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Child cut knee, gets €20,000

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,104 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Robbo wrote: »
    Actually, the sum is very much within the range given in the PIAB Book of Quantum. PIAB as a creation for the insurance industry being known for their interest in keeping awards low.

    The Book of Quantum is very much adhered to by judges these days. If you have issue with it's use, the windmills you might want to tilt at are the TDs who created PIAB and the insurance interests it represents.

    Actually was this brought before the PIAB ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,996 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Boombastic wrote: »
    ...

    Link

    A TWO-YEAR-OLD girl who fell on glass in a park and cut her knee has received a €20,000 settlement from a local authority.

    Is that what is known as a Bottle Bank then?


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    How much our society (or at least here) has turned in a jealous culture....

    What I think is annoying is that well over 90% of the posts on this thread are moaning about the mother suing and how much she got. GET A GRIP!!!

    Why the hell are these scumbags sitting in childrens playgrounds drinking and breaking bottles!!!! Councils have little enough money as is and they are providing these much needed facilities for the local community.

    As a parent I'd be pragmatic... my daughter broke her arm recently at a play center that was someone elses fault but it was an accident and I left it as such. They were decent about it and we didn't end up out of pocket. Could have sued and got 20K easily but it'd simply be bad karma. Would I have sued in her situation, don't know..... €20,000 for her daughter when she turns 18 is a good start regarding college fees and tuition and every parents wish is to give their child the best possible start in life...... would hold no malice towards parent or child. Scum drinking should have been sued!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭latenia


    kennM wrote: »
    How much our society (or at least here) has turned in a jealous culture....

    This isn't some magic money tree-it's my fckng cash they're pissing away on these gougers. Please never complain again when sh1t around the city doesn't get repaired-it's the fault of DCC casually handing out 20k like it doesn't mean anything and people like you who say "fair play to them for getting something."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    One of my parasites kids has a ten stitcher scar on his head, by that reckoning I'm in the money, the only problem is that his brother gave it to him in a wrestling move.

    I'm thinking of taking John Cena to court.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,779 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    mattjack wrote: »
    One of my parasites kids has a ten stitcher scar on his head, by that reckoning I'm in the money, the only problem is that his brother gave it to him in a wrestling move.

    I'm thinking of taking John Cena to court.

    That's an interesting comment, I was just about to post this.

    In life, should you want to, one could blame someone else for almost every single mistake, accident, issue that you encounter. That goes for almost everything that could happen to you.

    Now, this particular case.
    There are so many issues spinning out of it but ultimately it shows a few things about sectors of Irish society and how we view things.

    1. That there are people out there who utilise public areas and treat them with little respect (the people that left the broken bottle there) (similiar threads about people leaving their litter behind them are all over this site as well as threads with examples of people not treating their environment with the respect it deserves)
    2. That some people don't realise that without wrapping your child up in cotton wool, the world contains a number of inherent risks and your child will suffer relatively minor injuries.
    3. That every action has a reaction. There is no way it is feasible for councils to have staff monitoring and cleaning up public areas on a 24/7 basis. Actions such as this will lead to these areas getting reduced, both directly and indirectly.
    4. The scumbags who litter and treat nothing with respect get away scott free all the time, this needs to change and the attitudes towards your neighbour and society in general need to change in some sectors of society.
    5. We have a legal system that all too easily allows litigation of this nature to occur and settlements to happen ONLY because the cost of going to court outweighs the settlement.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    kippy wrote: »
    That's an interesting comment, I was just about to post this.

    In life, should you want to, one could blame someone else for almost every single mistake, accident, issue that you encounter. That goes for almost everything that could happen to you.

    Now, this particular case.
    There are so many issues spinning out of it but ultimately it shows a few things about sectors of Irish society and how we view things.

    1. That there are people out there who utilise public areas and treat them with little respect (the people that left the broken bottle there) (similiar threads about people leaving their litter behind them are all over this site as well as threads with examples of people not treating their environment with the respect it deserves)
    2. That some people don't realise that without wrapping your child up in cotton wool, the world contains a number of inherent risks and your child will suffer relatively minor injuries.
    3. That every action has a reaction. There is no way it is feasible for councils to have staff monitoring and cleaning up public areas on a 24/7 basis. Actions such as this will lead to these areas getting reduced, both directly and indirectly.
    4. The scumbags who litter and treat nothing with respect get away scott free all the time, this needs to change and the attitudes towards your neighbour and society in general need to change in some sectors of society.
    5. We have a legal system that all too easily allows litigation of this nature to occur and settlements to happen ONLY because the cost of going to court outweighs the settlement.

