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Anxiety and/or depression discussion.

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    #3692
    Gremlinertia
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional West Moderators Posts: 59,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gremlinertia


    Good decision, well done.. Don't forget to write down stuff for yourself so you don't lose your way. That was invaluable to me when seeing some people for the first time..


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    #3693
    GeneralC
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    In my head, I think a change of scenery/location/culture will miraculously cure me for some reason. But like you said, it's different in reality, and I would probably want to return soon after leaving.

    Have you tried meds yourself?


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    #3694
    Hugo Stiglitz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 43,891 ✭✭✭✭Hugo Stiglitz


    GeneralC wrote: »
    In my head, I think a change of scenery/location/culture will miraculously cure me for some reason. But like you said, it's different in reality, and I would probably want to return soon after leaving.

    I think like that sometimes too. Also thinking a change of physique will somehow do away with all problems.


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    #3695
    GeneralC
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    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    I think like that sometimes too. Also thinking a change of physique will somehow do away with all problems.

    Yes, I use to think that too. If I have the ripped model physique that I would be somehow 'fine'. The funny thing is, I am very fit physically, way beyond the 'average' person, but mentally unfit. I will put countless hours in at the gym each week, but not put 10-15 mins day into my mental health. It makes no sense really.


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    #3696
    Hugo Stiglitz
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    Yes, I use to think that too. If I have the ripped model physique that I would be somehow 'fine'. The funny thing is, I am very fit physically, way beyond the 'average' person, but mentally unfit. I will put countless hours in at the gym each week, but not put 10-15 mins day into my mental health. It makes no sense really.

    Oh how I envy you! I'm a blob! :D:o


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    #3697
    GeneralC
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    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Oh how I envy you! I'm a blob! :D:o

    I do think exercise is key to improving mental health. We all know it releases the happy hormones, endorphins.

    I purchased myself a yoga mat this evening, and watch a 27 minute video on meditation, found myself to be very restless during it, but did feel some benefit to it afterwards.


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    #3698
    GeneralC
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    CZ 453 wrote: »
    Yes. For a few months. I went off them due to the groggy side effects. They were good though.

    I started training(in a gym) and I feel much better.

    As you said above-change of location will miraculously cure you? You already know the answer to that. The only place you can get better is in your head.

    If I was you,I'd tip away with exercise and good food. Take a little holiday. Keep your brain active by reading and browsing through your masters notes(but not too much as they may stress you a bit).


    I have always been apprehensive about meds. Do you feel better now that you're off them and doing a bit of training? or better on them>

    Great point, my head is the only place I can better, not sunny California ;)

    I eat very healthy and exercise everyday, and have done for years, so I have that nailed, it's the mental exercise I lack.

    I dropped out of my masters this year because of it. It has also cost me friendships, relationships, and pretty much my life. Hence why I am dedicating the next 9 months to my mental health, while trying to get an internship of some sort to keep me occupied, and hopefully, return to do my masters in Sept. 2015


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    #3699
    GeneralC
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    CZ 453 wrote: »
    I would say I feel sharper off them. They were good though. I still get bouts of tearfulness but I think i'm just putting that down to me being a soppy dude.

    They may or may not be the answer for you. You won't know until you try them. You can always come off them again. I was tipping along on a low dose.

    I didn't have my tongue hanging out anyway. And I wasn't dragging my knuckles off the floor. :pac:


    No harm in being soppy :) I actually think that's a good thing if anything.


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    #3700
    scrimshanker
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    I dropped out of my masters this year because of it. It has also cost me friendships, relationships, and pretty much my life. Hence why I am dedicating the next 9 months to my mental health, while trying to get an internship of some sort to keep me occupied, and hopefully, return to do my masters in Sept. 2015

    You can always do your J1 after the masters if you're feeling up to it :)


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    #3701
    GeneralC
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    scrimshanker wrote: »
    You can always do your J1 after the masters if you're feeling up to it :)

    I'll be an aul fella by the time I finish it ha

    On a side note, great to see such a fantastic thread :)

    now it's time for another yoga/meditation session before bed


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    #3702
    GeneralC
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    Apart from the racing thoughts, tremors, heart racing/palpiatations etc. Does anyone suffer from a constant need for food? really bad reflux and almost brain fog like experience?


