Educogym-Any good?

I wouldn't go near it, crazy expensive for what it is. Spend your money on a good gym and get advice from a personal trainer. Most gyms give great advice free of charge too.

Hi Martin

I own two of the franchises. I originally got involved in educogym because it was the same type of training that I have been doing for the last 10 years. It really works great and I got brilliant results and totally changed my shape, my health and my energy. We have lots of Clients who get amazing results and of course have the pictures and testimonials to prove it! Typically if someone is prepared to do what we tell them and they just drop their opinions and trust us they get on great. A lot of what you read on boards.ie is unfortunately based on the opinions of others and not actual experience - but I'm sure there are people who haven't found it good - same as anything. Quite simply we educate people on nutrition, exercise and supplements. Despite what you read here it's a natural low glycemic diet that we advocate (low in processed foods and sugars). That stops the body storing fat and promotes growth hormone (the body's natural muscle building hormone). We advocate weight training because we are trying to increase the body's metabolism (90% of calories are burnt by muscle tissue). Supplements can be a great way of getting extra protein. We don't offer anything that you can't get in other health food stores or supplement stores however our supplements are free of unnecessary sugars etc as we don't want to promote insulin (fat storing hormone) and from looking at what other companies offer ours are very pure and are often pharmaceutical grade. You don't have to take supplements but if you are trying to gain muscle they are helpful (save you having to stuff yourself all day). We have an holistic approach to supplements - ie we try to get people to eat well first and get everything they need through their diet. Mainly all we do is recommend amino acids (building blocks of protein).

If you want to find out more just let me know

Thanks

J

Lol - if only it was that easy

It's bout 50 per week. You're always with a trainer and you can train as much as you like. So it's the price of 1 personal training session but also includes the gym.

Lol - that assumes the person trains for the year. How much would a gym + personal trainer (at 50 per session) 3 times per week cost for the year - 8,000? I think you're right.

myerscoj wrote: »

Lol - if only it was that easy

It is:D

whats in and out of alignment? stretching/foam rolling empsasis? Cardio? Free weights? Hell where is a few deadlifts, core work, variety in the workouts (a multistation machine is not going to cut it), I could mention a few other things but just will say etc

I was only comparing prices to balance the previous post. I didn't say that personal trainers weren't good value. I like training with another trainer. I don't find it as good training by myself.In fairness people come to us because they aren't expert trainers. Initially most people are looking to lose weight (although we do weight gain programmes - of course . It's just not as common) and the movements they do are very basicand are designed to promote growth hormone. We do both compound and isolation exercises and initially it's to target the major muscles. We do routines that balance out the body - a lot of people who train seem to over emphasize some muscle groups and forget the opposing muscles (which gives them terrible posture just look at their back and the way their arms hang at the front - I'm sure you'll agree). When we screen we look for injuries, restrictions etc. and the weights and exercises in the initial sessions tend to highlight what's in and out of alignment. We get people to perform exercises from full stretch to full contraction - I found from doing weights that I became more flexible where as I find cardio does the opposite - particularly running. Since as you've correctly pointed out we don't do cardio - that solves that one.

We do do deadlifts, we don't have free weights because the majority of people don't perform the exercises correctly and they do more damage than good when not performed correctly. We do lots of core work and as you know you're core is constantly being used when you do weights. We promote heavy heavy training which I know some of you agree with. You'd be shocked at how many exercises the machine does - it is honestly unlike anything you will have seen. I was amazed at what it can do and I am a huge fan of free weights - I absolutely love trying to do exercises perfectly but honestly I find you can get into great shape without them.

When ever I travel though I love using the free weights - it's frustrating though when someone else has those dumbbells you need! I totally agree that most multi station machines just don't cut it. Just go to virtually any hotel and you find they are missing something that leaves you frustrated. Normally when a person has achieved their initial weight loss goals we find it's necessary to address their posture, alignment etc and then stretching is very necessary particularly with areas such as the hamstrings.

As for variety - that's not true we have endless exercises! Really it's not like regular multi station machines I promise.

It is old fashioned - but very few gyms combine all the elements that it takes to get a person into great shape. People have been training like this since the 40's and 50's but it works - no need to make it complicated.

I like the foam rolling stretching by the way - but your right we don't do it. I like to get massages though!

myerscoj wrote: »

we don't have free weights because the majority of people don't perform the exercises correctly and they do more damage than good when not performed correctly.

In all fairness, at 50 Eur a week I'd think it's your job to teach people to perform them correctly.

myerscoj wrote: »

LOL I never said we don't teach people to do the exercises correctly. Luckily with a machine it's very difficult to exercise incorrectly which suits the majority. With regards to free weights some people aren't naturals and others don't have great athletic ability and others just don't have the time to spend learning the exercises perfectly. They can either struggle with the exercises or spend that time getting into great shape. From experience I think it's naive to expect everybody to train perfectly. I think with coaching and time most people will get close but certainly not everybody. At lot of people don't have the patience I've noticed.

You can't teach people to do the exercises correctly if you don't have the correct equipment.

As for people who aren't 'naturals' - it's your job to teach them, not make excuses for not doing so. It would be far more worth their while to spend a while 'struggling' with deadlifts and squats til they got them right, rather than learning to rely on machines.

As for patience, is it your clients that don't have it, or you?

Zamboni wrote: »

I have a slight phobia of Educogym in the same way I have a slight phobia of the Dianetics place on Abbey St.
I feel that if I ever go in, I won't come out the 'same' anymore.

What any potential customer really needs to know is that Educogym offer absolutely nothing that is not freely available on the stickies on this board.

Really it's just a gym but most of our clients hope that after they come out they aren't the 'same' anymore!