    Erm , Your Honour , my post may not be true.I've used some poetic licence to add too its dramatic effect.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,779 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    mattjack wrote: »
    Erm , Your Honour , my post may not be true.I've used some poetic licence to add too its dramatic effect.

    I know,
    Sorry, it wasnt a dig at you, just an observation about blaming others.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,876 ✭✭✭Scortho


    Its becomming ridiculous at this stage.
    Child sues mother through her grandfather because the mother was uninsured.
    Someone crashes in go-karting and gets a couple of grand. FFS it go-karting of course its a bit risky.
    DCC light department member trips on esb cable. Gets a couple of hundred grand because he can no longer play the bag pipes.
    Today a woman sues her boyfriends parents for 200000 for the loss of an eye because he tripped and broke a pane of glass in the door and some hit her face!

    Wheres this going to end.

    In 5th year I put a pipette through my finger in chemistry class. Have a lovely inch long scar covering my finger which will always be there. I wonder how much I could have got out of my old school?:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,304 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/girl-settles-claim-for-20000-after-cutting-her-knee-on-discarded-beer-bottle-3292352.html
    Judge Matthew Deery heard that little Croi was running towards the childrens’ slide on February 7 last year when she fell.
    I'd say removal of the playground will be the cheapest option to ensure that this doesn't happen again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,779 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    the_syco wrote: »
    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/girl-settles-claim-for-20000-after-cutting-her-knee-on-discarded-beer-bottle-3292352.html

    I'd say removal of the playground will be the cheapest option to ensure that this doesn't happen again.

    The sad thing is, we've seen a shed load of playgrounds pop up over the past decade (one of the few long lasting benefits of the Celtic Tiger)
    This kind of thing is definitely going to effect them and those people that use them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    What is it with Irish/British/US compo claims?

    If that was Eastern Europe, Ireland a few short years ago, you'd just be told to fcuk off and be more careful next time.

    Wish it was still like this and none of this compensation bullsh1t.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    latenia wrote: »
    This isn't some magic money tree-it's my fckng cash they're pissing away on these gougers. Please never complain again when sh1t around the city doesn't get repaired-it's the fault of DCC casually handing out 20k like it doesn't mean anything and people like you who say "fair play to them for getting something."

    Hey Letenia,

    I'm not saying "fair play to them for getting something".... re-read my post. I'm saying that the problem here is the scum sitting drinking in childrens playgrounds and smashing bottles! I'd much prefer to see the scumbags paying out rather than the council. The council being responsible for these situations is wrong however to be pragmatic about it.... a child was injured and ended up in surgery.

    The system is broken in the fact the council are liable however don't hate the person who ended up worried sick with their child in hospital under general anesthetic, hate the bloody idiots that were the root cause of the problem. Scumbags drinking illegally and breaking glass in a childrens playground!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,779 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    kennM wrote: »
    Hey Letenia,

    I'm not saying "fair play to them for getting something".... re-read my post. I'm saying that the problem here is the scum sitting drinking in childrens playgrounds and smashing bottles! I'd much prefer to see the scumbags paying out rather than the council. The council being responsible for these situations is wrong however to be pragmatic about it.... a child was injured and ended up in surgery.

    The system is broken in the fact the council are liable however don't hate the person who ended up worried sick with their child in hospital under general anesthetic, hate the bloody idiots that were the root cause of the problem. Scumbags drinking illegally and breaking glass in a childrens playground!

    I'd agree to a point, however somewhere along the line the parent of this child has to be aware of the fact that their child is exposed to risk at all hours of the day and that this risk needs to be mitigated against. Indeed as I have pointed out, it is often very easy to blame someone else as in this case it's every single citizen that is paying for her daughters cut with a strong change that amenities such as this will close.