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    #3703
    heyday30
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    Apart from the racing thoughts, tremors, heart racing/palpiatations etc. Does anyone suffer from a constant need for food? really bad reflux and almost brain fog like experience?

    Yep. Food is the friend and enemy. I get quite bad reflux as I have a hernia but the sh1t I eat sometimes really doesn't help.

    Although food won't be an issue this week. I will be living on cereal I think.
    I'm quite angry at my money being stopped with out even so much as a phone call to say why!!

    It makes me feel completely worthless. Having to go practically beg for money to welfare officer. It's ruthless and completely degrading. I am up in a heap to be honest. I'm dreading it. Welfare officer is really not a nice person. I'm making myself sick with worry


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    #3704
    alaskayoung
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    Just out of curiosity, are many of you with the Adult Mental Health Services/CAMHS or just go through your GP?


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    #3705
    GeneralC
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    heyday30 wrote: »
    Yep. Food is the friend and enemy. I get quite bad reflux as I have a hernia but the sh1t I eat sometimes really doesn't help.

    Although food won't be an issue this week. I will be living on cereal I think.
    I'm quite angry at my money being stopped with out even so much as a phone call to say why!!

    It makes me feel completely worthless. Having to go practically beg for money to welfare officer. It's ruthless and completely degrading. I am up in a heap to be honest. I'm dreading it. Welfare officer is really not a nice person. I'm making myself sick with worry


    Could you expand on the "food is the friend and enemy" quote please?

    Why is your money being stopped?! That sounds awful, sorry to hear that! How do they expect you to live and support yourself? Madness!!!


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    #3706
    greenfrogs
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    heyday30 wrote: »
    It makes me feel completely worthless. Having to go practically beg for money to welfare officer. It's ruthless and completely degrading. I am up in a heap to be honest. I'm dreading it. Welfare officer is really not a nice person. I'm making myself sick with worry

    Hi I get what you mean. My welfare officer is not the nicest either. The first time I was there I got so nervous and he treated me as I was stupid. It is easy to feel that you are practically begging for money. I like to think that this money is helping me get back my mental health. This will enable me to work and to pay back the money in the future. Everybody needs a helping hand at times. This is our time. Do you have medical certs proving you can't work?

    They gave me less than half of my allowance a few weeks ago. It was down to confusion as my illness benefit kicked in but they didn't pay me the correct amount. It is definitely annoying that they are only open at certain hours. They really should have an out of hours number.


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    #3707
    masonchat
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    Hello guys n gals , have any of you tried hypnosis for anxiety/ panic attacks ? and if so how did you find it ? did it work .

    I am considering this myself any info welcome


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    #3708
    GeneralC
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    I haven't tried it myself, but have heard from people who have tried it, and it didn't work for them. However, that's not to say it won't work for you!

    Have you talked to your GP about it? What advice has he given you? Have you tried CBT?


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    #3709
    Hugo Stiglitz
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    Any here found themselves really isolated now socially because of their condition?


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    #3710
    GeneralC
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    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Any here found themselves really isolated now socially because of their condition?

    Of course, all the time. I have lost friendships and relationships over this. I find it incredibly difficult to socialise, period. But, it doesn't have to be like this, we ultimately decide for ourselves that it 'has' to be like this, instead of pushing ourselves outside our comfort zone.


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    #3711
    Hugo Stiglitz
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    Of course, all the time. I have lost friendships and relationships over this. I find it incredibly difficult to socialise, period. But, it doesn't have to be like this, we ultimately decide for ourselves that it 'has' to be like this, instead of pushing ourselves outside our comfort zone.

    When talking about it with some net friends, they suggest things like going out to a pub or gig alone and just chat with people. To me, that sounds like the most frightening thing to do!


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    #3712
    GeneralC
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    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    When talking about it with some net friends, they suggest things like going out to a pub or gig alone and just chat with people. To me, that sounds like the most frightening thing to do!

