

1856 The remaining counties were compelled to set up police forces by the County and Borough Police Act. Grant were made by the Exchequer to those forces certified each year as efficient. From this Act, moves were made regularly to merge smaller forces into larger ones on the basis of effectiveness and 'value for rate and taxpayers money'

1919 The Desborough Committee, while rejecting the idea of a national police force, did achieve a measure of centralisation by the creation of a police department in the Home Office

1934 Home Office Committee effectively rationalises police uniforms

1946 Police Act leads to many police forces amalgamations - 45 boroughs were abolished

1964 Police Act results in more amalgamations to result in today's 41 county or area police forces plus the Metropolitan and City of London Police

donvito99 · 09-12-2014 2:45pm

Re Italian vids

One thing that must be said having watched that is that the emergency lighting on some of those vehicles is truly pathetic, it's all about the siren and the markings and hoping for the best. Seems to work though.

14-12-2014 4:35pm

Capri, AGS seem to be getting some new mini-buses at the moment. There is a silver one in the gallery thread. Here is one in white.

https://www.esforum.org/gallery/10_11_12_14_7_36_27.jpeg

POGAN · 14-12-2014 11:35pm

foreign wrote: »

Capri, AGS seem to be getting some new mini-buses at the moment. There is a silver one in the gallery thread. Here is one in white.

https://www.esforum.org/gallery/10_11_12_14_7_36_27.jpeg

Very few being bought...next up is the fiat vans like pearse street 2011

Capri · 15-12-2014 1:22am

foreign wrote: »

Capri, AGS seem to be getting some new mini-buses at the moment. There is a silver one in the gallery thread. Here is one in white.

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But they're the old model, even the silver one at the water protest was the old model - the Army have the latest model

D Trent · 15-12-2014 2:53am

Capri wrote: »

But they're the old model, even the silver one at the water protest was the old model - the Army have the latest model

It's a Transit ffs

Capri · 15-12-2014 7:19am

D Trent wrote: »

It's a Transit ffs

'Transit, workhorse of Europe for 50 years' - the new model is US/EU like the Mondeo/Fusion so there should be a crossover of police technology ?

Terrontress · 15-12-2014 10:28am

If it were an army transit, would it not have a silver on black numberplate?

source · 15-12-2014 2:24pm

Terrontress wrote: »

If it were an army transit, would it not have a silver on black numberplate?

No they stopped doing that a few years ago.

Capri · 18-12-2014 12:04am

source wrote: »

No they stopped doing that a few years ago.

Think the Irish use stuff keep the reflective plates but the o/seas stuff gets the black/silver plates

UAE / Thai vehicles - on the BMW it looks like a giant ANPR unit on the roof bar ?
Bet when the Krabi police turn on the lights on the tuk-tuk it slows down with the drain on the alternator :P

carzony · 26-12-2014 7:48pm

more like a mondeo/vectra estate..

Avada · 26-12-2014 8:01pm

Thats a vectra estate

belacqua_ · 26-12-2014 8:30pm

Tyres threw me completely.

punisher5112 · 26-12-2014 8:49pm

You think the wheels are alloys but no.

The black wheel is the actual wheel with a plastic cover which because of the big gaps actually looks like an alloy.

Some focus have these also as does most Toyota prius.

Some other manufacturers used this idea also .
Handy if you are good at kerbing as you can just get a new cover and llooks like a new alloy...

Capri · 26-12-2014 9:10pm

punisher5112 wrote: »

You think the wheels are alloys but no.

The black wheel is the actual wheel with a plastic cover which because of the big gaps actually looks like an alloy.

Some focus have these also as does most Toyota prius.

Some other manufacturers used this idea also .
Handy if you are good at kerbing as you can just get a new cover and llooks like a new alloy...

Sprayed silver they'd pass as alloys without the expense involved :cool:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/06-07-08-MALIBU-WHEEL-16X6-1-2-STEEL-5-SPOKE-OPT-NZ6-1176802-/221610772550?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AChevrolet%7CModel%3ACobalt&hash=item3399080846&vxp=mtr#ht_2189wt_1019

Boscorelli · 29-12-2014 5:30pm

Opel insignia estate..2 litre diesel attached to Cork City traffic corp. A capable addition to the fleet for a change. Have a few photos but unable to post them.

Mister Jingles · 29-12-2014 6:17pm

Is there any intentions for the guards to go back to using saloons or are estates the way forward these days ?

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