    The fact is, this parent found it totally acceptable to sue the state or agents of it, for a sizable amount of money. I would hope that in future this child doesn't end up suing her parents for all the cuts/bruises/etc she gets as a child when in their care.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,960 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    kennM wrote: »
    How much our society (or at least here) has turned in a jealous culture....

    €20,000 for her daughter when she turns 18 is a good start regarding college fees and tuition and every parents wish is to give their child the best possible start in life...... would hold no malice towards parent or child.


    Getting injured isn't winning the lottery. We don't have a law allowing for punitive damages in this country (despite what some of the awards/settlements seem to show).

    If someone is injured and it is someone else's fault then they are supposed to be compensated for any losses, not given some cash so that they have "the best possible start in life". You want to give your child a good start then f**king well go out and earn the means to do so.

    Anyone who tried to milk one penny more than their actual losses should be up in court for fraud.

    It's not jealousy to criticise people who abuse the system for their own gain.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    kippy wrote: »
    I'd agree to a point, however somewhere along the line the parent of this child has to be aware of the fact that their child is exposed to risk at all hours of the day and that this risk needs to be mitigated against. Indeed as I have pointed out, it is often very easy to blame someone else as in this case it's every single citizen that is paying for her daughters cut with a strong change that amenities such as this will close.

    The fact is, this parent found it totally acceptable to sue the state or agents of it, for a sizable amount of money. I would hope that in future this child doesn't end up suing her parents for all the cuts/bruises/etc she gets as a child when in their care.

    I agree with you.... I'm a parent of a couple of young children and am also pragmatic about how careful you have to be EVERYWHERE, be it car parks, shops, parks, play grounds etc. etc. etc. I've seen some parents who just let their kids run wild, and others (like myself) who stress themselves grey keeping an eye on them and being with them.

    The root cause of this problem is scum drinking in playgrounds! This is where our anger should be focused.

    I feel its wrong that the council are responsible for this issue but (to flip the argument, and I recognise this won't be popular) the council have a responsibility to keep the playground in good condition. How long was the grass at the time? If the grass was particularly long and unkept would a parent have seen the glass and avoided? Should there be grass in a childrens playground? should they use artificial grass? When was the playground last cleaned/maintained? Could that glass have been there for weeks/months? There are a lot things that could blur the picture regarding why liability landed on the council. A parent has a duty of care as does the council. We simply don't know enough details to determine if the mother could/should have done more or whether the council didn't do enough.

    The important thing is that the child made a good recovery. Sure they have a scar, but the child could have ended up with infection or disease.

    I repeat.... the problem is the scum drinking in closed childrens playgrounds breaking bottles. They should be removed and prosecuted and we never have cases like this. Problem solved.


  • Registered Users Posts: 603 ✭✭✭kennM


    blackwhite wrote: »
    Getting injured isn't winning the lottery. We don't have a law allowing for punitive damages in this country (despite what some of the awards/settlements seem to show).

    If someone is injured and it is someone else's fault then they are supposed to be compensated for any losses, not given some cash so that they have "the best possible start in life". You want to give your child a good start then f**king well go out and earn the means to do so.

    Anyone who tried to milk one penny more than their actual losses should be up in court for fraud.

    It's not jealousy to criticise people who abuse the system for their own gain.

    Hey blackwhite... no its not winning the lottery, check out the compensation payments in the states for that. You are tying two unrelated points together for your convenience. Compensation is given for pain and suffering, thats the system.... as I've already stated, I was in a situation where I could have easily sued for injury to my child but didn't.... in some cases and accident is an accident and thats it.

    "Anyone who tried to milk one penny more than their actual losses should be up in court for fraud." - So you disagree with compensation for pain and suffering & any long term effects in principal? Not specific to this case.... in general? Its quite a wide sweeping statement.

    In my view people should criticise and show their anger to the actual people who lead to this situation happening in the first place. The scum drinking in childrens playgrounds and breaking bottles. They were the ones in the wrong and I feel the ones who should be sued.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,779 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    kennM wrote: »

    I repeat.... the problem is the scum drinking in closed childrens playgrounds breaking bottles. They should be removed and prosecuted and we never have cases like this. Problem solved.

    Yeah, that is the root cause of this particular issue - however one also has to look at the figure involved and the impact this person getting it will have on other resources.