    I can understand that. Could you suggest a coffee/lunch with one/two of them at first? just to gradually ease yourself back out there


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    #3713
    Hugo Stiglitz
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    I can understand that. Could you suggest a coffee/lunch with one/two of them at first? just to gradually ease yourself back out there

    No, I mean that they suggested I alone venture out and try talk to people in pubs or gigs! :eek:


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    #3714
    GeneralC
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    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    No, I mean that they suggested I alone venture out and try talk to people in pubs or gigs! :eek:

    Well, that would be difficult for anyone, never mind someone with anxiety.

    You don't even have to go that extreme. Have you ever considered going on the site 'meet-up' and attending one of their nights out? or maybe even a toastmasters session? That would be a good starting point.


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    #3715
    Hugo Stiglitz
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    Well, that would be difficult for anyone, never mind someone with anxiety.

    You don't even have to go that extreme. Have you ever considered going on the site 'meet-up' and attending one of their nights out? or maybe even a toastmasters session? That would be a good starting point.

    I'm very awkward. If I had to talk to people that don't have similar interests the awkwardness would rise exponentially LOL :o

    MeetUp.com isn't great for down here. Toastmasters wouldn't be my thing either I'd bet.

    See how awkward I am?! :D:o


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    #3716
    GeneralC
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    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    I'm very awkward. If I had to talk to people that don't have similar interests the awkwardness would rise exponentially LOL :o

    MeetUp.com isn't great for down here. Toastmasters wouldn't be my thing either I'd bet.

    See how awkward I am?! :D:o

    Are you interested in any sports/hobbies? perhaps that could be a route to go down? There is many clubs out there nowadays to cater for all interests.


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    #3717
    Hugo Stiglitz
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    Are you interested in any sports/hobbies? perhaps that could be a route to go down? There is many clubs out there nowadays to cater for all interests.

    I don't really have many interests either. The thought of joining a club for something fills me with dread too to be brutally honest :o

    Edit: I was more so looking to hear of yer own experiences with my original query rather than the suggestions. I hope that's not rude to say! Suggestions were greatly appreciated of course. :)


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    #3718
    GeneralC
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    Well, I don't have many friends, and live a pretty much isolated life now that I dropped out of college. I attend the gym daily, which is my only source of really getting out of place I am living. So I just find myself spending 2/3 hours in the gym, going more for the social aspect (and health) benefits.

    At least when I was in college, I was forced to interact with people, which is good. I would love to have a proper circle of friends, without sounding cheesy, who do normal guy stuff, like watch sports, hang out, go for food, beer (even though I don't drink) etc.. I think if I had a close bunch of friends, it would do me the world of good. I do have friends, but we're not close, rarely meet up etc.


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    #3719
    heyday30
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    Could you expand on the "food is the friend and enemy" quote please?

    Why is your money being stopped?! That sounds awful, sorry to hear that! How do they expect you to live and support yourself? Madness!!!

    It's just that food is a necessity for life. We have to eat. But for some of us comfort eaters it's a real problem. You feel like crap... you reach for chocolate, crisps cake (or more like altogether) you feel content n satisfied for moments then you just feel disgusting. It's your friend whilst it's been eaten but your enemy once the gorging is over.

    I don't know why my money was stopped. I will have to wait til Wednesday. Mean while I am a week behind on all the bills. I hope it's just a mistake


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    #3720
    heyday30
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    Hugo Stiglitz wrote: »
    Any here found themselves really isolated now socially because of their condition?

    I do Hugo and more to the point I feel like isolating myself more at times. I absolutely freak out at the thoughts of pubs, clubs even family events.

    I would find it quite difficult to walk into a pub or somewhere else on my own as suggested to you. I don't know how I'd react if strangers started talking to me. I'm more of a listener.


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    #3721
    Hugo Stiglitz
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    GeneralC wrote: »
    I think if I had a close bunch of friends, it would do me the world of good. I do have friends, but we're not close, rarely meet up etc.

    I'm very much in the same boat.


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