    I see it in Galway all the time. There is a great resource in Doughiska Park/Merlin Woods but unfortunately there is an element of misuse of these by certain groups of people, littering, leaving broken bottles, lighting fires even. There is a good local group that does tidy ups every now and again but yeah, if the people who abused these areas were caught and prosecuted there might be some form of a disincentive to do it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    I approve of it, NOT because it's a justified payout (it's not, it's f*cking ridiculous) but because it might force the councils to wake up and start actually maintaining the public spaces they're supposed to be maintaining.
    Today it's a shard of glass, tomorrow it could be a used heroin needle. The state of some supposed playgrounds is a disgrace.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    kennM wrote: »


    In my view people should criticise and show their anger to the actual people who lead to this situation happening in the first place. The scum drinking in childrens playgrounds and breaking bottles. They were the ones in the wrong and I feel the ones who should be sued.

    So say I'm walking down the street, I slip on a banana skin you or your child dropped. I get a cut on my hand, had to get a tetanus, missed 2 days of work and 'emotional damage' of course. I want to sue, who's fault is it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Rasheed wrote: »

    So say I'm walking down the street, I slip on a banana skin you or your child dropped. I get a cut on my hand, had to get a tetanus, missed 2 days of work and 'emotional damage' of course. I want to sue, who's fault is it?
    The councils of course.. Why didn't the mother sue the people who broke the bottles in the playground?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 98 ✭✭Rynox45


    This is a stupid case and imo shouldn't have been worth anything.

    Playgrounds have already been shut in my area as they're not insured and this type of thing is exactly why.

    I had a similar incident in my second year of secondary school. Slid on some grass in the school yard, there was something sharp, got a 2 inch scar on my leg. Had it bandaged up and nothing more was said of it.
    Maybe I'm just irritable but it seems that with parents being over protective or prudish with young children, then being negligent with teenagers, there's something wrong with modern parenting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,253 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    If the mother knew there were gangs hanging out drinking in this park, why wouldnt she check the area her child was playing in?
    My mother wouldnt let me play in an area with broken glass, especially at that age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Rasheed wrote: »
    So in your opinion €20,000 of tax payers money was fair for this child?

    If this is the only scar she gets on her knees as she gets older, she's damn lucky.

    So what's the cut off when it comes to injuries? I've no idea how much it would cost to fully repair her injury so i can't say whether 20,000 is fair or not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed



    So what's the cut off when it comes to injuries? I've no idea how much it would cost to fully repair her injury so i can't say whether 20,000 is fair or not
    You don't have to be a plastic surgeon to know that €20,000 is astronomical for an inch scar.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Boombastic wrote: »
    The councils of course.. Why didn't the mother sue the people who broke the bottles in the playground?

    So I sue the council for somebody's littering and my own clumsiness?


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    This is so so wrong.

    She got the cut stitched, it will heal fine. What more does she want?

    In other European countries this would never get near court.

    Anyway, theres no luck in money got like this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭pawrick


    Out of touch people make out of touch decisions with no consequences, sounds very familiar.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Rasheed wrote: »
    So I sue the council for somebody's littering and my own clumsiness?

    Of course, they're the ones with the money and sure they should have someone to pick up the trash as soon as it's dropped or at least fence off the area with warning signs to protect you from yourself;):D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Boombastic wrote: »

    Of course, they're the ones with the money and sure they should have someone to pick up the trash as soon as it's dropped or at least fence off the area with warning signs to protect you from yourself;):D
    Of course!! Sure before my palms hit the pavement all I can hear is KA-CHING!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,263 ✭✭✭✭Borderfox


    Allyall wrote: »
    It'd be interesting to see how much of it goes on the Child, and how much of that is for Plastic Surgery.

    Dutch Gold party time in the park :-)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 811 ✭✭✭cassid


    my youngest has a two/three inch scar across his shoulder, caused by the doctor who had to delivered him in a hurry. Should have really sued her for the damage she did rather than send her a bunch of flowers for saving his life!!! Accidents happen, as long as your little one is ok afterwards, thats the main thing.

    Our local playground often has glass in it, you make the choice to leave the plaground or heavily supervise your children, it's not the corpo's fault some idiots broke glass in it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭Scruffles


    as someone who has a deep hypertrophic scar as long as the arm and both hypertrophic and normal scars all over the place,am not in the slightest bothered of them; an inch scar is nothing,she will not get bullied for that;it will make people interested in her.

    there are so many times people have tried to sue on behalf, due to major abuse,theft, and negligence in residential care as well as the past in school but have refused to be part of it, am fed up of people assuming money solves problems,it doesnt.

    the most they shoud have done in this case was pay her medical fee,it will probably be something to show off for the kid when she is older,kids love scars as it makes them look 'hard',even girls do it.
    this mother needs to teach her kid responsibility by showing that they need to learn from problems; not profit.
    itll be awful for future kids if there are no playgrounds because of actual and risk of sueing.


  • Site Banned Posts: 385 ✭✭pontia


    biggest scar she will have is that stupid name her mother gave her


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Rasheed wrote: »
    You don't have to be a plastic surgeon to know that €20,000 is astronomical for an inch scar.

    Tell me how much it would cost then


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Ireland
    Akina laser and beauty clinic, dub
    Scar Removal
    From
    €80
    €20,000 would get 250 sessions

    the Laser and skin clinic Dublin
    Scar Removal
    From
    €200

    €20,000 would get 100 sessions



    Ok it 'might' take a few sessions or whatever the call it, but there would want to be a load of them to spend 20,000


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,987 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I know some will argue that there's always blame on someone's part in cases like this.

    But I would claim that although this may be true, it might be hard to prove.

    Example: Technically the people to blame in this case are not the local council, but the drinkers who smashed bottles. OK the council should ensure that the park is maintained, but you have to be realistic and say that councils can't employ people to stand around in local amenities and ensure they are clean, safe and suitable for use, 24/7/365. Even if they got an inspection twice a day, then a bottle could be broken after they finish the 2nd inspection, and so they cannot possibly be blamed,but instead the bottle breaker should be blamed.

    Now what if you can't find those responsible for breaking the bottles? Well, perhaps in this case you don't get any money? Going back and blaming the council on a technicality is a bit harsh imho. If we continue to take this to the nth degree then where does it stop?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Since the scar is most likely an uncomplicated scar, a minimum of non-invasive procedures such as laser should suffice and Boombastic has kindly supplied the figures.

    It is probably a shallow laceration as there was no mention of a neurologist needed so no nerve involvement. Also there was no deep tissue damage as that would most likely require rehabilitative physio of some kind.

    Therefore, assuming the child had no pre-existing health problems that would affect wound healing, the scar will most likely need laser or perhaps dermo-abrasion to fade this scar.


  • Site Banned Posts: 385 ✭✭pontia


    park it happened in is rough enough,their from the area,the mother would have known it was possible to find glass. shes as much to blame for not checking area was safe


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,201 ✭✭✭languagenerd


    I genuinely don't understand why people (incl some posters in this thread) think that being injured automatically equals deserving money. I'm not having a go at people, by the way, I'm just curious as to why people think that.

    Is the whole point of compensation not just to pay for an expenses you should never have had to pay because they arose from an accident that you didn't cause? For example, if a rail in a shop fell on you and you had to go to hospital, the compensation would be to pay your medical bills and/or cover any lost earnings because you couldn't work with a broken leg or something. Or if someone became wheelchair-bound because of an accident or a medical error, they would get compensated so they could pay for any medical bills (incl estimated future ones) as well as the renovation of their home to allow for the wheelchair and potentially lost earnings if they couldn't work anymore.

    That's what I understood compensation to be, anyway. Reimbursement for expenses that you have to pay because of an accident that someone else caused (either directly or by negligeance). But somewhere along the way that seems to have morphed into "She got injured, so she deserves a few grand". For what?! That's just putting a monetary value on pain and suffering too, which I don't think is a good idea.

    Yes, it's terrible that someone had an accident (please don't think I don't feel for people who get bad injuries or that nothing has ever happened to me or my loved ones). But apart from covering costs, why do we assume that it's up to the courts and the councils to change their luck in life? Some people said "It's great for the girl, with €20000 when she turns 18, she'll be set up for college" - but why on earth do we think she deserves a free college education simply because she was (not seriously) injured when she was 2? Many people have bad luck or horrible experiences early in life, but they can't all get a nice big sum of money to make up for it.

    And the worst bit about this particular case is that the council now have €20000 less to spend on amenities like this and the cleaning that was needed to prevent this sort of accident. If this sets a precedent (and there were three compensation stories in today's paper alone), we're going to see playgrounds and parks and other public facilities closed down, because it will become too much of a financial risk to keep them open - what if more people sued for similar things?

    (Sorry about the Wall of Text. TL;DR: it's not logical to expect a big sum of money just because you got injured, unless it's to cover medical bills)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,496 ✭✭✭Boombastic


    Rasheed wrote: »
    Since the scar is most likely an uncomplicated scar, a minimum of non-invasive procedures such as laser should suffice and Boombastic has kindly supplied the figures.

    It is probably a shallow laceration as there was no mention of a neurologist needed so no nerve involvement. Also there was no deep tissue damage as that would most likely require rehabilitative physio of some kind.

    Therefore, assuming the child had no pre-existing health problems that would affect wound healing, the scar will most likely need laser or perhaps dermo-abrasion to fade this scar.

    Or more than likely it will just fade naturally over time


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 931 ✭✭✭periodictable


    Why is it that this type of nonsense happens in Ireland? I mean, write a law which says you use the park at your own risk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Or more than likely it will just fade naturally over time

    Exactly.

    If this inch scar is going to be the only thing that this girl will be 'conscious' about when she's older, she'll have a rather uncomplicated life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Icepick


    This is why we can't have nice things!


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    NIMAN wrote: »
    I know some will argue that there's always blame on someone's part in cases like this.

    Yes, on the part of the parent who should have been watching out for the two year old.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Boombastic wrote: »

    A toddler who injured his hand on an airport baggage conveyor belt had a settlement of €15,000 approved. He had climbed on the baggage belt and suffered the injury when his arm became trapped.

    In other countries, the parent or whoever was suppposed to be watching the two year old would be held responsible.

    Is this why Irish and British kids are so indisciplined and unruly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,158 ✭✭✭Tayla


    If someone crashed into your car would you want the car to be replaced with pretty much the same car as before the crash?

    If someone damaged by body i'd want it back to as near perfect as it was before.

    I was in a crash and got a few small scars, I wasn't interested in compensation, I was just grateful my injuries were only superficial and to me it would be like tempting fate to go after money for injuries which didn't really affect me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    Boombastic wrote: »
    Ok, the glass shouldn't have been there but it was, the mother should have been more vigilant to the surroundings but ffs €20,000 for cutting your knee:rolleyes:


    If I have a pound for every scar I got as a child, I'd be rich, never mind €20,000. My left knee is probably worth close to a quarter of a million, but back in my day that's what happened and you just got on with it.

    Ireland has become a sue culture - How many playgrounds would that €20,00 have cleaned and maintained?

    Link

    A TWO-YEAR-OLD girl who fell on glass in a park and cut her knee has received a €20,000 settlement from a local authority.
    Totally agree,compo culture gone crazy.Sad that the Local Authority's legal eagles agreed to settle for this amount.Suppose they will get their cut out of our near bankrupt Local Authorities.Too easy a cop out for the judge to approve this settlement.No wonder insurance premia of all sorts are so high,could well be the death knell for public parks/playgrounds.:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Rasheed


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Totally agree,compo culture gone crazy.Sad that the Local Authority's legal eagles agreed to settle for this amount.Suppose they will get their cut out of our near bankrupt Local Authorities.Too easy a cop out for the judge to approve this settlement.No wonder insurance premia of all sorts are so high,could well be the death knell for public parks/playgrounds.:mad:
    See this is it. €20,000 could do so much around that locality. That would pay for a part time council worker for the upkeep of said play ground.

    I'd actually love to sit down with that mother and see how she can justify going after the council in the first place and then take €20,000 for future 'plastic surgery' on an inch long scar for her unfortunately named child.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭Fighting Irish


    Tayla wrote: »
    I was in a crash and got a few small scars, I wasn't interested in compensation, I was just grateful my injuries were only superficial


    That's you though
    Tayla wrote: »
    and to me it would be like tempting fate to go after money for injuries which didn't really affect me.

    :rolleyes:


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